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From Vision to Sensation: First thoughts.

Hey fellas. This is for people who are thinking about getting a sensation. If you don't care about this phone.. DON'T READ. Thanks.
Well I just got my sensation about an hour ago from walmart. I'm really digging this phone. The screen is huge, the colors are fantastic and its lighter. TOO light for my liking honestly. Feels like I'm holding a vibrant. I hate the fact its so light. It feels fake to me kinda. I love the way the g2 feels. Its not light, but its not chunky and heavy.
The build quality is pretty good. It feels FANTASTIC in the hand but I still don't like the lightassedness this phone has. I still prefer the battery door latch that our vision has but its not hard at all to get the back off.
Speed: not even going to lie. Its fast. Pretty damn fast. But compared to our vision is what you guys want to know. And having them side by side having the sensation obviously stock and my vision obviously not (oc'd to 1.2 gigs) I don't honestly see a difference.. at all. Probably after root gets here and a little oc hits this then we will see.
If anyone wants to know anything ie want me to run tests against it etc just let me know. Just for reassurance : THIS IS JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DEBATING ABOUT GETTING THIS PHONE AND WANTED TO KNOW SOMEONES OPINION. I love reading people's opinions on phones and I always come here to read people opinions on their experience with the phone I want. Just wanted to give back my opinion. Maybe it might help someone, maybe it won't.
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How much better is the screen compared to the vision? Does it feel a lil downgraded? Or is it Better In every aspect?
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Alex530 said:
How much better is the screen compared to the vision? Does it feel a lil downgraded? Or is it Better In every aspect?
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To me honestly I LOVE this screen. very nice and responsive (unlike my vision sometimes sadly) and the colors are better. i am a little biased sure (ive been waiting for a 4.3 inch screen for a while) but the big factor for me at least is that the pyramid is visible outside. i think its a really big step up.

How are data speeds? I know it's a 14.4 device, but a newer radio may be better optimized - also -how is the reception? Battery?
Have you had a chance to use HTC watch yet?
I have a G2 currently and love it, I really like the look of the Sensation though..

4G is insanely slow right now honestly. i think its because the device isnt even released by tmobile yet so im not making it a biggie right now. when its working though, its extremely quick, especially on wifi. and there is virtually no lag whatsoever anywhere especially when using the device. and it gets faster over time. havent used htc watch though yet im sorry. cant make any calls on the battery life. this is still my first run through of the battery.

Will keep a watch on this thread, I don't really have many questions just wanted to thank you for the review
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ACis0014 said:
Will keep a watch on this thread, I don't really have many questions just wanted to thank you for the review
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No problem. That's what im here for. But anyone with questions feel free to ask. i really want people to consider this device its really a great buy. Oh and for the 4g issue, made a quick edit to a setting and now its blazing fast.

Does it have the HTC sense keyboard or the gb keyboard?
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Alex530 said:
Does it have the HTC sense keyboard or the gb keyboard?
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Looks like it has the Sense keyboard to me. The gingerbread keyboard is black right?
I am also coming from a G2. I love this phone in every aspect. However, I do find myself switching back to the G2 every now and then simply because it has root and a trackpad for scrolling long articles. Thats probably the only thing I miss. A trackpad, never realized how much easier it made things. Would you all happen to know of an app that givesu a thumb scroll in every app like the music app has? I have no idea why htc, or google (whoever's fault it is) chose not to integrate this feature all around.

Well,not here to ask questions as I already bought the Galaxy S II(was between that and the Sensation),but I can tell you some things for sure.
Sometimes,you're gonna miss that extra RAM that HTC for some reason didn't give this phone.768mb on the Sensation with Sense 3 is as pure stupid as the good camera with no flash on the Galaxy S.Second is that,although the Adreno 220 is REALLY good and is bound to get even better with root and,obviously,overclocking,it isn't really the beast that'll handle the qHD screen with ease,especially when scrolling through screens.
For the rest,I still think that it's a hell of a good phone,just not quite the upgrade from my Desire HD.Not comparing or fanboyin' or anything(ALL my smartphones until now were HTC after all),but just HTC could have made it better.I kinda like the Evo 3D though...

I haven't seen any lag on the sensation at all.are you referring to the sense launcher when you say scrolling through screens? Cuz with that, there is no lag either. I knew there was less ram when I bought it and I thought I might end up regretting it but I honestly haven't seen any reason to and this is just stock. I can only imagine afterwards. I don't think I will overclock like I did my g2. 1, for the sake of the battery, and I don't see how the speed could really improve much
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smoochiezz24 said:
I haven't seen any lag on the sensation at all.are you referring to the sense launcher when you say scrolling through screens? Cuz with that, there is no lag either. I knew there was less ram when I bought it and I thought I might end up regretting it but I honestly haven't seen any reason to and this is just stock. I can only imagine afterwards. I don't think I will overclock like I did my g2. 1, for the sake of the battery, and I don't see how the speed could really improve much
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Well,take my word with a pinch of salt as I don't have a Sensation.But on my Desire HD with Sense 3 rom(768mb of RAM too),RAM is always less than 200mb free.No lagging there too,but after some use and some 100 apps installed,I think it would show.

i currently have a vision
but im dying either for the sensation or the evo 3d, do any of you hapen to know if theres gonna be a 850mhz version of one of these 2 beauties?

. Just because 100 apps are installed, doesn't necessarily mean they are all eating ram. I do however understand what you are saying. I guess only time will show as I've only had it for two and a half weeks now. I think that extra core will kick in then. From my knowledge, the sg2 has a processor where both cores are on at all times where as the sensation's cores can run independently of each other. I think that will lead to better battery optimization. Maybe the lag, if any one experiences any, is when that second core is kicking in. I haven't had this happen to me, but to comment on the topic in case anyone is switching, my advice would be to absolutely grab that sensation. But keep your g2 if you can cause it was indeed a great successor to the first ever android.
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nonione said:
i currently have a vision
but im dying either for the sensation or the evo 3d, do any of you hapen to know if theres gonna be a 850mhz version of one of these 2 beauties?
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I apologize if I'm misguided but when you say 850mhz, are you referring to the processor or is that a radio band?
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smoochiezz24 said:
I apologize if I'm misguided but when you say 850mhz, are you referring to the processor or is that a radio band?
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Radio band.

yup radio band so i can use any of them on at&t's 3g

smoochiezz24 said:
. Just because 100 apps are installed, doesn't necessarily mean they are all eating ram. I do however understand what you are saying. I guess only time will show as I've only had it for two and a half weeks now. I think that extra core will kick in then. From my knowledge, the sg2 has a processor where both cores are on at all times where as the sensation's cores can run independently of each other. I think that will lead to better battery optimization. Maybe the lag, if any one experiences any, is when that second core is kicking in. I haven't had this happen to me, but to comment on the topic in case anyone is switching, my advice would be to absolutely grab that sensation. But keep your g2 if you can cause it was indeed a great successor to the first ever android.
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Well,not all 100 apps have to eat your memory.But out of 100 there will be some that do,that's what I meant.
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tolis626 said:
Well,not all 100 apps have to eat your memory.But out of 100 there will be some that do,that's what I meant.
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Yeah, I absolutely understand. as we are waiting for root, I really don't have many apps try to try that out. My g2 never really stuttered with like 87 apps so I'm really looking forward to pushing this beast to the limit.
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G2x future development

Hey everyone, I currently have a Samsung vibrant but I'm looking to upgrade. The G2x looks sick and since the galaxy s2 isn't out for tmo yet I'm trying to decide what to get.
Long story short, does development seem to be slowing for this device? I've been watching some of the rom threads for a while now and trigger seems to be abandoned.
Just wondering because I'm addicted to flashing and if the future is bleek for the G2x it'd be nice to know haha.
Vibrant+MIUI

Just wait for the sgs2. g2x is slowly dwindled away.
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rvdangel630 said:
Just wait for the sgs2. g2x is slowly dwindled away.
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Its not slowly dwindling, its dwindled
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mr mystery said:
Its not slowly dwindling, its dwindled
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I was also waiting for SGS2. But since the model will have 4.5'' screen, I'll rather stay with G2x. 4.5'' is way bigger that what I can handle

I unfortunately just got the g2x and it development is (compared to active forums) non-existent. Seems no one gives a **** or people that like making roms do not own this phone.

Baleme it on nvidia...

I agree, if nVidia would release their proprietary drivers, the devs could get working again.
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What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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herzzreh said:
What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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Well said. In the past I have flashed my phones so often (dailies on CM6) that I never got to enjoy my phone. Was flashing it every day (sometimes twice a day) and then dealing with bugs and annoyances in the dailies. Some people are addicted to flashing; but who wants to flash constantly to set your phone back up and then flash it again. Plus, eventually you might brick it. On the G2X I just want to enjoy having a speedy phone with little or no problems, that is why the only ROM I have flashed is the GB update and haven't even bothered to root it yet. So far enjoying my phone immensely just using it as intended.

herzzreh said:
What exactly do people want from development? We have a few stable ROMs, CM is going forward. Once you achieve stability or relative stability, development does stop. I don't see a point of having 20 different ROMs with only visual differences, like many other phones here with a lot of so-called development do.
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jboxer said:
Well said. In the past I have flashed my phones so often (dailies on CM6) that I never got to enjoy my phone. Was flashing it every day (sometimes twice a day) and then dealing with bugs and annoyances in the dailies. Some people are addicted to flashing; but who wants to flash constantly to set your phone back up and then flash it again. Plus, eventually you might brick it. On the G2X I just want to enjoy having a speedy phone with little or no problems, that is why the only ROM I have flashed is the GB update and haven't even bothered to root it yet. So far enjoying my phone immensely just using it as intended.
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this.
I came from a vibrant too where I was flashing multiple times a week, constantly tweaking to find performance and stability. then when I got my g2x something felt strange.. took a while for me to realize that it was because after weeks of owning the phone all I had done was rooted it. didn't have to flash anything. it took some getting used to but I can say for sure that I wasn't enjoying my vibrant due to the constant messing around. this phone i enjoy because I just get to use it.

regP said:
this.
I came from a vibrant too where I was flashing multiple times a week, constantly tweaking to find performance and stability. then when I got my g2x something felt strange.. took a while for me to realize that it was because after weeks of owning the phone all I had done was rooted it. didn't have to flash anything. it took some getting used to but I can say for sure that I wasn't enjoying my vibrant due to the constant messing around. this phone i enjoy because I just get to use it.
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Same here. I never find my perfect rom for Vibrant. Too many rom / kernel / modem made me flashing every other day. Every time I wished that the new flash would give be better GPS / Speed / Battery.
Now with G2x I am pretty happy that I have a stable rom with everything I need.

I say wait either for the sgs 2 or the htc 4g amaze.

Was offered a nexus s for my g2x, running weapon rom and very solid besides battery life . cyanogen data is now working for me as well, decisions decisions
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I'm going back to the mytouch 4g because development is slow here.I just enjoy new stuff coming out than trying it
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osugsxr said:
Was offered a nexus s for my g2x, running weapon rom and very solid besides battery life . cyanogen data is now working for me as well, decisions decisions
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I'll trade that guy!
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It may be dwindled, and flashing can be fun sometimes. But mostly I just want a super fast, daily driver with the least amount of bugs. Most of the roms right now have been about as stable as can be expected with better kernels too. I'm happy for all the effort anyone has put in to allow me to not be stuck on stock...seriously try going back and realize what we have available.
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Android 4.0 RAM Requirement

What is the optimal amount of RAM a phone must have to run Ice Cream sandwhich efficently?

I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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Having used a Droid OG with 256mb of RAM on ICS, I can honestly say it sucks balls. There's virtually no multitasking, everything closes.
But 512mb seems to be good nonetheless. The HTC Aria with 384mb of RAM has a pretty good ICS ROM as well...
As long as its stock ICS, it doesn't require too much RAM at all. 512mb seems to be a good, solid amount however.
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DroidmanDan said:
I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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Optimus 2X is coming out with ICS soon (finally).
It has 384MB ram available, 128 goes to the GPU.
Will report back after it's out, but it should be fine.

Mungulz said:
Optimus 2X is coming out with ICS soon (finally).
It has 384MB ram available, 128 goes to the GPU.
Will report back after it's out, but it should be fine.
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That's 512, I think were talking about total RAM here.
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gagdude said:
That's 512, I think were talking about total RAM here.
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I know, but more attention to finer details never killed anyone
Plus it's worthwhile mentioning how much is restricted to GPU usage, some phones might use less, or more. So saying 512MB as a blanket statement isn't going to cover all phones.

DroidmanDan said:
I think ics requires at least 1gig. Custom roms may be able to run on less but it's not ideal.
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You can say that again. My x8 is barely coping. 168mb of ram on a good day

Ics runs smooth on legeng with 300+ ram. Don't know the exact value.

Mororola mailstome had 512 mb of ram and this enought for ICS and JB.

While there is no official requirement (and there are ports to the G1 with a beefy 96mb of ram) its accepted that 512mb would be required to run it well
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i think that the requirement is approxymatly between 300 because my galaxy ace work very nice with 278 ram 4.04 :laugh:

Which phone???

Hey my upgrade deal is coming up from T-Mobile and my question is, is the extra price worth it for an HTC one s vs the gs2? I've looked at reviews and stuff but I need some xda insight. I'm leaning towards the one s but the damn price difference is where the decision lies.
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lonoguge said:
Hey my upgrade deal is coming up from T-Mobile and my question is, is the extra price worth it for an HTC one s vs the gs2? I've looked at reviews and stuff but I need some xda insight. I'm leaning towards the one s but the damn price difference is where the decision lies.
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Why ask here man? I see no point asking here, instead, just consider yourself lol...if u have enough money, then just go to those OneS or GLXS2 forum to see which has the most roms and kernels and stuffs so that u won't have to wait or ask for ETA or discuss bout aries and trolling blah blah lmfao...

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Why ask here man? I see no point asking here, instead, just consider yourself lol...if u have enough money, then just go to those OneS or GLXS2 forum to see which has the most roms and kernels and stuffs so that u won't have to wait or ask for ETA or discuss bout aries and trolling blah blah lmfao...
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I've stopped trolling and I don't think the gs4g phone is worth it anymore. I'm happy that devs are still working on it but I think I need to move on instead of begging for a new update. I've almost forgotten there are other options out there.

I don't know if it's still like this but my first android phone was a mytouch 3g slide. HTC made it and that phone was the biggest pain in the butt to get rooted due to the locked boot loader. I got the s2 and have been very happy with it.
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S3 or get out of contract while you have the chance and get a gnex+$30 a month plan.
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Colear_Bear said:
I don't know if it's still like this but my first android phone was a mytouch 3g slide. HTC made it and that phone was the biggest pain in the butt to get rooted due to the locked boot loader. I got the s2 and have been very happy with it.
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The HTC one s has been majorly upgraded it runs ics and sense 4 ( sense 4 is infinitely better than touchwiz if for no other reason the fact that touchwiz5 can be flashed as a zip onto the one s) with no worries to the one s out of the box so you get best of both worlds) has an awesome 4.3 in 900 by 560 screen res but easily a one handed device due to the thin design. Has an amazing camera a great dual core 1.5 MHz thingy ma bob (not the most tech specific term) and i could definately see the smoothness was comparable to the one x's and the gs3 but it has no expandable memory or access to battery. Oh and a HUUUUGGGE plus is that the one s has an alpha cm10 build already. So pretty much the s one is better than the s2 in every thing except for storage, price, and nfc. Seems like a no brainer right! Its just that with a 2 yr contract the one s is $150 vs the gs2's wapping 0 dollars. I could wait for the price to drop but it was at 50$ back in April when I couldn't upgrade so I doubt the price will drop that much. I feel like this post may have answered by own question lol.
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For me the deciding factor would be the development community. Which one is strong and friendly.

SGS III by far.
The best phone humanity has today, with an external micro SD card slot, unique Sammy features and beasty specs.

I would get the galaxy s 2 (or 3 but you didn't mention it). HTC one s has a **** ton of hardware issues that even HTC has admitted

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SGS III by far.
The best phone humanity has today, with an external micro SD card slot, unique Sammy features and beasty specs.
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agreed but unfortunately the s3 isn't an option because it costs more than double my budget
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For me the deciding factor would be the development community. Which one is strong and friendly.
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I've seen both communities and because they're both popular their community is thriving. Like I said both have jb builds that are improving each day. J doubt either phone will be left behind
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I'd go for HTC One S for the looks.

I'd go for [email protected]!ing fake phones from China so that i can have a Galaxy S2 look alike phone running sense, an most unstable phone tgat can be die whenever it like and a cheap phone (just 50 usd or so) that dont have to be unlocked for carriers lmfao
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You should get HTC since apparently you have such a hard on for sense

HTC
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pisherthefisher said:
You should get HTC since apparently you have such a hard on for sense
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I've never used a sense phone ever! Change is good stop living in a bubble.
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lonoguge said:
I've never used a sense phone ever! Change is good stop living in a bubble.
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I never said sense is bad. Just that you have a hard on for it.

lonoguge said:
The HTC one s has been majorly upgraded it runs ics and sense 4 ( sense 4 is infinitely better than touchwiz if for no other reason the fact that touchwiz5 can be flashed as a zip onto the one s) with no worries to the one s out of the box so you get best of both worlds) has an awesome 4.3 in 900 by 560 screen res but easily a one handed device due to the thin design. Has an amazing camera a great dual core 1.5 MHz thingy ma bob (not the most tech specific term) and i could definately see the smoothness was comparable to the one x's and the gs3 but it has no expandable memory or access to battery. Oh and a HUUUUGGGE plus is that the one s has an alpha cm10 build already. So pretty much the s one is better than the s2 in every thing except for storage, price, and nfc. Seems like a no brainer right! Its just that with a 2 yr contract the one s is $150 vs the gs2's wapping 0 dollars. I could wait for the price to drop but it was at 50$ back in April when I couldn't upgrade so I doubt the price will drop that much. I feel like this post may have answered by own question lol.
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Go look at the s2 forum, I'm running cm10 alpha on mine right now and it is official lol. It was up in the air for me between the one s and s2 as well. I would rather have reliable hardware
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Colear_Bear said:
Go look at the s2 forum, I'm running cm10 alpha on mine right now and it is official lol. It was up in the air for me between the one s and s2 as well. I would rather have reliable hardware
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How are you liking it?
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I'd wait til later in the year to see what the new Nexus device/devices will be. The GS4G, and mainly it's dev community, is more than enough to suffice until then

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How are you liking it?
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Honestly I didn't know what the big deal was when I was on this forum before I got this phone with jelly bean. And now having used it for a couple weeks I really still don't see the big deal with it. It's nice don't get me wrong but it's not leaps and bounds better than ics like gb was to ics.
All in all I'm happy with the phone. Dual core is awesome, the gig of ram also helps allot. love the bigger screen. And with the 16g internal and the 16g sd card I had from my sgs4g I don't think I will be worrying about storage problems for awhile lol
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HTC One X+ is Official

http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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specter491 said:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/02/ht...-jelly-bean-sense-4-plus/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Also a good thing is this
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/
Although it seems it's more so for the International version... and we will have to wait a bit longer... but still

The 64GB expanded storage is what hurts the most I think, though it's very possible there willl be a variant with less like our HOXL.

Stop making these threads!!!! We have 4-5 already!!!! Search!
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And this is the reason why I hate contracts.
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Yawn.... Not impressed
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CheesyNutz said:
Yawn.... Not impressed
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Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version

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Not even with the 64GB if that makes it to the US version
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Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.

Yea. It seems to much like the Int. One x. And I'm just excited for some official jellybean. =D Can't wait to see how they pull it off, since the last official stock ROM was actually good this should he better with butter and what not!
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AJerman said:
Not really. A mostly unnoticeable jump in CPU speed (that OC could have already gotten you), and 64 GB when I still don't fill my 8 GB. Carry on. I'll be waiting for Exynos 5.
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I my self love my current One-x phone but if i could have asked for anything different it would have been the storage space. I still havent filled up my current one-x but just knowing that the phone has plenty of space is a good comfort feeling. Ultimately this phone wouldnt make me jump to try and sell my current one, but it sure would have been nice to have more than 16 (12 useable) gigs of space.

The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.

Butters619 said:
The storage and bigger battery hurt some. The processor boost is whatever, but I am constantly having to pull stuff off my phone because I am out of storage and that extra 17% of battery capacity would have made it so I make it home every night before my phone dies.
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Agree. During the $.25 sale i realized how little space we have on our phone! I ran out of space after buying FIFA, Mass effect and batman. I never thought i would run out of space on my phone but 14GB seems too little now.
32 would be ideal, 64 perfect.
I'm not a big fan of tegra 3 because of its battery consumption. I prefer cortex 15 based s4 which is very efficient.
The battery and rom is the only thing that i wish i had.

Dupe thread. Closed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916202