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[Q] Switch from 4EXT to CWM ? / Flashing boot.img ? (CM10-alpha)

Hi XDA
My device before the procedure : HTC Desire S, unbranded, Bootloader locked,
HBoot 2.00.0002, S-ON, ICS stock rom via HTC RUU tool
I unlocked the bootloader via htcdev.com.
After hours of reading and testing "everything" I found here on xda (great stuff!!),
I finally managed to have a running CM10-alpha.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776256 / Version 2012-09-17)
As I am new to this flashing stuff, I first tried to follow the flashing guide
on the CM-website. Was not workable because "Revolutionary" can not be used on hboot 2...
So I continued with flashing CWM-recovery and after a wipe (factory/reset/cache/dalvik),
I flashed CM10.zip and gapps.zip.
It went through without any errors, unfortunately, the device did not boot afterwards.
I found this guide :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100 (CustomROM with 4EXT-recovery)
It indicates flashing "boot.img" (from the CM10 zip-file) as a last step.
Probably the most important step for this HTC device ?!
The Desire S booted CM10 without any further problems and is running since.
(I did not flash GApps.zip, just downloaded Maps and Youtube.)
I have 3 questions :
1. Is it possible to update to a newer version of 4EXT-recovery without losing
the CM10-installation ?
(e.g. 4EXT-Touch : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377745)
2. Is it possible to switch from 4EXT to CWM-recovery without losing
the CM10-installation ? I would like to have CWM because I could then use the ROMManager App.
(e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484753)
3. If I would stick with the current 4EXT-recovery,
do I always have to flash "boot.img" as the last step before booting up the device ?
(e.g. after the next CM10-alpha release)
"fastboot flash boot boot.img"
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Thanks so much !
CM10 is great, so much faster than HTC-stock rom ICS (with Sense 3.6) !!
CU

1) yes
2)yep
3)si
Edit: you only have to flash the boot.img when the kernel changes from cm10 to fallout yes.
Updating cm10 no, if the dev didn't change the kernel.
After a full wipe (in 4ext format everything exept SD-card) you also have to use fastboot. Because that wipes the boot.img

Thanks !
Just to recap, I can flash CWM-recovery and then do a normal bootup (with my existing CM10 installation). No further actions required !?
As the kernel will probably remain at v2.xx with the next CM10-alpha-release of nik111, I only wipe reset/factory/cache/dalvik
and then flash the new cm10.zip.
I do not think that I will format anything. But if I would, I would have to replace boot.img again.

FrolicFrog said:
Thanks !
Just to recap, I can flash CWM-recovery and then do a normal bootup (with my existing CM10 installation). No further actions required !?
As the kernel will probably remain at v2.xx with the next CM10-alpha-release of nik111, I only wipe reset/factory/cache/dalvik
and then flash the new cm10.zip.
I do not think that I will format anything. But if I would, I would have to replace boot.img again.
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Changing recovery will not touch anything else on your device. But there were some issues reported with CWM on some ROMs.
I think one of them is a lack of /system/lib partition support, which is important if you go from a ROM that has such to a ROM without one (it will end with two conflicting /system/lib directories and the device will not boot.
Also I am not sure that CWM wipes the .android-secure directory on the SDcard which can cause issues if going from AOSP to Sense ROM

For some reason I never changed from cwm to 4ext whilst I owned a ds but I can confirm it does wipe .android-secure on the sd card

pughie said:
For some reason I never changed from cwm to 4ext whilst I owned a ds but I can confirm it does wipe .android-secure on the sd card
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I have used it about an year ago so it is definitely improved. But there was an user with Bluetooth issues after flashing my kernel and changing the recovery solved it. Also 4EXT has a lot of minor but very useful settings over CWM. Anyway the OP can try both and stick with the one he likes more
Btw Rom Manager can be used to check for updates and ROM downloads with 4EXT if you choose "manual flash override" from the menu
Sent from my HTC Desire S

amidabuddha said:
Btw Rom Manager can be used to check for updates and ROM downloads with 4EXT if you choose "manual flash override" from the menu
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Ah, will check on this one. Thanks !

FrolicFrog said:
As the kernel will probably remain at v2.xx with the next CM10-alpha-release of nik111, I only wipe reset/factory/cache/dalvik
and then flash the new cm10.zip.
I do not think that I will format anything. But if I would, I would have to replace boot.img again.
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Nk111 uploaded a screenshot today, that shows kernel v3.0.16
When upgrading cm10 wiping cache & dalvic cache should be enough. If you get any problems, apps fc or something like that, do a full wipe(I use format all partitions except SD card in 4ext, after that don't forget to flash the kernel with fastboot).
Btw wipe and format is the same.

Bug in CM10 Alpha by nk11
Hello XDA,
Sorry if this question is in the wrong thread.
It is regarding the cm10 alpha port by nk111.
I got it working, save one major bug, the speaker does not produce any sound output whatsoever:
This applies to ringtones, alarm tones and music.
The sound is perfectly audible through a pair of earphones.
I followed the steps in the official thread to delete the file /system/lib/hw/audio_policy.msm7x30.so and reboot
but this only aggravates the issue by disabling all audio outputs!!!
I am running clockwork mod v5 with HTC bootlocker unlocked, S-ON.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

c.m.b said:
Nk111 uploaded a screenshot today, that shows kernel v3.0.16
When upgrading cm10 wiping cache & dalvic cache should be enough. If you get any problems, apps fc or something like that, do a full wipe(I use format all partitions except SD card in 4ext, after that don't forget to flash the kernel with fastboot).
Btw wipe and format is the same.
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I saw the screenshot of kernel version 3, too. And was quite excited
Thanks for the hint with wiping only cache&dalvik.

HELP!! phone not booting!!

im using ARHD 6.7.2 and i update my fone to ARHD 6.8.0.. after searching for new ROMs ive found CM!) and wanted to try it...
what i thing i did wrong is i did format my partitions and i also did a full wipe of cache ond dalvik..
now, my phone is not continuing to boot.. it just shows HTC logo and it turns back off, then on again...

jackalsmith43 said:
im using ARHD 6.7.2 and i update my fone to ARHD 6.8.0.. after searching for new ROMs ive found CM!) and wanted to try it...
what i thing i did wrong is i did format my partitions and i also did a full wipe of cache ond dalvik..
now, my phone is not continuing to boot.. it just shows HTC logo and it turns back off, then on again...
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Hi,
After you format all partitions (except sd card),you must install the new ROM + gapps.
If you are s-on,you may need to enable "Smartflash" in 4EXT and then,install the ROM immediately.

[Q] Desire S not booting Sense ROMs

Hey, I need some help regarding ViperSAGA ROM...
I tried flashing it and my phone won't boot.
Full wipe-->Clear Cache-->Clear Dalvik Cache-->Install Rom(v1.0)-->Install flashable v1.1.0update-->boot loader n then flash boot.img through fastboot.
The phone gets stuck on a black screen after T-Mobile logo appears. I left it for sometime but still its same black screen.
Coming from PACMan v19 and This was the same problem when I tried flashing Cooldroid. Same stuck on black screen. Is it some problem with Sense ROMs?
Other ROMs works fine (Andromadus 4.2 builds,CM10.1,PACMan,JellyTime).
here is my phone info:
Htc devunlock
Hboot 2.00xx
Cwm recovery...
I already searched different threads and also took help from a good friend of mine (google) so please dont bash me for a stupid question (If it sounds like one)
Hope anyone can help.
Thanks.

what's your hboot? AFAIK, some sense roms need a "special" hboot as the ROMS have a separate /system/libs
Sent from my supercharged tank

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hisname said:
what's your hboot? AFAIK, some sense roms need a "special" hboot as the ROMS have a separate /system/libs
Sent from my supercharged tank
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I already mentioned the hboot above. Its 2.00.xxx
Also I used Fallout Evolution before flashing to 4.1.2 ROMs and it worked superb..
Its some disturbance after I used JB Roms

Xtreme.Infinity said:
I already mentioned the hboot above. Its 2.00.xxx
Also I used Fallout Evolution before flashing to 4.1.2 ROMs and it worked superb..
Its some disturbance after I used JB Roms
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Use 4ext touch recovery , and Full wipe , then install a sense rom
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

AW: [Q] Desire S not booting Sense ROMs
When you say "full wipe", do you mean all partitions? (/system, /data etc.)

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teadrinker said:
When you say "full wipe", do you mean all partitions? (/system, /data etc.)
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By Full Wipe I mean "wipe data/factory reset" option i.e the one below install zip from sdcard. I always do only that
Where do I wipe data system etc?

Xtreme.Infinity said:
By Full Wipe I mean "wipe data/factory reset" option i.e the one below install zip from sdcard. I always do only that
Where do I wipe data system etc?
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use "format all partitions except sd card"

ContactFront said:
use "format all partitions except sd card"
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I was using CWM before...Just installed 4EXT...Going to test through it then share the result..
Hope I succeed

[Q] Codename Lungo CM11, stuck at android logo first boot.

Hello,
This is my first post. I have searched throughout for an answer but nothing seems to point me in the right direction. So here it goes:
I have an HTC sensation Z710e with:
Kernel : 3.016-ga462f5f (stock)
Unlocked bootloader
CWM 5 flashed
Rooted (obvious i guess, just to be thorough )
S-OFF.
So far so good. I followed the rules/tutorials to the letter and managed to flash the Codename Lungo CM11 version on my phone. On first reboot (before going for the GAPPS as instructed ) the device passes the HTC logo and gets stuck on the android loading logo. Tried it twice with the same results, had to revert to my recovery to get back to working condition.
Is it/could be a kernel issue?
Any tips/advice would be more than welcome.
PS: I wanted to post it in the related thread but no access for me yet :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930403

Silvang said:
Hello,
This is my first post. I have searched throughout for an answer but nothing seems to point me in the right direction. So here it goes:
I have an HTC sensation Z710e with:
Kernel : 3.016-ga462f5f (stock)
Unlocked bootloader
CWM 5 flashed
Rooted (obvious i guess, just to be thorough )
S-OFF.
So far so good. I followed the rules/tutorials to the letter and managed to flash the Codename Lungo CM11 version on my phone. On first reboot (before going for the GAPPS as instructed ) the device passes the HTC logo and gets stuck on the android loading logo. Tried it twice with the same results, had to revert to my recovery to get back to working condition.
Is it/could be a kernel issue?
Any tips/advice would be more than welcome.
PS: I wanted to post it in the related thread but no access for me yet :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930403
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flash the rom with different recovery
use 4ext instead of cwm

rzr86 said:
flash the rom with different recovery
use 4ext instead of cwm
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Hey and thanks for your reply. I have followed your advice but the problem persists. Any other ideas?
Cheers

Silvang said:
Hey and thanks for your reply. I have followed your advice but the problem persists. Any other ideas?
Cheers
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Format the data partition along with system/cache and dalvic cache before flashing the ROM.
Edit: Data partition can be formatted by factory rest operation. Not sure though.

Jeanz Sensation said:
Format the data partition along with system/cache and dalvic cache before flashing the ROM.
Edit: Data partition can be formatted by factory rest operation. Not sure though.
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You were right that did the trick. Thank you

Some roms dont work

Hello, i've install for 2-4 Weeks the Universal Firmware 3.33
Info to my Bootloader
***firmware 3.33***
S-Off
Hboot 1.27.1111
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Now... My Problem is , since 1 week ViperS5.0 dont boot up, ok wipe data / factory reset. Not work..Ok.. Install ROM Again.. Not work...
ViperS 3.14 self problem...
what is working:
CM11 KitKat...
ARHD 7.3
ViperS 2.0
other roms dont work.. i'll try to downgrade firmware, nothing happens
can where help me????? :////

kevios12 said:
Hello, i've install for 2-4 Weeks the Universal Firmware 3.33
Info to my Bootloader
***firmware 3.33***
S-Off
Hboot 1.27.1111
--------------------------------------
Now... My Problem is , since 1 week ViperS5.0 dont boot up, ok wipe data / factory reset. Not work..Ok.. Install ROM Again.. Not work...
ViperS 3.14 self problem...
what is working:
CM11 KitKat...
ARHD 7.3
ViperS 2.0
other roms dont work.. i'll try to downgrade firmware, nothing happens
can where help me????? :////
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what recovery do you have?

mile_zdr said:
what recovery do you have?
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4ext v1.0.0.5 rc5

kevios12 said:
4ext v1.0.0.5 rc5
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did you do format everything except sd card before flashing new rom?

Format System / Format Boot / Wipe Data / Wipe dalvik & cache....

kevios12 said:
Format System / Format Boot / Wipe Data / Wipe dalvik & cache....
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it have function format all except sd card after that flash rom , and what happens after flashing rom? how long did you waited to boot up?

i wait 6 Seconds...Then reboot my phone and this imeadly....

kevios12 said:
i wait 6 Seconds...Then reboot my phone and this imeadly....
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use the option format all except sd card as Mile_zdr suggested
after that reflash the rom
if it doesn't boot then flash the boot.img of the rom via fastboot command