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is it possible to get sense ontop of the honeycomb for our xooms? i loooove the the vanilla honeycomb but was wondering if it was possible.
also wondering if the scribe pen that the htc flyer uses is at all compatible with the xoom.
The htc flyer runs gingerbread with sense, so there isn't sense for honeycomb released yet.
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HTC Sense is grounded into custom frame work that HTC makes. So you would have to do a lot of work just to get it working in a beta stage. Plus they don't have Sense on any Android 3.x device yet.
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HTC Sense is grounded into custom frame work that HTC makes. So you would have to do a lot of work just to get it working in a beta stage. Plus they don't have Sense on any Android 3.x device yet.
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but seeing as how all android devices are gonna be under ice creamsandwich soon, and htc is more than likely going to have sense on it, would it then be possible to get sense on a xoom?
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but seeing as how all android devices are gonna be under ice creamsandwich soon, and htc is more than likely going to have sense on it, would it then be possible to get sense on a xoom?
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Yeah it's possible but its going to take A LOT of work.
FYI the HTC Puccini is going to be running Android 3.x and will have HTC's Sense.
I love Sense UI, don't get me wrong, but the Honeycomb UI is just so smooth and fluid on my Xoom. I don't think that I'd want Sense, or any other UI for that fact.
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I love Sense UI, don't get me wrong, but the Honeycomb UI is just so smooth and fluid on my Xoom. I don't think that I'd want Sense, or any other UI for that fact.
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Sense would also slow it down (if thats what you mean).
Hey i have a question.. is the new sense 3.5 coming too for the HTC Sensation?
As it's aimed at lesser powered devices I'd say no but you never know
Surely it must work, I wish I knew how to resize the files from the new DHD rom and try to port it over.
Yeah, just seen the DHD Bliss-based ROM. Ideally we'd need to wait for another qHD device to be released to get it. Or that new 4.5"-screened HTC Android phone announced recently (like the Titan)
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Yeah, just seen the DHD Bliss-based ROM. Ideally we'd need to wait for another qHD device to be released to get it. Or that new 4.5"-screened HTC Android phone announced recently (like the Titan)
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i thought titan was gonna have wp7?
maybe the revamped sensation will have it, but it wont really matter to me because i like senseless better
It is, but I'm sure I've heard there's gonna be another Android handset the same size. Could be wrong, mind
EDIT: The Holiday is 4.5" but leaks so far show Sense 3.0
The only thing I'm interested from in Sense 3.5 is the new Notes widget. That looks slick.
of course it will come out
Yeah, I'm sure it will come out, we have an excelent development team here
Most likely
What files would er need to port and how do you resize them to fit sensation ? I know that the HTC apks are needed but what other files are needed......libs etc?
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As it's aimed at lesser powered devices I'd say no but you never know
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There is a light version for underpowered devices, there's also a full version for high end devices, the htc rhyme comes with the simplified version, while the runnymeyde(or whatever its called) comes with the full sense
This is the runnymede rom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZC2NQm0HoI
Today....maybe?!
EDIT: Yeah...ist out now. First ROM with 3.5 Leak available! Nice!
I hope it will beacuse it'll be nice to be able to eliminate the seventh home page on my Sensation Z710e.
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Today....maybe?!
EDIT: Yeah...ist out now. First ROM with 3.5 Leak available! Nice!
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We've had it for the last 2 weeks or so! There's a load of ROMs in Dev with Sense 3.5
EDIT: Old post, my bad!
Dec 20 2011 02:00 PM | Paul in - Android News
Have you been wondering what HTC plan to do with Ice Cream Sandwich on their devices?
Well, wonder no more as one of our internal sources at HTC has managed to lay his hands on their very first internally distributed test build of Google's latest and greatest. Built on Android 4.0.1 (the build is a month old, and it will become 4.0.3 by the time it hits public release), the first test releases are intended for the HTC Sensation / Sensation XE and sport the 3.0x version tag. The usual HTC customisations are present including HTC Sense 3.5, so don't expect any massive visual changes for Ice Cream Sandwich. As you would expect, ICS has been slightly sliced and dice to give the HTC experience - Facelock is present but the new keyboard is replaced by an updated HTC IME etc.
We hope to have some ICS on Sensation screenshots very soon... watch this space!
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download htc ICS sense rom
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Why sense 3.5 that it sucks!?!?!?!
We need leak .-)
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How different can the ice cream sandwich be for the users, if it comes with the exact same sense UI as the gingerbread?
An increased build number in the settings? not worth waiting for IMO
I want an untouched Ice cream sandwich
Sense 3,5? That sucks. What will happen with devices that already have 3,5? Do they just keep it?
Give them some time, either w8 2 month for sense 4.0 with Ginger or 2 month for sense 3.5 with Ice creame
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I dont understand why HTC would want to ruin what from all ive read is by far the best and most professional version of Android yet by adding bloody sense on top again
all HTC needs to do is add Sense widgets to stock ICS and call it a day.
That would be perfect... but HTC won't...
they better not mess it up and make it lag.
I understand they have to add sense on to it as one of their biggest USPs. I dont really see the point of adding 3.5 though other than getting a phone out running ICS. I certainly wont be flashing anything ICS + Sense 3.5, id rather wait for a pure build like CM9, or wait until/if they sort out sense 4.
Sense 3.5 is really good and way better than Sense 3.0 and probably with ICS it'll get better with hw acceleration and remember the post talks about initial rom, probably public release will have Sense 4.0
HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
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HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
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Im wondering the same thing ... im fine with it as long as i can remove sense cu then ill have a stable ics base
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HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
Matt
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I don't think you can count on that. HTC removes stuff from original ICS, and then ads sense into it. So I don't think you will run a stable version of ICS without sense.
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I don't think you can count on that. HTC removes stuff from original ICS, and then ads sense into it. So I don't think you will run a stable version of ICS without sense.
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That sucks. How much of a chump will I feel for freezing Sense, then adding ADW EX, and then finally having to run an ICS theme? Sheesh.
Well, Im sure that once HTC has released it CM9 wont be far behind for the Sensation. I could live with ADW EX until CM9 comes out.
Matt
Why did anyone think for one second Sense would not be in this release? EVERY HTC device has Sense as it's the selling point. Don't like it, get a different handset - it's a simple solution.
Have to say, though, Android 4 is awesome
Everyone sais ics looks good and stuff and yer most of it does but am I the only one who thinks any vanilla Android launcher looks so boring? And the widgets sucks. I love sense, however I'd like 4.0 just for something new
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Honestly, we guys are looking at the bad site of what HTC could do. Who knows? It might be even better than the stock ICS...
Haven't you guys seen the leaked build of ICS with Touchwiz for the Galaxy S2 phones? It's still the same thing as it is currently. Same thing with Sense, it'll be the same exact thing, we won't even get the new battery/wifi/signal icons that come with ICS.
I still wouldn't mind it though, I love Sense, some hate it. And plus with hardware acceleration, hopefully it'd be quicker.
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Haven't you guys seen the leaked build of ICS with Touchwiz for the Galaxy S2 phones? It's still the same thing as it is currently. Same thing with Sense, it'll be the same exact thing, we won't even get the new battery/wifi/signal icons that come with ICS.
I still wouldn't mind it though, I love Sense, some hate it. And plus with hardware acceleration, hopefully it'd be quicker.
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We wont get those icons? -.-'' x2
If they put sense 3,5 in it, and it removes some stuff, then there is no actual point of giving us 4.0
Hey everyone. So I would like to bring you some discussion here about on what the future holds for our HTC Desire S when it respects to the official HTC support.
The main question here is, what do you think that HTC will do with the Desire S? Will they bring ICS to it? Will they try to be soft and bring just Sense 3.5? Or is our Desire S done and no more updates will come? It would be quite interesting to see what everyone thinks that may happen in the next few months
i doubt very much we will see anymore major official updates ,just maye a few revisions.htc support there phones pretty badly tbh,and as much as i love my desire s and this community i doubt very much i would purchase another one of the htc phones as it will carry on the same legacy i expect .
I think HTC will do nothing. They can't support all the phones they released which is why they've decided to take it slow
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I hope that HTC is still going to release an ICS update for Desire S, but that's probably false hope. HTC has released too many phones (about 5 different versions of the Sensation?) to provide support for every phone. They will just concentrate on the higher-end models, which unfortunately the Desire S isn't. Luckily there is a great community working hard to provide us with future updates
The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/htcs-uk-ceo-wants-to-ease-off-the-new-product-gas-focus-on-am/
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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what he said..... hit the nail on the head with that one
Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
The only reason i recommended the xperia ray was because he HAS to have a Vodafone upgrade. Vodafone's stock ROM on the desire s has that ludicrous 'pocket mode' forced on, and you can't turn it off. 8 hours battery life max. My dad ended up sending his back for that reason. He wouldn't let me root it!
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Sorry, i wasn't suggesting that the desire s couldn't cope. I'm pretty sure it could. Just saying that in my opinion it's unlikely HTC will be in a hurry to stop us buying more handsets, and it will be good to see what the devs here manage to port for us.
This week a friend asked me what he should upgrade to this march. He has an old desire, and isn't a heavy user. Not interested in dual cores or massive screens. I looked at all the options and it was still the desire s or the Xperia Ray.
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No mate, I wasn't ranting at you
I was criticizing HTC for their poor decision. If the XL is getting ICS, we should get it. We have the same specs.
Heck, even the 2010 phone, Desire HD has near identical specs as the XL. Even that, should get ICS..
Silly move by HTC.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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HTC has done many contradictions in the past and sometimes they had to go back in what they said.
First when the Sensation came out people asked if Sense 3.0 would come to older devices then HTC quickly stated that older devices could not run it due to hardware restrictions. Then they released the HTC Rhyme with !GHz CPU and 768MB of RAM running even newer version Sense 3.5. So HTC gave us Sense 3.0 as it was evident that it could run it.
After that we had the Desire 2.3 update. HTC telling people the phone didn't have enough memory for Gingerbread and they had just released the Wildfire S with even worse hardware running Gingerbread from start. So HTC gave people with Desire the 2.3 update.
Then now with ICS. It is obvious that the Desire S can run it (Nexus S...) but with Sense over it and HTC's hesitations over support may lead to no update.
My theory is that when a phone is released it has to be updated to at least one version of Android. The Desire S came out with 2.3 from start so we can believe that it will come to ICS. We will get the answer when HTC reveals the second wave of updates to us.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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Very good explanation!
I really do hope that's the case!
I think the DHD is a lucky device... It started with 2.2, got 2.3.3 + New sense 2.1, then another update to 2.3.5 + sense 3.0. If we get ICS, the DHD will have to get ICS (same specs). I don't think HTC want to give the dhd anymore updates
So HTC might choose not to give us ICS for that reason otherwise they would also have to update the DHD.
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
Dont know about you guys but HTC has always been keep-the-customer-in-dark with Desire S. IMHO I dont know why they do it... I mean it came with sense 2.1 and 2.3 when I bought. After a while some patches and fotas were there but when we got sense 3.0 it was some guys phone which got updated made the news not a disclosure or say news by HTC that its been updated and which makes my geeky mind cheer in the doubt of my mind that we may recieve ICS officially
Now about the thing that here are devs that are doing a hard job to get ICS on ours and imo they have been succesful as in there-was-no-way-but-they-did-it successful. But think if theres an official update what might happen then? I am no dev or **** but as I understand that would made works on other roms ports a heck lot easier...
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I may be wrong, but my feeling is that all devices from Desire HD and Desire Z and later will receive the update. The Desire HD was the top phone for HTC of it's time and I don't think HTC will kill it if they decide to give Desire S the update.
The only question here is the all mighty Sense UI and that is HTC's fault because they built a so deeply integrated UI. Honestly I can live without the 3D transitions as ICS actually has its own ones. It will up to what HTC will do with Sense UI.
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Good explanation, but keep in mind, the Desire Z did not receive the official Sense 3.0 update.
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Fair enough, I would have believed HTC if they released a official statement about Desire S not meeting hardware requirements.
However, hearing that the Sensation XL is receiving ICS really got me annoyed. It proves the hardware is capable.
The XL is almost identical to us, apart from the OC'ed chip, and thats getting ICS.
I don't see why we can't get the upgrade.
Where is HTC's announcement of the second wave of devices that are getting ICS too? We are still yet to hear from them.
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This is pretty sad, if HTC won't upgrade our Desire S to ICS. I mean, Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup--and those have the same chipsets as our Desire S! SE's flagship for last year, the Xperia Arc, was launched around the same time frame as our Desire S, with virtually the same Qualcomm chipset. No way HTC can use that excuse, and they know it.
18 months is not yet up for this phone, so if Google is right, we should expect support/updates till around September or so of 2012. As much as I dislike Sense, HTC ought to be ashamed of itself if they won't give us ICS. I can imagine they're in a bind, because they are compelled to give us ICS, but don't want us playing around with the ICS'ed Sense 4.0 and would rather have us get newer, more expensive 4 inch slabs
Come on, HTC. Gain some goodwill among us. Roll out ICS and the latest Sense. You know it makes Sense
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Sony Ericsson has announced and committed to ICS upgrades for their 2011 lineup
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That's the way to go, but just as always magic will not happen and HTC Desire S probably will not get ICS update because of that politic, meanwhile Sony Ericsson goes more democratical way and releases updates for customers, not only "top list'' customers as HTC do. I respect HTC, but the point how they sorts updates by devices is to drastic, just too painful for user like us, who knows what their device is able to do, but they simply do not feed it. To be honest, if HTC Desire S will get official ICS update, then it will mean that HTC is changing their political statement and magic is happening.
You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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You guys havent read the internal leak that confirmed ICS for desire s?
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dude, our posts are from days before the leak came out
But thanks for the effort I guess there will hopefully be a strong future for us!
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The current/typical market trend IS to take advantage of the thirst for the bleeding-edge OS and the cutting-edge hardware, and as businesses, they'd be mugs for not exploiting that. There is no way HTC had any serious plans for giving the Desire S official ICS ROM. However...
They (HTC) have gotten the balance wrong this year and they know it. Too much quantity, not enough quality. Sooner or later, even the rich kids will get fed up of being 'expected' to upgrade a handset every 8 months to stay 'on trend'.
At least HTC seem to have taken note of this...
Don't forget the original Desire did eventually (through popular demand) get an official gingerbread update, just that HTC never designed the phone's hardware to cope with the increased size of the OS over Froyo. So disclaimers were required should we then complain that there were only enough room for 10 apps once 2.3.3 was installed!
But on the flip-side this is why you chose Android. This is why you chose XDA. You want something that comes out of the box, and gives you the opportunity to improve it in your own way, to your own liking. To take the initiative. We almost need HTC to drop the ball so we can pick it up and run with it.
The day a stock Android phone comes out of the box perfect to everyone's needs for years after its purchase will be a sad day for XDA.
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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He already said what I wanted to said
I like the line "This is why you choose Android and XDA"
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Well good news anyway:
HTC announced ICS officially for us!
YIPPEE!!!
Hi everyone,
Today I was just reading about Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, and I couldn't help but wonder if it will be ported to Sensation XE.
An upgrade from Gingerbread (2.3.4) to Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean required a corresponding firmware upgrade, which was "conveniently" released by HTC. As far as I know, nobody is invloved in firmware development for Sensation XE (for obvious reasons, I suppose), and the next K release on Android will most likely require new firmware which, let's be honest, HTC is quite unlikely to release.
So, what are your thoughts on Key Lime Pie being ported to Sensation XE?
More reading!
Well there was no firmware release for jb on the sensation. So ur using ICS firmware on jb. The same will follow, correct me if wrong.
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Well there was no firmware release for jb on the sensation. So ur using ICS firmware on jb. The same will follow, correct me if wrong.
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Well, JB could run on the same firmware as ICS. I'm guessing it was because it was in some ways similar to ics (ics (4.0) to(4.1/2/3)).
However ics cannot run on gingerbread firmware. Isn't it likely that Key Lime Pie will need need a new firmware too. I mean it's supposed to be a major upgrade.
Yeah I guess I see what u mean. But I still don't think ICS and jb are similar enough to justify the use of the same firmware. Then again I don't know that much detail about the developmental level so u could very much be right.
All we can do is wait and see I guess. Hopefully there is no extra firmware needed though.
Honeycomb and ICS look similar and are 3.0 and 4.0
Froyo and GB look similar as well and are 2.2 and 2.3
So hard to say really
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Yeah I guess I see what u mean. But I still don't think ICS and jb are similar enough to justify the use of the same firmware. Then again I don't know that much detail about the developmental level so u could very much be right.
All we can do is wait and see I guess. Hopefully there is no extra firmware needed though.
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Well I really hope Sensation gets Key Lime Pie. Fingers Crossed
Huh... tough one.
We just recently got the working JB (Sense) rom thanx to SebastianFM's kernel (Search for Revelation rom) which is great for th efirst release.
and as far as I know it was a preatty tough task to accomplish.
So, I belive, that IF we get the Key Lime Pie we'll get it firs in AOKP or CM rom's... not that sure about the Sense based roms.
But like you said... fingers crossed. :fingers-crossed:
As far as I know, it's possible, as devices which did not get official ICS upgrades were upgraded and are working well (for example, the i9000 Galaxy S, and many even older devices (My sister's old Optimus One runs JB, albeit it has it's own bugs)). The fact HTC released a new firmware for ICS certainly helped, but it was not necessary, because when you port a ROM to your device, you build it to run on a certain firmware. If we wouldn't have a new firmware, devs would probably port it to the older firmware version.
What's happening with JB and SebastianFM's kernel is that since ICS, Google began transition to ION memory management and drivers, instead of PMEM (which was used on Qualcomm devices, and each chip manufacturer had it's own tech). Since JB, ION became the preffered solution, and that's why AOSP based roms such as cyanogenmod and AOKP could run, but Sense 4+ (android 4.1) couldn't, as it requires ION drivers on the Kernel level.
So what I believe, it will be possible. newer firmware isn't necessary, as when a ROM is ported, it's made to work with the existing firmware. And for the kernel related, I wan't to believe that once we have full ION drivers, problems will be easier to solve, but that is for the future.
I'm not a dev, that's just my understanding of things.
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As far as I know, it's possible, as devices which did not get official ICS upgrades were upgraded and are working well (for example, the i9000 Galaxy S, and many even older devices (My sister's old Optimus One runs JB, albeit it has it's own bugs)). The fact HTC released a new firmware for ICS certainly helped, but it was not necessary, because when you port a ROM to your device, you build it to run on a certain firmware. If we wouldn't have a new firmware, devs would probably port it to the older firmware version.
What's happening with JB and SebastianFM's kernel is that since ICS, Google began transition to ION memory management and drivers, instead of PMEM (which was used on Qualcomm devices, and each chip manufacturer had it's own tech). Since JB, ION became the preffered solution, and that's why AOSP based roms such as cyanogenmod and AOKP could run, but Sense 4+ (android 4.1) couldn't, as it requires ION drivers on the Kernel level.
So what I believe, it will be possible. newer firmware isn't necessary, as when a ROM is ported, it's made to work with the existing firmware. And for the kernel related, I wan't to believe that once we have full ION drivers, problems will be easier to solve, but that is for the future.
I'm not a dev, that's just my understanding of things.
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Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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AndroidSupporter318 said:
Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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As things are going now, the chances of having a Sense KLP ROM on our Sensation are low, as the One S currently won't get any more updates, and ROMs are ported from a version of it (ville c2).
And for the low RAM, I don't think it's a problem yet, as devices with 512MB run JB quite well. but a better memory management is always good.
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As things are going now, the chances of having a Sense KLP ROM on our Sensation are low, as the One S currently won't get any more updates, and ROMs are ported from a version of it (ville c2).
And for the low RAM, I don't think it's a problem yet, as devices with 512MB run JB quite well. but a better memory management is always good.
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I don't think that RAM requirements are going to be a problem at all.
Google has already said that it wants android to run equally well on smartphones tablets as well as low end phones, and though Sensation XE may not be high end, it sure as hell isn't low end. So hardware wise, KLP shouldn't have any issued on Sensation.
For example read http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/486414/20130704/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-k.htm
Andoir KLP for a wider set of devices
Far_SighT said:
Hi everyone,
Today I was just reading about Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, and I couldn't help but wonder if it will be ported to Sensation XE.
An upgrade from Gingerbread (2.3.4) to Ice Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean required a corresponding firmware upgrade, which was "conveniently" released by HTC. As far as I know, nobody is invloved in firmware development for Sensation XE (for obvious reasons, I suppose), and the next K release on Android will most likely require new firmware which, let's be honest, HTC is quite unlikely to release.
So, what are your thoughts on Key Lime Pie being ported to Sensation XE?
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a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
ichigo_kurosaki said:
a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
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HTC isn't going to update the Sensation XE. Hell, they only agreed to update the One S after so much protest.
But it would be nice if KLP comes to Sensation XE.
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a while ago i was researching about Android KLP..it just came out of my mind..and i have read that this version will support a wider range of devices, including even low-end smartphones and those with 512MB of RAM. So it's most likely our Senny can cope up to it, as it is said that Android 5 will be optimized to be lighter and built for performance and battery efficiency. it is rumored that this version will make the device smoother, and consume less RAM to make it more quick in performance. i dunno how google will do it but i hopethat said features will materialize and our Senny can taste the new android..it will be a huge leap from 4.0.3 to 5.0. so flashaholics like me, keep a backup of your stock roms! let's just hope HTC won't deny us old phone users this major update.
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HTC already did deny us, after stopping updates, they won't update a 2-year old device. I didn't find any official confirmation for the One S Sense 5 update, but from what I found, it was explained that only the S4 powered One S will be updated, due to lack of software support from Qualcomm to the S3 platform. It's quite hard to believe HTC would make that effort of updating such old device. After all, their interest is to sell new phones, and 2 years are about the average time for an upgrade (personally I'm probably keeping my device for at least the next year before even considering an upgrade).
Maybe as an AOSP port or CM, but I don't think we will get Sensed KLP, and I don't think we'll even get it ported.
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HTC already did deny us, after stopping updates, they won't update a 2-year old device. I didn't find any official confirmation for the One S Sense 5 update, but from what I found, it was explained that only the S4 powered One S will be updated, due to lack of software support from Qualcomm to the S3 platform. It's quite hard to believe HTC would make that effort of updating such old device. After all, their interest is to sell new phones, and 2 years are about the average time for an upgrade (personally I'm probably keeping my device for at least the next year before even considering an upgrade).
Maybe as an AOSP port or CM, but I don't think we will get Sensed KLP, and I don't think we'll even get it ported.
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Too bad that even the One S HTC release wouldn't do us any good. But I really hope that at least KLP AOSP roms can run on current firmware.
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My previous device (HTC WILDFIRE) last official relase was Froyo but it runned gb ics and jb (very slow because lack of gpu and very very bad processor) but i hope we can enjoy KLP on our sensation
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AndroidSupporter318 said:
Yes, if the sensation does indeed get android 5.0 key like pie, then it is pretty much going to be AOSP first, no sense version. Also, I don't know anything about key lime pie, but we probably need that 3.4 kernel with ION to work on AOSP based ROMs first.
Not to be skeptical, but I think there's not really a chance that key lime pie could run on a pmem kernel. Plus, the Sensation's ram is only 768 megabytes, so some type of more advanced memory allocator is probably required.
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KLP Will be able to run good on devices with 512mb ram
"Officials Said, to run Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie your device must have minimum 512MB ram and 1GB for smooth running. "
( http://www.techcodez.com/android-5-0-key-lime-pie/ )
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Sensation are not supported now so... in my opinion they are not in future
vito.exe said:
Sensation are not supported now so... in my opinion they are not in future
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Buddy, you needn't say that. (Everybody's ) Sensation XE might be old, but that doesn't mean it's useless.
If you have any doubts see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391968.
Besides KLP requirements have been confirmed. Sensation can definately run KLP. I just have concerns if the current ics/jb firmware can support it, because firmware updates come from htc only.
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Buddy, you needn't say that. (Everybody's ) Sensation XE might be old, but that doesn't mean it's useless.
If you have any doubts see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391968.
Besides KLP requirements have been confirmed. Sensation can definately run KLP. I just have concerns if the current ics/jb firmware can support it, because firmware updates come from htc only.
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agree :good:
Check out the specs for an upcoming phone, the htc Zara. Lots of similar specs to the sensation. It comes with jelly bean but since htc usually gives at least one os update, it's not hard to imagine that phone with key lime pie some day.
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funkymonkey_01 said:
Check out the specs for an upcoming phone, the htc Zara. Lots of similar specs to the sensation. It comes with jelly bean but since htc usually gives at least one os update, it's not hard to imagine that phone with key lime pie some day.
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but it has different emmc and gpu chip