High-end computers are going to be required to compile the ICS source code! This is crazy, and I'm sure it will halt development for quite a bit.
Check out this article! - http://tabletroms.com/index.php/2011/10/23/getting-ready-to-build-ics-from-android-source-code-heavy-duty-machines-required/
This can't be true.....
cdesai said:
This can't be true.....
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I'm hoping it isn't.
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am afraid so....check out the OFFICIAL information
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/3757b189f4e93df0?hl=en&pli=1
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"-6GB of download.
-25GB disk space to do a single build.
-80GB disk space to build all AOSP configs at the same time.
-16GB RAM recommended, more preferred, anything less will measurably
benefit from using an SSD.
-5+ hours of CPU time for a single build, 25+ minutes of wall time, as
measured on my workstation (dual-E5620 i.e. 2x quad-core 2.4GHz HT,
with 24GB of RAM, no SSD), "
That isn't bad at all. RAM is cheap and anybody with a socket 1155/1156/1366 could add 16GB total and meet the specs quite comfortably. An SSD will help, but then it always does!
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That isn't bad at all. RAM is cheap and anybody with a socket 1155/1156/1366 could add 16GB total and meet the specs quite comfortably. An SSD will help, but then it always does!
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Problem is it will stop a lot of younger devs as they can't afford a high end PC.
Mine is
4gb DDR3 ram
2.6quad core
2tb storage
Does everything I need uber fast but isn't good enough to compile ics how odd.
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iammodo said:
Problem is it will stop a lot of younger devs as they can't afford a high end PC.
Mine is
4gb DDR3 ram
2.6quad core
2tb storage
Does everything I need uber fast but isn't good enough to compile ics how odd.
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Which means we should start donating!
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iammodo said:
Problem is it will stop a lot of younger devs as they can't afford a high end PC.
Mine is
4gb DDR3 ram
2.6quad core
2tb storage
Does everything I need uber fast but isn't good enough to compile ics how odd.
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Actually every pc is enough to compile ICS(if storage is enough), it'll only take a lot longer to compile ICS on 4GB ram.
It's a pity, but it might be required to do lots of optimalizations or something.
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Hey, I was wondering if this phone will be able to run these emulators. I think it would be awesome to have halo on my phone.
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You're ignoring one important aspect; file sizes.
Spec-wise, I think most dual-core Droids can.
But, the both XBOX and PS2 use a DVD for their games, which means the game can easily exceed 2 Gigs.
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You're ignoring one important aspect; file sizes.
Spec-wise, I think most dual-core Droids can.
But, the both XBOX and PS2 use a DVD for their games, which means the game can easily exceed 2 Gigs.
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That's what 32gb SDCards are for
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Flippy125 said:
That's what 32gb SDCards are for
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Not really. Because you need a high speed SD Card to do the job.
(A Class10 can barely do the job)
Joshua3109 said:
Hey, I was wondering if this phone will be able to run these emulators. I think it would be awesome to have halo on my phone.
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Hardware yes
Software i think no/yes
This means our hardware is good enough but i think with Android an so on its not strong enough any more ;-)
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Not really. Because you need a high speed SD Card to do the job.
(A Class10 can barely do the job)
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If the app its well coded it won't matter what's what speed the SD card is it's not a disc that needs to keep scanning and reading.
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Hmm, so it seems that the only argument against second Gen emulators is the sd card speed. But is the hardware really powerful enough too handle it?
Also I read something about software, could the current android software really prevent an emulator off this nature from happening?
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I haven't checked in a while, but is there even an Xbox emulator on PCs? From what I remember, there was at most a halo port that could only play the first level. Poorly.
There is a good open source PS2 emulator though, so maybe we'll see it coming to Android eventually. If the hardware really can handle it.
All the negativity aside...
Has this phone become the perfect phone for everybody?
With Stock 2.3.3 working great with every feature, rooted stock roms, easy to flash any roms, has the g2x finally become the phone we always thought it would be?
There may be some people who always thought this was the best phone out but can we finally say it without a shadow of a doubt?
I may be biased but this is a pretty damn good phone.
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All it needs is 16-32gb internal storage and maybe 1gb of ram and it would have been future proof for a lonnnnnnnng time. Still it is a great phone just released too early.
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I agree on the ram part for sure....
I would have been set for a long time. The internal storage doesn't bother me so much with micro SD cards dropping in price. A 32GB card shouldn't be too expensive soon or now for that matter.
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Honestly I would have been ok too with the g2x had it not been for the partitioning of internal storage, it's confusing and not needed when most people already own 16 or 32gb external sdcards and prefer installing everything to internal.
For some people 1gb is more than enough for apps/games, but with the market allowing dev's to increase the size of its product 1gb of internal is not enough and gets used up very quickly!
Can't really complain about anything else cuz this phone is beast!
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This phone is so beast now with everything working. Weapon g2x 2.5 is by far the rom to be on.
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d12unk13astard said:
Honestly I would have been ok too with the g2x had it not been for the partitioning of internal storage, it's confusing and not needed when most people already own 16 or 32gb external sdcards and prefer installing everything to internal.
For some people 1gb is more than enough for apps/games, but with the market allowing dev's to increase the size of its product 1gb of internal is not enough and gets used up very quickly!
Can't really complain about anything else cuz this phone is beast!
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It comes standard with apps2sd. Most apps can be moved to sd so just do that and free up the 1gb internal. With apps2sd capability I think 1gb for apps is more than generous.
i loved this phone from the get-go but i received it with gingerbread pre-installed and tried to wait out a lot of the big bugs. my device has some noticeable screen bleed and a little bit of lagginess but other than that this phone is amazing! i don't miss my old phone at all. it is practically perfect to me
512MB of RAM is more than enough...
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Yeah this baby has been working pretty well for me...hopefully development for this continues on for a long time. The only gripe I have is battery life is a little on the short side...at least on the stock rom and nightly cm7 rom
Otherwise this phone does everything I need it to do and more
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it would be a good phone if it had a way to calibrate the g sensor.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
512MB of RAM is more than enough...
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+1 some people don't understand how Linux handles memory.
Vibrant+MIUI -> G2X
It's a great phone IF it's rooted or lucky enough to be bug free on stock. The general consumer might not be into rooting, and that bugged-launch debacle hit the phone's reputation hard. Also, I'm curious whether LG's failure to make some drivers open will be a big problem for devastating or just an annoyance (I'm not a dev, so I honestly don't know how big a problem it is).
Having said that, I think my rooted G2x is a great phone. Running Eagles Blood on it now, might switch to Weapons soon just for ****s and giggles. And might throw this Nexus S on eBay to go G2x full time.
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JettyLife said:
+1 some people don't understand how Linux handles memory.
Vibrant+MIUI -> G2X
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No, some people just like having as many apps or games installed as they prefer without running low on ram and lagging.
Not everyone is fine with just installing 5-10 apps, I and plenty others DO understand how Linux uses memory. Coming from the mt4g 768mb-1gb ram is the sweet spot IMHO.
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I love my phone.. Cm7 nightlies ftw
This phone has been awesome for the two month period I have owned it. It's fast, stable and I love the vanilla android experience! It's a shame the initial release was plagued with so many issues or more people would have a positive outlook on this phone.
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d12unk13astard said:
All it needs is 16-32gb internal storage and maybe 1gb of ram and it would have been future proof for a lonnnnnnnng time. Still it is a great phone just released too early.
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+1. 1gb RAM and this phone would've undoubtedly been THEE best phone in the market.
d12unk13astard said:
No, some people just like having as many apps or games installed as they prefer without running low on ram and lagging.
Not everyone is fine with just installing 5-10 apps, I and plenty others DO understand how Linux uses memory.
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Please explain how simply installing more apps on your phone uses more RAM (significantly more, not just because the launcher has to maintain a KB or two more data or something similar).
Because a lot of apps still run in the backround (even if your using a taskkiller, they will just turn back on thus consuming ram, and that's also just how linux uses it's ram) With me installing all apps/games i usually have around 50-60mb free ram which is still enough and i don't experience much lag if any, but i do plan on buying and installing more apps/games thus the reason 768-1gb ram is more preferable in the long run.
bjlefebvre said:
It's a great phone IF it's rooted or lucky enough to be bug free on stock.
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I don't know, mine wasn't rooted and worked just awesome. Smooth, no lag, no bugs. I've just recently rooted it, but no roms just yet. Still trying to decide which I want, lol. I haven't heard many bug reports since GB came out. But it is a shame the bad rep it got before. A friend of mine got it when it first came out...i've yet to convince him it's worth getting now. Gotta try to get him to actually test it out, lol.
What is the optimal amount of RAM a phone must have to run Ice Cream sandwhich efficently?
I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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Having used a Droid OG with 256mb of RAM on ICS, I can honestly say it sucks balls. There's virtually no multitasking, everything closes.
But 512mb seems to be good nonetheless. The HTC Aria with 384mb of RAM has a pretty good ICS ROM as well...
As long as its stock ICS, it doesn't require too much RAM at all. 512mb seems to be a good, solid amount however.
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DroidmanDan said:
I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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Optimus 2X is coming out with ICS soon (finally).
It has 384MB ram available, 128 goes to the GPU.
Will report back after it's out, but it should be fine.
Mungulz said:
Optimus 2X is coming out with ICS soon (finally).
It has 384MB ram available, 128 goes to the GPU.
Will report back after it's out, but it should be fine.
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That's 512, I think were talking about total RAM here.
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gagdude said:
That's 512, I think were talking about total RAM here.
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I know, but more attention to finer details never killed anyone
Plus it's worthwhile mentioning how much is restricted to GPU usage, some phones might use less, or more. So saying 512MB as a blanket statement isn't going to cover all phones.
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I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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You can say that again. My x8 is barely coping. 168mb of ram on a good day
Ics runs smooth on legeng with 300+ ram. Don't know the exact value.
Mororola mailstome had 512 mb of ram and this enought for ICS and JB.
While there is no official requirement (and there are ports to the G1 with a beefy 96mb of ram) its accepted that 512mb would be required to run it well
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i think that the requirement is approxymatly between 300 because my galaxy ace work very nice with 278 ram 4.04 :laugh:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Also a good thing is this
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/
Although it seems it's more so for the International version... and we will have to wait a bit longer... but still
The 64GB expanded storage is what hurts the most I think, though it's very possible there willl be a variant with less like our HOXL.
Stop making these threads!!!! We have 4-5 already!!!! Search!
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And this is the reason why I hate contracts.
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Yawn.... Not impressed
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CheesyNutz said:
Yawn.... Not impressed
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Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version
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Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version
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Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.
Yea. It seems to much like the Int. One x. And I'm just excited for some official jellybean. =D Can't wait to see how they pull it off, since the last official stock ROM was actually good this should he better with butter and what not!
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AJerman said:
Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.
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I my self love my current One-x phone but if i could have asked for anything different it would have been the storage space. I still havent filled up my current one-x but just knowing that the phone has plenty of space is a good comfort feeling. Ultimately this phone wouldnt make me jump to try and sell my current one, but it sure would have been nice to have more than 16 (12 useable) gigs of space.
The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.
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The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.
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Agree. During the $.25 sale i realized how little space we have on our phone! I ran out of space after buying FIFA, Mass effect and batman. I never thought i would run out of space on my phone but 14GB seems too little now.
32 would be ideal, 64 perfect.
I'm not a big fan of tegra 3 because of its battery consumption. I prefer cortex 15 based s4 which is very efficient.
The battery and rom is the only thing that i wish i had.
Dupe thread. Closed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916202
Just advising that once I build my new desktop I will start creating apps and ROMs.
The computer I am going to build will have:
2 1TB SATA hard drives
16GB RAM
I7 processor
High end video card (still researching)
4 Monitors
I will dual boot Linux and Windows 7
I am going all out as this will be my first computer I will build from the ground up and I want it to last.
Any input ( i.e comp specs and android dev material) greatly appreciated.
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ssd ... makes everything faster, especially if you're compiling from a 10gb android git repo
Cool. Thanks
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