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who Google is pitching the Nexus S at?

I don't know quite who Google is pitching the Nexus S at... To me, it makes no sense but I'd like to get the opinion of owners and why you upgraded (or if, indeed, this is your first Android phone)
As I see it, the NS makes no sense whatsoever except perhaps that panel availability for the N1 may have forced their hand - I'm wondering if the switch to Samsung as a manufacturer relates to the availability of AMOLED displays... Both the GS and the NS feel very flimsy to me compared to HTC devices... Although the GPU is much faster, I don't think that alone really justifies it and regardless of my feelings for Samsung as a manufacturer I just can't understand why Google didn't just release 2.3 for the N1, and wait for multicore Cortex A9-based SOCs like Tegra 2 to come to market and give people an actual upgrade regardless of the manufacturer of the device, rather than just the same thing in a different shell, creating yet more market fragmentation?!
Edit: And I've owned a lot of 3G phones with front-facing cameras over the years and have yet to use one! NFC might prove useful, but surely it could've waited for the next 'proper' upgrade to the 'Google Phone'?

Why? Why not.....its powerful, fairly priced, good looking, cutting edge OS, no bloatware, great screen, and it is nice and exclusive.

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Why? Why not.....its powerful, fairly priced, good looking, cutting edge OS, no bloatware, great screen, and it is nice and exclusive.
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Hmm, but that's my point... Which one of those did the N1 not fulfil? Sure, we expect a manufacturer's lines to be upgraded on a regular basis these days, but I just don't think it's enough of a step forward to justify the change... Why spend money on R&D, advertising, etc for a new device that really isn't an upgrade from the one it replaces? And it leaves N1 owners dead in the water for no good reason - I'd be a little less peeved about potentially not getting official updates from Google any more (if I were an N1 owner) if the replacement model were actually an upgrade, with a fancy dual core CPU, higher DPI screen, etc, etc... But it isn't. It just makes no sense
I mean... Imagine if the Nexus One had actually been just a G1 with a different chassis and a faster GPU, yet retained the sluggish CPU, HVGA screen, 3MP camera, etc? Everybody would have laughed at them, yet they do this with the NS and they get applauded. Tegra 2 phones are about to hit the market - does this mean another Google Phone release 6 months down the line?

I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
- Multitouch is way better
- Visibility outdoors is way better
- Capacitive buttons are way better
- gpu is way better
- CPU is better
-External speaker is better
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
- Read/writes to internal memory much faster than class 6 micro sdcard
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
- Build quality is great
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
The Nexus S makes perfect sense to me. The only thing lacking is a car dock and desktop dock. 4G would have been nice but we don't get it in my area anyway. NS is pretty much the perfect phone for me right now.
Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the N1. I just like the NS more.

irishrally said:
Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
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Let's remember that Android have to be optimized for dual cores to fully use its processor. And we all know how manufacturers are with OS updates
+1 for Nexus

Not coming from N1 I cannot comment. However it is fair to say that the original nexus had a long long life....I look at my wife's HTC desire, which we brought when it came out....its obsolete now. All phones get bettered....this time next year I expect dual cores will be rather past it. You will wait forever for the next best thing. Right now a Nexus S is a top drawer device.

Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.

irishrally said:
I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
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Hmm, that's a matter of opinion. I find 4" phones uncomfortable in the pocket.
- Multitouch is way better
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Hmm, that's true, the N1/Desire touch panel is a bit rubbish.
- Capacitive buttons are way better
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I'd prefer physical buttons either way.... Which is the main reason I got the Desire over the N1!
- CPU is better
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Not according to the benchmarks I can find. It's the same, or perhaps just a little slower MHz-to-MHz vs the Scorpion core in the Snapdragons.
- External speaker is better
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True, but they're both pretty tinny compared to some older phones like my Nokia 6233. That should be the benchmark!
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
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I have a 32GB MicroSD in my Desire... I'd like to have that option! No memory slot seems like a massive downgrade to me. Admittedly, I can't upgrade beyond 32GB, but when SDXC becomes more mainstream I can't see that its worth manufacturers cutting corners with the memory card slot. It was one of the most annoying things about my iPhone.
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
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I guess somebody has to use it! I'm glad I've finally heard of somebody who does. Every phone I had between about since 2003 'till the iPhone has had a video calling cam, as do many people I know's phones yet nobody actually seems to use them. Perhaps the prohibitive cost of video calling in the UK is part of the reason, but I'm happy enough talking to people!
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
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If it's not a pentile display, that definitely counts as an upgrade Looks are very subjective - I wouldn't call the Nexus S an 'inspired' design, but at least its not ugly like the Desire HD To me, it looks no better than the N1. The iPhone 4 is prettier, but then I'm an Apple-design whore and could never live with iOS again after using Andoid
- Build quality is great
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Feels flimsy to me... But then, so do all Samsung phones. Mmm, plasticy!
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
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I got 2495 on Quadrant on my Desire running MIUI. Really? And do benchmarks actually matter anyway? I've played with an NS, and it didn't 'feel' any faster than my phone running 2.3. Plus, surely I could have had that performance 10 months ago when the GS was released?
At the end of the day, I'm not questioning that the NS is a better phone than the N1, just whether such a minor upgrade justified it when new generation Android hardware is starting to hit the market now.

unremarked said:
Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.
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I'm not asking anybody to justify anything, I just wonder why Google have made such a move.... I'm sure the NS is a great phone, as for that matter is the GS which is pretty much identical and you could've had nearly a year ago!

Azurael said:
I got 2495 on Quadrant on my Desire running MIUI.
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NS hits 4100 on Quadrant. Check out the bionix kernel thread for screenshots.
Benchmarks don't mean everything but they do mean something.
EDIT: CM7 with 1.5ghz morfic kernel:
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1-star rating for yet another "NS sounds like it sucks, why should I get one?" thread... How many times have all these same questions/challenges/answers been discussed in multiple other threads?
I think anyone who says that the NS isn't a significant improvement over the N1 hardware-wise has probably never touched an NS. Now, if you want to say that the NS isn't a signficant improvement over the Galaxy S line, I wouldn't argue too much.
The display (SuperAMOLED) and touchscreen that actually does more than two points on multitouch, and does it accurately, are leaps and bounds ahead of the N1's overly-red, can't-be-used-in-sunlight display and touchscreen that is prone to inaccurate registration.
The internal ROM space is larger and faster, and you don't have to screw around with apps2sd.
The GPU is the best you can get for the near future.
It's purpose is to show manufacturers what the minimum hardware performance is, and it's market is to target users who wanted the best hardware available at the time of release with the latest version of the OS.

distortedloop said:
I think anyone who says that the NS isn't a significant improvement over the N1 hardware-wise has probably never touched an NS. Now, if you want to say that the NS isn't a signficant improvement over the Galaxy S line, I wouldn't argue too much.
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Look... I'm not slagging you, or anybody else who bought a Nexus S off - it (like the N1) is a brilliant phone. Obviously, nobody would buy an N1 over an NS now, since they're a similar price. I'm slagging Google off for needlessly diluting the market with a product that simply doesn't need to, or have a reason to exist, rather than holding out only a couple of months for a new platform which would actually have given customers something they couldn't have bought before.
And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S. Not for long, but for long enough to know that it's exactly the same phone as the Galaxy S (a phone I did borrow for a week or so while deciding which Android phone to buy) which I could have bought 10 months ago. The fact that it is a phone I passed over to buy the Desire due to its smaller size, better build quality and less broken software (at the time, although I'm sure both the original Galaxy S and Nexus S have brilliant software even if you stick to official releases NOW.) is irrelevant to the point I'm making and purely my opinion.

Azurael said:
Look... I'm not slagging you, or anybody else who bought a Nexus S off - it (like the N1) is a brilliant phone. Obviously, nobody would buy an N1 over an NS now, since they're a similar price. I'm slagging Google off for needlessly diluting the market with a product that simply doesn't need to, or have a reason to exist, rather than holding out only a couple of months for a new platform which would actually have given customers something they couldn't have bought before.
And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S. Not for long, but for long enough to know that it's exactly the same phone as the Galaxy S (a phone I did borrow for a week or so while deciding which Android phone to buy) which I could have bought 10 months ago. The fact that it is a phone I passed over to buy the Desire due to its smaller size, better build quality and less broken software (at the time, although I'm sure both the original Galaxy S and Nexus S have brilliant software even if you stick to official releases NOW.) is irrelevant to the point I'm making and purely my opinion.
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Doesn't need to exist? Sounds like you just don't like Samsung.
I own a Nexus One, Vibrant, Droid X, Nexus S, G1, etc.
The Vibrant used to be the fastest of them all. The Vibrant was my main phone but there was one problem. RFS file system. It needed stock Google. I even worked on ROMs trying to clone stock Google onto the Vibrant, then the Nexus S came out with Gingerbread.
The Vibrant itself is superior to the Nexus One. The Nexus S is better than the Vibrant because of stock Google, lack of RFS, and because of Gingerbread's Hummingbird CPU JIT optimizations.
Now, the Vibrant running Froyo was still smooth and sleaker than any phone I've touched including the G2 etc. But the Nexus S is the next level up because of Gingerbread.
The Hummingbird is superior to the Nexus S Snapdragon. However the MyTouch 4g and G2 have about equal processing power as the Hummingbird, BUT the Hummingbird has the best GPU out, and WILL continue to have the best GPU out until the Qualcomm dual core or Orion comes to phones. The Tegra2 has a worse GPU than the Hummingbird. The GPU is what makes everything smooth.
The Nexus S will be top of the line until Q4 of 2011. Just like the Nexus One was pretty up there until Q4 of 2010.
Educate yourself on the processors, Hummingbird, Tegra2, Orion, Qualcomm, etc.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...ion-samsungs-implementation-of-arm-cortex-a9/
You may say the Nexus S was unnecessary, but in all honesty it couldn't be more necessary. We needed a new stock Android with a 4" screen, a Hummingbird or better CPU/GPU combo, front facing camera, and a Super AMOLED.
This phone will be hot stuff. Tegra2 isn't a worthy upgrade to a Hummingbird. They're about equal when you balance out CPU / GPU.
I'm crossing my fingers for a 4g Nexus running Honeycomb, with a Super AMOLED / retina combo (extra high resolution), and a Samsung Orion processor / GPU combo at the end of 2011. That would be the fastest device possible, and I won't be upgrading until that is out. Also it should have support for both T-Mobile HSPA+ and AT&T LTE and 3g, and Euro 3g standards. Be a multi-carrier device, just in case I need to move.
Now I'm not saying the Tegra2 is bad, but it's not heaps better than the Hummingbird.

Azurael said:
And yes, if for some bizarre reason it really matters to you, I have used a Nexus S.
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Doesn't matter to me at all.
What's the point of coming into a forum dedicated to the use of a specific device and throwing out remarks like yours?
It's clear you think the device isn't worth the money, and no one's going to convince you otherwise, so why bother? Go off and enjoy your Nexus 1 or whatever you're using - only Google/Samsung can your original questions, and they're not here...

Azurael said:
I'm not asking anybody to justify anything, I just wonder why Google have made such a move.... I'm sure the NS is a great phone, as for that matter is the GS which is pretty much identical and you could've had nearly a year ago!
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'cept I didn't want a Vibrant.
As there is only one poster on these forums, as far as I'm aware anyway, who actually works for Google, they are the only ones qualified to answer you on "why Google made such a move." The rest of your statement pretty much confirms you're yet another snarky poster from another section of the XDA forums who is posting here asking us to justify our purchases because you think we either A) need your permission/approval or B) are incapable of making rational and informed decisions ourselves.
Your question has been answered in the stickied FAQ in this section. I hope a mod will lock this thread soon.
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Q: My toys are better than your toys! Hahahaha!
Stop it and grow up. Different strokes for different folks. People spend their money on what they want to spend it on regardless of your agreement on their choice. Not to mention that this kind of behavior goes against the spirit of this community.
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irishrally said:
I have owned both the N1 and NS. I just sold the N1 because the NS is a much better phone.
- Screen is way better - (larger, smoother, more vibrant). N1 screen, and definitely the iphone4 screen just seem too small after using this. 4" screen is the sweet spot
- Multitouch is way better
- Visibility outdoors is way better
- Capacitive buttons are way better
- gpu is way better
- CPU is better
-External speaker is better
- 16gb internal memory is better for me, 1gb for apps so no more messing with apps2sd, and I have 10GB music on there and plenty of room for everty thing else
- Read/writes to internal memory much faster than class 6 micro sdcard
- FFC is great for talking to gf when either of us are away on business
- I actually like the styling of the phone better than the nexus one. The all black look is very sleek especially with pure blacks on SAMOLED screen. Very classy looking phone
- Build quality is great
- Gingerbread is great and only getting better with CM7. Nothing is beating the NS benchmark wise.
The Nexus S makes perfect sense to me. The only thing lacking is a car dock and desktop dock. 4G would have been nice but we don't get it in my area anyway. NS is pretty much the perfect phone for me right now.
Let's not get all dual core crazy until we see their real life performance running froyo (because that is what they will be released with).
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the N1. I just like the NS more.
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^ What this guy said. Plus the nexus s is not flimsy. I also own the nexus one and I can see the quality of build in both, even if one is aluminium and one is plastic. The nexus s is fantastic and the *best* android phone I have ever used, and I have owned plenty, including the dhd. Everything just works, and it's one of the first times on an android phone where a custom rom is really not required - there is enough space for a crap load of apps and music, and gaming on it is fantastic. Nothing is out of bounds on the nexus s.

for me the selection was simple
I wanted a SAMOLED phone that works in 1700+2100
with at least 1 Ghz stock CPU and 16 GB RAM, with GPS, and all the xtra toys and wishes it can pack inside this nice an think wafer
the only unfortunate thing is missing the external SD support

unremarked said:
Because I wanted it.
No offense, mate, neither I nor anyone else need to justify my/our purchases to you/anyone else.
EDIT: This is also thread #14831948135971 on Nexus S vs Other Phones.
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Agreed
Ugh really getting tired of these thread, my fault for even reading them though.

Initial Impressions of Compare my Captiviate vs buddies Atrix

Thought you all might find this interesting. My buddy got his Atrix yesterday and I got to play with it this morning and compare to my Captivate running FireFly 2.1 rom. Initial impressions are frankly not impressed. I think my screen is brighter and pretier. The resolution seems to be higher on the Atrix, which is great, but the fonts are hard to read and buttons much harder to press then on my captivate which has same screen size. My phone seems to be generally snappier and when I ran NeoCore on both phones the Cappy beat the Atrix by 2 FPS or more every time. Not too impressed with duel core or perhaps the phone just needs an XDA hacked rom to fix it. Anyway, didn't love it to be honest which was a surprise to me. Love my Captivate even with the few issues it has. Just my thoughts and initial impressions.

I got my GF the Atrix to replace her N1, played with it all day yesterday. I liked it.
I think I could be perfectly happy with this screen.......... if I had never seen an amoled before.
The resolution is great. Very sharp. Text looks awesome.
Its a tough call. Images look sharper on the Atrix, but the color/blacks is better on the Captivate. Both phones set to 1/2 brightness, and the Atrix just has that LCD backlight washout look. But its not bad, its slight. Way better than an Evo for example. (or my galaxy tab)
I'm looking at both side by side, and I can't decide. One is sharper, but one has better looking color/black levels. I guess it will have to come down to preference. I'm really torn. And I will admit I'm an amoled fanboy.
The speed is much better on the Atrix. (I have the latest paragon ROM on my cap) I tried some webpages that the captivate would choke on, and the Atrix was fine. Also moving around the market, installing apps, much quicker. And never any lag anywhere. Doing a Titanium restore was *much* faster than I've ever seen on the N1 or SGS.
If you bench with Quadrant or Linpak, it destroys the cap.
Here is a crude photo of the screens side by side, you can see some subtle differences, but to really compare you have to see in person.
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Wow, Boosted, that is interesting. Wonder if the diference is the different roms we are running. My Cappy running FireFly 2.1 was very obviously faster to me moving around the phone and in the market. My friends Atrix right out of the box was visibly slower. Even found it laggy when moving from portrait to lanscape. Anyway, thanks and always neet to hear others impressions.

Houndog said:
Thought you all might find this interesting. My buddy got his Atrix yesterday and I got to play with it this morning and compare to my Captivate running FireFly 2.1 rom. Initial impressions are frankly not impressed. I think my screen is brighter and pretier. The resolution seems to be higher on the Atrix, which is great, but the fonts are hard to read and buttons much harder to press then on my captivate which has same screen size. My phone seems to be generally snappier and when I ran NeoCore on both phones the Cappy beat the Atrix by 2 FPS or more every time. Not too impressed with duel core or perhaps the phone just needs an XDA hacked rom to fix it. Anyway, didn't love it to be honest which was a surprise to me. Love my Captivate even with the few issues it has. Just my thoughts and initial impressions.
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Do another test when 2.4 rolls out. That is when true dual core support rolls out for Android. I'm willing to guess then you will actually see a boost.

Houndog said:
Wow, Boosted, that is interesting. Wonder if the diference is the different roms we are running. My Cappy running FireFly 2.1 was very obviously faster to me moving around the phone and in the market. My friends Atrix right out of the box was visibly slower. Even found it laggy when moving from portrait to lanscape. Anyway, thanks and always neet to hear others impressions.
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I will honestly say it went back and forth. Somtimes the Atrix would be quicker, sometimes my Cap. But one thing I did notice for sure, was the web page scrolling, the app installing, and the Titanium restore was much faster on the Atrix. (and the bench numbers, but they are meaningless I spose)
As far as my overall impression... I still have my Cap. And I'm a sucker for getting phones on release day. I think playing with it for a day was enough for me, I'm going to wait and see how things play out with the Atrix getting updates, and the SGS2 coming.
My non-techie GF does however like it, seems to be a good upgrade from her N1.

I'm a photographer and looking at the pics above I'd say the Cappy is better. The Atrix has slightly better color rendition, but the Cappy's shadow detail is much better. Look at the car's front grille and the dark area in the trees to the left. Look at the front wheel. On the Atrix it is almost all one color, but on the Cappy you can see some more definition. Better shadow detail means better pictures in lower light and more crispness overall, areas where many cameras fall short. Can't speak to performance, but on picture quality alone I would take the Cappy. Of course, what you see on the phone's screen could be completely different than what you see after you transfer the pic to a computer, but if something like watching a movie on the device is important, the phone that better renders pics will also look better with movies.

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I'm a photographer and looking at the pics above I'd say the Cappy is better. The Atrix has slightly better color rendition, but the Cappy's shadow detail is much better. Look at the car's front grille and the dark area in the trees to the left. Look at the front wheel. On the Atrix it is almost all one color, but on the Cappy you can see some more definition. Better shadow detail means better pictures in lower light and more crispness overall, areas where many cameras fall short. Can't speak to performance, but on picture quality alone I would take the Cappy. Of course, what you see on the phone's screen could be completely different than what you see after you transfer the pic to a computer, but if something like watching a movie on the device is important, the phone that better renders pics will also look better with movies.
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I am by no means a photographer, but I can see what your pointing out. Also for info, the pic on the phones was shot with my Nikon D80 w/Nikon lens, and the pic of the phones was shot with the same cam/lens.
Also forgot to mention I have a couple of the 720p Samsung movies that came on the vibrant (or epic or something) just like showcase vids. Played one on both phones, and the cap was the *clear* winner. If I think about it, I'll do it again tonight, and take some pics of that, the difference is *much* greater than my car photo.

Another thing to look at is the bright areas. On the Atrix they are just blobs, but the Cappy still shows some detail. Look at the bright hedges to the left and right of the light pole. Very little detail in the Atrix ones. The detail of the bricks is also clearly better on the Cappy.

So to the OP or anyone that also had hands on with the device, I am assuming that the Atrix, to you, is not worth the off-contract price and/or renewing your contract for 2 more years? Just need your opinion

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So to the OP or anyone that also had hands on with the device, I am assuming that the Atrix, to you, is not worth the off-contract price and/or renewing your contract for 2 more years? Just need your opinion
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It's not that cut and dry, I think the Atrix has it's purpose and performs very well at it.

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It's not that cut and dry, I think the Atrix has it's purpose and performs very well at it.
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Sorry, but it was to me after a couple of days with the Inspire. Yes I returned it.
Just wasn't worth the 2 year upgrade for that phone and definitely not worth the no-contract price.
Edit: But I probably won't get the Atrix either because I don't want to do it all over again with the buying and returning, just wanted some opinions. But I can wait til the 3rd or 4th quarter of new phones.

Xstop said:
Sorry, but it was to me after a couple of days with the Inspire. Yes I returned it.
Just wasn't worth the 2 year upgrade for that phone and definitely not worth the no-contract price.
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I haven't seen an Inspire in person, but on paper it would be awesome if it had come out a year ago. I would imagine the Atrix would be better in every single way. I would rather have my Cap than the Inspire.

I have to tell you that I thought this might be my next phone, but initial impression was not better than what I have now with the Cappy for sure. Maybe a future update will fix the speed and make it much faster. Funny, my buddy with Atrix just walked in the room while I was typing this and he is struggling to read the screen. I noticed that with the resolution being higher that the words and icons appeared smaller myself. He is an older gentleman and having trouble reading the screen. Have to admit that I think I would be struggling as well. Does anyone know how to increase the fonts overall on an android phone? His is not rooted yet of course.

Awww weak, I was planning on getting this phone but it looks like qdisplay or w/e it's called isn't for me. Guess I'll wait for SGS 2

2011 is a sucky year for smartphones, even though it's the most hyped I've seen in a while.

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Does anyone know how to increase the fonts overall on an android phone? His is not rooted yet of course.
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I haven't messed with this myself, but I've seen a lot of guys with the Galaxy tabs playing around with it, you can at least give it a shot.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/change-android-screen-resolution-with-lcd-density/

Wow, thanks Boosted. I will tell him about this. This does require root though. I was hoping for a solution that woudn't require root.

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Wow, thanks Boosted. I will tell him about this. This does require root though. I was hoping for a solution that woudn't require root.
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Rooting the Atrix is super easy, only takes a couple of minutes. One click pretty much. I might even give this a try on my Galaxy tab for giggles..

Interesting write-ups and thanks for the information. I was impressed when I saw the Atrix on paper but haven't made it into the store to mess around with one. I love the screen on my cappy and it will be hard for me to migrate away from it. Once I finally got the ROM setup where I wanted it, I do like this phone. I am however, anxiously awaiting whats down the road this year.

Regarding the photo of the screens...
Think about it: a photo of an SAMOLED screen displayed on a computer's LCD display is not going to be of any use. By viewing the photo on LCD you're immediately eliminating 99% of the stuff that makes OLED stand out.
It's pretty useless to judge an SAMOLED screen (or a SAMOLED-vs-LCD comparison) via an image on a computer as a result.

[Q] Do all men wear purses?

It seems that HTC and Samsung have concluded that all men wear purses. How else can you explain the 135x70mm screen monstrosities on their phones? No one in their right mind would stick something of that size in their pocket, unless they want to impress the ladies (is that a phone in your pocket or are you happy to see me? And it is uncomfortable to handle with one hand.
As much as I hate Apple for their insistence of dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator, you have to give them credit for standing their ground and sticking with sub-120mm screen sizes. IMO this is the max tolerable in a phone, even the Lumia is somewhat too big. Size is the main reason I went with an HTC Aria two years ago, and I never regretted the decision.
I like the idea of Android, my life revolves around Google so having the tight integration of gmail and everything else is very important to me, Sense is oh so nice, and living without Swype and Tasker is going to be painful. Basic parameters I am looking for, in order of importance
AT&T, don't have any flexibility there
Icecream-capable, via custom ROM if necessary
sub-120mm screen (height) is very strongly preferred
good battery life is important
good voice quality is important, this is my main complaint about the Aria
good GPS antenna is desirable but not mandatory
removable battery and micro-SD capability are nice to have
don't care about 4G
don't care about screen resolution, I mostly read text on my phone
don't care about the camera
Does that describe a null set? Before I plunk down $200 for an iPhone 4S please save me from myself and tell me that there is a way.

Blame evolution.
Pants makers everywhere are forgetting how big the pocket should be.
People hands are getting bigger. I myself have hotdog fingers.
Let's also not forget that purses seem to get bigger as well. Last time I checked my friends keep making fun of my girlfriend "luggage" she carries around.

I have very big hands and i wear it in my jeans. Slightly noticeable. So i don't worry for that. That's why they provide many different kind of size. Pick one up and be happy

I have small hands and can't handle anything bigger than 4.3" screen size (converts to roughly 109mm, but that's not counting the chassis). Of the latest "superphones" I can only hold the iPhone 4S and the HTC Rezound. However, I am really glad verizon is releasing a One S variant at a 4" (102mm) screen size called the Incredible 4G LTE. That will probably end up being my next phone.
At this rate the Galaxy S6 will look identical to the Galaxy Tab 7.
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By far the best device coming out in the near future is the Asus Padfone. I highly recommend looking it up on Youtube.

Its there an at&t Motorola equivalent to the droid x? 127mm overall height on my vzw version.

I have a Motorola Bravo, which I feel is a highly underrated phone. It's super cheap on pay as you go, and quite small. Virtually the entire front of the phone is taken up by the 3.7" screen, so there's no wasted space.
I will never understand why manufacturers insist on churning out phones with gigantic bezels. If you need the extra space, then stop trying to turn out devices one micron thick.

Parcae said:
If you need the extra space, then stop trying to turn out devices one micron thick.
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Agree... to me the much more critical dimension is the height and width. I will take a 120x60x12mm device over 135x75x7mm any time of day.
On the topic of the original question... after doing some digging I have discovered that
a) Google contacts will now sync transparently with iOS
b) Gmail will push to iOS
c) Google Voice and Google Places are decent
d) Google Reader is a passable approximation of a dedicated reader on iOS
f) and most importantly, there is a version of Swype. You have to jailbreak, and the current rev is kind of limited and rough, but at least it exists.
Seems like my days with Android are limited. My wife's old 3GS is now in my pocket, will be there for a few weeks to see how I like it, but from everything I am seeing it gives me most of what I need with a decent sized screen.

They're not purses they're satchels
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Hey op, this site may be more your cup of tea: http://onetinyhand.com/
Maybe you should also buy pants with decent sized pockets.
This is without doubt the worst add for apple devices I have heard. Ever.
It's not like there are not any compact android, BB or Wp7 devices out there.
Tiny hand Kim Jong-il salutes you.
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I have a Note and it fits very well in my pants, thank you. Obviously you're not used to large things in your pants...
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Zamboney said:
I have a Note and it fits very well in my pants, thank you. Obviously you're not used to large things in your pants...
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Now now, let's be civil here.

sreza said:
Now now, let's be civil here.
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I believe the OP started it by making generic statements that are obviously false. It might not fit his Spandex pants without pockets but they fit well in most normal ones.
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Zamboney said:
I believe the OP started it by making generic statements that are obviously false. It might not fit his Spandex pants without pockets but they fit well in most normal ones.
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I don't think the OP made this thread with the thought of starting something in the first place.

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
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LogisticsXLS said:
I don't think the OP made this thread with the thought of starting something in the first place.
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[Sarcasm]No it was a well thought out factual reason that apple is superior to android/everyone else. All other phones are too big for the ops tiny hands and extra small pockets. And that's fair enough. [/sarcasm]
However if he knew how to use Google he would find that android phones and even blackberry phones come in all sizes. So attributing saviour status to apple is rather erronious and therfore this thread is nothing but misinformation and drivel as you would expect from a sterotypical Apple fan.
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hungry81 said:
It's not like there are not any compact android, BB or Wp7 devices out there.
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What I asked for:
a) AT&T
b) Android
c) 4.0 compatible, either out of the box or via custom ROM
d) <120mm chassis size
If you care to point me to a solution I will gladly consider it.
So attributing saviour status to apple is rather erronious and therfore this thread is nothing but misinformation and drivel as you would expect from a sterotypical Apple fan.
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Maybe you should learn to read (and spell) because the "drivel" is coming from you . How exactly does "As much as I hate Apple for their insistence of dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator" constitute Apple fandom. Seems that you are the mindless Android fanboi.
Moderator, I am sure that my latest comment violates some board guideline. Feel free to delete this post and close this thread. Obviously I am not going to get any useful information here.

Zamboney said:
Obviously you're not used to large things in your pants...
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The large things are already there, so there is no need to compensate with a phone... It seems that you need some help in that department.

GroovyGeek said:
It seems that HTC and Samsung have concluded that all men wear purses. How else can you explain the 135x70mm screen monstrosities on their phones? No one in their right mind would stick something of that size in their pocket, unless they want to impress the ladies (is that a phone in your pocket or are you happy to see me? And it is uncomfortable to handle with one hand.
As much as I hate Apple for their insistence of dumbing down everything to the lowest common denominator, you have to give them credit for standing their ground and sticking with sub-120mm screen sizes. IMO this is the max tolerable in a phone, even the Lumia is somewhat too big. Size is the main reason I went with an HTC Aria two years ago, and I never regretted the decision.
I like the idea of Android, my life revolves around Google so having the tight integration of gmail and everything else is very important to me, Sense is oh so nice, and living without Swype and Tasker is going to be painful. Basic parameters I am looking for, in order of importance
AT&T, don't have any flexibility there
Icecream-capable, via custom ROM if necessary
sub-120mm screen (height) is very strongly preferred
good battery life is important
good voice quality is important, this is my main complaint about the Aria
good GPS antenna is desirable but not mandatory
removable battery and micro-SD capability are nice to have
don't care about 4G
don't care about screen resolution, I mostly read text on my phone
don't care about the camera
Does that describe a null set? Before I plunk down $200 for an iPhone 4S please save me from myself and tell me that there is a way.
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Put the phone in the breast pocket of your suit coat. They can easily accommodate a 135x70mm phone. Don't carry a purse. It will send the wrong signal. Think about it, nice suite VS a purse. Not a hard decision.
Watch this and enjoy.

GroovyGeek said:
What I asked for:
a) AT&T
b) Android
c) 4.0 compatible, either out of the box or via custom ROM
d) <120mm chassis size
If you care to point me to a solution I will gladly consider it.
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Asus Padfone. Fits all requirements, and still better than everything else on the market.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTc3gn7jBE
Can we let the posturing die please?

[Q] What Android Phone should I buy?

Hey, my family is insisting they buy me an smart phone for my 21st Birthday.
So they're asking me which one do I want. I'd rather have something like a Router, or NAS, but they are insisting on getting me a phone or a camera. Since my Current phone is a pretty old Nokia phone. I have a desktop which i use most of the day.
I think the budget would be close to 400$. We will not be using a contract phone. They are considering the
iPhone4(S) [Used] (I was thinking of stepping out of iOS and using An Android Phone since most of the users are iOS in my house),
Sony Ericsson Xperia S (I heard the battery timing is low) (not much of resale value here)
Galaxy S2 (A bit of an older series)
Galaxy Note ( A bit more expensive)
Wont be using 3G / 4G much except for when travelling. Need good battery timing, even with WLAN enabled. Something with a good camera, touch focus, flash etc.
I am a heavy Computer user, texter, browse a lot of forums, like linux, WEP cracking etc.
Any suggestions? Most of these models are at least 8 Months old. The S3 is a bit overpriced and not as good as the HTC One X

xperia arc s

Get the Galaxy Note, its the best dam phone out there! (ok so yes its the phone i have but still )
And if you love linux even better, it works very well with my linuxonandroid project
But if the huge screen frightens you get for the love of god get anything other than a iphone

monstercable said:
xperia arc s
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Better than a S2? battery timing?
zacthespack said:
Get the Galaxy Note, its the best dam phone out there! (ok so yes its the phone i have but still )
And if you love linux even better, it works very well with my linuxonandroid project
But if the huge screen frightens you get for the love of god get anything other than a iphone
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Is the note faster than the S2? And I like huge screens, wont be carrying it around much maybe. Will use it as a secondary phone. Does the S2 work with the linuxandroid project?

ryandigweed said:
Better than a S2? battery timing?
Is the note faster than the S2? And I like huge screens, wont be carrying it around much maybe. Will use it as a secondary phone. Does the S2 work with the linuxandroid project?
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Yes the S2 works well to, between the two devices the hardware is pretty much the same.
The differences are, Galaxy Note has the 5.2 inch screen and a bigger battery to make sure that beast of screen has enough power. Oh and the spen which is pretty call but I dont use it much.

It depends on which price you would let them extend too~ Huawei have great spec devices for a lot lower prices, worth a look.

zacthespack said:
Yes the S2 works well to, between the two devices the hardware is pretty much the same.
The differences are, Galaxy Note has the 5.2 inch screen and a bigger battery to make sure that beast of screen has enough power. Oh and the spen which is pretty call but I dont use it much.
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Thanks for all that info, you're making me think of getting the note
H3aRt_L3sS said:
It depends on which price you would let them extend too~ Huawei have great spec devices for a lot lower prices, worth a look.
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Any good models that come to mind? I thought Huawei is poor quality. Can extend the budget , and there are used mobiles that would come in that much.

I would look for something from HTC.
Dont scream at me - samsung is very slippery (both galaxy s and s2) and doesn't appeal to me with build quality. I know, they are quite sturdy, just they look plastic.

renw0rp said:
I would look for something from HTC.
Dont scream at me - samsung is very slippery (both galaxy s and s2) and doesn't appeal to me with build quality. I know, they are quite sturdy, just they look plastic.
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I like HTC as well, but which model? They're slightly more expensive as compared to samsung, with lower specs and great build quality.
Yeah their Cases got that plastic-y look to them. Especially the behind cover.
I will be using a a case on whatever phone im using. my hands get sweatyy
Also, i would like to say, this phone is going to be with me long longggg longgg time 5 years? (if it lasts hopefully) and so i want a phone with gorilla glass, or a strong front panel ..

Might want to consider the galaxy nexus. Pure vanilla and timely updates, as well as a large hacking community.
5mp camera is its specs, but I heard its quite good. Remember, no matter how many mp a camera is, it all comes down to the lenses
All for $350 new unlocked off google play
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gagdude said:
Might want to consider the galaxy nexus. Pure vanilla and timely updates, as well as a large hacking community.
5mp camera is its specs, but I heard its quite good. Remember, no matter how many mp a camera is, it all comes down to the lenses
All for $350 new unlocked off google play
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Thanks for the info, yeah it depends on the lens and the sensor, i've been a major fan of the nexus, since the start. Some say there's a noticeable performance of the galaxy s2 over the galaxy nexus.
Almost double the battery and a bit bigger screen with higher ppi Faster than the S2 according to this:
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According to this, the camera is better too! ..
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/
Omg, Thanks a lot for reminding me of the nexus, is the battery removable? Im just kinda bummed about the lack of additional storage..
THe screen drop test scares the **** out of me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyMBC5R_oEU

I recently got a Galaxy S3 with ATT. It's been pretty solid so far, especially after rooting and some tweaking. A large phablet like the Note would be nice, but the Snapdragon S3 it uses turns me off.
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ryandigweed said:
Thanks for the info, yeah it depends on the lens and the sensor, i've been a major fan of the nexus, since the start. Some say there's a noticeable performance of the galaxy s2 over the galaxy nexus.
Almost double the battery and a bit bigger screen with higher ppi Faster than the S2 according to this:
According to this, the camera is better too! ..
http://hemorrdroids.net/samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-camera-test/
Omg, Thanks a lot for reminding me of the nexus, is the battery removable? Im just kinda bummed about the lack of additional storage..
THe screen drop test scares the **** out of me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyMBC5R_oEU
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Battery is removable but yeah, no SD. Bugs me too. I haven't checked to drop tests, ill edit my post in a few min when I do.
Also, I never knew the camera is actually better than the S2's thanks for that link!
EDIT: like they said, its only gonna break if its facedown. But its completely destroyed when it is. Lcd and digitizer but I think a high quality screen protector will solve the problem, if u don't mind having screen protectors that is
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ryandigweed said:
Hey, my family is insisting they buy me an smart phone for my 21st Birthday.
So they're asking me which one do I want. I'd rather have something like a Router, or NAS, but they are insisting on getting me a phone or a camera. Since my Current phone is a pretty old Nokia phone. I have a desktop which i use most of the day.
I think the budget would be close to 400$. We will not be using a contract phone. They are considering the
iPhone4(S) [Used] (I was thinking of stepping out of iOS and using An Android Phone since most of the users are iOS in my house),
Sony Ericsson Xperia S (I heard the battery timing is low) (not much of resale value here)
Galaxy S2 (A bit of an older series)
Galaxy Note ( A bit more expensive)
Wont be using 3G / 4G much except for when travelling. Need good battery timing, even with WLAN enabled. Something with a good camera, touch focus, flash etc.
I am a heavy Computer user, texter, browse a lot of forums, like linux, WEP cracking etc.
Any suggestions? Most of these models are at least 8 Months old. The S3 is a bit overpriced and not as good as the HTC One X
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i suggest you get the Galaxy Nexus if you like to have updated OS all the time....

from that list i would go with the galaxy note

I disliked the part of the 16GB limited storage on the nexus, so i went with the note !.. anyone got a tut to install ICS or JB? ? Im on GB dont know if its rooted or not.. :S
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Checked it with root checker. its Still not rooted.. And i've got no memory card, any pointers to how im supposed to Root it with ICS?

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I disliked the part of the 16GB limited storage on the nexus, so i went with the note !.. anyone got a tut to install ICS or JB? ? Im on GB dont know if its rooted or not.. :S
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Checked it with root checker. its Still not rooted.. And i've got no memory card, any pointers to how im supposed to Root it with ICS?
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The note sub forum is your friend, plenty of guides to do everything under the sun http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1346

I would say either go for something like the HTC One S or the Galaxy Nexus GSM

I'm in a similar situation. I'm between the Nexus and Note- made this thread about the topic. Most are suggesting the Nexus. IMO, I think the Note is the best in your list and the Nexus, if you can afford it, should be considered. The problem is that you may have a different opinion than the guys on here so I would suggest trying the phones out in a local shop before you buy them.

My next phone will be a Galaxy SIII, really loved this phone and all its properties!

Why is the One S underestimated??

Guys I have seen lots of reviews of our phone.I own it for two months and I am very pleased with it.In fact in most reviews is faster than other premium phones and except for the screen resolution in terms of characteristics is great.Also its size is great and all these made me choose it between hox and gs3.In fact I had it side by side with hox and in swapping hox fealt heavy and laggy compared to hos.S4 is really great.But, it is not considered to be top range and has lost value pretty easily.Its retail price is close to the others but it is considered cheaper.These facts had made me to reconsider my buy and thinking of changing device.What you guys think?
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Guys I have seen lots of reviews of our phone.I own it for two months and I am very pleased with it.In fact in most reviews is faster than other premium phones and except for the screen resolution in terms of characteristics is great.Also its size is great and all these made me choose it between hox and gs3.In fact I had it side by side with hox and in swapping hox fealt heavy and laggy compared to hos.S4 is really great.But, it is not considered to be top range and has lost value pretty easily.Its retail price is close to the others but it is considered cheaper.These facts had made me to reconsider my buy and thinking of changing device.What you guys think?
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You only want a new phone because your old one lost value, although you consider your phone better then the higher priced ones? What I think is that you are a moron, lolz.

Are you happy with it? Don´t change it...

I dont think its better, but I think its equal .But I don't understand why it is so underestimated...That's all
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Get the s3 its way better
Best battery life 6-7hrs screen time
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Most probably it's because it has flaws, that are unacceptable in a top-notch high end device?
Like the premium extra-durable cover, that needs to be handled with extra care, and it still does not guarantee, that there will be no chipping?
Or the light leaks below the front glass?
Or the squeaking top cover?
Or the ridiculously small storage capacity?
Or the far from perfect video support (I need to have two extra players installed, and I still am not sure if the movie I have just downloaded will play or not)?
The only reason I am still keeping it is the perfect form factor, but every time I notice a new scratch, that appears out from nowhere, I just want to get rid of this expensive piece of crap.

Thats y u need to root. I have the rom i ported from HTC ONE S with new kernel..runs just as fast, obviously rooted, overclocked, v6 supercharged and swap enabled minus bloat...u should stay with it. Root it and get the energized from NRGZ8..themed and tweaks..He is one of the best developers
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Look at it from a customers point of view, who aren't phone/tech geeks like us. Lets say 60/70% did some homework ad looked around. They decided on andriod over ios. They seen whats on the market and might even watched some youtube clips.
What most people will likely see:
Quadcore > Dualcore (Most people wont know what or S4 can do)
Bigger screen > better form factor. I think most people won't take the time to pick the phone up and hold it. and see how it feels in their hands.
And the one S got a pretty crappy screen regarding resolution/density.
This plus the fact our phone is just about 100 euro's? cheaper than the one X or SIII which excel in all these points.
Most people wont see the elegance of this device. You have to stand still and hold it will you fall in love with the seize, form factor, build quality and design of this device. And I think most wont/will do this when they walk in the phone store, because there are so many choices.
And this is if they disregarded htc completely because their friend, bother, uncle had a htc once and they didn't like that one.

Diaze said:
Get the s3 its way better
Best battery life 6-7hrs screen time
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What a load of BS
I have yet to see anyone get 6-7 hours on screen time on the GS 3 from one charge out of the box (unless you're someone who keeps airplane mode on, screen brightness to like 0% etc.). Going by proper usage as in wifi on all the time or 3G/H data and auto brightness with some browsing, phone calls/texts, quick game, some videos etc. the one S battery life is better, (maybe not by much) due to the S4 chip and smaller screen with a lower res. At best the GS 3 seems to get about 5 hours on screen time and at best the one S gets 6 hours on screen time, however, the majority of people seem to be getting only about 3-4 hours on screen time spread across a 1-2 days with the GS 3 where as the majority of people are getting 4-5 hours on screen time spread across 1-3 days.
Also the only areas where the GS 3 is better by a lot are:
- screen in terms of res. and size
- storage
- 1080P recording
- NFC
- NLED
The S is better in:
- IMO sense largely the camera overall, way more features, much better UI (camera quality is more or less the same, wins some, looses some), gallery, calendar app etc. only good thing about touchwiz are the tweaks/features like smart stay, smart status bar, which can be had on pretty much every mobile now through apps
- build and perceived quality and IMO looks
- better CPU for performance per core (more important than having an extra 2 cores as hardly any apps utilise dual fully let alone quad), power efficiency, heat
- cheaper
Everything else is more or less the same, audio, camera quality etc.
The words, which you should be using is a more "complete package"
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Most probably it's because it has flaws, that are unacceptable in a top-notch high end device?
Like the premium extra-durable cover, that needs to be handled with extra care, and it still does not guarantee, that there will be no chipping?
Or the light leaks below the front glass?
Or the squeaking top cover?
Or the ridiculously small storage capacity?
Or the far from perfect video support (I need to have to extra players installed, and I still am not sure if the movie I have just downloaded will play or not)?
The only reason I am still keeping it is the perfect form factor, but every time I notice a new scratch, that appears out from nowhere, I just want to get rid of this expensive piece of crap.
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Have had my one S since April and have no chipping at all apart from the inside of the USB port, not exactly the most careful either, I just keep it in a pocket of its own, set it down on a clean surface, I only use a case every now and again.
Is that really an issue? I only notice it in pitch black whenever I have a black wallpaper showing. Besides the buttons are far better than the GS 3 buttons especially since the Gs3 has a hard home button, which just ruins the look of the front and better than many other devices IMO, only way it can be topped is with on screen buttons like the GN). Oh and btw so does the GS 3 and a lot of other phones:
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PB model isn't as bad but it still does as well.
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Oh wait you mean, the way the light actually goes on to the bottom of the screen? Again is that really an issue? As I said, only time I notice it is in pitch black with a completely black wallpaper. You will also probably notice black spots on the screen with a black wallpaper but again, this is normal on every AMOLED based screen.
Have had no problems with squeaking on mine. Even if there was a problem, it still has far better build quality than any other phone and the ceramic back would make up for it IMO.
Storage is a problem for a lot of people, however, if it is, then the people just won't bother looking at this phone then and get the GS 3 or something with an SD slot, I have no problems with mine, over 80 apps installed, this includes a number of games including games like dead trigger and I still have 1.53GB available, I have 876 photos including 1080P/slow motion videos, loads of emulator ROM files, wallpapers/icons etc. and I still have 4.81GB left, could easily free up the majority of that space as all my photos are backed up each day to my PC and I imagine that "average joes" wouldn't be overly fussed about it either. After all the Galaxy nexus etc. have no SD slots and limited storage yet they do very well still, just not as well as the like of the GS 3 and GS 2 etc. For me and a lot of other people storage isn't a problem therefore we don't really consider it a con for ourselves.
What problems are there with video support, any file I have thrown at it plays flawlessly on BS player, this includes 720/1080P MKV's (size is 10GB+, split up into parts), AVI, MP4 etc.
Vauix said:
Bigger screen > better form factor. I think most people won't take the time to pick the phone up and hold it. and see how it feels in their hands.
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Not really true, why do you think the iphone 4/4s is so popular Many "average joes" can't stand the size of a lot of these phones today or the plastic used and is why they largely go for the iphone as it is small and feels great and looks great (not keen on the looks myself but I can see why people like it so much) They even consider the one S and GS 2 to be too big
It is simply due to the lack of advertising, I still have not seen one ad on TV for the one S, always the one X and have lost count of how many ads there have been for the GS 3 now......... and HTC don't seem to be too popular here (UK), a lot of people look down on them, even the majority of average joes seem to think that they are an awful company, no idea why though, granted their support isn't the best when it comes to sending mobiles of for repair etc. and some of their phones have been rather crap but the one S and one X (now that the issues have been sorted out) are their best phones they have released to date and sense V4 is much better than previous versions.
The only real problem that people (the ones who know know a bit more about phones than the average joes) have with the one S is:
- storage
- pentile matrix used instead of RGB
I don't really have any problem with those, the pentile is noticeable in some areas, however, I only notice it when I concentrate on the edges of icons and have my face really close to the screen, the rest of the screen is great, colours, viewing angles, blacks and best of all, how easy it is to see the screen in sunlight, don't have to be above 70% brightness to easily make out what is on the screen, no need to cover the screen with your hand etc. Plus apparently pentile matrix is better for battery life and so I personally rather have it due to that reason.
Anandtech sum my views up pretty much spot on regarding the screen quality:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
PS sorry for the wall of text

I'm ready to go back to my S2. Scratches appear out of no where. I have never used a screen protector on any of my phones and never got a single scratch. This phone is great but now my screen has scratches and its bothering so bad.
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Mine has some drops and dont even one scratch anywhere
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Get an iphone, it still has it's value here retailing for €749 xD
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I came from a GS2 to One S (S4) - but only for a week. Reasons are, the OLED display is not good enough for me, sorry but it is not up to much in terms of resolution and light output. The black case chips on its own, it seems. I've had and sold several smartphones over the recent years and NEVER had any marks on the case or screen. I'm careful but not anal about it. This phone just made me weep! Finally, the so-called notification LED is a freakin sick joke. Pointless engineering faux-pas.
Now happy with my Sony XS...

Here are the reasons that tipped my clicker finger to buy the One S...
T-Mobile now has unlimited data and that's switchable between 5G
The One S has 42 Mbps (so does the Samsung S2/3)
Those 2 above provide backed up data at an avg of 18 Mbps in my house. So, AT&T's LTE was eliminated.
One S is a better device for my needs... size and interface
One S has a very bright display that's easier to read
That's only a few. The S3 is a nice plastic phone with a lot of stuff.
The stuff I need and the functionality of using it is on the One S.

I debated long and hard and did a lot of research on the One S and the SIII before buying and finally decided on the One S. Couldn't be happier with my decision. The quality and performance of the One S is great. The SIII feels cheap and is so hyped up. I get 6 hours screen on time overclocked at 1.72GHhz and score over 6000 on quadrent. I also like that I can choose between sense and pure android.

My gf got the S3 and I got the one S, I'm happy with my choice.
The S3 was too big for my liking and had TouchWiz. I also thought the One S would have better ROM options once I decide to root the phone.
Either way I ended up with a nice upgrade from my MT4G
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