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[Q] [POLL] Desire HD, Galaxy S, standard Desire or wait?

should i got for the desire HD with its poor battery life but blazing performance,
the galaxy S that feels like a toy and hope froyo (not in UK yet) fixes its problems,
or buy a desire with its (now) outdated processor but large and probably long lasting community support?
or should i just wait until something the size of the desire comes out with the processor from the desire HD?

only 1 vote and no replies? i feel unloved

It might just be me, but I don't trust Samsung with phones. As opposed to HTC, their phones feel like toys, and although they're sometimes more powerful, they're not supported for very long. Basically, it's bleeding edge (at least hardware-wise) vs quality. And by quality I mean not only build quality but also how long the device is supported for by the manufacturer and what you can do with it afterwards.
HTC phones are usually top-quality devices, the first to get rooted, have the best third-party interface (Sense) which btw can be removed. The Galaxy S phones are powerful, but Touchwiz adds no functionality when compared to Sense (which adds a LOT) and Samsung doesn't have a good track record of updating their phones often. Look at the Behold II. Look at the current US Galaxy S phones. It's the reason I chose an HTC Evo over a Samsung Epic (Galaxy S with a keyboard, dual cameras, and WiMax). On top of that the Galaxy S phones haven't even gotten 2.2 yet here in US and have a number of hardware issues, one being the GPS.
By no means am I saying the Galaxy S phones are bad, it's just that you'd get more out of an HTC device. My mother and sisters own the Samsung Intercept, which is supposed to be the successor to the Moment. It's in fact a downgrade in every way except the keyboard. But I'm not going to go into that. I say wait till Christmas or get a Desire HD.

Well right now I'll choose the Galaxy S phone because it's the best android phone right now but wait because in this times (November, December, January) alot of phones arrive and maybe a better one comes

As I hate the low resolution of AMOLED screens...
Desire HD
Desire
Galaxy S

Galaxy S2

Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!

Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.

That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...

I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though

SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.

Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.

I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.

that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.

I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/

SO gps works...
BRB preordering

Glad they put the USB at the bottom

yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory

I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?

bri315317 said:
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Agree
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"

You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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[Q] Phone choosing

What phone should i buy from this: atrix 4g, galaxy s2, sensation, optimus 3d?
What other phone you recomand me?(no evo 3d,is to expensive).
Which is the coolest phone?

Depends
It depends on what you are looking for. Of those mentioned, I like the Sensation and the Galaxy S2 the most, with the edge going to the Galaxy S2 because of its processing power, improved Touchwiz UI, and it's screen. The Sensation is a close second, less ram, great dual core processor [especially with the Revolution HD rom by mike1986], and a higher res screen than the Samsung. LG is just not a solid contender for me, they need to be along a while longer and have some phones that do very well with consumers before I trust them, and the Atrix 4G has that pentile screen and slightly laggier UI that I have not really like. If you are looking for the ability to have a full netbook style device with you on the go, the Atrix 4G wins of course because you can attach it to a laptop dock.

Leaving the Mytouch 4g Slide Moving to Samsung Galaxy S2 :D

Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.

bmw2105 said:
Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.
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Bigger is not always better

gtmaster303 said:
Bigger is not always better
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In this case i would have to say so only if it had the hardware keyboard :l lol but ill get over it

Why would someone leave a dual core device with a keyboard, for another dual core device with no keyboard? Beats me
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I still have both devices and because this s2 only cost me 250 off craigslist
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I'm curious... Has T-Mobile started giving S2s as a replacement for our phone yet?
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nope
Samsung Galaxy S2
Mytouch 4g Slide (virtuous premadona)
HD7 (Sold)
Mytouch 4g (Sold)

gtmaster303 said:
Bigger is not always better
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Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.

AndroidBotx said:
Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.
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I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.

Yes. But the DoubleShot is a beaaaaast!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Yes. But the DoubleShot is a beaaaaast!
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Lmfao. Not compared to the SGS2. Its a snail compared to it. The SGS2 is the beast. Bone stock 6500+ antutu scores vs 3000+ the DShot has. The max score ive seen a DS get is 7200 on Antutu thats maxed out OC to 1.782ghz. The SGS2 gets 6000-6500 at 1.2ghz and 8500-9500 OCed to 1.6ghz.

dung8604 said:
I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.
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Exactly. I agree. Couldnt of said it any better.

Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.

marc12868 said:
Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.
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It's an apples to oranges comparison.
The OP was letting us know he was leaving, and almost led to selling his device to me, but ended up getting it to another - that creates purpose for his posting.
The rest of this thread seems to have turned into someone trying to make themselves feel better by trying to put someone else down - don't feed the troll.

AndroidBotx said:
The Doubleshot uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 Processor. The AT&T and Tmobile versions have the Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 Processor and Sprints version uses Samsungs Exynos Processor. The S3 processor can process tasks much faster then the S2 processor thus higher benchmark scores. Not to mention better GPU. The exynos has even better processing power and even better GPU then both S2 and S3 processors. Qualcomm just released the Snapdragon S4 processor found in the american varient of the HTC One X. It has slightly better processing and GPU then the Exynos Processor but not much. Samsungs Hummingbird and Exynos processors have always been better then there competitors. Trust me the DS is not slow by any means but the S3. S4. And Exynos processors are just better.
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The Doubleshot uses an S3 processor. I'm inclined to agree that the GS2 is generally a better phone for most people. I like the Doubleshot better because the keyboard is extremely useful to me and it fits better in my pockets. Also, being able to go directly to the camera through the button has been a lifesaver at times.

I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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mrbmg said:
I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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It's true that it isn't the best keyboard... My java based Rumor Touch had a better physical keyboard when I had it, but the DS is probably one of the most powerful android phones that have a physical keyboard and after using it for a couple months I can type on the keyboard fairly fast and it does seem to give better tactile feedback then when I first got it, it's like it just needed to get broken in. But to each there own. I was used to using an onscreen keyboard since my last 2 phones were just candybar style androids, but it's nice to have a physical keyboard.

The right feel...
IMO, it is all about how the phone feels/performs in your hand and how it meets your demands. The SG S2,for me, feels too fragile/plasticy whereas the DS feels sexy, soft and yet dorable and can go the distance. Phones are like girl friends, you don't have to have the most popular girl, just the one that feels right for you.

Galaxy Nexus vs Galaxy S2/LTE/HD - What to choose...

I know there is a couple threads on here and a few other places but they seem to get side tracked very quick battling between specific features, and most of these threads are in one of the phones sections making the people disusing usually a little bias.
Little info on me. Currently own a samsung captivate (i9000 variant), running cm9 and devil kernel thanks to the amazing dev's here. I've loved all the roms and modification that can be done to this phone.
Now I'm looking into getting a bit newer phone (but mostly likely it will be a used phone)
I really like a phone that is supported by the community here, as they are the ones who bring the latest and greatest.
Keep in mind what is important to me is screen, camera and browsing speeds. Not in that order. And don't care about storage space or gaming.
So the phones I have been looking into are:
Galaxy Nexus - i9250 (TI OMAP 4460, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9, PowerVR SGX540)
Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE - i9210 (international?) i727 Skyrocket (AT&T) / i727R (Rogers) (Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon,Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion,Adreno 220)
Samsung Galaxy S2 - i9100 (international) / i777 (AT&T) (Exynos C210, Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9,Mali-400MP)
Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE HD - E120S (Qualcomm MSM8660 Snapdragon,Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion,Adreno 220)
Basically the between the Nexus and the GS2 but there is so many GS2 variants. I worried if I get a variant then there is less community support for it. Does the Nexus perform better due to all of the code being optimized by google? I would like the speeds of LTE but is it much of a difference? (I plan to go to a store and use an HSPDA phone vs a LTE phone) but it would have to be a GS2 variant.
Galaxy Nexus Pros:
Screen
Supported by google (but that doesn't mean to much with xda supporting the GS2 phones)
GS2 Pros:
Camera? (Supposed to be better at low light and video)
SD Card slot (tho this isn't really a big deal to me at all)
So not taking into account chipset or CPU:
Nexus vs GS2:
Nexus better screen
GS2 better camera
Nexus vs GS2 LTE:
Nexus better screen
GS2 better camera and faster internet
Nexus vs GS2 LTE HD:
Nexus - nothing better?
GS2 - better camera, better screen/equivalent, faster internet (but also higher priced and less common)
Does the CPU manufacturer and/or chipset/GPU make a big impact in performance? I seem to be reading it does but it sounds like opinion not fact when I've read it....
I've been wondering also how the GS2 LTE HD stacks up to the GS3 dual core version, as they have similar specs. Looks like the S3 just has a little bigger screen and a bit better battery life, due to slightly newer Snapdragon CPU.

The Nexus will /always/ have better support from developers than anything else. Nexus phones are incredibly popular and draw huge crowds.
That said, the S2 is also a very popular phone with arguably the second best community support behind it next to the Nexus.
My suggestion would be to go with the Nexus phone simply because you'll get it direct from Google. It's a much more fluid experience. Samsung's custom software is quite a pain, and even if you decide to run custom software on the phone, there are always going to be some aspects (like hardware keys) that don't match Google's current specifications. I'm telling you this as a current AT&T Galaxy Note user, which has the same hardware as the S2 Skyrocket.