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From the Droid X results and benchmark it seems that Froyo did not do to the Droid X as it did for all the phones that are running snapdragons.
Some people are saying that it's because the JIT was made to run on a snapdragon.
So what is up with the benchmarks? Are we not going to see our CPU speeds increase 3 to 5 folds? Is anyone else curious about this topic?
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i went from linpack for max 9.6 with oc kernal on 2.1 plus voodoo lag fix to 13.9 on froyo, no lag fix etc. so i say its faster.
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i went from linpack for max 9.6 with oc kernal on 2.1 plus voodoo lag fix to 13.9 on froyo, no lag fix etc. so i say its faster.
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Yeah, but how do we score in the 40s and 60s? I hope our ROM authors do a better job than Samsung has.
The Droid X hasn't even been optimized yet, for some reason 2.2 isn't doing what it did to the Nexus one for Droid X and Galaxy.
Voice Search is pretty sweet: "text jenny hey what's up?"... bam, done.
Flash support is neat for certain websites.
Auto-updating apps...
There is alot to froyo than just a speed improvement (although we wish it was more of a speed improvement...)
With JI6(Froyo), OCLF(Lagfix), and rooted I'm pretty much as happy as I can be until cyanogenmod comes out.
I know benchmarks are useless, but the quadrant score I got more than doubled the stock 2.1 score at around 1900.
I haven't played around enough yet to notice any bugs, but nothing significant has jumped out at me. USB tethering and Mobile AP both work.
NO issues here...I don;t use synthetic benchmarks wither in ,my PC builds or on these devices. I go strictly by real word applications. In that regard the user experience shell and speed is better on all counts. GPS showed me 10 Sats today. I never could see more than 6-8 on the best day.
The user interface is 10X better..........
Haha oh yeah, I really want to find out if the Leak (Beta) update is really worth it, just seriously might wait for the actual update. I read in the thread that some people were reporting a CPU clock of 400 Mhz, and just bugs, which "should" be fixed by the actual update
I was really hoping that our CPUs would boost 3 to 5 times as much.
The snapdragons with 2.2 have unbelievable to near incredible results. Their CPU benchmarks have more than triples in most cases.
I'm just really trying to get to the bottom of why the Hummingbird and OMAP seem to lack this potential.
Well it's still just a leak. Hopefully the full Froyo update will roll out at the end of October. A post on the Androidforums has me thinking that end of October is when it will be released.
Regarding the Samsung Dock:
If you search really hard on the Samsung site, you find that that 3.5mm jack is "line out" and won't be functional until the Android 2.2 release.
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And from looking around for the dock, I found two sites that have it for pre-order with estimated availability towards the end of October.
As a former Nexus one owner, I can honestly say that the froyo benchmarks are in no way indicative of real world performance. My linpack went from 7 to 40 and I saw exactly zero speed up in real world daily use. There very few fringe apps that see any increase, mainly games and only a select few of those.
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I had another experience. The performance boost FroYo gave me in Nexus One was very noticeable in "real world" situation.
However, I do fail to see that ratio on Captivate.
Linpack score: 14.031
Froyo be damned, the improvements in the Samsung version of it make it more than worth it.
Well, I see ppl from XDA doesn't interesting so much in O3D. There are only two kernels at the moment: stock and Acurateam beta kernel which is pretty sh$$ty. I see noone want to compile the kernels, noone want to see how can we O/C O3D, or maybe someone want, but he doesn't know how? Write here you opinions
I got mine today.
Maybe this is all due to the fact it's a very recent phone and there aren't yet any developers with one of these.
Anyway, anxiously waiting for CM7 and better kernels.
I believe the reason is also because they're waiting for 2.3
I'm one ****ed up user definitely. The O3D doesn't feel like it is optimized with the so call full dual channels chipsets. The old Android 2.2 make it worse. The 3D is awesome, but using the camera in 3d modes and browsing 3d contents is sluggish. It is a huge frustration to turn on the 3d camera and switching between 3d video. When it is finally able to take the moment, it has already history.
If LG doesn't promise with the gingerbread in Oct, I will feel really ****ed up with LG phones. And even if they will, the flaws might not be fixed. I'm only putting high hope with cyanogenmod with everything working. I give it another 3 months, if nothing changed I will chuck this phone. I've experienced with few android phones, I've never feel so frustrated with a "high end' phone. It is not polished in many ways. My old HTC HD2 ported with Android had way better experience with this phone. This is freaking annoying to me now, and I'm feeling stupid of spending such money for a phone. I'm giving this phone 3 months time!
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from acurateam have worked and are working to bring something better than stock, we are not experts in modification of kernels for android (but we are working hard), we know that this device can take a lot of potential, and try to help with our work, some great developer soon appear, we are studying to improve O3D
With gingerbread longer possible improvements, froyo is simply
The phone itself is great, the biggest problem here is LG and their b*** s***.When I bought the phone I sold my SGS2 and the reason for that was 3D, I didnt expected it would be as fast as SGS2, but it is actually, it is a very nice device.The biggest problem is GB, LG promised it would be out in September, but than they release an update with a 3D converter (what is very nice actually), but doenst fix our performance problem.The problem here is not the device or developers, as I said before the problem here is Froyo and LG.
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I post very rarely, cause I am a very capable leech and can use the search button. In this case I feel like the g2x isn't getting enough love. Yes, in all likelihood we will not be getting official ICS support, but we will get CM9. Even though the 2 cores wont be completely utilized, the tegra2 will probably be faster than that qualcomm SoC. Anyone I know that has moved to the sensation has stated the g2x is a faster device. Anyways, I am using a Cherry Pick cm7 nightly from... that other site, with faux's kernel and decided to give that V6 supercharger a try. It is buttery smooth, no APN problems, no BSOD, battery life under heavy use is incredible. I have used Weapon, White's Miui, EB, Axura, and CM7.1. Take your pick, they are all amazing. We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset. I will now retreat back into my hole. Might be fun just to have a thread not so negative ya know!
I know I might be jumping the ship. I'm on MIUI with faux 4.3 UV kernel and I love this phone. Everything is fast, everything works. However as far as future proof the only reason I am thinking of switching is because of the support. The dev section for the g2x is dying. We have 2 or 3 ROMS that are actually good and get updated frequently. Have you looked at the sensation dev section? There are about 8 active threads. The mytouch 4G(my old phone) is much older than this phone and still has a more active dev section. Its disappointing.
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I agree. Seems as though imo lg and nvidia are the reason. I may be wrong but from what I understand the devs just have a hard time with the drivers they are provided.
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
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Higher processor speed =/= better performance.
That's not how CPUs work.
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I get it, its not as exciting. I had the g1 while it development was peaked. We still got a device that is gonna be future proof long enough to get to the kal-el powered phones. Which is when I will probably think it will be worth upgrading. Remember the software has not yet caught up to this hyper powered hardware. Most of the development so far has gone to getting the operating system to a point where they can start optimizing it. Shadow Gun doesn't even start to flex the power of this chipset. Well, that is my ignorant impression of the android situation.
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I know I'm just saying but we've been able to overclock the gpu too and right now our neocore nemamark etc. scores are high as hell lol get it.... But yeah dont hate and in real world performance its silky smooth. That's what she said xD
Oh and I hope you guys get that devs support you need gl with that
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Hey, I'm not hating, I'm just sayin.'
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We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset.
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+1
I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
You people kill me. How many roms do you intend on running on your phone? You can only run one unless you have dual boot. You talk about the devs abandoning g2x or not enough development. Well what do you want to see that hasent been done? There are nightlies out everyday. Somebody must be developing something. Here's what you do, pick a rom, any rom and stick with it.
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Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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It was the second Android on Verizon. They could let us with foyo and then dropped us they did that phone wrong. It had bad dialer lag that foyo would helped. It was a crap phone.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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Very bad speaker quality I might add also, tho I still loved the heck out of my ol' g1,mt4g.
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon.
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What makes you say that? They backpedaled a bit on the no ICS statement but only so far as to say they were still testing phones for compatibility, which basically means nothing.
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Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
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keep up the great work devs....and remember children will act like children. Do not let the negative kids chase you off. Most of us appreciate the hard work.
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Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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Very well said.
You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? We have CM7 for the AOSP crowd, MIUI for the iPhone lookalikers, and Weapon for stock lovers. Throw in Ultimate for 2.2 and Eaglesblood for minimalism and I really don't see what we're missing out on.
More != better.
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You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? ... More != better.
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Agreed, how often do most people change ROMs anyway? (I'm not talking about nightlies or new versions, but about swapping between say CM7 and MIUI.) I'd rather have a handful of well-developed projects than a dozen or so ones that meander along without ever really completing.
Thanks as well to the devs - loving the work!
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
My unbranded GS2 Miui Exnoys 1.5Ghz OC is pushing 6000 quadrant beat that
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op is right, I am on 182 + Faux CM + v6 charger @ Balance 3, oced @ 1.2 for daily use, smooth like butter. Only problem with Google navigation doesn't auto rotate.
guys i'm to get my new phone probably htc desire s.
But i have a few question from you guys that:
1.Is 768 MB of RAM is enough for you?
2. is there any lag when playing games or by apps?
3. is it future proof?
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guys i'm to get my new phone probably htc desire s.
But i have a few question from you guys that:
1.Is 768 MB of RAM is enough for you?
2. is there any lag when playing games or by apps?
3. is it future proof?
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@1. yes think so. the new sensation xe got the same amount of ram
@2. did not notice any bad lag yet but havent try anything out there and ive just used the branded stock rom
@3. compared to the sensation xe: it just got a singlecore cpu with 1ghz compared to a dualcore with 1,5ghz and a adreno 205 as gpu vs a adreno 220 at the sensation xe. since im no geek i cant tell whether its future proof or not, but the desire s is not that old, prolly up to one year now. imo youre quite good with it atleast i am
hope this helps
Its an adreno 205 and this phone is not futureproof. I wouldn't consider any phone to be futureproof. But I think 768mb ram is enough and games are pretty smooth
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guys i'm to get my new phone probably htc desire s.
But i have a few question from you guys that:
1.Is 768 MB of RAM is enough for you?
2. is there any lag when playing games or by apps?
3. is it future proof?
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1. Yes, I always have about 100MB free with about 150 installed apps and a lot of widgets.
2. Only the really heavy 3D ones (like some games from gameloft); 2D games should be fine. (Look for reviews of the Adreno 205 GPU). Apps generally never lag on this phone.
3. A little. 1GHz is fast, but most new phones have dual core and higher clock rates. Also, I'm not sure if there will be an official Android 4.0 release from HTC, but if you are willing to install custom ROM's that shouldn't be a problem.
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@3. compared to the sensation xe: it just got a singlecore cpu with 1ghz compared to a dualcore with 1,5ghz and a adreno 200 as gpu vs a adreno 220 at the sensation xe. since im no geek i cant tell whether its future proof or not, but the desire s is not that old, prolly up to one year now. imo youre quite good with it atleast i am
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Our Desire S has an Adreno 205 and not the slower 200. However, the 205 still isn't all that fast.
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1. Yes, I always have about 100MB free with about 150 installed apps and a lot of widgets.
2. Only the really heavy 3D ones (like some games from gameloft); 2D games should be fine. (Look for reviews of the Adreno 205 GPU). Apps generally never lag on this phone.
3. A little. 1GHz is fast, but most new phones have dual core and higher clock rates. Also, I'm not sure if there will be an official Android 4.0 release from HTC, but if you are willing to install custom ROM's that shouldn't be a problem.
Our Desire S has an Adreno 205 and not the slower 200. However, the 205 still isn't all that fast.
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oh yeh my fault. the side where i checked it got it wrong
-1: its enough! depending on the rom the launcher works fast and smooth.
-2: i noticed a few lags when playing hd games! but only at the first minutes or when you are downloading other apps in the background.
-3: if we speak of smartphones or electronical devices in general, one can never speak of future proofness. i installed ics from virtous. as a future android version it runs smooth, too.
pls excuse my bad english : )
i hope you get what i wanted to say.
1. It has proved to be plenty of RAM for me. A sign it was not enough would be the Sense launcher re-loading occasionally after exiting a memory-intensive app. Even on a stock ROM this didn’t happen.
2. Have not experienced any lag on the games I play. OK they are not generally the 3D type, and I have not tried GTA3, but Speedx3D runs smooth and that is quite a fast 3D game. Google Navigation, youtube, Netflix, 720p video recording and playback, all run smoothly.
3. No phone is future proof. You’d need to be able to upgrade hardware like a PC for that. Hell these days even PC’s are out-of-date before the cooling fan has had chance to get dusty. What is important is that even after nearly a year of this phone’s availability, development for the DS on XDA is actually speeding up! Not slowing down at all! Seems to be a new ROM each week to try out. There should already be enough for you to play with for your time with this phone. It’s getting some serious love from the ICS devs too, something I’m sure HTC had no intention of officially giving us.
I know several people with dual-core phones, and aside from showing off in benchmark tests, I have yet to meet someone who actually really benefits from having that extra core or can show me something useful that it provides. The only benefit I can think of is improved battery life (the SGS II battery life is excellent), but that is more down to improved chip architecture (plus a bigger battery) not extra processing power.
Personally I also don’t like the 4.7 inch screens as I only have small girl-like hands which includes a 2.5 inch thumb! The DS screen size is perfect for me. The SGS II is painful and frequently see people in my office needing two hands to operate it! Also the build quality on the DS (in my opinion) makes the SGS II look like it came out of a Kinder Surprise.
I have been contemplating what to upgrade to in the summer, and even though MWC has yet to announce all the contenders, even the available ones don’t appeal. They all tout a screen too large to be comfortable, and processing power I simply don’t need. I think I’ll be sticking with my DS until someone puts a phone out there that focuses on battery life improvements and decent camera optics instead of getting blinkered by cramming more and more processing power in. It’s the best phone I’ve ever had and this is the best section on XDA that I have experienced.
Hope I’ve helped.
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Personally I also don’t like the 4.7 inch screens as I only have small girl-like hands which includes a 2.5 inch thumb! The DS screen size is perfect for me. The SGS II is painful and frequently see people in my office needing two hands to operate it! Also the build quality on the DS (in my opinion) makes the SGS II look like it came out of a Kinder Surprise.
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i thing the screen size is the only thing to conciser. in fact is a matter of taste.
otherwise there is no speed or smoothness problem at all. i personally have been using this phone for almost a year now with no complains at all.
plus with the virtuous quattro running so smooth at that stage i cant imagine how good it will be.
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You've come to the bakery to ask if buns are nice my friend.
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LOL! that was a good one! i felt just like that when i read through this thread!
wnp_79 made good points, too! i think that was the most useful post here.
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1. It has proved to be plenty of RAM for me. A sign it was not enough would be the Sense launcher re-loading occasionally after exiting a memory-intensive app. Even on a stock ROM this didn’t happen.
2. Have not experienced any lag on the games I play. OK they are not generally the 3D type, and I have not tried GTA3, but Speedx3D runs smooth and that is quite a fast 3D game. Google Navigation, youtube, Netflix, 720p video recording and playback, all run smoothly.
3. No phone is future proof. You’d need to be able to upgrade hardware like a PC for that. Hell these days even PC’s are out-of-date before the cooling fan has had chance to get dusty. What is important is that even after nearly a year of this phone’s availability, development for the DS on XDA is actually speeding up! Not slowing down at all! Seems to be a new ROM each week to try out. There should already be enough for you to play with for your time with this phone. It’s getting some serious love from the ICS devs too, something I’m sure HTC had no intention of officially giving us.
I know several people with dual-core phones, and aside from showing off in benchmark tests, I have yet to meet someone who actually really benefits from having that extra core or can show me something useful that it provides. The only benefit I can think of is improved battery life (the SGS II battery life is excellent), but that is more down to improved chip architecture (plus a bigger battery) not extra processing power.
Personally I also don’t like the 4.7 inch screens as I only have small girl-like hands which includes a 2.5 inch thumb! The DS screen size is perfect for me. The SGS II is painful and frequently see people in my office needing two hands to operate it! Also the build quality on the DS (in my opinion) makes the SGS II look like it came out of a Kinder Surprise.
I have been contemplating what to upgrade to in the summer, and even though MWC has yet to announce all the contenders, even the available ones don’t appeal. They all tout a screen too large to be comfortable, and processing power I simply don’t need. I think I’ll be sticking with my DS until someone puts a phone out there that focuses on battery life improvements and decent camera optics instead of getting blinkered by cramming more and more processing power in. It’s the best phone I’ve ever had and this is the best section on XDA that I have experienced.
Hope I’ve helped.
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I love you for this post man!! (all platonic, of course )
This was an amazing insight into our device, and phones in general...what did me in was your closing sentence...
" It’s the best phone I’ve ever had and this is the best section on XDA that I have experienced. " - I have to say you echo my thoughts verbatim! Was looking for an upgrade too, and had almost decided to jump in for the Galaxy Note (I know it's not exactly a phone - that was kinda the point, but i digress...) but i just can't come to terms with having to give up this phone.
And do you know what the primary cause for that is? It's this community and all of you guys. I wouldn't be able to give it all up and move away...I know some of you so well, it's almost like family...or old school friends (they know who they are). Hell, i miss zeekiz since he's moved off to the Galaxy Nexus !
I love this phone and i love this community, and no Quad core is going to make me sell this phone. I will always keep this device...if only to stay on these pages.....
Thank you enigmaamit! Yes I'll also feel sad when the day comes to move to another device. I may even break with my tradition of selling my old phone on eBay, and keep the DS so I can still test for people, and pop back to say hi every now and then. That'll be months away though.
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Group hug guys...
But seriously, I really hope that HTC haven't forgot about Desire line. Same form factor, dual core (make it quad) anyone?
Oh yeah... I am keeping mine as well. Everyone needs a trusty backup phone.
bronx said:
Group hug guys...
But seriously, I really hope that HTC haven't forgot about Desire line. Same form factor, dual core (make it quad) anyone?
Oh yeah... I am keeping mine as well. Everyone needs a trusty backup phone.
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Same form factor and with half an inch bigger display squeezed in, what about that?
Naaah... My thumb is too short for additional 1/2 inch.
I read something earlier about a forthcoming phone that's called (at the moment) the HTC primo, dual core, 3.7" screen but only 512mb ram,ics sense 4.0. It was on the stufftv website I think. Is this the replacement for the desire s?
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I have a hunch that it is rather wildfire s successor... I bloody hope so...
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I'm currently still using the original HTC Desire and I think it's time for me to retire it. It still works great but have been running low on memory for last 6 months and it's got the to point where I use all my apps and don't want to delete anymore.
Been researching around and considered the Sensation and Galaxy s2 but having had a play on both today they're too big for my tiny hands. So the research continues and I think I may have found my next phone in the form of the DS! I do have a question though - is there actually 1.1gb of space for apps or is less than that after taking into account the memory needed for UI/processor? Sorry I don't know that much about the techy side of things so excuse my lack of knowledge in my quest of finding my next phone I've also been making notes of new apps I can download!
I know this phone is now almost a year old and not that much of a leap from the Desire but that's also part of its charm. Plus the pricing is about right.
Thanks for your help
who_me said:
Hello Happy Helpful People
I'm currently still using the original HTC Desire and I think it's time for me to retire it. It still works great but have been running low on memory for last 6 months and it's got the to point where I use all my apps and don't want to delete anymore.
Been researching around and considered the Sensation and Galaxy s2 but having had a play on both today they're too big for my tiny hands. So the research continues and I think I may have found my next phone in the form of the DS! I do have a question though - is there actually 1.1gb of space for apps or is less than that after taking into account the memory needed for UI/processor? Sorry I don't know that much about the techy side of things so excuse my lack of knowledge in my quest of finding my next phone I've also been making notes of new apps I can download!
I know this phone is now almost a year old and not that much of a leap from the Desire but that's also part of its charm. Plus the pricing is about right.
Thanks for your help
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yeah i think we get the full 1.1 gb ,not sure though
the extra 256mb helps
the adreno 205 is a huge improvement from the adreno 200(especially after the new drivers in ICS)
but having said that there will be better dualcore phones at a similar price point soon
Well if you can wait until the end of month, you might wanna see what HTC has in store this year.
There's the rumoured HTC Primo (3.7" WVGA) which i think is somewhat the Desire S successor with less RAM.
And then there's the HTC Ville (4.3" qHD) & Edge (4.7" HD).
But if you're getting it now, you can get it at a much cheaper price than we got when it came out last year.
Due to unfortunate circumstances I have had to let my Note go recently. I have a blackberry in use right now. I thought I could use it until I was able to save to buy a proper phone but I do not think I could wait that long!!! Every time I look at it, I want to throw up. It is TERRIBLE!!!
SO I ordered a nice used Nexus S i9020a ATnT version on ebay (great rom support!!!). I was just wondering, as its a single core device with "just" 512mb ram, does it perform satisfactorily for general use and gaming etc on JB?
Thanks guys.
running smooth on my NS4G.
maybe you can flash CM9
CptAwesomeTT said:
Due to unfortunate circumstances I have had to let my Note go recently. I have a blackberry in use right now. I thought I could use it until I was able to save to buy a proper phone but I do not think I could wait that long!!! Every time I look at it, I want to throw up. It is TERRIBLE!!!
SO I ordered a nice used Nexus S i9020a ATnT version on ebay (great rom support!!!). I was just wondering, as its a single core device with "just" 512mb ram, does it perform satisfactorily for general use and gaming etc on JB?
Thanks guys.
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You will be satisfied as long as you are not expecting it to run like some supersonic dual core device. Keep in mind it is old technology and JB drives the phone to about its max but their is some wonderful JB roms and kernels out there for the Nexus S.
I wouldn't recommended it for gaming but its a good daily driver. Jellybean really makes it worth it....
Runs great on my NS4G.
I use CodeNameAndroid's ROM with the latest stable AIR kernel installed from CWM Recovery. Even just added the 4.2 Google Apps earlier and it runs great. SavagedZen/SIO combo seem to be the smoothest for me. I can get better battery life with different combos, but not worth it to deal with micro-delays in input for me. I'm a little :silly: I know.
I don't use my phone for gaming other than simple "phone style" games anyways, so no comment there.
Video playback, and music with screen off works great.
UI is super smooth and responsive.
I have it clocked to 200 Mhz to 1.2 Ghz and slightly undervolted. It is super stable.
It gets about 2-3 hours straight of screen on while browsing the net via Wi-Fi at home (someone in my family is always on it), but will last about 12 hours when used normally. I probably get 30 minutes to an hour of talk time a day, check my email every couple hours, use the navigation once or twice, and always have GPS, Data, and 4G on (Sprints 3G is slow here).
If I turn off all data and use it strictly as a phone while out and about it lasts a long time. Probably a day and a half.
Plus it has had countless ROM's flashed and is still kicking, sometimes dozens in a single night... LMAO. I recently did something so it doesn't transfer files over USB anymore though, trying to figure that out right now.
[ROM] [NS4G] [AOSP] 4.1.2-JZO54K- Updated 10/13/12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811491
So far, that is the best ROM for me. Very fast and very 'compatible'.
wow thank you guys for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. Looking forward to receiving my second Nexus device.
I have nothing but great experiences with my Nexus 1 a couple years back.
If this experience is as good as I think it would be, I might go back to a pure Android device, rather than an Android powered one!
skola28 said:
[ROM] [NS4G] [AOSP] 4.1.2-JZO54K- Updated 10/13/12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811491
So far, that is the best ROM for me. Very fast and very 'compatible'.
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Umm didn't you say you bought the at&t version? I'm new to the nexus s line but I thought the 4g sprint version ROMs only work for that phone.
Just make sure you flash the right version ROM/kernel for your phone.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
I think the Note is a great tablet phone. If you had installed SlimBean on your Note you would have been happy. If you don't want to be disappointed with the Nexus S, I suggest SlimBean.
Kernel!
I went through several JB ROMs and kernels on my NS (Stock, CM10, Slim, Trinity, Matr1x) and finally settled on a combo of AOKP JB M1, Marmite 6.7.9 and smartassV2. I also disabled all frivolous animations and transitions. The phone is now a rocket!
I flashed the 4.2 Gapps and they all work fine too, except for Google Now, which can't seem to access my location service.
Don't play hard core games on this thing. It's good for the occasional Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja, but that's it.
It's a great phone and so is your decision to buy it based on community support!
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Aalaap.
help me
I have nexus s i9020A, it is AT&T
android version 2.3.4
how can i get unlocked and update?
u guys take care of my f.king phone. plss help.
have a look at this guide -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782 :cyclops:
and give the Q&A Section a go -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882815
rgds sah
Beautifully IMO. The ROMs being developed have given me full use of my phone and have actually kept me from spending the coin on upgrading again.
Just an FYI
I recently flashed BlackBean6.0 and Matr1x kernel and had lots of weird problems. I flashed to AIRr2 stable kernel and it still had a bunch of freezes and random restarts, now my device is softbricked
Stay away from that combo
The bottom line and MOST significant thing here is that nexus S is now easily the fastest single core android phone. Phones with 768MB ram will have an edge in gaming but with ICS or GB they are not going to have the same system wide speed.
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The bottom line and MOST significant thing here is that nexus S is now easily the fastest single core android phone. Phones with 768MB ram will have an edge in gaming but with ICS or GB they are not going to have the same system wide speed.
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Very true, most of my friends have dual core phones with giant screens and 1GB of RAM... They all compliment my phone a lot everytime someone ends up using it for anything. They can't even tell it has half (literally) of the horsepower in all areas. It still has one of the best looking screens by far also. I can't stand Motorola or HTC screens (haven't seen the newest HTC phones though) with that greyish polarization you get when you tilt it at all... Yuck.
And some say it's boring, but I love the all black, mostly unadorned look with the slight curve to it. The curve makes it nicer in my pocket on my face and in my hand. I don't want a perfect brick. I don't want any bigger either, 4" is perfect for me. I have big hands and can JUST barely use it with one hand. And I agree with Apple on ONE THING... I feel a mobile device that requires two hands for anything more than games IS STUPID.
I wish they made an NS4G with Nexus 4 or even Galaxy Nexus specs, and a rubberized back. I would snatch it up in a heartbeat.
JB 4.1.2 is working great on my i9020a! With CM10 and Marmite 7.1.2, it's a happy machine. I kind of want a Nexus 4, but with the huge demand and low stock, I'm still happy using my old Nexus S.