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TRRS Pinouts for Desire-like proper headphones without issues of direct plugging in

Sup all would anyone have the actual TRRS pinouts for the audio jack for the desire I would like to make a up a lead that will allow me to plug an ordinary pair of headphones in using a proper TRRS jack instead of a TRS jack. thanks. There are definately issues plugging in a headphone directly or maybe it is my unit faulty?
Edited, this topic will show you the best way to connect your headphones to your desire as some people will experiance problems with pluggin in normal 3.5 jack plug headphones, this is due to the desire using a trrs socket for the microphone instead of a trs socket that normal headphones use.

pretty sure it is:
tip - left audio
ring 1 (closest to tip) - right audio
ring 2 - data of some kind
shield - ground
Hope this helps

cheers for that, im having some peeps tell me that i can just plug in an ordinary pair of headphones into the phone without any ill effects, i am concerned that i will have a problem because headphones are trs jacks and the desire has the trrs 3.5 jack. can anyone confirm any details on this for me please

nah you can use a normal TRS 3.5mm jack with no problems. I guess that when you use a normal TRS jack then shield and ring 2 on the connector are both connected to shield on the jack so it adjusts the software accordingly. But yea, no problems.

cheers for that
edited, we have since discovered that this is not the case, please read the entire topic for the correct way to connect headphones to the desire.

standard 3,5 mm (TRS) headphones DO CAUSE ISSUES
Was about to resend my HTC Desire, because it randomly called, skipped music stopped the music, FM-radio freeze etc. from the moment I connected my high-end 3,5mm headphone (TRS type: 3 contacts).
No issues with the standard headset delivered with the HTC Desire (TRRS type: 3,5mm 4 contacts).
So, you might need a TRS -> TRRS adapter.
Anyone with other experiences???

Basically what I have found is that many of the normal headphones are not working correctly because it is a trrs socket that is used. To me this would mean that normal headphones shouldnt be used, I have tried various headphones but there are definately issues with them,
The main issue I was having was as you have said above and also the base wasnt right with them
I have since bought this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130384433476&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
which arrive today and when I am using this in conjunction with my headphones I now have the proper base to the set and NONE of the problems I was having when i was plugging them into the phone directly......... they just didnt sound right, now using griffin smarttalk this i can definately tell the difference now especially in the base, also this unit will lower the volume and allow you to make a call automatically with built in mike, clicking it twice doesnt skip the track suggested instead it will ring the last number dialled in the phone so a bonus actually to me
the straight adapters ie trrs to trs are very nearly the same price as this if not more expensive so i would recommend this all day long to you. At £9.75 delivered bargain m8, bought late evening on the 20th arrived this morning what more can i say, but if you are having issues it is definately in my eyes because of the difference in the trrs socket to the trs socket,
the base is fantastic on this phone now, before it was terrible, now i just need an equaliser to remove some of it

When you speak of "normal headphones", are you referring to simple 3.5 TRS headphones, or headphones with a mic ?
Cause if the majority of the headphones (without mic I mean) won't properly work with the Desire, it's a major flaw according to me.

I confirm: TRS (3 contacts, without mic) do not work...
...I tried 4 different 3,5mm stereo headsets (TRS type, 3 pole, without mic). NONE of them worked correctly (phenomenons as described above).
When you plug a 3 pole TRS headphone in the Desire 4 pole TRRS headphone output, a short circuit is generated between the first 2 internal contacts (seen from connector input: ground + control line).
I suspect that the Desire firmware cannot detect/handle this situation, and so it causes random actions (prev, next, call numbers, stop, play, ....)
I suspect that this issue could be solved with a firmware upgrade....

there is no way they would release hardware with a 3.5mm socket that you cant plug a 3.5mm jack into right? the firmware does detect when you use a TRS instead of a TRRS. You get a different icon on your notification bar for each of them. As ive said before my AKG's have worked perfectly so far and have shown none of the problems listed above.

This afternoon I quickly tested my Seinheiser PX100 headphones with a friend's desire and the Htc music player.
It worked flawlessly. Volume was good and it didn't play/pause/skipped tracks.
As I said it was a really quick test so I can't say for sure that everything's was okay.
Nonetheless apparently a lot of people experienced problems with numerous headphones. To me it's really a shame you can't even plug ANY 3.5mm jack headphones with the desire ...
I hope a software update could fix this.

I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939

I think this might be an issue of certain cables not making a full connection due to the shape of the case surrounding the socket. I had no problems with my headphones, sound was good and loud enough although I could see how it might not be loud enough for some.
I did start having issues when I plugged the aux lead in my car into the phone. The lead has a large shroud that obstructed the plug from being plugged all the way in. This gave the same problems as described in other posts, skipping tracks and also crashing the music software at one point.
I replaced the lead with another that had a better fit and the problems went away but I did notice when I leaned against the lead while it was playing music in my car it started skipping track again.
I wonder what HTC have to say about this....

DHel01 said:
I also had this problem when connecting my Desire to my car radio using an standard 3.5mm AUX cable. Will this cable solve my problem or will my car radio not be able to recognize a 4 pole cable?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/3-5mm-Male-TRRS-...erAccess_RL&hash=item5d28c530c1#ht_1252wt_939
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I solved those problems with this lead- i dont think the one your showing will work for you
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220593400305
they come from china etc however only 5 days to arrive from ordering.
and I now enjoy trouble free music. I also have ordered the Griffin Smart Talk so i can listen to my headphones and be able to answer the phone as well however I didnt want to use it for plugging into a car stereo etc etc so i wanted a straight lead conversion.
Just a quick warning the first lead i ordered from this person was faulty, however i had also ordered 3 other leads from the same person as an after thought which were all perfect.. as they are only pennies it is worth ordering one or two spare for redundancy purposes. I decided to order 3 as backups more in case i broke one and the person stopped selling them etc etc
These leads will allow you to connect the htc to any other source including external speakers which didnt work when putting them in normally but did work when i used this cable in conjunction with it.
this cable is a trrs to trs jack plug and is used to convert a 4 pin socket to a 3 pin socket jack plug.

I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.

Re: TRRS Pinouts for Desire
I've used some headphones, and 2 different aux connector for the cars and all 3 work absolutely perfectly. No issues at all.
Sent from my HTC Desire

I have been using my Yuin PK3 earbuds for music since I got my Desire and it has been working without any problems.

TheOriginalKi said:
I've been using a pair of JVC Gummy Air on my Desire since I got it, not a single problem.
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Oh yeah and I've also hooked it into the tv via a standard audio cable!

Not sure what you guys are talking about but my AIAIAI headset works fine with the Desire
Mic working too!
aiaiai.dk/headsets/tracks-headsets/tracks-headset-black.html
^those

Sennheiser PXC 250 with NR, no problems

[HARDWARE PROBLEM] Headphone jack static/hiss noise?

Hey guys,
I bought a One X recently, and I am noticing some static/hiss/noise coming from the headphones.
I tried connecting my One X to bigger speakers, and the noise is more noticeable this way. This is an odd issue, because none of my other phones behave this way.
The funny thing is, if you play music or notification noises play when the phone is connected to speakers, the noise goes away. But after one second, when the DAC shuts off, the noise comes back again.
My friend's One X has this problem as well, so I don't think I just have a lemon here.
Other forums seem to be talking about this issue as well
http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/htc-one-x-help/300-htc-one-x-sound-issues-headphones.html
http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/htc-one-x-help/327-sound-issue.html
I found one review that mentions this issue. They talk about it in the Beats Audio section, and there's a video with the noise.
http://www.tekgadg.com/home/2012/6/15/htc-one-x-rogers-review.html
I remember using a really cheap chinese knockoff mp3 player about 8 years ago, and the One X seems to have the same problem as that mp3 player. Could it be that the One X has a cheap DAC in it that causes this noise?
Anyone else experience this problem?

The first link is about the international version, the lte one x is technically the One XL, and this is the first time hearing about this. Mine doesn't have a problem and I listen to music all the time.
Just and idea possibly cheap headphones?
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

My music is crystal clear, probably one of the best quality sound outputs I've heard from a phone actually.

Mine has this problem, but I only notice when I hook it up to my car speakers (with an aux cable) and not with headphones (Bose). It's a lot more pronounced when the phone is plugged into usb as well. Once sound plays though, the hissing stops completely. It's only when there is no output that the hiss is present.
Edit: Could it possibly be interference from the cellular radio? Maybe once the DAC kicks in it filters out the interference?
Edit 2: Just read the 3rd link and yeah, my speculation seems to have some validity
"Adding insult to injury, HTC One X features a badly shielded headset jack that makes noise whenever it is hooked up to sensitive speakers. We compared it to high-end and low-end phones, and none of them made the annoying static noise that the One X makes. This isn't a serious problem for people who only listen to music through headphones, but you may want to stay away from the One X if you are thinking about playing music through it with big speakers."

I had the same problem. If you are rooted, disable beats audio notify with titanium backup. I did this and use power amp with custom eq settings and do not notice any hiss whatsoever.
Sent from my HTC One XL using XDA

Same problem here. WAY worse when plugged in and in my car. On regular headphones no problem. In my car it's huge. To me it reeked of a poor ground somewhere, to the point that I thought my unit was defective. If it were a shielding problem I would think it would be an issue all of the time, not just when the thing is "inactive" (ie not driving the jack). I've "disabled" beats to the extent that I can without rooting, and it had no noticeable difference.
Glad to hear it's not just me.

I notice the problem when I use both the microUSB charger and headphone jacket. Disconnect the charger cable usually solves my problem. Now, I switched to use BT car adapter instead of aux cable and I can use car charger without noise.

The problem is called BEATS AUDIO!
scroll to the bottom
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p5.php

designgears said:
The problem is called BEATS AUDIO!
scroll to the bottom
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p5.php
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I still get the hiss despite disabling Beats (as in just turning it off in the notification shade), although it is definitely not as bad as having Beats turned on. I'll freeze HTCBeatsNotify and see if it helps on the way to work tomorrow morning.

stnguyen09 said:
I still get the hiss despite disabling Beats (as in just turning it off in the notification shade), although it is definitely not as bad as having Beats turned on. I'll freeze HTCBeatsNotify and see if it helps on the way to work tomorrow morning.
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Sadly beats audio is integrated beyond what you can turn off in settings.

so, the only solution is to root the phone and completely kill Beats Audio?
I guess it's not a hardware problem then... Man, that sucks. Has this issue been brought to light by some big sites yet? We need to do something so HTC learns from this mistake.

By the way, here's the update I promised...
Like I said before, I disabled beats from the notification pulldown but the hiss was still there, although slightly less annoying. I froze HTCBeatsNotify (or whatever the actual name is) using TiBu so Beats doesn't even show up when I plug it in. Unfortunately, the hiss is still there at the same level it was at when I just disabled Beats from the notification pulldown.
Is Beats actually integrated into the hardware? Is the "poorly shielded headphone jack" mentioned in one of the OP's links still a valid assumption? Can someone running CM9/AOKP chime in on whether they get the hiss?
Edit: Before I head home today I'll go into Airplane mode to try to rule out the headset jack shielding.

Annnnd of course my experiment failed...hiss is still there

If the headphone jack is indeed poorly shielded, couldn't it pick up interference from anything? Not just the internal radios?
This means we'll have to go into some radio-free environment in order to determine whether it's the headphone jack or Beats Audio that causes this annoying hiss.
In either case, I'm disappointed in HTC.

ai4281 said:
If the headphone jack is indeed poorly shielded, couldn't it pick up interference from anything? Not just the internal radios?
This means we'll have to go into some radio-free environment in order to determine whether it's the headphone jack or Beats Audio that causes this annoying hiss.
In either case, I'm disappointed in HTC.
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Well I mean, the internal radio would be the strongest signal in the immediate area that would cause interference. Just look at old, poorly shielded computer speakers, they had issues only when a phone would go off within maybe a yard of them. I was in a parking garage at the time I tested and I'm not sure if there was anything else around that would be powerful enough to cause the interference.
Also something I noticed which may lend credence to the DAC being the source of the issue...Just plugging my phone into usb and having the headphone jack attached does not produce as much interference as when I'm streaming from Google Music and it gets caught buffering. As in, when the DAC would still be active but no audio is output. The hiss during that situation is quite a bit worse than just having the phone sit there not doing anything.

Since Beats is just a glorified equalizer, it could be that Beats just happens to be boosting the sound frequencies of the hiss and making it sound louder, and not the actual source of the hiss itself. So maybe it is a hardware issue.

Again, I can't imagine ti being "poor shielding" because that would not immediately go away once you started playing music. Think about typical cell phone interference from a radio. You're playing music, and you hear that "bvvvvrerrerrr" sound.
In the case of the HTC, as soon as you start playing music, the hum goes away IMMEDIATELY and completely as far as I can tell. If shielding were the problem it wouldn't it still be distorted regardless of whether the jack was actively playing anything or not?
Seems more to me that the DAC is leaving some signals floating, leaving them susceptible to noise, when it's not active, when it should be pulling them to a known state (probably ground)

Not from DAC either. If you plug in a headphone, you will not hear these noises. It seems only occur when you plug into AUX import of car or amps.
So, it is a hardware design problem that causes dirty interference escaped into audio output. When you plug in a normal headphone, it has very low impendence and the noise will not get amplifed at all. If you plug it into an AUX import, it will have a much higher impendence and hence the noise get carrier over and amplified.

foxbat121 said:
Not from DAC either. If you plug in a headphone, you will not hear these noises. It seems only occur when you plug into AUX import of car or amps.
So, it is a hardware design problem that causes dirty interference escaped into audio output. When you plug in a normal headphone, it has very low impendence and the noise will not get amplifed at all. If you plug it into an AUX import, it will have a much higher impendence and hence the noise get carrier over and amplified.
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Your explanation makes perfect sense. This seems to be the issue.

foxbat121 said:
Not from DAC either. If you plug in a headphone, you will not hear these noises. It seems only occur when you plug into AUX import of car or amps.
So, it is a hardware design problem that causes dirty interference escaped into audio output. When you plug in a normal headphone, it has very low impendence and the noise will not get amplifed at all. If you plug it into an AUX import, it will have a much higher impendence and hence the noise get carrier over and amplified.
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ai4281 said:
Your explanation makes perfect sense. This seems to be the issue.
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I think we have a winner!

[Q] Headphone Jack Problems (w/ Solutions)

Hey XDA, I have a question about my headphone jack on my HTC One X+ (ATT Carrier, Rooted w/ Custom Rom)
NOTE: This is not life or death - but may be interesting for some developers...
I've been using the headphones and their "beats audio" for quite sometime (4 weeks).
Randomly, the headphone jack cut out and stopped working with my mic enabled headphones.
-->The headphones worked on other music devices.
Tried another pair of mic enabled headphones
--> They worked!
Tried another pair of non mic enabled headphones
--> DIDN'T WORK!
Tried my pair of mic enabled headphones
--> Still didn't work...
Tried the same model (as mine) of mic enabled headphones
--> Worked...
So, I went about factor resetting my phone, trying a few different roms, and all that jazz. No success with my headphones (which work on my brother's HTC One X+) Here's another weird thing, using my beats studios I switched cable direction and they worked. Thinking this may have been a 'headphone' issue. I used a micrometer and measured all of the jack inputs... they are basically identical (Mic enabled differing from non mic of course).
My guess is that my phone software isn't recognizing some of the headphones for some reason.
It's not a huge deal as I have a few pairs that work fine with it and can always use SoundAbout if I really want to force audio through my pair.
Anyway, if anybody has an idea as to what's going on - let me know!
If you are having HTC Headphone/Jack/Beats problems:
--> download SoundAbout from the PlayStore and you can force your headphone jack to work.
--> try different headphones, different models, and mic'd or non mic'd pairs
--> Flash and reset your phone... may be software
--> Take it to a phone tech or get it replaced :good:
Best of luck.

Did you mean to post this in the One X+ area?

[Q] Jack Audio 3.5 Problem

Hi, i recently bought a skyrocket, everything work fine, except the audio jack's a little bit touchy. I tested on stock rom from samsung (jelly been) and on avatar rom, so i suppose the problem's hardware.
The problem's when i insert my earplug jack, i can only heard from the left side. I need to maintain and push the jack for earing completly stereo. If i remove the jack a little bit, it work stereo but with fade sound. It do the same thing with a 3.5 stereo and 3.5 stereo+micro version. Is there any fix or something for this device ? Should i try to open it and move the headphone jack ? Do anyone got the same problem too ?
Thx for answering, i could not find anything related to this device. Sorry for my bad english.

Headphone Jack Issue

Hello,
A few days ago my earphones were working fine in my lenovo P2 but then one day it started to produce muffled sound.
I pulled the headphone jack up a little bit and after some twists only the right side was producing normal music. The headphones are working fine in computer and tried some other headphones also but the problem persists. I even tried the headphones that came with the phone but they are also having the same issue. The strange thing is that my other headphone Sennheiser HD 203 (I think it is one ring jack while the other headphones are 4 ringed) is working fine in it. What could be the issue.
Thanks

I also had the muffuling issue.
I had the issue from the stock ROM only, then went to Oreo but it was still their thou my fix was simple.
I flashed the lineage os 7.1.2 provided by @Wonder Wicked Witch and the problem is gone....do try this BTW everything is working on the ROM.
So do try it.I am currently using it.

I suggest a Hardware caused problem.
Check for collections of dust, hair and other debris that got stuck in the headphone jack. Use pliers to get it out.
Because "normal" headphones work fine and ones that go deeper in (with mic or controls ) don't, I really suggest you check that, because all the dust gets stuffed in to the end of the port, so jacks that aren't as long won't have any issue.

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Hi. I have a audio problem in my Lenovo p2. The audio is very bad when using a normal earphones, but when I use an Universal earphones like Ubon etc etc., it has the setting in it which makes the audio good. The big problem is that I cannot use any other normal earphones instead I have to use universal earphones like UBON universal earphones. Please help me out with this. I have tried factory reset also many times, the issues is still the same.