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Hi, I have decided to get either a desire HD or Desire Z. The problem is I can't decide which one to get. I wanted a physical keyboard but I am not that bothered about that now. I have looked and looked at comparisions but to no avail.
What I want to know at the end of the day is which is the fastest for games/graphical apps and which can be customised the most as in custom roms etc.?
I read the desire z has the 205 gpu but cant find if the hd is the same or not.
Any pointers in a direction would be appreciated to help me decide.
Thanks.
Stu.
Any opinions? Gotta decide by tomorrow!!
Personally, I only go for phones with a keyboard because I love fast typing on the keys and hate touch typing. So if I were you, I'd get the Desire Z. However, the problem with that phone is that the way it slides up, the hinges don't seem very stable and quite a lot of people have reported having problems with it.
But a better choice would be the Motorola Milestone 2. It's cheaper and much better than the Desire Z in many ways, it's a better phone overall. I never thought i'd say this coz I always prefer HTC phones, but the Milestone 2 just seems better.
One more for Desire Z!, keyboard it´s fantastic
Despite the constant complaints about hinges, you can always replace your phone with warranty ;D Plus, desire z ain't a fingerprint magnet
cheers, but are both phones the same cpu,gpu wise or different?
Desire HD, Better spec, better speed Bigger screen.
Typing, with swype, is a breeze, it took me 10min to learn swype, and now i can type faster than friends with a blackberry / slide keyboard phone.
ahh, now it's getting interesting. But still which?? ...LOL (?)(?)
thetmyster said:
Desire HD, Better spec, better speed Bigger screen.
Typing, with swype, is a breeze, it took me 10min to learn swype, and now i can type faster than friends with a blackberry / slide keyboard phone.
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Faster processor and more RAM for sure on the HD, but very bad speaker and a screen quality not as good as on the Z according to several tests.
As for Swype I've used it for a long time on my HD2. It's clearly an improvement for soft keyboards (SlideIT and Shapewriter as well) but in my experience a physical keyboard is much faster and comfortable than Swype.
I switched from a Touch Pro (hard keyboard) to HD2 (soft keyboard) then Desire Z. Conclusion: I'm never going to buy a new phone without hard keyboard unless I have no other choice.
And remember that when you use a hard keyboard half your screen isn't hidden by the soft keyboard when you type.
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I find the speaker OK.
I tested it against my friends i4, it was arond 2x louder.
Both at full volume. Also, i4 was much slower than DHD
Of course get a desire HD, who wouldnt want a higher end android? Plus, dont worry about the keyboard because you can use swype or like htc ime, which is an amazing alternative.
Desire HD for sure. The speaker is not too bad volume and quality wise but honestly who would listen to music and whatever on it for a long periods of time. Bigger screen is the most awesome part of the phone, and the phone is very slick. Typing with stock keyboard in landscape is very easy and very fast, I can type faster then swype this way.
So in the end it comes down what you need. You want a very sexy device with big a screen, 8mpx camera etc... or a slightly bulkier device (also sexy) with smaller screen but hardware keyboard (hardware specs aside).
When playing games on a emulator a physical keyboard is definitely better though.
And if your still not certain, pick by which one is faster, Desire HD
Desire Z for me. The Desire HD is a great phone spec-wise, but I just find it a bit too much. Desire Z is sleeker, sexier, more HTC, if you like. Physical keyboard is a massive plus in my eyes.
Thanks a lot guys. keep the views coming.!!
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Don't let us pick the device for you lol.
Go to a shop and try them both out for a while and see how they feel, that's what I did when I was going to buy a HD2....came home with a Desire HD lol.
Hi, I bought a Desire HD!! Thanks for all your input people, helped a lot!!
Wait for Dual-Cores to arrive in Feb, or defo DHD without a doubt.
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Wait for Dual-Cores to arrive in Feb, or defo DHD without a doubt.
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My Orange (UK) contract ends in March, and I am eligible for an upgrade as of now. I was thinking of going for a Desire Z but it seems like a bit of a waste given that the spec isn't great as it is, and dual-core processors in phones on the horizon.
Are they any HTC dual-core phones lined up?
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My Orange (UK) contract ends in March, and I am eligible for an upgrade as of now. I was thinking of going for a Desire Z but it seems like a bit of a waste given that the spec isn't great as it is, and dual-core processors in phones on the horizon.
Are they any HTC dual-core phones lined up?
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Most likely. You will find out at the MWC 11 conference! i Am almost 100% ceratain they will release one.
your contracts ends perfect timing!
So heres the deal, Im on att and already upgraded so I will have to buy either outright, overall I'd say the Atrix bests the Arc in specs but the design of the Arc is fantastic imo and it has a better screen and im gonna assume the camera will be better, im just not sure though, also theres the question of release date and price, anyone have any ideas when these phones will come and how much on eBay? Also do you think that the Arc will make it to att or at least a 3g compatible version at launch? I know people are gonna say avoid SE but I like them and I liked the X10, only thing that annoyed me was no MT.
Anyway what do you guys think? I really need a new phone as I am using a 3GS after my captivate broke, its not bad but I really miss Android.
Well you like Android so I'm not gonna go into the pros/cons of the OS. Just these two devices.
Xperia Arc (Should be out by April, most likely WON'T support AT&T 3G)
Pros:
-Good quality camera
-Thin and sleek
-4" Screen (not too big, not too small)
-Great screen BUT there's only a major difference when playing videos or looking at photos. Besides that, it's just a normal but good quality LCD.
-Gingerbread 2.3
Cons:
-Sony Ericsson put a skin on it
-Sony Ericsson has a spotty history with updates (I'm sure you know that being a X10 owner).
-Probably just as expensive as the Atrix thanks to the "Sony tax".
Motorola Atrix (Should be out by March, launching on AT&T)
Pros:
-Tegra 2 = total beast and the fastest thing out there.
-4" Screen (not too big, not too small)
-Screen resolution of 540x960 (qHD) -- the highest res screen of any Android device.
-Motorola is better than most to provide software updates.
-Crazy WebTop app and Laptop 'Dock'
-1930mah battery -- largest of any Android device.
-HSPA+ so you get 4G-like speeds.
-Front-facing camera
Cons:
-Motorola's abortion of a skin is on there.
-Froyo 2.2 and no idea of when upgrade will come.
-WebTop app looks cool, but could still suck.
-Despite large battery, Tegra 2 is under the hood and that could suck some battery really quickly.
Do you like MotoBLUR or whateverskinSonyEriccsonhasontheirGingerbread? I personally think MotoBLUR is complete crap and the fact that AT&T is not known for updating their phones rather quickly might be a roadblock. Than there is the locked bootloader if you don't plan on doing much with custom roms.
In all seriousness, there is no way in hell that the Atrix will have a better camera than the Arc, mainly because Cybershot cameras usually take phenomenal photos (tested with two Cybershots) and the Arc kind of has the censor from the Cybershots. The Arc might be the best camera orientated Android phone despite the lack of 1080p video recording. Motorola isn't really known for having good cameras, but they are known for using gorilla glass on most of their phones, so I am assuming the Atrix has that.
Depends on your preference really. I would personally go with the Arc and hope that SE is true to their word about updating their phones.
Atrix will come by March 1st.
Arc will come April.
Most unlocked phones have AT&T bands, so I wouldn't expect the Arc to be any different.
I would definitely go for the Atrix. Im on ATT too but I upgraded last june to the captivate so I will be waiting as well.
However, I would definitely get the atrix because of the specs and docking capability.
Well im leaning towards the arc as I like SE and imo they make the best looking phones, and that silver one is...wow! Only thing I need a confirmation is price, date and most important if it will have 3g bands, im willing to wait but not till the mddle if the year either lol
my question as well...arc or atrix?
I would go with Sony, mainky because i own X8 aswell and it proved to be a quite nice phone for the price range it has.
Yea, updates are Sony's biggest con, but besides that i had no real problems with it All their devices i had run pretty nice and smooth
Defiantly arc the looks of it are awesome plus it'll have 3 rd gen snap dragon soc won't be as powerful as atrix but the is like no apps that really use dual core but wait and see as for me battery life is huge
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Well im leaning towards the arc as I like SE and imo they make the best looking phones, and that silver one is...wow!
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It's funny how peoples' tastes differ. I think SE phones look horrible, especially the Arc. Also, in a few months time phones with single-core processors will seem so out-of-date.
Motorola Atrix for me.
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It's funny how peoples' tastes differ. I think SE phones look horrible, especially the Arc. Also, in a few months time phones with single-core processors will seem so out-of-date.
Motorola Atrix for me.
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lol it is funny, I love Sony's phones, they always look different from the competition as well instead of an iphone wannabe, Atrix looks so....common.
Wait and watch the forums on XDA see which phone gets rooted first/more easily and see which phone is more easily modded.
I had the X10 and while it's a great phone the lack of support from SE really annoyed me and the fact that they locked that phone down like crazy was even more frustrating.
True, but as every phone out there, X10 will get unlocked properly sooner or later. Wasn't much of a factor here when i was buying my Xperia X8
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True, but as every phone out there, X10 will get unlocked properly sooner or later. Wasn't much of a factor here when i was buying my Xperia X8
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Not true, I had a Motorola Milestone (European version of the Droid) and that never was properly unlocked-- still a great phone for it's time through, despite its weaknesses.
Anyways, to actually answer the question, the Atrix is a beast. 16gb internal storage is fantastic. Super fast processor. Both Sony and Motorola have pretty crappy track records when it comes to customer support, so don't expect much from either company on that front. I'd go with the Atrix.
Atrix is way better. I dont trust sony phones....
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I can talk about SE Arc 'cause I personally use this device atm
I'm really satisfied for its functions, pros:
a) weight, it's so light
b) good media section (camera, music player...just radio is pretty poor in tuning)
c) pack (two usb cables, one for charging, the other for car charging - car charger included - screen protection - nice headphones)
d) display (wide enough and natural colors)
e) design (IMHO, the best form factor atm)
i've seen both phones a prefer the dual core atrix as it is much quicker (atleast in my experience)
go with your feeling，pick up you like
These two phones completely died off after CES.
Yes, stay for the first will be root
Just can't make my minf up over what I should do, the GS2 does look nice, it's different and has the better hardware but then it's relativeley new tech for phones (dual core) and alot could go wrong.
With Sony the ARC is a polished X10 with imporvements and looks to be a stable phone, however with Sony's previous sham with flagship phone releases being replaced in a short time and with no upgrade path until the complaints roll in (as with X10i) This is a bit of a worry
Now the ARC S is due at the end of November as is my upgrade, Do I wait 2 weeks and grab an ARC S, I have the X10i now and am happy with that running 2.3.3 - Or do I jump ship to samsung (last one I had was a pixon before my X10i and wasn't all that impressed)
I just don't know what to do, have had a look through the other posts and there are good and bad points to both, ARC seems to suffer from case cracking due to over heat and also poor battery (nothing new compared to X10i and i can live with it) ARC S seems to be what the ARC was to the X10i - the real flagship.
Anyone give an unbiased view on the phones? i really am at a loss this time.
Played with the arc sensation and gs2 in town over a few weekends arc just seems like the x10i in a new case, bigger better display though. 3d panorama on arc s is nice but i don't have a 3d tv to make it worthwhile
Gs2 well thin but felt flimsy compared to arc. good cam though no separate hard button i could find only downside, colour intensity is a bit mad and will take some getting used to. Also wow is it fast!
Sensation was ok but dont like the htc launcher etc i don't think that the xe will be enough spec wise to make me put up with the interface.
Although phone was most rugged feeling of all 3.
Over all its a straight knockout between the arc s and gs2. I think the gs2 is edging it atm will decide on the day in store i feel having played with both
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hi guys. i bought sensation last week. before i had xperia x10 mini pro. after much struggle i finally rooted it. i am thinking about selling it to my brother and getting desire z. reasons-physical keyboard I was used to from xperia and 3 color led instead of just 2. do you guys think these features are worth it? do you get used to typing on touch screen? what is your advice to the newbie? i am strggling to type on sensation right now.
I had a G2 and to be honest having a keyboard vs not having one is a HUGE difference. It all comes down to whether you absolutely need a physical keyboard or not. If you do, stick with the Desire Z and if you think you can adapt to a touch screen only then go with the Sensation.
You definitely get used to touch screen. This is my first touchscreen phone and to begin withI was hopeless, I would suggest using a 3rd party keyboard, my personal favourite is SwiftKey x because of its excellent word prediction.
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I had the G2, NEVER used the physical keyboard because swype/GB keyboard was good enough for me. It's really personal preference, same thing I did with the G1, never used the physical keyboard. But if you absolutely need it and can't stand the touch keyboard then get it.
I have no idea wheter I can get used to touch screen. That's why I am asking if someone has experience with getting used to it.
I agree with Vandam500
I had the G1, loved it, the physical keyboard was LOVELY. but sadly it was slow and I got a N1 instead, problem was N1 has multitouch issues and it's really annoying when you're typing fast. Now the sensation, it's alright. I Still miss my G1 though.
But isn't the G2 substantially slower?
You will definitely get used to it.
Bought a Mytouch 3G last year for the keyboard and ended up exchanging it for a Vibrant within a week because I'd already gotten used to the touchscreen.
I had the desire z, the development isn't as good as the sensation, I get better performance and battery life on sensation. Personal prefference, I never used the keyboard even though I brought it because of the keyboard, but by the time you flicked it out I could just type on the screen just as fast. It's good for fpsece though and other emulaters
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I have the Sensation and my girlfriend has Desire Z. She loves using physical keyboard but I prefer touchscreen. I tried to type fast on Desire Z but still I type much much faster on bigger screen keyboard (with two thumbs).
Well here are my 2 bits.
I was using blackberry before sensation, though yes it takes a little getting used to but typing is a breeze soon.
Good luck!
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Only if you really need a physical keyboard.
Desire Z's camera quality is significantly worse than Sensation's (no, I'm not just talking about megapixel count, but image quality. Color reproduction, sharpness, contrast etc). Sensation also has faster and dual-core processor, and higher screen resolution.
Coming from the Nokia N900 I had a hard time. But only for as little as a few days, until I found out that there are bazillions of alternative keyboard programs for Android Nowadays I'm quite happy with my touchscreen-keyboard. Plus I love the bigger screen
Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Hi, I am looking into getting myself an Android tablet next week and had my heart set on a Motorla Xoom, simply because the price (£279) appears to be the best value around for the spec of the tablet.
One thing that is starting to put me off is alot of people are telling me that the Xoom is 'really heavy'. Now i've read the weight compared to other tablets etc but it doesn't really tell me if the weight is a turn off.
I appreciate if you guys could comment on whether you find the weight of the Xoom to be a hindrance, do you worry about dropping it? is it uncomfortable to hold for browsing the net etc.
Where is the extra weight coming from? is there a bigger battery?
many thanks in advance, the alternate option i have at the same price level is the Galaxy Tab 8.9 which is at the opposite end weight wise, but lacking in storage/screen size etc.
cheers
K
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Eh - I Love my Xoom, but in answer to your questions....
Yes, the Xoom could be considered "heavy" as compared to some other
tablets.
Xoom - 708g
Galaxy tab 10.1 - 565g
Acer Iconia Tab A500 - 730g
I don't find it heavy but it feels solid for sure. Has mostly a sturdy aluminum body
Maybe not a one handed tablet but I for one appreciate its build quality - a big factor in me buying it.
Its definitely a bit heavy, can't deny it. But i love it and it doesnt put me off it. Plus for that price its by far the best option
Yes it's heavy but I personally like that feel from my units.
The only knock on the weight is you will find it difficult to prop it up without some sort of stand or case that supports it.
But considering it is a google experience device, has an unlocked bootloader and is now cheap as far as tablets go I wold buy another one today if I was buying my first tablet!
The only knock I have with the unit has nothing to do with the unit at all!
I just can't for the life of me understand why the HD Speaker dock has every port but a USB on it! Has Power, and HDMI but no USB sync port!
The only other unit I have reccomended was the Transformer series for those who want the laptop experience but the ability to have the tab experience as well!
Asus did a good job on that design but the locked bootloader was a no go for me!
Other less savy folks it's fine but since your posting on XDA I would assme you want to make it into a coffee maker as well! LOL
thanks very much for the replies!
it seems that owners of the Xoom don't have buyers remorse then with regards to the weight of the product , which is the only drawback i could see.
I also thought it very strange that the dock(s) dont have usb connections, strange decision that from Moto, especially since it appears the dock uses the micro usb port when its lining up.
All in all the Xoom appears to be more than value for money, and with the standard dock (£18! on amazon) and keyboard (£20) at such low prices aswell, i could see them combining to replace my laptop.
thanks again, be on the lookout for a Xoom n00b hitting the forum next weekend
its not heavy for me at all.my sister has a galaxy tab 10.1 and it has very small difference in weight.i love its thickness and weight.
I was in the same boat this tablet is awesome and I am glad I got it good build quality and as easy to play with as my galaxy nexus. I wish the front facing camera quality was a little better other than that this is an amazing tablet and I love it. Battery life is good too even clocked at 1.5 GHZ
Heavy...come on...don't be like the others be a real man!
My weakling of a wife has no complaints...humans adapt...
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I will say the device is heavy but I always have it on my lap etc so it doesn't bother me. You will get use to it.
Now I will also add in that this is by far the best tablet to own period. I've rooted/rom'd a lot of different android tablets for co-workers and I can say that NONE have as good of a development community as the Xoom does. Fast roms, kernels, backtrack 5, ubuntu, even the USB "camera" adapter can be used for a keyboard/mouse/USB WiFi, USB thumb drives etc. Basically anything with a USB port will run on this thing.
Xoom for life dude.
I also had the same questions before I got my xoom... It's a great device to have and very customizable.
I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Good choice!
Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
thanks everyone, collected my Xoom from Argos today
great so far.
Should i have registered the same google account as my galaxy s? i didnt, i used a different one, but wondering if i should have used my main one.
thanks
K
If you use the same account, you can purchase apps once and use on both devices.
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I'm convinced, picking mine up next Saturday
Thanks everyone.
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Geeba said:
Yep they are good! - I thought I was a bit late getting one with all the new tablets coming out, but the Xoom does everything I want... as far as weight, it is a little heavy but it doesnt bother me... my mrs and my (almost) 3 year old son use it no problem without a grumble...
Still wondering wether to root it or not... not sure what it would actually gain me
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Well, two days in and I've flashed the US from and been upgraded to ICS and I'm absolutely thrilled with the Xoom!
I need to find some good tablet apps though, and looks like I'll have to root it to get the BBC apps (should have realised that, lol)
I've not touched my Galaxy S since I got the Xoom.
For anyone reading later, I would say that, yes, the Xoom is on the heavy side, but the build quality and battery life easy make the trade off worth it. Still can't believe I only paid £279.
From a development point of view, the Xoom is second to none. I've had more fun developing on the Xoom than any other android device ever. Also, running ICS and a bleeding edge. 39 kernel, you have access to mobile technology nobody else has yet, such as WifiDirect. Truly, the xoom is at the forefront of android development, and Eos will continue to push the boundaries of Android reality.
Hmm sounds tempting
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