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[Q] Need Phones that work on Rogers 3G Network!

hey everybody. if this question is in the wrong place, mods/admins please move to correct thread section.
i am i need of phones that will work on the Rogers hspa 3g network in canada. i right now have a tmobile hd2 running android 2.3 and i got my wife a tmobile mytouch 3g running android 2.2. but from the information i found we will not get the 3g band because the phones 3g frequencies are wrong. can anybody help me confirm that? we right now use them but they are only on the 2g band and our reception is pretty terrible right now. if that is the case can anybody tell me if at&t phones operate 3g on the right frequency for rogers? thanks allot.
im specifically wanting to know if the Samsung Captivate S will work on rogers 3g. thanks!(but if somebody can tell me if most at&t 3g phones will work on rogers that would be greatly appreciated. thanks!)

chk Nexus S
Check out Nexus S ...might be available soon in canada for rogers

yeah the nexus s looks nice, but i still need to know if at&t and rogers operate on the same 3g band. because the tmobile phones we have do not work on the rogers 3g.....

[Q] Sidekick in Canada on Fido

I recently brought an unlocked Sidekick 4G to Canada on Fido and am loving it !

You won't have any luck getting 3G with Fido. The Sidekick 3G was designed for the T-Mobile band of 3G called Band IV or AWS1 (1700/2100MHz), and Fido/Rogers use the Band II (1900/2100MHz).
The only carriers what the Sidekick will work with are Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron which all use the proper band.
I'm usually getting 2Mb/s on Mobilicity with my Sidekick (edge would be 0.3Mb/s), so if you are in their coverage zone you may think about switching provider.

Thanks you guys rock

Give it another year or so and the Band IV 1700/2100 will start to appear more on the Rogers/Fido/Chatr network. Rogers has invested into those bands to try take up all of the roaming rights in Canada after missing out with no revenue from roaming from the 2010 Olympics. The new HDSPA+ and LTE networt for Rogers will use the Band IV 1700/2100 as well as other bands when it launches.

Im going to school in Canada and am also looking to bring an unlocked 4G Sidekick up with me... Does the 4G version work with Wi-Fi even after its unlocked and in Canada? Are all the features accessible like webrowsing, social networks, etc??
Any info would be great. I am with Rogers so apparently that will be compatible with an unlocked version

I use my unlocked Sidekick 4G on Rogers in Canada. Now that rogers has officially rolled out AWS 1700 in the Ottawa region, you willl get 4G there although Rogers data network is exceptionally slow. AWS will be coming to toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, and a couple of other major cities by the end of 2011 according to Rogers. You can visit rogers.com/lte for more info on AWS coverage.

Are you 100% sure that it's using HSPA+ on the AWS1/1700MHz band ?
Their press release mentions using LTE on 1700 but HSPA+ (which they call 4G) on the "regular" 1900 band which is consistent with the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Wireless#HSPA.2B
If you are getting a ~ 120kb/s speed, you are probably using edge and not 3g(or 4g).
By the way their Rocket stick ad http://www.rogerslte.com/new-lte-devices mentions this too:
* AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network
* Tri-band HSPA+ /Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and roaming in over 190 countries

jeromecornet said:
You won't have any luck getting 3G with Fido. The Sidekick 3G was designed for the T-Mobile band of 3G called Band IV or AWS1 (1700/2100MHz), and Fido/Rogers use the Band II (1900/2100MHz).
The only carriers what the Sidekick will work with are Wind, Mobilicity and Videotron which all use the proper band.
I'm usually getting 2Mb/s on Mobilicity with my Sidekick (edge would be 0.3Mb/s), so if you are in their coverage zone you may think about switching provider.
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This is freaking crucial information that should be posted as a sticky, FAQ, or something to let people know. This saved me from trying to troubleshoot for months and from having to buy new sidekick again.
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Anyone using Vodafone? Radio question

Currently on 4.0.4 UCLE2 using Blaze 4g on T-mobile.
Will be heading to Italy soon and want to know if anyone is using the Skyrocket over there and their setup for data.
Oh, and where did the "search" bar go? Swear it was there yesterday but not there today.

how fast is your data on t-mobile SIM and blaze 4g radio ?

I'm seeing on average 3mbps down, and a measly 200kbps up. I would be concerned but I'll be back on Vodafone soon and will save my effort for that network.

it depends on the Italian network frequencies... the skyrocket natively supports 850 1900 and 2100 HSDPA frequencies

[Q] 4G (3.5G) vs 3G speeds (Telus)

I'm a Telus user in metro Vancouver. I can see the cell tower I'm connected to out of my window. Confirmed with Open Signal maps and such.
On my old 3G Motorola Milestone running CM 7.2 Network Signal Info Pro says it is connected as UTMS 14.1 Mbit/s.
My "4G" Samsung Galaxy S (Slimbean 3.1) and HTC Amaze (CM 10.1 nightly feb3) report HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s.
My old Motorola has faster downloads in my tests (yes twice as fast).
I've been fiddling with build.prop and such as well discussed in the forums, but no change on either 4G phone.
I've tried this both out in the 'burbs and downtown Vancouver. Never get better than 7.2 Mbit/s connection on 4G phones.
Any ideas, Telus really have slower 4G than their 3G?
Time to get an S3 LTE?

For those who unlocked & went to TMobile

I do not know if this is allowed and if it is not sorry but it is not a best of thread. I have been having trouble getting good speeds since the switch and have tried numerous combinations but get crappy speeds like .11 mbs down and .12 up
I was wondering what works for you and what speeds are you getting.
Like I said this is by no means a best of thread I just thought this would help others like me who are having trouble getting good speeds on our phones.
Any downloads to the radios not listed in the radios thread would be appreciated.
And if this thread is off limits I am sorry. Just thought I would help us newbies out!!!!!!
Thank you
Jeff

catchjeff said:
I do not know if this is allowed and if it is not sorry but it is not a best of thread. I have been having trouble getting good speeds since the switch and have tried numerous combinations but get crappy speeds like .11 mbs down and .12 up
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What gives me a little pause here is that those settings and radio combinations will yield different results based on where you are located. Do you know anyone in your area with an HSPA+ phone who can run speed tests to compare your speeds against? It could just be that you're in an area with bad backhaul.

two important bits of info are missing what network type is your phone connected with (g e 3g h h+), and what radio are you using?

lart2150 said:
two important bits of info are missing what network type is your phone connected with (g e 3g h h+), and what radio are you using?
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Radios I have used:
Blaze_4G_LB7_ICS
ULCD2
I727-UCMC-NO-CSC-NO-RIL
UCLK4-NO-RIL
UCLL3-NO-RIL
SGH-T989_UVMC6
SGH-T989D_TLMC4
TMO-SGH-T879-UVLG3
TMO_SGH-T909-UVLH1
I AM USING cm10 STABLE
NETWORK TYPE IS hsdpa:8
Hope that helps
Baseband version is unknown

A good first step is to find some friend with a good t mobile hasp+ phone (like galaxy s2 T-Mobile or galaxy nexus for instance) ...See what speeds they're getting on T-Mobile data...If they're not getting good speeds on their phones, you'll never get good speeds obviously...Remember you're using a phone which was made to be used with AT&T....And from my observation most of those who use the SR with T-Mobile they get similar issues like the ones you're describing , t-mobile switched to the 1900mhz spectrum in some areas that would probably help a little, but obviously that's not something that you can do anything about...
If you really need tmobile service, it's best to trade your SR with a tmobile galaxy s2 , at least that I would do if I was in your situation,I don't like buggy phones or services...

Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
It's a long thread but covers this issue pretty well. As far as I can tell there is no hardware-based reason a Skyrocket can't work on Tmobile as well as a dedicated tmobile S2.
I have been using a skyrocket on tmobile for a few months. I couldn't get better than 2G speed until I flashed a new radio and twiddled the apn settings. I get pretty consistent 4G now.

This is what I get using T769UVLH5 radio from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895400
Be sure to thank him:good:

I know you're getting different answers here but if you took an at & t skyrocket it means you have bands 850/1900Mhz for 3g ( don't even think about 4g lte at this point) while tmobl works on 900/1700/2100 3g bands. This means your phone is physically not capable of locking on those bands because it doesn't have them. All it's probably doing is sticking to the old EDGE network since it is a quad band edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app

I do not believe that is the case. The skyrocket radio software limits the available bands. Loading a tmobile radio enables the required frequencies.

i727 freq's:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100

Frequecy Source: GSMARENA
i727 freq's:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Thank you vinocm
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From what I've gathered the skyrocket has the same radios as the Hercules, it just has the added lte hardware. I am on 4.2.2 slim using the le1 radio. Still get random no signal dropouts but not as bad as the others. Think my ril and csc files are wrong so it looks like I have to flash a stock ROM to get them back. Anyone using a stock Hercules ROM?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda app-developers app

Chris J said:
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507825
It's a long thread but covers this issue pretty well. As far as I can tell there is no hardware-based reason a Skyrocket can't work on Tmobile as well as a dedicated tmobile S2.
I have been using a skyrocket on tmobile for a few months. I couldn't get better than 2G speed until I flashed a new radio and twiddled the apn settings. I get pretty consistent 4G now.
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I don't think our channel can do dual channel h+ where the T989 can.
for the others our phone has a penta-band radio it is physically cappable of talking to t-mobile on it's 3g,h,h+ networks just not with the att or rogers radios.