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Samsung Korea announced this Morning the T*OMNIA, the OMNIA’s big brother. If basically both the OMNIA and T*OMNIA are similar, the Korean version has some improved features, with :
- A slightly larger Screen 3.3” (Regular OMNIA has only a 3.22”)
- A Higher Screen Resolution of 480 x 800 (Regular OMNIA has only a 240 x 400 screen resolution)
- A DMB TV Tuner (Digital TV Tuner)
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But then some further digging I found the official Anycall.com website:
http://www.anycall.com/bbs.review.r...sR9~&start_page=1&direction=1&bbs_type=review
They are fronting this as the SCH-M490
Can you believe this now has a 806Mhz CPU!!! Not so sure about the lower RAM, but if their keeping up with the i900 which was rather snappy to use I can't see any probs.
I'd love to purchase one and convert it to English from Korean. Is converting the language very difficult?
Does anyone know how easy it is to purchase one from korea? Anybody with info please let me know I'd be very grateful
they might actually be shipping it in WWE - they do this sometimes in Asia.
Like you, I think I could happily kill someone (i dont like) for one of these. I currently have a 16gig Omnia and love it... far better than ANY of the many HTC phones i've had in the past.
If anyone can tell me how/where to get one of these without flying over, that would be sweet!
T*OMNIA from korea
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Glad to see some people interested in the t*omnia at xda devs... I've been waiting so long for this smartphone to came out... I'm planning to buy one soon, but not until someone can assure me it can make it run on english. So we have here something similar to the question of what's first, the chicken or the egg... I'll buy the phone before someone cooks an english rom (something i'm not able to do myself) or I wait somene does and then I buy...
well, anyway I'll try to post any news about the device from here (seoul)
And BTW if someone else plans to release an english rom I'll do everything I can to support it
thanks!!
yes please! Please keep us informed from your end of the world
I've been with T*OMNIA
Yes, finally this afternoon I was able to spend some time (short) with the T*OMNIA, now, in order to be true I must say I've never seen a regular omnia i900 directly, BUT I've been with the iphone...
Well, in short, the phone was great, the new interface looks a little like the one in the new HTC phones, and the "responsiveness" of the screen was really,really satisfying, and also everything goes like a breeze, I've seen almost no difference with previous dumbphones like the Haptic 2, wich widget interface was 90% same as T*OMNIA, really fast (806 MHZ at work, I supose).
The operating sistem was indeed in korean, but I didn't found big difficulties to operate it, as many programs where still in english (opera mobile, windows media, etc etc), and also I can download any program in english if I wish, so...
Now, after all the goodness, there is something that will made me NOT buy it, probably: NO FREE LANDSCAPE MODE!! Yes, just like the iphone one, only some applications where using it, like the mp3 player, movie player and opera and web browsering... no landscape for message and mail, no landscape in menu or other applicatios, and after all I forgot to open word to check it...but not hopeful of landscape even there. You may wonder, but I've really checked the phone for options on the screen and they where INEXISTENT!! I'm askig the korean forums if this will be solved in the next firmware, but I doubt it...
So definitely not worth that much money if things came like that...
Samsung really treats its own korean costumers as if they were stupids
I'll update as soon as I can...
well, that is a bit crap!
LOL, are you guys serious?
Just use Gyrator 2. Seriously I expected better from people at xda-devs.
I don't know if gyrator 2 will work with the t*omnia, also I forgot to comment that the battery life is much less than regular omnia (due 806 MHZ) processor and that the general memory is ONLY 4 GIGAS (that cost around 800 USD with a two year contract), samsung will made a special version of 16 GIGAS but just 2000 (yes, two thousand) will be available... what a ****!!
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LOL, are you guys serious?
Just use Gyrator 2. Seriously I expected better from people at xda-devs.
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Why should we? The normal omnia doesn't need it so why should the next version need it?
And maybe, just maybe, we don't spend all our lives on this forum and only pop in for a visit/gander. Seriously, I expected people here to understand we are not all phone mad.
I would expect the larger res screen would also eat a lot more battery power. Combine that with the faster cpu and yeah, would think the battery would last a lot less. Very disapointed that its only got 4gig .... real shame. One of the selling points for me was the ability to have a phone with 32gig in it. Thats also one hell of a price considering that has to be WITH a two year contract as well... wonder what they sell for off contract? Couple of thousand?
so is this omnia recommended over the prev. one ?
xfox said:
so is this omnia recommended over the prev. one ?
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Definitely NOT under the actual conditions, oh, BTW I forgot to tell you that the GPS is NOT a-gps but s-gps, so biiig shiit again. That's not to say that the phone can be very atractive... but by now it seems like a capped version....4 gigas sounds like a joke, specially when outside korea is 8 to 16 gigas... koreans are also complaining about the battery life, but this pint I can't confrm wether is that bad or not, since this is the first smartphone (beh) to be popular in korea, the koreans expected it to behave like a dumbphone (compare your regular nokia-razor vs a i900, off course battery drainage is different), so they complain a lot.
Well, I just it will everything improove with time, but now I'm looking for an unlocked samsung i900, I've heard the american CDMA version can work in korea, so I'm gonna check, I can exchange a slower processor and less resolution for bigger battery life, full functioning apps, internet radio, A-GPS, no samsung propietary crap USB accessory(that's another point, is really a little fragile device that someone designed to made it specially prone to lost and destroying), english software support, etc etc etc.
I'll wait until february, then I'll decide over everything, by that time the omnia 16 giga woud have been released (some rumours says it will be firmware upgraded, but with so few units....who knows), and also the iphone wold be released-with all the good and bad thinks of the iphone-and I prefer to have that smartphone that no smartphone or a crapphone that cost me a leg an four ribs...
I'll keep you updated for any news related to the t*omnia that came to my ears and eyes
so now i have the choice of:
1-waiting for a better version of the t-omnia.
2-buying the original omnia.
3-buying an HTC HD or Pro (dont want to cause i hate HTC by now)
4-buying the new ASUS
or waiting a little more with the headaches of my Kaiser.......who knows maybe switching to androide if nothing comes up!
talking about ENGLISH ver !!!
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, I've heard the american CDMA version can work in korea, so I'm gonna check,
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Samsung has appliedfor FCC (USA) clearance for the SCH-M490 which means an English version will likely to released in USA.
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It (SCH-M490) also applied for FCC (USA) approval meaning it will be launched in USA once it is approved.
See http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10063032-1.html
To be launched in USA means that it has be English version.
ref>> http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=103427
any news on the english rom?? if so, where to download?
sanybody from korea can help?
Am I the only one who can't see the Maps update in the Market?
Nope. It's for 2.0+. Though some 1.6 users reported it was working for them.
I got the Maps update no problem. Going to buzz.google.com, however, just shows me a list of compatible mobile OSes.
Kind of sad that iPhone users can use Buzz but you can only get it from Android 2.0+ =/
"Update @4:40PM : For Android users, buzz.google.com and shortcuts are currently available only for phones with Android 2.0+ and we're working to support other versions soon. Google Maps for mobile with Buzz (Maps 4.0) is available in Android Market for phones with Android 1.6+.
Posted by Punit Singh Soni, Product Manager, Google Mobile"
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2010/02/introducing-google-buzz-for-mobile-see.html
I see it!. But I use 2.1 as my daily.
maps 4.0 worked fine on my aosp 1.6...
The Buzz integration in Maps 4.0 is nice.
Yup.
Pretty ****ing ridiculous that Google release stuff like this that their own released software can't handle.
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Yup.
Pretty ****ing ridiculous that Google release stuff like this that their own released software can't handle.
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Google is wanting to push 2.x and brush the older software under the rug. Can you blame them?
I have Toast´s 2.1 ROM and although it downloads the Maps update, it does not let an installation/update go through.
Maps 4 installed on AOSP 1.6. Buzz integration is pretty awesome. I can post updates and my gmail account updated yet.
Buzz could take off imo. I like the idea of twitter but didnt want to sign up for yet another social account.
It's not Google's fault Sprint sucks ass at updating us all to Android 2.0+
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It's not Google's fault Sprint sucks ass at updating us all to Android 2.0+
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It definitely isn't Google's fault... I'd say it's mostly HTC's issue.
Our problem is twofold. We run one of the few CDMA Android devices which means the support/development is a little lacking. If T-Mobile got the Hero way back when it launched in Europe, we'd be running a solid 2.1 build right now guaranteed.
The problem is that HTC has been slow to port over Sense UI. I don't blame them but I'm quite sure thats where the bottleneck is. I'm definitely regretting porting from T-Mobile to Sprint for this device... so much so that I plan on porting back once I receive my N1.
It would be nice if they'd "leak" a fully-functional AOSP build of 2.1 for the more savvy Hero users. Completely outrageous that I got this phone because I wanted to be bleeding edge with Android updates. =/
It seems that the sensation already has functionality for the newly released Glonass satellites. According to a Dutch website the Qualcomm S2 and S3 chips already have support built in. Thus the phones already having support are HTC Desire HD, Incredible S and all Sony Ericsson Xperia phones from 2011, as well as recent BlackBerry's like the Bold 9900 and Torch 9860. Most importantly so do the HTC Sensation series and Evo 3D.
The Russian GPS alternative can only be used in conjunction with GPS
Manufacturers and operators must however enable Glonass. On which phones this already happened and how that will happen with updates is unclear.
What benefit can we get from this thinking about gps lock an accuracy since it's already in our sensation but probably not activated yet.
Here is a movie from Qualcomm explaining about Glonass and smartphones with their chipset.
Video
and a link to the site (it's in Dutch)
This is interesting, certainly, but even if the functionality is "available" in a chipset it's not necessarily usable. It probably requires a different antenna design or something, similar to how you need a different antenna for LTE and GSM because they're on different frequencies.
I've contacted @SnapDragon on Twitter, and they've said that it's indeed on our phones but it all depends on HTC on unlocking it for us to use. I'm guessing it's all in the radio, Devs gotta look it up and hopefully enable it?
Usually if something's disabled on a hardware level it requires more than just clever rom hackers to enable it, and even then it's not perfect. HTC would need to release official drivers or something.
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I've contacted @SnapDragon on Twitter, and they've said that it's indeed on our phones but it all depends on HTC on unlocking it for us to use. I'm guessing it's all in the radio, Devs gotta look it up and hopefully enable it?
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Haha, I just read your tweet. I don't think HTC will go out of their way to enable it, but we'll see.
Here's a link to Qualcomm enabling GLONASS in English.
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/qualcomm-enables-dual-core-location-on-snapdragon-phones/
http://www.qualcomm.com/blog/2011/12/15/gps-and-glonass-dual-core-location-your-phone
The official Qualcomm article on it says that the T-Mobile S2 has it enabled, maybe we can port their drivers to our phone?
qualcomm made best gps chpisets in mobile phone and im happy i have perfect position accuracy thanks qualcomm (my friend with sgs2 have poor accuracy and must wait every time few minutes to lock gps - with turned off data)
Any news on this? I bought an XE a couple of weeks back and I was just reading about GLONASS, ending up in this thread...
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It seems that the sensation already has functionality for the newly released Glonass satellites. According to a Dutch website the Qualcomm S2 and S3 chips already have support built in. Thus the phones already having support are HTC Desire HD, Incredible S and all Sony Ericsson Xperia phones from 2011, as well as recent BlackBerry's like the Bold 9900 and Torch 9860. Most importantly so do the HTC Sensation series and Evo 3D.
The Russian GPS alternative can only be used in conjunction with GPS
Manufacturers and operators must however enable Glonass. On which phones this already happened and how that will happen with updates is unclear.
What benefit can we get from this thinking about gps lock an accuracy since it's already in our sensation but probably not activated yet.
Here is a movie from Qualcomm explaining about Glonass and smartphones with their chipset.
Video
and a link to the site (it's in Dutch)
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I've contacted @SnapDragon on Twitter, and they've said that it's indeed on our phones but it all depends on HTC on unlocking it for us to use. I'm guessing it's all in the radio, Devs gotta look it up and hopefully enable it?
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Usually if something's disabled on a hardware level it requires more than just clever rom hackers to enable it, and even then it's not perfect. HTC would need to release official drivers or something.
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Great find Rubman. This is rather interesting.
I do hope HTC and our community can figure this out quickly!
GLONASS is very cool, the name alone is kickass. I love seeing new technology come out every day.
Sony Ericsson is gonna enable GLONASS on a bunch of of Xperia phones
Samsung is gonna do the same for the Galaxy Note. Hopefully HTC will wake up and join the trend...
//lys
This maybe due to the fact, that Russia is planning on forcing a increased tax on navstar GPS devices which are not capable of using GLONASS GPS:
To improve development of the user segment, on August 11, 2010, Sergei Ivanov announced a plan to introduce a 25% import duty on all GPS-capable devices, including mobile phones, unless they are compatible with GLONASS. As well, the government is planning to force all car manufacturers in Russia to make cars with GLONASS starting from 2011. This will affect all car makers, including foreign brands like Ford and Toyota, which have car assembly facilities in Russia.
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via "Сотовые и навигаторы без ГЛОНАСС обложат пошлиной в 25% [Non-GLONASS-capable mobiles and satnavs will incur 25% duty]" (in Russian). RBC. 2010-10-27. Retrieved 2010-10-27.
(Coppied that section from Wikipedia, would provide the source link, but don't have enough posts yet.)
The company I work for includes GLONASS GPS receivers in their devices (no phones) for this reason.
GPS is super accurate on my sensation, and Lock is within a few seconds. Way better than my n1 . Why would I want to further drain my phone? It would be cool as a hack, but nothing more to me.
mrbkkt1 said:
GPS is super accurate on my sensation, and Lock is within a few seconds. Way better than my n1 . Why would I want to further drain my phone? It would be cool as a hack, but nothing more to me.
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GPS reception had improved significantly from my Diamond HD to my Desire HD and then took another leap forward when I got me my Sensation XE (and my wife's Wildfire S, for that matter!). Much faster locking and quite accurate. Even locks from within the appartment!
That said, there are times where it shows some deficiencies, especially when I'm stopped. GLONASS is supposed to offer much higher accuracy - and let's face it, more is better
Who knows, maybe you can disable GPS and switch to GLONASS altogether...?
Although the Sensation id better than the Desire S & Desire HD. The HD2 is still WAY BETTER than the Sensation, even with all the GPS tweaks, the HD2 running old Windows Mobile can get a lock in a few seconds even if GPS has not been running for weeks, even without a SIM card & without wifi (no aGPS).
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Although the Sensation id better than the Desire S & Desire HD. The HD2 is still WAY BETTER than the Sensation, even with all the GPS tweaks, the HD2 running old Windows Mobile can get a lock in a few seconds even if GPS has not been running for weeks, even without a SIM card & without wifi (no aGPS).
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HD2? Better? Aw, come on, maybe if you live on a satellite
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HD2? Better? Aw, come on, maybe if you live on a satellite
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Yes, also my good old HD (without 2 ) has a better GPS reception than my Sensation now. Sees on average 1-2 satellites more and the satellites it sees have on average a 10% better S/N.
So indeed, it would be highly appreciated from my side to also have GLONASS support on the Sensation. And as GLONASS is only "turned on" when GPS reception is poor, this would not mean too much additional battery drain...
As it seems that HTC will be forced to support GLONASS by the Russian government, I hope that it will only be a matter of time before this comes true...
The Whistler
+1 about HTC and Russia.
Who knows, maybe it was just me, with all my WinMo devices the experience sucked pretty often, with total blackouts. Even my wife's Wildfire S is able to lock in a couple of seconds and without having to hold it against a window as was the case with my older devices. Maybe it's geography-related? I'm in Greece...
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+1 about HTC and Russia.
Who knows, maybe it was just me, with all my WinMo devices the experience sucked pretty often, with total blackouts. Even my wife's Wildfire S is able to lock in a couple of seconds and without having to hold it against a window as was the case with my older devices. Maybe it's geography-related? I'm in Greece...
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Based on your experience, I would say its "aGPS" related. As in "assisted GPS that is supposed to be enabled/featured by your operator. As I remeber, Windows Mobile never had "aGPS", so it would make sense that you Android devices are taking advantage of aGPS compared to the WM devices.
Try this, remove SIM cards & turn off wifi to make sure aGPS is not used, then try to get a cold lock.
WinMo did have aGPS. I remember actually downloading and updating the ephemeris manually in desperation to try and get something to show up...
Nice idea, just tried it; got 9 satelites within 4 seconds!
hi. nothing new about sensation and glonass?
omar302 said:
Although the Sensation id better than the Desire S & Desire HD. The HD2 is still WAY BETTER than the Sensation, even with all the GPS tweaks, the HD2 running old Windows Mobile can get a lock in a few seconds even if GPS has not been running for weeks, even without a SIM card & without wifi (no aGPS).
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The Hd2 GPS really is phenomenal. I pulled out my old hd2 the other day. Or hasn't been powered up since October, and GPS locked within seconds. (And I was inside)I was thinking there was something wrong with my sensation, but now that I see this it makes me feel better. Hd2 just had awesome gps.
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Has samsung released when they are planning on releasing the ICS update for the wifi version? Or is it possible to make an ICS rom for p6210 from what they have released?
Best to wait for an official release. From what I've seen, there is a lot of bugginess in the current CM9 builds. It can't be too far off now.
...I hope
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There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.
Samsung US is the slowest of the slow
It always takes Samsung US the longest to release updates. They are horrifically slow so just hang in there. A concept Samsung (overall) has never grasped is that these user forums do not differentiate between the the different country models when they create a forum for a device (which the forums shouldn't have to do anyway). The problem that Samsung seems oblivious to is that if you perform upgrades to the devices for Asian countries but neglect to do so for Europe or the United States in any type of timely matter, it just creates very ill will on the parts of the world that they seem to be ignoring. It becomes a case of the "have's" and the "have not's". Unfortunately the upper management at Samsung are "have not's" when it comes to brains and I doubt they will ever figure out that they give the appearance of screwing over some of their customers. This is not to say that the P6210 will not get its upgrade. I am sure it will. You just have to wait for the incredibly slow and somewhat brain dead people at Samsung. Isn't their company motto...."We love your money, we could just care-a-less about you?
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There has not been any specific date announced for Samsung's US 6210 release. Apparently at least one UK user has it already.
CM9 is really close. WIFI should be working now.
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Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!
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Where did you read that a UK user has it already? I'm in the UK and my P6210 is decidedly un-ICSed!
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See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28725729
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i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)
ccpotato said:
i connected P6210 in both UK and Austria today and update wasnt available in either location
lol at this POS branded tablet. i would buy nexus 7 if it was availble in this region (it isnt)
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Really? Its not even that big a deal. If you are going to lose your cool, just Odin the stock firmware that has been posted. The stock ICS experience is awesome.
yep... used Odin to put on posted firmware and this thing is NICE now
finally it matches the experience of my phone (galaxy nexus on 4.x)
Hi,
We're going away for holidays in America soon and realised we're going to need a GPS app to navigate us around. I was just wondering if XDA had good suggestions for a GPS app? It needs to have complete offline navigation as we plan to put the app on our tablet and phones and also be free if possible.
Thanks.
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I don't think there are any free GPS apps for off-line usage. You can cache Google Maps but for your situation that probably isn't going to work.
I have used Sygic & you can buy the US maps for $40. Its not a bad GPS app but it is certainly no replacement for TomTom. You can purchase it on the Play Store.
I use CoPilot Live USA (the version I had was on sale for $5 USD when I got it.
Now it seems to be about $18
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mFsay5jb3BpbG90Lm5hbWFya2V0LnByZW1pdW11c2EiXQ..
I also see this but not sure how well it work but it's free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDMsImNvbS5hbGsuY29waWxvdC5tYXB2aWV3ZXIiXQ..
I use CoPilot GPS, the free one. It is not bad, not great. I am not sure that there is one that will do spoken turn-by-turn or the cool heads up for ramps and interstate splits. I wish I could download something like my Roadmate for 40 or 50 bux.
CoPilot
I use the paid version. It definitely has spoken turn-by-turn instructions, spoken street names, and major intersection lane guidance.
It is large with full North America maps, a little over 1GB, but it is very thorough.
The newer GPS CoPilot, released in the last few months so far as I know, is smoother than CoPilot Live for me.
Google Maps and Navigation are also surprisingly good, but require a good phone signal. This is mainly useful for local lookups, for me.
Please be aware that all GPS maps will have some old road routing and accuracy gaps.
Welcome, and have a good visit.