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Samsunng Infuse 4g Android 4.0

Am I the only one thinking/hoping that we are getting Ice Cream Sandwich??? I mean it releases on October 11124 and we still don't have gingerbread you know? This is just hopeful thinking... it would be nice to have the absolute latest OS and features though
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Doubt it. We'll probably get Ginger in a week or two and come next year sometime, we'll get icecream.maybe.
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Nah... ATT is just slow.

Thumb rule: We are always a release behind

I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.

bscotth said:
I don't mean to be pessimistic but that sounds very unlikely.
Maybe in the long run, but even that seems unlikely since new phones are coming out all the time.
Also, Samsung hasn't expressed much love for the Infuse so I doubt they would spend much time making an official ICS ROM for it.
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Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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Chances of ICS on the Infuse - extremely slim.
They're pretty good for the GSII though.

Just hope for a leak.

KingVekxin said:
Yea I see what you're saying but I mean something should click in there heads to update a great phone with great firmware, jus makes it better...
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It's all about marketing man. Update a phone less, spend money advertising for a better phone (SGSII) and finally get a higher return in $.
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Hell no...
Ex captivate owners will tell you...
People forget that the captivate came with eclair and that gingerbread was released before the captivate even got froyo...
No we will not get ice cream sandwich before gingerbread ...
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I read a lot of places, sorry i do not have the links, that once they have it, it should work with anything, just the software mods itself when it is installed on the phone/tablet/computer (if they make any). It sounds pretty out there, but it is nice to dream. If it would work, then the only updates that the phones would need from the carriers/manufacturers are the modems and kernels.

I would say yes way down the line but the sgs2 is gonna get all the love
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I took the OP as are we gonna see 4.0 before 2.3.....and that answer is a big fat no....
Are we gonna get ICS at some point? Probably ...
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im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk

Who cares..., am I the only one who thinks that AAAALLLLL the OS's look the freaking Sam with a different number? Its like with my infuse when we went from froyo to "gingerbread" the only real advantage I noticed was a couple of features added, like tthe FRONT facing camera working with Skype, and other silly stuff like that. For instance, MIUI is a whole new beast on its own but speed dial option is eluding me lol
I guess I'm more or less rudely asking for a bonus feature list from ICS.
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The Infuse is the new Optimus, aka poor mans smart phone. I had a customer tell me today he wouldnt give 2 squirts of piss for the Infuse, that pretty much sums it up.

steezinstangl said:
im probably wrong, but im for sure i read somewhere saying that ICS was gunna be an operating system that was like for all android phones? what i mean is that ICS is gunna be one platform for all android phones like iOS for the iphone. idk
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"all" in the generic sense - instead of having 2.x for phones and 3.x for tablets, 4.0 will support both phones and tablets.
However, every device that Android runs on needs customizations specific to the hardware. In many cases, those hardware drivers/libraries are closed source so it's not easy to port them unless the manufacturer does.
"all" in this case means a manufacturer can do a device bringup of 4.x on a tablet or a phone. But someone still needs to do the device bringup, and on a device with lots of closed-source proprietary bits, device bringup can be difficult if not impossible. Look at the state of CM7 for example - it didn't really get off the ground until Rogers released Gingerbread because the Froyo libraries weren't compatible with Gingerbread, and even with the Rogers proprietary bits, some things still don't work.

If it comes to the Infuse it won't be before May. Probably closer to a year from now.
The joys of fragmentation.
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Icecream Sandwick
I want icecream but For now I think i am going to stick to dlev rom cause it runs great.

Patience...it's coming
Alot of people don't really understand the process of releasing an OS update for an android. From what I can gather, Google releases the OS to the manufacturers which then tailor it to the individual phones. Then they release it to the providers (AT&T, Sprint etc.) which tailor it to their network and pollute it with bloatware. When they're sure it's somewhat error free, they release it to us.
AT&T for example, is frantically trying to finish their version, but they obviously have an issue or two...or twenty...who knows. They have to finish it, compile it, then do test updates, then test the updates and pray it worked. It takes time. I am far from patient so I already installed the GB 2.3.5 leak and can honestly say it's a major improvement. Bluetooth works better, everything is faster, and those annoying lags whenever you do a level 2 memory clear or detach the USB are fixed. But the leak has its issues, so I'm giving AT&T the benefit of the doubt and waiting to see if the mid October release actually happens. But since they lied and failed to deliver in September, I'm not holding my breath.
As far as ICS is concerned, I doubt AT&T has even had a chance to look at it yet. I would be amazed if we saw it this time next year. But we will get it. LOTS of people have the Infuse so it's not going to be left out or treated like a forgotten step-child like some people claim. It's a great phone with one of the nicest, biggest displays you can get, and it runs anything you throw at it even with its single core processor. What makes the Infuse bad is forcing it to run on AT&T.

Ice Cream Sandwich For Milestone

Here is the inevitable question, given yesterday's event. I have been researching and it seems the tech requirements for ICS are the same as those for Gingerbread. Of course, given how Gingerbread has been very heavy on the Milestone, I know that even a moderate increase in tech requirements would be too much on the Milestone. But does it have a chance in any way? And can we backport some of the features (e.g. new Copy-Paste) to CM6 and CM7?

bandroid842 said:
Here is the inevitable question, given yesterday's event. I have been researching and it seems the tech requirements for ICS are the same as those for Gingerbread. Of course, given how Gingerbread has been very heavy on the Milestone, I know that even a moderate increase in tech requirements would be too much on the Milestone. But does it have a chance in any way? And can we backport some of the features (e.g. new Copy-Paste) to CM6 and CM7?
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I was waiting for someone to ask this ahah My guess is that when Cyanogen comes out with their version of ICS, Kabaldan or some other developer will try and port it to the milestone. Only time will tell...

Until the ICS source is published and reviewed, there can be no valid answers to such questions.

As Kabaldan noted, there's no way to know for sure until the sources are released, and that should take a little while still.
My guess: No, I don't think ICS is going to happen for the Milestone, at least not in an useful way. Along the history of Android releases, no matter what Google said about how a new release compares against an older release in resource usage, every new Android release always required a little bit more RAM than the release before: Froyo required more RAM than Eclair, but as long as you don't stuff your phone full with apps and you stick to a relatively "light" usage pattern, the Milestone still handled it pretty well. Then Gingerbread again required more RAM than Froyo, but now with Gingerbread we're really on the edge of what Milestone can handle - if you don't stick with a light usage pattern, you are sure to run into apps you need open being closed because of low RAM. I just can't see the situation improving, or even at best staying the same, with ICS.
I think a phone with at least 512Mb (like, say, SGS1 and many others released in the past year and a half) is most likely to be able to handle ICS with little downsides, but the Milestone obviously isn't in that league. The Milestone is a 2+ year old phone anyway.

cronot said:
As Kabaldan noted, there's no way to know for sure until the sources are released, and that should take a little while still.
My guess: No, I don't think ICS is going to happen for the Milestone, at least not in an useful way. Along the history of Android releases, no matter what Google said about how a new release compares against an older release in resource usage, every new Android release always required a little bit more RAM than the release before: Froyo required more RAM than Eclair, but as long as you don't stuff your phone full with apps and you stick to a relatively "light" usage pattern, the Milestone still handled it pretty well. Then Gingerbread again required more RAM than Froyo, but now with Gingerbread we're really on the edge of what Milestone can handle - if you don't stick with a light usage pattern, you are sure to run into apps you need open being closed because of low RAM. I just can't see the situation improving, or even at best staying the same, with ICS.
I think a phone with at least 512Mb (like, say, SGS1 and many others released in the past year and a half) is most likely to be able to handle ICS with little downsides, but the Milestone obviously isn't in that league. The Milestone is a 2+ year old phone anyway.
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You never know. After all the point of Ics is to get all devices in the same version.
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You never know. After all the point of Ics is to get all devices in the same version.
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Emphasis mine. I think you're taking that statement, that you've probably heard from Google and other sources, out of context.
ICS is supposed to unify the codebase for the Android OS, yes - for different form factors, i.e. Tablets and Smartphones. And that's it. It's not a silver bullet that's supposed to cover ALL Android devices.

I see the SDK on RC14, give a try of course i'm pessimist too.. already with Ginger everytime i open an heavy app the home collapse for free usefull ram.

i think we should honestly start thinking of upgrading our phones... this phone is just far too ancient. It's like asking for iOS 4 or iOS5 on the iPhone 2G... Impossible...

dmo580 said:
i think we should honestly start thinking of upgrading our phones... this phone is just far too ancient. It's like asking for iOS 4 or iOS5 on the iPhone 2G... Impossible...
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Some of us have contracts with our phone companies that don't end for another or two.

Physical limit sucks >.>, but agree with dmo... it's pointless trying to use Win 7 on P4 hardware single channel xD. About that RAZR is extremely sexy and got my attention... and i read an article where they point out the UK version could have bootloader unlocked , (and ICS update on mid 2012, but i rely on xda dev, like always and not direct support from M).

I'm sorry, but I gave up on my Milestone and bought a Galaxy S2.
For too long I've seen that the only major development this phone receives is through (very appreciated) kabaldan's work, and that's not acceptable.
Motorola abandoned this phone way too soon, yet at the same time refused to unlock it so that the skilled programmers stuck with this piece of hardware would be able to do something about it.
Not going to choose Motorola again anytime soon until they start giving their users the services appropriate to a smartphone (be it long term support or unlocked bootloaders).

dt0 said:
I'm sorry, but I gave up on my Milestone and bought a Galaxy S2.
For too long I've seen that the only major development this phone receives is through (very appreciated) kabaldan's work, and that's not acceptable.
Motorola abandoned this phone way too soon, yet at the same time refused to unlock it so that the skilled programmers stuck with this piece of hardware would be able to do something about it.
Not going to choose Motorola again anytime soon until they start giving their users the services appropriate to a smartphone (be it long term support or unlocked bootloaders).
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There are various other people who greatly contribute to the milestone modding community, and I'm sorry to hear that you don't understand that. Yes, while I too believe kabaldan has made some noteworthy and astounding contributions to the milestone modding community, he is not the only one and you should not just neglect the efforts of other developers.
Although I have to agree with you in the case that the motorola milestone's time to shine is over. While we can overclock the processor and apply various to achieve better performance, with the lack of ram and the inability to play most memory-intensive apps I do believe it is time for an upgrade. Finally, if I misinterpreted your comment, please let me know and I will try to change my comment accordingly.
Now about the Galaxy Nexus:
Although the Galaxy Nexus compared to a lot of the other competition seems to have underwhelming specs, it is still the first ice cream sandwich phone which Google and Samsung sat together which means that the hardware will be optimized for the software and also that the developer base would probably be extremely huge because of the number of consumers purchasing this product. ( I mean look at the Nexus One!) The only problem that I see with the Galaxy Nexus is that the GPU is 4 years outdated so it might not be the best phone to get but then again how many games do you really play on your phone? (I think the GPU is identical to the GPU in the Nexus S but apparently the processor is more-so tailored for multitasking and better performance, but not gaming)
Edit: Sorry for the partially irrelevant post :S

My milestone can barely run gingerbread, I have to use the less memory consuming apps for a semi-smooth phone, I don't think milestone can run ICS and if it does, it will be really slow

Android 4.0 Platform:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html

Can we port a lite version of ICS to Milestone by remove some unnecessary features : NFC , Android Beam , Face Unlock ( because MS don't have font-facing camera) ?

M4zinkaiser said:
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It is
But it runs Win 8 smoothly
That said, I think the modders will manage to make ICS usable on Milestone by removing some features and/or seperating vital processes from non-vital ones (like the Google Maps location service in latest CM7)

Even Windows 7 is smoother than Vista, and 8 seems to be lighter too.
Mi friends report me that iOS 5 runs better than 4 even on 3GS.
So we could have a good chance to port ICS with better results than GB on our MS.. finger crossed!!!

UPDATE! Romain Guy, renowned Android OS developer, just revealed that starting with 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, Android brings hardware accelerated 2D rendering to phones! Not just for tablets anymore This is great news for the Android community, and will only led to a smoother, and more efficient user experience. We won another one!
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http://www.androidannoyances.com/post/10

Maybe rip some needless features of ICS. It's just the hardware UI Acceleration that is important

milestone was a great phone, no doubt. the main problem is that the motorola customer service is terrible all around the world. in fact where im live hungary, the last motorola reseller closed permanently and the last customer service company moving out from the country, so the only option to take any motorola product to a bad repair service what is sending motorola phones to the closest service depo, like czeh republic. sometimes this is taking for 1-2 months.
this is happening many other country too, the only hope that google open their eyes and realise that not abandon the motorola brand (what is part of the big google branch now) and do something or else the motorola sooner or later going into the garbage.
i sold out my motorola, however i really like it, especially the hw keyboard, but i cant run many apps in recent days what i needed for my job, and my company buy for me a new phone. first i just retired my moto, packed to the original box nicely, but one of my friend told me that buy my milestone. in time i realise my new phone is so much faster than the moto was, that im not missed the greatest thing of the milestone: the hw keyboard.
so i decided to sell my milestone to my friend..
once again without Kabaldan this phone was a useless metal piece long time ago, so id like to thank you for all the hard work!
im with cm7 in my new phone, so cm7 always in my phone hearth
milestone is my first android phone ever and i never forget this!

Lg has to decide wether or not were getting ics

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/11/follow-up-to-the-lg-g2x-ice-cream-sandwich-story/
(Obviously LG, like all smartphone manufacturers wants to ensure that the user experience on their products is the very best it can be and we hope that LG determines in the long run that an Ice Cream Sandwich is viable for G2x owners.)
THAT^^ MADE ME LAUGH LOL

what made me laugh was them saying it depends on whether the phone can handle it (LOL) and if user use is going to be good cause of it . . .cause they know theyre going to f it up and everyones gonna hate it ..stupid lg y u no smart

icecicle said:
what made me laugh was them saying it depends on whether the phone can handle it (LOL) and if user use is going to be good cause of it . . .cause they know theyre going to f it up and everyones gonna hate it ..stupid lg y u no smart
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yeah i know right. they should take advice of the developers in here and see how the phone works with cm7 2.3.7 lol

I swear I read a while back that we could not get Ice Cream on our phones, that they weren't capable.
Regardless, I really doubt we're getting it. IMO, both TMO and LG have washed their hands of this device.
Too bad, 'cause it's an awesome phone. May take a few tries to get a good one LOL, but when you do, not much out there can beat it.
But if you don't expect any support, you won't be disappointed

Weren't capable? Huh? So the nexus S is going to run a stripped down version of 4.0? I think not ...our phones should be plenty capable and be faster on 4.0 than 2.3 yes? Since there's support for dual core
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Yeah, I must of imagined that. Couldn't find it by searching.
I'd love to see Ice Cream for sure....

I thought it was funny they said LG was testing ICS on both devices. The source hasn't been released by Google yet!

LordButtersI said:
I thought it was funny they said LG was testing ICS on both devices. The source hasn't been released by Google yet!
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It hasn't been released that we know of. Who's to say that haven't secretly released it to a few cell phone manufacturers for testing?
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of course they have
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It hasn't been released that we know of. Who's to say that haven't secretly released it to a few cell phone manufacturers for testing?
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im sure that all the phone manufacturers have had ics for a while. same as companies get windows/mac os whatever before released to the public. they need the hardware to be able to run the software.
i just cant believe all this hype over todays announcement. LG has been shown to lie and mislead and history of promising updates that never came.
now all of a sudden everyone believes this post proves that these phones will get ics. Ill believe it when i see it.

eagle1967 said:
im sure that all the phone manufacturers have had ics for a while. same as companies get windows/mac os whatever before released to the public. they need the hardware to be able to run the software.
i just cant believe all this hype over todays announcement. LG has been shown to lie and mislead and history of promising updates that never came.now all of a sudden everyone believes this post proves that these phones will get ics. Ill believe it when i see it.
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You never got the update? Thats odd. It's available in the dev section.

didnt say g2x
jcbofkc said:
You never got the update? Thats odd. It's available in the dev section.
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LG in general. and todays post says nothing confirming an update it says the no was not true it says they are planning ics and will let us know.
the previous post was in regards to past phones where they promised gingerbread updates and they never came.
it took 9 months to put gb out for some of the o2x's and thats an OS that was released before the phone.
its possible lg has figured out they could turn around their rep(due to short memories) around if they release ics by december for these 2 phones.
i havent seen anything from lg that shows they have or care.
so ill believe it when i see it.
if you want to make generalizations about the g2x than if the ics update is comparable to the gb we wont see most of the new optimization's since they are in the kernel and they seem to like the froyo kernel too much.
we can hope they learned something from 6 quaters of loss with each quarter increasing that loss. only time will tell.

eagle1967 said:
LG in general. and todays post says nothing confirming an update it says the no was not true it says they are planning ics and will let us know.
the previous post was in regards to past phones where they promised gingerbread updates and they never came.
it took 9 months to put gb out for some of the o2x's and thats an OS that was released before the phone.
its possible lg has figured out they could turn around their rep(due to short memories) around if they release ics by december for these 2 phones.
i havent seen anything from lg that shows they have or care.
so ill believe it when i see it.
if you want to make generalizations about the g2x than if the ics update is comparable to the gb we wont see most of the new optimization's since they are in the kernel and they seem to like the froyo kernel too much.
we can hope they learned something from 6 quaters of loss with each quarter increasing that loss. only time will tell.
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I agree about the kernel. It sure would be nice for nvidia and LG to get together and release the code and drivers so the devs can do their thing. I have not relied on a stock rom in years for any of my phones. The magical devs here at xda do a far better job than any of the manufacturers or cell companies. I'm not real big into lobbying companies to do things, but if they don't release ICS for us, I would hope at the least we could get the drivers.

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I agree about the kernel. It sure would be nice for nvidia and LG to get together and release the code and drivers so the devs can do their thing. I have not relied on a stock rom in years for any of my phones. The magical devs here at xda do a far better job than any of the manufacturers or cell companies. I'm not real big into lobbying companies to do things, but if they don't release ICS for us, I would hope at the least we could get the drivers.
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well said. if they dont care about these devices and they wash their hands at least they could do is releasing these drivers to the dev and costumers will stop complain about their device because our xda devs do better job than lg!

gypsy214 said:
well said. if they dont care about these devices and they wash their hands at least they could do is releasing these drivers to the dev and costumers will stop complain about their device because our xda devs do better job than lg!
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So does Qualcomm typically release source for their drivers? I would think it's all IP that all these companies would want to protect, but I always only see this complaint about NVIDIA.

ok guys there are rumors the lg said on fb the ics isnt coming to the 2x and now their saying that it is coming but they dont mention the g2x!! and all these websites when they talk about the 2x/g2x think are the same witch is not. so they need to be clear on what device their talking about

gypsy214 said:
ok guys there are rumors the lg said on fb the ics isnt coming to the 2x and now their saying that it is coming but they dont mention the g2x!! and all these websites when they talk about the 2x/g2x think are the same witch is not. so they need to be clear on what device their talking about
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my guess is when they say 2x they mean all versions with the same hardware tegra 2, LG branding, P999/0 so on and so on. If the O2X gets it so will we.

mt3g said:
my guess is when they say 2x they mean all versions with the same hardware tegra 2, LG branding, P999/0 so on and so on. If the O2X gets it so will we.
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Yea, we will have it. By the summer.

PC Mag says were getting ICS

LG Announced today thru PC Mag that we will be getting I've Cream Sandwich for sure. Probably by the end of November. Good news.

Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!

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CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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Probably with less problems, too.

Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?

probably the end of November 2012...lol :-(

"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3

jetbruceli said:
Well I dont want to sound mean but, didnt they promise Optimus 2x gingerbread for a year now? So I will believe them when I see it done! Other than that Great news to look foreword to.
BTW, CM will have it out for us before LG will!
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ummm..... the O2x gingerbread update is out and available via the LG updater.

Should be out By Summer based on the 2.3.3 for the G2x.

PCMag Article
player911 said:
Remember Gingerbread when it was released... the Dev Community had it released on all phones before any phone manufacture did.
You forget to think that ICS will go through a few revisions before reaching a stable version that will be ported to other phones.
BTW... link?
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395732,00.asp
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Nothing in that particular article about the end of November. Oh well, I believe in cyanogenmod.

wakeboarder8156 said:
"LG Mobile
‎[LG Official Statements on Ice Cream Sandwich OS Update]
LG firmly denies the rumors that claim LG will not be providing the Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) OS update for the LG Optimus 2X. These rumors are NOT true. LG is currently in the process of planning the ICS OS update for the LG Optimus 2X as well as other LG high-end smartphones. Detailed information on the ICS OS update schedule for specific models will be announced, once the ICS OS is publicly released by Google. Please stay tuned for more updates from LG.
Thank you very much."
straight from their fb page! So the p999 will definitely be getting this update, which who knows maybe it will be a better experience than 2.3.3
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Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
Whether it was due to our complaining, the hate posts on their FB page, our forum, Google pressure, or just the social responsibility of LG, it's acceptable by me.
I'm grateful for it and enthused by it. Anyways, back to the fact, it'll probably take them a while to release it, probably by like next April, but it's still an update.
I take back my post on their facebook page now. They seem like they care after all, even if they are slow, it's not like they've been huge players in the mobile industry as far as I know. So let them gain some momentum here.

barqers said:
Honestly, if LG reads this thread they'll think we don't even care if they release it or not. Come on guys, I for one love the fact that LG is stepping up to the plate to update the phone for us.
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Don't worry. LG is not reading this.

who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones

It's too bad ATi never made a phone and never will, I would have bought one if they did. Unfortunate thing now is that AMD killed ATi, otherwise it probably could have made a phone that would crush the Tegra 2, just like they do with desktop/laptop GPUs. Anyways, I knew this would happen, apparently I was one of the only people that could spot that the other facebook response from "LG" was a fake :/
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who cares?
- If LG does eventually put out an upgrade... it wont be untill Summer if that soon
- It will most likely suck like their GB update did.. ( froyo kernal? cmon )
- Before an official release... you STILL wont have drivers to make the phone function correctly because of NVIDIA
this is why i switched to a SGS2 hercules ....im done with LG and NVIDIA ... G2x had great potential... but i am done and will no longer buy from either company when it comes to phones
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You obviously never owned a SGS Vibrant.... still running Froyo 2.2 forevermore. Every company does the "shove it out the door and fuggedaboudit shuffle"...

If it used ATI drivers you'd be better off with NV and froyo kernel.
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Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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clninja said:
Actually i did own a vibrant....ditched it for a g2x so i got back 2 back screwed
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You and me both sir.
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Why stay Here
I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.

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I don't understand the people who post they are finished with LG and/or the G2x and has had enough. Trade it in for another phone that they say they are happier with, works better than and all that but stay here in the G2x forum to complain. If their new phones are all that much better why aren't they in their NEW forum helping others and such.
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LOL True that!

4 months since ICS release & Not a single phone updated to ICS

ICS was released on Oct 19th 2011. It is almost 4 months and still not a single phone was officially updated to ICS. The closest one was Nexus S which had an update that was pulled for being too buggy.
Why is it that android phones are so slow to update while WP7 & iOS have all their devices updated in days after a new update is out.
The wide varity of devices cannot be the reason as the team managing a device don't have to worry about other devices. For example, Galaxy S2 team needs to worry about Galaxy S2 and not other hundreds of devices.
Does upgrading in Android world means buying new phone and not software updaye like in iOS & WP7?

Although In part what you are asking makes sense it is in large part a flawed question and premise. I can not speak to windows mobile as I am not terribly familiar so everything going forward is about android and apple.
Yes we are all waiting to see how much each oem can f up ics with their version of android, whether it is tw or sense or blur etc. ics is a major change in how android handles things unlike ios5 which was in reality a very minor update to the system. And it was delayed by about 5 months from their typical release so when it was officially released it was available to most iOS devices true, but delayed all the same.
The delay for ics is caused by the oems thinking they can improve on it and give their own twist. If it was a vanilla update your premise would be accurate. As to the nexus s although the official release was pulled back there are several quality ports across several devices using it as a base

Though the source code was available previously, the first ICS device (the GSM Galaxy Nexus) was not released until mid-November. As mcord11758 mentioned, ICS is a *huge* updated to the Android system and it takes time to get everything coded to work properly.
I also saw some information last night that the 4.0.4 rollout would resume for Nexus S 4G devices today, so take a deep breath and relax

It's all that freedom man! It takes time to add bloatware,spyware and hideous UI "enhancements" you know.

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It's all that freedom man! It takes time to add bloatware,spyware and hideous UI "enhancements" you know.
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I have an iOS device. All ios5 did was eat my battery faster and do a weak job of copying androids notifications. Not sure what your bragging about

What I have always found funny is why independent devs can get roms out quicker. There was recent interview with one of Motorola's top execs that said the reason for delays was all the different hardware used in all the different phones. I am running jokers çm9 ics on my motorola electrify. An independent dev got it out before motorola with all their resources. They could get updates out a lot quicker if they so chose to.
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I have an iOS device. All ios5 did was eat my battery faster and do a weak job of copying androids notifications. Not sure what your bragging about
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Well, at least you didn't have to wait 6-12 months to actually be able to update your device.

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What I have always found funny is why independent devs can get roms out quicker. There was recent interview with one of Motorola's top execs that said the reason for delays was all the different hardware used in all the different phones. I am running jokers çm9 ics on my motorola electrify. An independent dev got it out before motorola with all their resources. They could get updates out a lot quicker if they so chose to.
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Independent devs get to release ROMs with a "sorry if it doesn't work, but tough sh*t" disclaimer. OEMs/Carriers have to be able to support the ROMs they ship.

Also have to remember that The CM based roms here use open source drivers that dont use the hardware to the fullest. While OEMs use closed sourced drivers built for the hardware. Once they get the update they have to wait for new drivers to be built to work with the hardware to the fullest.

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It's all that freedom man! It takes time to add bloatware,spyware and hideous UI "enhancements" you know.
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With each post I'm more convinced your an apple employee but I'll bite and ask what spyware you refer to.
Dave
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Well, at least you didn't have to wait 6-12 months to actually be able to update your device.
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Wait...are you saying you would rather a quick but flawed update rather than a delayed but more stable one?
Dave
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With each post I'm more convinced your an apple employee but I'll bite and ask what spyware you refer to.
Dave
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Carrier IQ anyone?

The reason it takes so long is because all the manufacturers have there own UI to make there phones stick out from the others and with major updates like in ICS they have to rewite there UI to work smoothly with ICS.

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Why is it that android phones are so slow to update while WP7 & iOS have all their devices updated in days after a new update is out.
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I have worked at Microsoft on Windows Phone 7 and on Windows Mobile. Going back pre WP7, updates generally simply didn't get released for phones. Microsoft is trying to improve that, but the software has to go through modification and testing for carriers. I don't think any version was ready for acceptance in less than four months, ever.
I suspect it's worse in Android-land (where my phones live), because at least Microsoft has big teams for their for-profit product. The major manufacturers also have teams on-site at Microsoft, working to do the customizations. And Microsoft controls the hardware more tightly than Android; for WP7's initial release, there were really only two hardware package options (e.g. screen size, resolution, camera, processor, etc.) So less to modify.
And then Moto adds their new Blur incarnation, HTC adds Sense, and so on, each requiring more changes and testing.
So the comparison between WP7 and ICS is off because of profit-driven teams, hardware diversity and software customization that MS doesn't allow.

Idk but isn't this site to get ICS before any update??? Lol
I'm running ICS in my Samsung Captivate and I can promise you ICS will never come to a Captivate ... but guess what I've got it!!!
I can point and laugh at iOS and WP7 for their limited OS and customize my device
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To be honest I don't even know why people want ICS.
I was one of the unfortunates to get the update and now am desperately trying to downgrade back to stock 2.3.6 OR even better..load Cyanogen Mod on my phone.
The only good thing about the update is it led me to register and start to poke around this forum!
Bugs in ICS on my Nexus S include:
- Phone won't ring even when it should. It will only vibrate.
- Lags heavily and hangs when pulling up and trying to type a text message.
- Have to write text message most times before inputting contact to send to.
- Runs million processes in the background, thus killing my battery life.
When I upgraded it wouldn't let me sync my contacts and erased over half my names in my contact lists. When I turned on sync, it would continue to delete the names I had recently readded.
Since wiping all data from my phone, it works a bit more like it should and is a bit more snappy, but it still sucks. They need to hurry up and re-release ICS in a workable version, or at least let people roll back their phone to previous version like you could in Gingerbread.
Whatsup with naming their OS after generally crappy dessert items? Someobody in their marketing department is a glutton...

i want to up grade to ics... but i want to learn more first from here...
please give me some advice

SASQ!!!!!!
come on la, use your butt and think....
why android take such a long time to release a update.
because android has just tooo many different model....
while apple only got...umm.....1......
and windows.....ummm....less den android....
so think about it.....

maybe one----huawei Honor(U8860)ANDROID 4.0
the second edition of ICS commercial release

no guidelines, no warranty, no quality