Dec 20 2011 02:00 PM | Paul in - Android News
Have you been wondering what HTC plan to do with Ice Cream Sandwich on their devices?
Well, wonder no more as one of our internal sources at HTC has managed to lay his hands on their very first internally distributed test build of Google's latest and greatest. Built on Android 4.0.1 (the build is a month old, and it will become 4.0.3 by the time it hits public release), the first test releases are intended for the HTC Sensation / Sensation XE and sport the 3.0x version tag. The usual HTC customisations are present including HTC Sense 3.5, so don't expect any massive visual changes for Ice Cream Sandwich. As you would expect, ICS has been slightly sliced and dice to give the HTC experience - Facelock is present but the new keyboard is replaced by an updated HTC IME etc.
We hope to have some ICS on Sensation screenshots very soon... watch this space!
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Why sense 3.5 that it sucks!?!?!?!
We need leak .-)
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How different can the ice cream sandwich be for the users, if it comes with the exact same sense UI as the gingerbread?
An increased build number in the settings? not worth waiting for IMO
I want an untouched Ice cream sandwich
Sense 3,5? That sucks. What will happen with devices that already have 3,5? Do they just keep it?
Give them some time, either w8 2 month for sense 4.0 with Ginger or 2 month for sense 3.5 with Ice creame
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I dont understand why HTC would want to ruin what from all ive read is by far the best and most professional version of Android yet by adding bloody sense on top again
all HTC needs to do is add Sense widgets to stock ICS and call it a day.
That would be perfect... but HTC won't...
they better not mess it up and make it lag.
I understand they have to add sense on to it as one of their biggest USPs. I dont really see the point of adding 3.5 though other than getting a phone out running ICS. I certainly wont be flashing anything ICS + Sense 3.5, id rather wait for a pure build like CM9, or wait until/if they sort out sense 4.
Sense 3.5 is really good and way better than Sense 3.0 and probably with ICS it'll get better with hw acceleration and remember the post talks about initial rom, probably public release will have Sense 4.0
HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
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mrg02d said:
HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
Matt
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Im wondering the same thing ... im fine with it as long as i can remove sense cu then ill have a stable ics base
mrg02d said:
HTC and all the others are going to add their gimmick with out a doubt. Why would they not? Thats THEIR calling card afterall.
The question is, can WE remove it? I used TB to freeze Sense on my phone and replaced Sense with ADW EX. Now the question is, can I freeze Sense and let ICS come out to play, or is ICS launcher gone at this point?
Matt
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I don't think you can count on that. HTC removes stuff from original ICS, and then ads sense into it. So I don't think you will run a stable version of ICS without sense.
TheStigx said:
I don't think you can count on that. HTC removes stuff from original ICS, and then ads sense into it. So I don't think you will run a stable version of ICS without sense.
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That sucks. How much of a chump will I feel for freezing Sense, then adding ADW EX, and then finally having to run an ICS theme? Sheesh.
Well, Im sure that once HTC has released it CM9 wont be far behind for the Sensation. I could live with ADW EX until CM9 comes out.
Matt
Why did anyone think for one second Sense would not be in this release? EVERY HTC device has Sense as it's the selling point. Don't like it, get a different handset - it's a simple solution.
Have to say, though, Android 4 is awesome
Everyone sais ics looks good and stuff and yer most of it does but am I the only one who thinks any vanilla Android launcher looks so boring? And the widgets sucks. I love sense, however I'd like 4.0 just for something new
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Honestly, we guys are looking at the bad site of what HTC could do. Who knows? It might be even better than the stock ICS...
Haven't you guys seen the leaked build of ICS with Touchwiz for the Galaxy S2 phones? It's still the same thing as it is currently. Same thing with Sense, it'll be the same exact thing, we won't even get the new battery/wifi/signal icons that come with ICS.
I still wouldn't mind it though, I love Sense, some hate it. And plus with hardware acceleration, hopefully it'd be quicker.
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Haven't you guys seen the leaked build of ICS with Touchwiz for the Galaxy S2 phones? It's still the same thing as it is currently. Same thing with Sense, it'll be the same exact thing, we won't even get the new battery/wifi/signal icons that come with ICS.
I still wouldn't mind it though, I love Sense, some hate it. And plus with hardware acceleration, hopefully it'd be quicker.
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We wont get those icons? -.-'' x2
If they put sense 3,5 in it, and it removes some stuff, then there is no actual point of giving us 4.0
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Ginger Bread doesn't necessarily mean Sense 3.0
I think people are seeing sense 3.0 and confusing it with GB 2.3.4
Most likely won't be in the OEM GB release
possibly an addon ??
but you will most likely have to root to get any Sense 3.0 features.
The GB update has sense 2.1. HTC made it pretty clear they are not going to update existing phones to sense 3.0.
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The GB update has sense 2.1. HTC made it pretty clear they are not going to update existing phones to sense 3.0.
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Good thing we have developers who will port it over
for real shawn...i love sense...my fone runs just as fast with it as w/ out it....and the new sense stuff really is nice...my iphone friend was looking at the lock screen and he goes this is some crazy ****...then i looked at my friends nexus s and i was just like yeah it is pretty crazy and you won't see it on anyone else tb unless they did what i did hahaha
Yeah , running 3.0 on my Inc and the messaging apps are outstanding. The 3D home screen is wild also.
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Is anybody here party to any reliable information regarding an official sense 3.5 ota?
I find 3.5 a nice improvment on 3.0 and would love to get it officially with the minor bugs ironed out that are present in the leaked test release.
Do we think (or know) that this will happen or will we have to wait for a further iteration of sense (4.0?) before we get any official updates.
I get the impression that the dev's are a little quiet at the moment so perhaps some people know things that the rest of us are not party to??
There's talk that as ICS is out early next year HTC won't bother with officially releasing the leaked ROM. However, we may still get Sense 3.5 as there's nothing to suggest we'll get Sense 4.0 when ICS is released
I hope it soon comes....
Find the HTCnotebook as widget so great, it would soon like to have...
HTC Sensation with CoreDroid 2.5
EddyOS said:
There's talk that as ICS is out early next year HTC won't bother with officially releasing the leaked ROM. However, we may still get Sense 3.5 as there's nothing to suggest we'll get Sense 4.0 when ICS is released
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I don't think that htc Will leave us atto 2.3.4 till ICS release...
In my opinion the 2.3.5 with sense 3.5 Will arrive (sooner or later)
i think that sense 3.5 comes with ICS
they just devepoped a new sense and they are not going to use it?
well seems not really understandable to me so i would guess
ICS 4.0 with HTC sense 3.5
otherwise it would be (again) a sense 3.0 (or 3.5) based UI with only slight changes and nothing big to show
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i think that sense 3.5 comes with ICS
they just devepoped a new sense and they are not going to use it?
well seems not really understandable to me so i would guess
ICS 4.0 with HTC sense 3.5
otherwise it would be (again) a sense 3.0 (or 3.5) based UI with only slight changes and nothing big to show
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The fact is that in my opinion htc could't leave One or its top devices with an older software than other devices like htc rhyme or sensation xl
Greetings to all developers and super users, I'm just eager to know what are your opinions on the latest SenseUI on top of ICS.
In my opinion, the Sense 3.5 is just not made for ICS at all. It's just an emergency move made by HTC team to release Sense for ICS. This is due to other platforms which quickly developed their patch ICS upgrade for their devices. I't just an 'emergency landing' for HTC.
In Sense 3.6 they've fixed some minor stuff in 3.5 which doesn't fit well together with the ICS framework. BUt still, how the SenseUI in ICS gave an impression to me is that IT IS NOT WELL CONCEPTED! Not as beautiful as Sense 3.0 in GB compared to other manufaturers' UI.
So I'm just saying that I am really eager to see Sense 4.0 for ICS in the near future.
What say you guys?
if HTC had actually given it a bit more AOSP style to Sense with ICS, then it might be ok....but as it, it actually looks like poop in my honest opinion...hence I now run Virtuous Inquisition 3.0.0
True, I think at the moment, Mathias' design concept is more mature than HTC's. But the fact is that many feature in ICS is already adopted since Sense 3.0. So I think that Sense 4.0 will be a blast again
sense is awful... that is just my opinion
I don't mind a little bit of sense (Some comes in handy sometimes) but they basically killed the beauty of ICS with there **** sense overlay. At least color stuff correctly. It looks very hurried and just glued together on htcs part. With that said virtuous Inq took out all the crappy junk that HTC put in and made it great again.
I'm actually considering a move to Virtuous ROM. Because it's the best AOSP so far I saw plus everyone's been using that.
I agreed with the glued part. It is really like just glued in a hurry. Not like the usual SENSEUI..
Yes sense 4.0 will totally change Ics UI....we have to wait some days.
The question is WHEN...
there are some leaks about it.. but not convincing enough...
Just hope it will be epic as ever ^^
sense 3.5/3.6 doesnyt really fit to ics, htc got to rethink their vision of new sense, but first news gives us hope that htc has right direction
on the other hand i can't work without sense, its the most complex launcher and i've tried working without it, but it was pointless, always comming back to sense
Personally,i just want aosp based rom. I hate Sense and always did dating back from my old Wildfire lol.
Using HyperSense CM7 ATM
ok, after I tried using Virtuous 3.0.0, I decided to go back to ARHD.
reason??
Because after using the AOSP based ROM, I realized how Sense made life easier. Although I must say that the AOSP has better design than Sense 3.5/4.6, but there are still some functions which Sense came really handy with.
So mean while, I'm coming back to ARHD ^^
It's insulting. 3.6 is such a minor "upgrade" to 3.5 while 4.0 is a massive upgrade (no quotes) to 2.3.x, putting that ****lick overlay on top of AOSP totally kills it. That, and the gray color scheme introduced in 3.5 is aweful, it's so dull. Sense 3.0 is the last decent Sense.
I agree, actually maybe Sense 3.0 was so great is because it has huge improvement from the previous Sense.
I would love to have ICS stock camera app in htc sense..
i think sense 3.6 is just a quick update to shut all of us up about wanting ICS
after some time we'll get a better sense version...
remember sense 2.1? it was absolutely the same in froyo and gingerbread but when HTC announced the sensation it was rocking sense 3.0 and everyone was drooling over it
While the first pictures and videos of ICS emerged, I told my self "nah, that can't be it. They said they where about to make it look better... "
When ICS was officially announced, I was deeply disappointed, that it really looked as ugly as it did in the leaked versions.
So I'm really enjoying sense 3.6, even if I had hoped for more.
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Personally Im not really looking forward to ICS with Sense 3.6. ICS is one thing but IMO Sense 3.6 isnt exactly different from Sense 3. The only thing I like about 3.6 is its camera but it isnt really a make or break decision for me.
If HTC rolls out ICS and Sense 4.0 for Sensation sometime later, I do hope they'll have better camera features (not over Sense 3 of course, even 3.6 camera trumps over 3.0 lol)
But I think Sense 3.6 is a compensation of ICS design. Because the original ICS has no menu button and Sensation has menu button.
...want Sense 3.6 to be the final Sense version that we get for the Sensation? I mean, I love it. It's great. Obviously a more polished version makes sense, however, I think this sense version is pretty great. (I've had tons of Sense phones and have used many roms.) Sense 4.0 looks so... Blah... to me. That plain grey, I like it on AOSP and in the menus on Sense 3.6... but for it to be the launcher bar on the bottom... I dunno. I feel like they are doing away with the glassy gloss of Sense that made me love it.
Anyone else agree?
Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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They do open the kernel source up, but IIRC it's only after a phone or update with that version of the kernel is shipped this occurs.
So my guess is once they push out the ICS update they will make the kernel source available here: http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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Yes, I would love to see sense die, but it seems to be popular enough to some that it keeps HTC making it. These custom skins also give a layer of distinction between manufacturers. I know my next phone will be a Nexus phone or a phone that active and successful AOSP based roms. I don't like how HTC doesn't open up the source for the sensation making it harder for devs to cook up fully functional roms.
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Don't get me wrong, I love Sense. However, I don't like the direction they are going with Sense 4.0. I would like the new landscape rosie and lockscreen, other than that... Sense 3.6 is the way I like my Sensation.
Μe too,I think now they are making it too grey ang ugly for me.sense 3.6 has that touch polish you can't see elsewhere.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
Personally I can't stand sense, but thats just a personal preference. I didn't realize how much I disliked it until I received a sense device. I used to think it was just a skin and a different launcher would fix it.
It would be great if HTC offered factory baked AOSP roms as an option. So those who want a regular android experience will continue to buy HTC phones and can do so without voiding their warranty. I get why people like sense, even more when you take it back to windows mobile 6.x (touchflo), but as long as sense is a part of HTC phones for the future, I will no longer buy phones from them. Except for 9 months on blackberry I have had only HTC phones for at least 6 years.
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I think 3.6 is kinda ugly. Those grays are very real in Sense 3.6 but they have a bluish tint to them. I just wish the current releases weren't so laggy. Sure, they're stable and the lag is tolerable, but nothing beats AOSP 4.0
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Blue tint is a bug affecting some users. Flash this kernel to fix it: 1.512_GHz_overclocked_kernel_3.0.16-g9788208_by_SebastianFM.zip
You can't really complain about Sense 4.0 when no one has even used it.
All you've seen so far are leaked videos and pictures. It could still change before it's released.
So from what i can see and know the leaked release for 3.6 keep rolling out and they are def getting better, what i don't know is that sense 4.0 with ics is about to release mid march + to our sensations. So why are there updates for 3.6.
Just guessing but id say that the 3.6 is preparation for sense 4.0, will use the same base but with sense 4.0 in place instead ??.
Thank you ;D
Sorry but where do you have a confirmed, reliable source saying that the Sensation is getting Sense 4.0 in March? There are rumors but they are not reliable. And you answered your own question anyway: the leaks have 3.6 because that's what the final version is going to have. There is no way that they would test with 3.6 for months and then suddenly switch to 4.0 with less than a month left.
Oh k so sense 4.0 is never going to be on sensation ?, um i never said confirmed but htc did say on many occasions that ICS would be released to sensation before the end of march.
no we will most likely get 4.0 but a leak is a leak some guy at htc posted it "i think htc leaks them self for free testing" and then devs work on it and beta test it and share with us a final version is the last one they are supporting as on now if you have a tech problem with 3.2 htc will tell you to upgrade TO final version
oh most releases fixes a known problem only a update and the releases from a dev may or may not be a new release he could have just fixed his rom look at change logs
ICS is coming but not with Sense 4.0, at least not at first. It will drop with 3.6 and if we're lucky we might get 4.0 at some point.
might update to the htc one, seems like a better phone atm.
new i would wait all phones have bugs we are just getting good now
wouldn't count on it
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ICS is coming but not with Sense 4.0, at least not at first. It will drop with 3.6 and if we're lucky we might get 4.0 at some point.
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I don't think Sensation will ever get sense 4 - if you look at their new line, the One V (cheapie phone) ships with ICS and Sense 3.6, I think that's probably what Sensation will eventually get. Might not be bad though 3.6 is looking a little less resource hungry than 3.5 but still keeps mostly the faux 3d feel of sense (sense 4 looks more flattened). You will probably just have more stock ICS components - Stock Multitask for example.
HTC ONE V COMES WITH SENSE 4 THAT IS CONFIRMED ON HTC WEBSITE, SO SENSATION SHOULD ALSO GET SENSE 4 I SUPPOSE
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I don't think Sensation will ever get sense 4 - if you look at their new line, the One V (cheapie phone) ships with ICS and Sense 3.6, I think that's probably what Sensation will eventually get. Might not be bad though 3.6 is looking a little less resource hungry than 3.5 but still keeps mostly the faux 3d feel of sense (sense 4 looks more flattened). You will probably just have more stock ICS components - Stock Multitask for example.
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i read some were that they are releasing a beta overseas for a few users with 4.0
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Baadnewz posted yesterday this:
Ice Cream Sandwich Final Build for Sensation
Finally HTC Released Ice Cream Sandwich for Sensation
Android version: 4.0.3
HTC Sense version 3.6
Build number 3.32.401.3 CL309896 release-keys
But it was released to only 300 persons. Stay tuned . Rom coming soon
So, we become 3.6 based ICS first.
But i think we'll become 4.0 later, too. I mean it's a very fast phone and the release date of it was may 2011. It's not yet a year old!
they has to release it to us!
As far i could read in a report from the MWC in Barca HTC Sense 4.0 will have first release with the new HTC one smartphone.
But if it is true.....nobody knows....
just wait for that One S that's coming to T-Mobile US, its got crazy similar hardware to our Sensations and its supposed to swap the tegra 3 for the snapdragon s4 (we have the s3). That rom should be much better.
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i read some were that they are releasing a beta overseas for a few users with 4.0
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android 4.0, ie. ice cream sandwich. not sense 4.0.
unfortunately no officially support for sense 4 on sensation...sorry.
After sense 4,waiting for sense 5...
Whats the difference anyway?
I find Sense 3.0 and 3.5 having nearly everything.
Getting an additional place to put an app's icon is not enough to be excited about...face lock? nice gadget...
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Whats the difference anyway?
I find Sense 3.0 and 3.5 having nearly everything.
Getting an additional place to put an app's icon is not enough to be excited about...face lock? nice gadget...
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How bout much lighter than Sense 3.0 and 3.5? HTC admits that Sense 3.0 onwards is bloated. They changed Sense 4.0 to be lighter
Just now, I have received an information from HTC Poland:
Yes, you will have the new HTC Sense 3.5 or later version when you upgrade your Android to Ice Cream Sandwich.
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well, now beta is with sense 3.6, so final may be is with Sense 4.0 or not
fil1995 said:
Just now, I have received an information from HTC Poland:
well, now beta is with sense 3.6, so final may be is with Sense 4.0 or not
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Still 3.6. final version
Whether or not Sensation gets Sense 4.0, we'll have to wait but it is a long wait. Maybe Q3/Q4 or maybe next year. Definitely not getting Sense 4.0 before the One series hit the stores and definitely not getting Sense 4.0 after One series are already selling.
We have wait a long wait.