So heres the deal, Im on att and already upgraded so I will have to buy either outright, overall I'd say the Atrix bests the Arc in specs but the design of the Arc is fantastic imo and it has a better screen and im gonna assume the camera will be better, im just not sure though, also theres the question of release date and price, anyone have any ideas when these phones will come and how much on eBay? Also do you think that the Arc will make it to att or at least a 3g compatible version at launch? I know people are gonna say avoid SE but I like them and I liked the X10, only thing that annoyed me was no MT.
Anyway what do you guys think? I really need a new phone as I am using a 3GS after my captivate broke, its not bad but I really miss Android.
Well you like Android so I'm not gonna go into the pros/cons of the OS. Just these two devices.
Xperia Arc (Should be out by April, most likely WON'T support AT&T 3G)
Pros:
-Good quality camera
-Thin and sleek
-4" Screen (not too big, not too small)
-Great screen BUT there's only a major difference when playing videos or looking at photos. Besides that, it's just a normal but good quality LCD.
-Gingerbread 2.3
Cons:
-Sony Ericsson put a skin on it
-Sony Ericsson has a spotty history with updates (I'm sure you know that being a X10 owner).
-Probably just as expensive as the Atrix thanks to the "Sony tax".
Motorola Atrix (Should be out by March, launching on AT&T)
Pros:
-Tegra 2 = total beast and the fastest thing out there.
-4" Screen (not too big, not too small)
-Screen resolution of 540x960 (qHD) -- the highest res screen of any Android device.
-Motorola is better than most to provide software updates.
-Crazy WebTop app and Laptop 'Dock'
-1930mah battery -- largest of any Android device.
-HSPA+ so you get 4G-like speeds.
-Front-facing camera
Cons:
-Motorola's abortion of a skin is on there.
-Froyo 2.2 and no idea of when upgrade will come.
-WebTop app looks cool, but could still suck.
-Despite large battery, Tegra 2 is under the hood and that could suck some battery really quickly.
Do you like MotoBLUR or whateverskinSonyEriccsonhasontheirGingerbread? I personally think MotoBLUR is complete crap and the fact that AT&T is not known for updating their phones rather quickly might be a roadblock. Than there is the locked bootloader if you don't plan on doing much with custom roms.
In all seriousness, there is no way in hell that the Atrix will have a better camera than the Arc, mainly because Cybershot cameras usually take phenomenal photos (tested with two Cybershots) and the Arc kind of has the censor from the Cybershots. The Arc might be the best camera orientated Android phone despite the lack of 1080p video recording. Motorola isn't really known for having good cameras, but they are known for using gorilla glass on most of their phones, so I am assuming the Atrix has that.
Depends on your preference really. I would personally go with the Arc and hope that SE is true to their word about updating their phones.
Atrix will come by March 1st.
Arc will come April.
Most unlocked phones have AT&T bands, so I wouldn't expect the Arc to be any different.
I would definitely go for the Atrix. Im on ATT too but I upgraded last june to the captivate so I will be waiting as well.
However, I would definitely get the atrix because of the specs and docking capability.
Well im leaning towards the arc as I like SE and imo they make the best looking phones, and that silver one is...wow! Only thing I need a confirmation is price, date and most important if it will have 3g bands, im willing to wait but not till the mddle if the year either lol
my question as well...arc or atrix?
I would go with Sony, mainky because i own X8 aswell and it proved to be a quite nice phone for the price range it has.
Yea, updates are Sony's biggest con, but besides that i had no real problems with it All their devices i had run pretty nice and smooth
Defiantly arc the looks of it are awesome plus it'll have 3 rd gen snap dragon soc won't be as powerful as atrix but the is like no apps that really use dual core but wait and see as for me battery life is huge
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Well im leaning towards the arc as I like SE and imo they make the best looking phones, and that silver one is...wow!
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It's funny how peoples' tastes differ. I think SE phones look horrible, especially the Arc. Also, in a few months time phones with single-core processors will seem so out-of-date.
Motorola Atrix for me.
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It's funny how peoples' tastes differ. I think SE phones look horrible, especially the Arc. Also, in a few months time phones with single-core processors will seem so out-of-date.
Motorola Atrix for me.
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lol it is funny, I love Sony's phones, they always look different from the competition as well instead of an iphone wannabe, Atrix looks so....common.
Wait and watch the forums on XDA see which phone gets rooted first/more easily and see which phone is more easily modded.
I had the X10 and while it's a great phone the lack of support from SE really annoyed me and the fact that they locked that phone down like crazy was even more frustrating.
True, but as every phone out there, X10 will get unlocked properly sooner or later. Wasn't much of a factor here when i was buying my Xperia X8
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True, but as every phone out there, X10 will get unlocked properly sooner or later. Wasn't much of a factor here when i was buying my Xperia X8
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Not true, I had a Motorola Milestone (European version of the Droid) and that never was properly unlocked-- still a great phone for it's time through, despite its weaknesses.
Anyways, to actually answer the question, the Atrix is a beast. 16gb internal storage is fantastic. Super fast processor. Both Sony and Motorola have pretty crappy track records when it comes to customer support, so don't expect much from either company on that front. I'd go with the Atrix.
Atrix is way better. I dont trust sony phones....
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I can talk about SE Arc 'cause I personally use this device atm
I'm really satisfied for its functions, pros:
a) weight, it's so light
b) good media section (camera, music player...just radio is pretty poor in tuning)
c) pack (two usb cables, one for charging, the other for car charging - car charger included - screen protection - nice headphones)
d) display (wide enough and natural colors)
e) design (IMHO, the best form factor atm)
i've seen both phones a prefer the dual core atrix as it is much quicker (atleast in my experience)
go with your feeling,pick up you like
These two phones completely died off after CES.
Yes, stay for the first will be root
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Hi,
I bought a HTC Hero last week but it came with a dead pixel so I sent it back (eBay). I didn't use it, really, but Andoid looks nice. (I am a Widows Mobile veteran - 2006-2010, and I'm 18).
I bought a T-Mobile 30 day rolling contract last week (£10 - 100 mins, 100 texts + internet booster),, which is a great value, so I was looking to buy a handset separately (hence Hero). Ideally I want to spend £200 to £250. No more, because prices depreciate very quickly from higher than that.
I was looking at another Hero, but realised how cheap a Desire or Legend or X10 could be, if on a contract!
For a 24 month contract, at £10 per month (100 mins, 100 texts + internet booster), a Desire would be £164 from T-Mobile. This is fantastic, I think, as I would ALWAYS spend at least £10 on airtime.
An Xperia X10 would be £226!
I hope this helps some people, as I was pleasantly surprised by the T-Mobile UK prices. I am working right now but will be a student in London next year, so I don't want a contract that's too expensive (ideally no more than £20 per month).
Also, I've read that Virgin will offer some of these - should I try Virgin or steer clear?
However, there's a part of me that thinks I should buy a cheaper phone that can still communicate just as well, and wait for Windows Phone 7.
What should I do, what should I do? What are you doing?
I'm trying to decide myself whether i should get the X10 or the Desire. I like the X10 form factor, but the display of the desire seems to be much better... AMOLED + 16m colors vs 65k :/
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I'm trying to decide myself whether i should get the X10 or the Desire. I like the X10 form factor, but the display of the desire seems to be much better... AMOLED + 16m colors vs 65k :/
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Had those thoughts about the screen myself, some time ago and today too.
From a comparison review (can't remember where) there appears not be a huge difference (i.e. 56k doesn't make much difference). AMOLED has its downsides also.
Maybe I'll start a thread on this...
From what I see on GSMarena the most notable differences are screen size and display. X10 also has 1GB of memory instead of the 512 of the desire.
Main thing that is drawing me towards X10 is that i have had 3 HTCs so far and the driver quality is abysmal on WiMo phones, dunno how they are on Android. If they still lack GPU drivers for the chips then defenetly I will be leaning towards the X10.
for me theres only 1 choice, desire. it has better screen, it has sense, android 2.1 not 1.6 and u dont know when its gonna get an update if it actually will get one. and desire looks better
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From what I see on GSMarena the most notable differences are screen size and display. X10 also has 1GB of memory instead of the 512 of the desire.
Main thing that is drawing me towards X10 is that i have had 3 HTCs so far and the driver quality is abysmal on WiMo phones, dunno how they are on Android. If they still lack GPU drivers for the chips then defenetly I will be leaning towards the X10.
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you dont need that much memory anyway, x10 still lags and has that stupid keyboard bug while typing first word
I think HTC Desire with HTC sense is a much more robust and refined way of using Android personally
HTC have been fiddling with Android since the G1 - and they've got it pretty much spot on now.. Which is why i've finally taken the plunge with the HTC Desire.
It's going to another 1/2 phones until i think Sony really has a grip on their UI and Android itself, but the X10 is one hell of a first attempt. Also only further confirms how seriously the likes of Sony are taking Android now.
Motorola, Sony, Samsung LG and HTC - all backing Android in a very big way.
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I think HTC Desire with HTC sense is a much more robust and refined way of using Android personally
HTC have been fiddling with Android since the G1 - and they've got it pretty much spot on now.. Which is why i've finally taken the plunge with the HTC Desire.
It's going to another 1/2 phones until i think Sony really has a grip on their UI and Android itself, but the X10 is one hell of a first attempt. Also only further confirms how seriously the likes of Sony are taking Android now.
Motorola, Sony, Samsung LG and HTC - all backing Android in a very big way.
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Do you have any more insight regarding the driver support on HTC android sets? Particularly the Qualcomm GPU drivers (Which are absent in WiMo). I figure thats the main drawback of my HD... If it had proper driver support it wouldn't seem slow..
If someone who has used either, could compare (X10 particularly) in the coming days and weeks, it would be great.
I will almost probably go for the X10, for its superior sound quality (not great, but on my Hero it was poor, and Desire probably will be too) and camera. I use these features quite a bit, surprisingly, as I won't carry an MP3 player and camera in addition to this (especially as it's huge).
I hope with some confidence that bugs will be addressed very quickly and the 2.1 update rolled out soon after. I look at at as a handset with potential. This applies to screen colours too, I suppose.
This is based on an Engadget review. Not very in-depth, but it's a start (hopefully GSM Arena et al. will review the final product soon)
I might well buy it on Friday or Saturday (next wage!), from T-Mobile (online), so feel free to ask questions after I confirm it's arrived.
T-Mobile is good value!
Say handset only X1 is £450.
It's around £230 on a 24 month £10 contract with 100 mins, 100 texts, internet + booster. Total = £470!!!
I want the white one though, so maybe I should wait a few weeks for Orange.
Xperia x10 is not out yet, but I am looking to get high end Android phone for AT&T. Any thoughts or suggestions on what should I get? Xperia has impressive specs, but I hear their UI on top of Android OS is super sluggish. On the other hand Captivate has been getting good reviews. Please help
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Xperia x10 is not out yet, but I am looking to get high end Android phone for AT&T. Any thoughts or suggestions on what should I get? Xperia has impressive specs, but I hear their UI on top of Android OS is super sluggish. On the other hand Captivate has been getting good reviews. Please help
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X10 has android 1.6 still... game over. Plus the Captivate has an extremely beautiful SAMOLED Screen, 16GB internal. Although it lacks and only has a 5MP Camera, and no LED Flash, its still a superior phone imo.
The X10 is old tech. It may just be coming out in the US now but it's been out in Canada for months. It has a decent display but it doesn't compare to the SAMOLED. It also has no multitouch support, only 256MB of RAM and 1GB internal storage. It's not bad for a midrange Android phone, but I wouldn't call it high end.
so would you recommend Captivate instead of Xperia ?
People think Samsung is slow with OS updates, Sony is just getting around to testing 2.1 for the x10!
Forget even thinking about Froyo or future (3.x) versions anytime in the near future! deal breaker right there...
Xperia X10 is a year too late to the game in US. It is seriously outdated and UI performance is also really slow from the reviews I read.
Anyone pick this up is either really uninformed or a Sony fanboy. Or both.
debby downer
Im so saddened by how Sony is playing catchup. What happened to them?
Im keeping my captivate and Im a hardcore sony fanboy. at least my ps3, tv, and headphones are kickass.
Also, the capacitive screen on the X10 is NOT multi-touch capable. EVER. It's not a 1.6 issue, it's a hardware constraint.
Long story short, pay the extra bucks for the Captivate and get a better, lighter, much faster and more future-proof phone with a strong development community.
Or go watch paint dry in the X10 subforums here as people cheer that they finally got root (5 months after ship).
Everything everyone here said its bs. If u go to the x10 forum and ask it will be exactly the oposite. The x10 is a high end device and soon will be a really big competitor. Do your research and make up your own mind do not listen to people that bash the x10 cause they dont know wtf their talking about.
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You kind of picked the wrong forum to ask this question. All the answers you get in here will be from Captivate fanboys. I have a Captivate and in my opinion, I'd rather have a non-pentile matrix LCD over a pentile matrix OLED any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Also, the Captivate has a 16GB "internal" sdcard, the Experia has an 8GB. The Xperia has 1GB internal NAND ROM, the Captivate has 512MB. The Xperia has 256MB RAM, the Captivate 512MB. The Xperia has working GPS, the Captivate doesnt. The Xperia has 8MP cam with dual LED flash, the Captivate 5MP no flash. Both have 1GHz CPU, the Captivate has the better 3D GPU. Anybody who says the Xperia is not a top end phone is just lying to themselves. Its pretty darn equal to the Evo hardware wise. Granted it does only come with Android 1.6 vs 2.1 on most other phones and even 2.2 on a few now. A lot of people seem to like the UI that sony put on it. I've never used it so I cant speak intelligently about it. Sony has said it'll be updating to 2.1 in mid Q3 or Q4 (depending on what source you read).
Its really a very solid phone and if you wait for a week or two you'll be able to pick it up from Amazon.com for $49.99.
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You kind of picked the wrong forum to ask this question. All the answers you get in here will be from Captivate fanboys. I have a Captivate and in my opinion, I'd rather have a non-pentile matrix LCD over a pentile matrix OLED any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Also, the Captivate has a 16GB "internal" sdcard, the Experia has an 8GB. The Xperia has 1GB internal NAND ROM, the Captivate has 512MB. The Xperia has 256MB RAM, the Captivate 512MB. The Xperia has working GPS, the Captivate doesnt. The Xperia has 8MP cam with dual LED flash, the Captivate 5MP no flash. Both have 1GHz CPU, the Captivate has the better 3D GPU. Anybody who says the Xperia is not a top end phone is just lying to themselves. Its pretty darn equal to the Evo hardware wise. Granted it does only come with Android 1.6 vs 2.1 on most other phones and even 2.2 on a few now. A lot of people seem to like the UI that sony put on it. I've never used it so I cant speak intelligently about it. Sony has said it'll be updating to 2.1 in mid Q3 or Q4 (depending on what source you read).
Its really a very solid phone and if you wait for a week or two you'll be able to pick it up from Amazon.com for $49.99.
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Just for clarification, my GPS on my Captivate works fine, with no problems.
Love the industrial design and the careful design of the UI with the X10, but turned-off by the screen quality. Being stuck with Android 1.6 even after it's been released for half a year is also a big no-no.
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Just for clarification, my GPS on my Captivate works fine, with no problems.
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My GPS works fine too. It pulled my location spot-on in as little as 10 seconds. Don't know why some people have problems such as taking more than a 1-2 mins or even 5 mins+.
So the X10 is running a newer version of android snr doesn't lack multitouch? I'm considering returning my captivate, but it wouldn't be replaced by an x10.
The phone's been out for almost a year if I remember correctly, and its JUST getting rooted.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate.
With the exception of the 8mp camera sensor, the Galaxy S/Captivate hardware completely trumps the Xperia.
Captivate runs 2.1> Xperia Android 1.6
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Im so saddened by how Sony is playing catchup. What happened to them?
Im keeping my captivate and Im a hardcore sony fanboy. at least my ps3, tv, and headphones are kickass.
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I am in the same boat as you i was waitin for this phone to come to att like 8 months ago, but i love my captivate
The XPERIA X10 is based on an aging platform and only has 256MB if RAM. I think its a good midend android handset in AT&Ts lineup and is priced about right, but the Captivate IMO blows it away. Not to say it isn't a good phone, but there are better phones out right now. This should have been released in Q1 2010.
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If they had released the Xperia X10 during Xmas last year, it would've been a compelling choice on AT&T. Now with Captivate enticing you with the superior SAMOLED display, and Aria being cheaper and with a more up to date software, the X10 is in a tough spot. There is not much about it that would generate a lot of buzz. If Sony had any sense, they would have spent the last couple of months getting FroYo on the phone. With that, the X10 could've been a contender.
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I am in the same boat as you i was waitin for this phone to come to att like 8 months ago, but i love my captivate
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I'm with you guys on Sony products. However, Sony's phones are by-product technologies of Ericsson that's bought by Sony. Cell phone was not Sony's strong point. I've had owned a Sony K750 and K800i (Casino Royale Edition). They still last long enough to be carried on to my family members who are not into the smartphone hypes.
I looked up the specs for the X10 at engadget mobile, it an effort to come up with an even-handed review. Basically, it comes down to how much of a hit to your wallet fifty bucks is. The X10 is more closely comparable to the Aria. It's a good midrange phone with midrange capabilities. The Captivate, however, is an iPhone killer, if they would market it properly. So, based on my experience, the advantages of the X10 over the Captivate are:
1. It's cheaper. Probably a LOT cheaper if you get it on Amazon.
2. It's narrower. The Captivate is pretty wide, like talking into a piece of toast.
3. An extra 54 rows of pixels, for that movie-theater effect.
4. An even higher-resolution barcode scanner, er, um, camera.
But as others have said, these two phones are not really in the same league.
i was going to buy the Neo 100%, but then SE annouced it will be out only in june at most places... so now im looking forward to desire S.
guys what do you think ? my only con on the neo is plasticky-gloss body.. but still i can live with it cuz design pwns.
but the desire s is still more.. sleek. but its cons are:
1) locked bootloader (if i get neo i get it unbranded and the bootloader will be unlocked later on)
2) the fail with capacitive buttons not lighting up ,and im not into them anyway hardware ftw
3) the camera quality.. its just sooo bad lol. especially compared to Neo
4) the sense UI is not sticking to me.. its overdone ,i like vanilla android (or even SE's new skin lol) better
and im not looking to other devices, becuase i like phones smaller... 3,7'' screen is just perfect
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i was going to buy the Neo 100%, but then SE annouced it will be out only in june at most places... so now im looking forward to desire S.
guys what do you think ? my only con on the neo is plasticky-gloss body.. but still i can live with it cuz design pwns.
but the desire s is still more.. sleek. but its cons are:
1) locked bootloader (if i get neo i get it unbranded and the bootloader will be unlocked later on)
2) the fail with capacitive buttons not lighting up ,and im not into them anyway hardware ftw
3) the camera quality.. its just sooo bad lol. especially compared to Neo
4) the sense UI is not sticking to me.. its overdone ,i like vanilla android (or even SE's new skin lol) better
and im not looking to other devices, becuase i like phones smaller... 3,7'' screen is just perfect
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mate desire s is quite cheap!
£329 O2. get it. wwhy do u think it was phone of the year? because it rocked!
just so that you know: se makes the worst hardware in the phones business
up there on par with samsungs plastics
for me the most important part is the exterior which has to endure the use
than the software part
xilw3r said:
i was going to buy the Neo 100%, but then SE annouced it will be out only in june at most places... so now im looking forward to desire S.
guys what do you think ? my only con on the neo is plasticky-gloss body.. but still i can live with it cuz design pwns.
but the desire s is still more.. sleek. but its cons are:
1) locked bootloader (if i get neo i get it unbranded and the bootloader will be unlocked later on)
2) the fail with capacitive buttons not lighting up ,and im not into them anyway hardware ftw
3) the camera quality.. its just sooo bad lol. especially compared to Neo
4) the sense UI is not sticking to me.. its overdone ,i like vanilla android (or even SE's new skin lol) better
and im not looking to other devices, becuase i like phones smaller... 3,7'' screen is just perfect
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I have the same dilemma. But since Xperia Neo will be delayed (or has limited release world wide) I have no choice but to get the Desire S which is my second option.
But honestly speaking...NEO is my first choice, even if it has less ROM/RAM than Desire S.
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just so that you know: se makes the worst hardware in the phones business
up there on par with samsungs plastics
for me the most important part is the exterior which has to endure the use
than the software part
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i dont really get where the hell do you get this ''se sucks at hardware'' stuff, dudes i owned 3 sony ericssons, from walkman to camera phone to P1, NONE of them broke, actually all 3 still functional. the build quality is superb, its only not metal. though my w880 is metal, true that, but all of them went through chrashes, all are fine.
metal is kind of a hype actually, good plastic is just as durable + can be easily replaced, not exatcly the thing you can do if you bend your precious unibody huh...
only the looks of that plastic suck on the new xperias, for other judgement id have to hold it in my own hands (ofc you know that pretty much 15% of all phones world wide have some factory-made faults... right?)
if i pay 500$ for a phone and i can bend it with one finger than its good enough for throwing away
and its really amazing how you found a minus in unibody
must be that you have a gift of finding sh1t in beauty
Nlt sure how much support the x10 got at xda, but it is a tradition that htc devices get all support here
(althougj this desire s forum is quite empty!!)
So take that into consideration if you like to mod your phone alot
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i think more people will start coming to this forum as the DS has dropped its price considerably
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i think more people will start coming to this forum as the DS has dropped its price considerably
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Hopefully!! But this isnt a high end phone now
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i am not questioning beauty lol. what ever gave you that idea is beyond me ... im questioning your experience with SE build quality.
anyways, even if this isnt a high end phone, it should get some support, just look at optimus one forums even x10 got pretty darn much support.
btw im now also looking into optimus 2x, since it might be even cheaper at my retailer than desire S
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i am not questioning beauty lol. what ever gave you that idea is beyond me ... im questioning your experience with SE build quality.
anyways, even if this isnt a high end phone, it should get some support, just look at optimus one forums even x10 got pretty darn much support.
btw im now also looking into optimus 2x, since it might be even cheaper at my retailer than desire S
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Same! I am considereing the lg 2x, check out my thread!
Where abouts are you based? Where can one find the 2x cheaper than the ds?
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Go for the desire s
I would go for the Desire S, as it feels much nicer.
Also HTC software i usually much better than SE
Look at the X10 as an exampel
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I would go for the Desire S, as it feels much nicer.
Also HTC software i usually much better than SE
Look at the X10 as an exampel
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yea sure compare the software that was out 1 year+ ago and totally sucked. how about you compare the NEW software ? and i hate sense. it doesnt even feel android anymore with sense lol.
Yes I do wonder how much dev support the DS will get. The Incredible S seems to be getting more attention at the moment. Personally I prefer the size and price of the DS
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Hello all,
phone market is full of phones but only few out there ticks all the boxes I need and XT720 is one of them - aside of standard Android goodies I want a good and reasonable quick camera for daily use, nice big screen, FM, TV (HDMI) out. Also, it should be affordable
It has been almost a year since it came out. One FW update bumped CPU to 720 MHz, but folks are quite happy with OC results and that combined with powerful graphics chip should be very good. Officially it's still sitting on Eclair (just as my current Hero), but unofficially there are few custom Froyo ROM's that are worth using. There are rumors about official updates... but, ehm. Yeah. Moto is known to f*** with their customers, just like HTC. It's all good when you have upper class mainstream model. If not, tough luck
So, is it still worth buying? Are you still a satisfied user? What do you think - how will XT720 withstand another year?
Buy another model...
Like SGS or Nexus S...
XT720 currently r.i.p. by motorola... so...
yes in my opinion you shouldn't support Motorola anymore..they totally ****ed up
I would dump a platonic sugar daddy that gave me a Motorola phone.
...and I wouldn't even try to take the phone with me on the way out.
Never buy year old technology, and never buy motorola!
I love mine!
If I were you, I would buy two!
Whoa, didn't expect such lack of enthusiasm . Seems there are no Android phones that have all those features found in XT720, with price that doesn't require to sell a kidney or something. And in this case - it's not worth the $$$?
Only Samsung Galaxy S comes close, but has no camera flash.
Don't pick a phone based on whether it has a flash or not
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Hello all,
phone market is full of phones but only few out there ticks all the boxes I need and XT720 is one of them - aside of standard Android goodies I want a good and reasonable quick camera for daily use, nice big screen, FM, TV (HDMI) out. Also, it should be affordable
It has been almost a year since it came out. One FW update bumped CPU to 720 MHz, but folks are quite happy with OC results and that combined with powerful graphics chip should be very good. Officially it's still sitting on Eclair (just as my current Hero), but unofficially there are few custom Froyo ROM's that are worth using. There are rumors about official updates... but, ehm. Yeah. Moto is known to f*** with their customers, just like HTC. It's all good when you have upper class mainstream model. If not, tough luck
So, is it still worth buying? Are you still a satisfied user? What do you think - how will XT720 withstand another year?
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buy one join us and **** motorola
@ gabrialxue: In other words - buy that Samsung? it's not only about flash - and yes, it's essential for my next phone because Hero doesn't have it and is annoying to use as a camera - which is more often then I thought it will be.
As I said before, all Android phones offer similar things. Like wifi, bluetooth and so on. But it's hard to find one that has:
- 854x480 or like display, cca 3,7"
- good processing power
- FM radio and HQ sound output for earphones
- TV out (analog, HDMI or both)
- decent camera with flash
Those are features that I miss... and also I must say, XT720 doesn't look so boring like any other phone. It's all the same, almost everything else is based on iPhone, HD/HD2 or Desire/Nexus design. This one is different and I like it .
Of course that can't be a reason to buy it, it's just that I thought custom ROM's and OC really make a difference in this case.
The main drawback of the XT720 is just the 256mb ram, other than that XT720 is still one of the most feature packed android phone.
HDMI, FM RADIO, XENON FLASH 8MP with HD video recording, Exceptional build quality. You can't find these specs on other models at the same time for the same price.
Anyway, don't even consider who suggests SGS because it has the ****tiest display eventho people tell it's the best. Go to a shop, experience the XT720 then decide if you'd get it.
Semseddin.
Semseddin said:
The main drawback of the XT720 is just the 256mb ram, other than that XT720 is still one of the most feature packed android phone.
HDMI, FM RADIO, XENON FLASH 8MP with HD video recording, Exceptional build quality. You can't find these specs on other models at the same time for the same price.
Anyway, don't even consider who suggests SGS because it has the ****tiest display eventho people tell it's the best. Go to a shop, experience the XT720 then decide if you'd get it.
Semseddin.
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i agree ,same thought..we need better rom..
I love this phone. With Khal's ROM everything runs very fast and I have very little complaints about the phone. My only issues are:
1) HD recording is slightly laggy
2) Often (not always) shutter lag for the camera
3) Not a lot of RAM (though Khal's ROM has little issues for me in that regard - and I use the built in task killer often so it doesn't really impact me that much).
4) Phone freezes sometimes (most often when I'm using the camera - but I'm not sure that's happened since I've been on Khal's ROM as of 2 weeks ago or so).
Other than that I love the form factor of the phone - the only phones I could say has the same appealing look to me would probably the xperia arc, or droid incredible (but even then I'm not sure they have the same metal build I love here or if they have plastic). The phone runs very fast once you get the right ROMs on and set your OC and is more than sufficient for my needs. The Xenon Flash on the camera performs amazingly and makes completely dark rooms look completely lit (I tested a bunch and was impressed). I don't know if the camera is the best - but pictures for the most part look nice to me. The video recording is sufficient for me. The screen is nice and everything looks clear on it. And the price was very good for me - meaning I'm very satisfied with what I got. (And I bought this just in Febuary knowing full well that Moto had dropped support for it - though it looks like it might get an official update from CB now or something perhaps).
As you can see from my siggy i have used phones from lg samsung nokia htc and sony im gonna tell you my xp with them
old lg phone - was nice had fm radio and sudoku game that wud entertain me for along time from 2001 -2006
lg cookie 501 - was very customizable skins , java games and 3 mp cam was good 2006 - 2008
nokia c6-01 - early ages of symbian^3 , had cool games and such but was so laggy!! the camera was awsome 8mp! with dual led 2008 - 2009
htc wildfire!! - first android , after my nokia got drowned , i bought the wildfire cause it was cheap and had good reviews , i liked htc sense 2.1
but was unsatisfied cause it was stuck on froyo.. sense made it more laggier! but the 5mp cam was ok but worse then the c6-01. 2009 - 2010
galaxy mini - was an awsome phone that had alot of custom roms!! released on gingerbread , 600mhz was ok 3mp cam was a really big
downgrade!!! the fact i like this phone is the custom roms it felt new when i got rid of touchwhiz 2.. 2010 - 2011 sept
and finally
xperia ray - current phone 1ghz 512mb ram , gb > ics > soon jellybean , exmor r sensor 8mp! 9mm , this was amazing the support that sony has is amazing and so durable. it made stay for the nxt sony phone 2011 sept - PACMAN ROM!!
NEXUS 4!- waiting for it
so tell me guys about ur phones experience
-.- english aint my native language
I had a Nokia 2720 from 2009 to mid 2010. Way too simple of a phone.
Then I got a Motorola EM330. Just as simple as the Nokia, but had microSD expansion so I could store my music.
In November of 2011, I decided to get my first taste of Android. I got a Motorola Cliq. Many ROMs but was a lag beast. 5mp shooter. Terrible and no flash.
December 2011. Bought a used LG Ally off eBay. It was a step up in speed, step down in camera (3.2mp but with LED flash), big jump in pixel density and screen resolution, but only had a small handful of ROMs.
January 2012, I got a Motorola Droid due to high development and a recent ICS port. Nice large screen and high DPI, good 5mp camera with dual LED flash, but definitely had great development. First of my phones with Adobe Flash. Such a cool factor.
March 2012, I received a temporary Droid 2. With a 1GHz processor, I had high expectations... but was disappointed by the lag when loading pages with lots of pictures such as phonearena or phonedog. I definitely noticed a speed increase in gaming compared to my other phones, however. Updated to unrootable firmware and to this day the only phone I have owned that is still on stock ROM. Same cam as Droid 1.
Late June, 2012. I bought a Motorola Flipside to replace my Motorola Cliq which was still my phone for calling/texting. Awful development and awful memory, but speedy processor and good enough RAM. CM7 and link2sd saved me, thankfully. 3.1mp no autofocus the worst smartphone camera I've used.
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I know i'll probably forget a few,
My first phone was a Nokia 8210 then 8310, 7210, 3650, 9210, 9500, E61i the best phone I have ever used, E71 was fast but lacked the E61i grip, a few 1100 and that sort of phones, currently i got the X1, dual Sim and both works at the same time which is great for a $35 phone that has a slot for micro SD up to 16 GB.
Blackberry 7270 First blackberry with bluetooth, BBM v1 was hit back in the day, 9500, 9000, 8910, 8250, 9700, 9800, 9900
Sony Ericsson W900i, T68 great phones, If i can remember correctly T68 was the first phone to have colors
Android HTC Dream (T-mobile G1) great phone i still remember people used to switch the trackball of this phone to a Blackberry, Alcatel One Touch 991 current phone, just unlocked it and I'd be using more and more of it, fast for it's value €100, battery life isn't that great, barely hold a day, but with that price I didn't expect more.
iPhone 3G, 3Gs, 4, 4s, they only lasted a week after iPhone 4, but I wasn't a big fan of no flash where others manufactures had a greater specs.
iMate JASJAM oh man, GPRS, Windows Live Messenger and all of that reminds me of the good old days, pre-iphone generation kids now adays wouldn't know how it felt.a
Palm can't recall the model or when I had it, i know it was there somewhere.
Java has it's touch too with games and apps
I can't recall anymore phones, would update if I remembered, thanks OP for the great Subject, you brought a lot of good memories
Experience with my phones
I do not remember some of them. But i got excellent experience with my cell phones. I do remember I git Nokia N10 initiall. It was nice phone though not much features.
Then i moved towards NOkia Cell phones. It was a great Experience. I used Nokia 1112 with FM, and some other features also nice keypad. I also used Nokia 1110 and Nokia 103. All are cool sets. Very reliable and worth full indeed
My first was a Nokia 8310, then a 9500. Then I went on a Motorola spree with some silver flip-phone pieces of ****, followed by a RAZR. Tried a Blackberry Pearl 8310 for a while. Now I am on a Samsung Infuse 4G.
What motivates me to try a new phone? Price. I am a cheap SOB, and am willing to use slightly outdated tech to save a buck. The total out-of-pocket cost for all of the above phones is a whopping $0.01 U.S. which I paid for my latest Infuse.
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My first cell phone N343i, and I think that was somewhere around 2005. At the time I had actually no use for a cell phone, but I just had to have a cell phone for "all the other" kids had one. So after lots of looking around I found that one, and got it prepaid. I think I haven't sent more than a twenty messages with it, and nothing else. The screen got cracked over the years, but I still have it somewhere.
I think I carried it about a year and a half, and then I decided not to have any cell phone at all until there seemed the need for it again, and that was somewhere early in 2009. I got myself a nice Samsung C3050. The only requirements I had at the time were that it had the possibility to have MP3 ringtones. In the end that was a silly thing to go for, since I always had my phone on vibrate, so I really never heard the MP3 ringtone. I carried that one until a month ago, since it sometimes would power off for no reason, and sometimes it didn't even turn on. Then I moved to my dad's old N97 mini. The screen is good, but the software underneath it was so-so. Symbian didn't work as I wanted it to, and I longed for an Android phone.
I noticed the Xperia Miro, and that's the one I have now. The screen is a downgrade from the N97 mini resolution-wise, but I just didn't want to spend a lot of money on a cell phone. I don't think I need the high specs, since there is nothing spectacular that I will be doing on it. And, I don't think I should spend that much money on a single thing considering I work just a couple days at minimum wage. There are more important things than a fast cell phone! (Believe it or not. I'm quite a fan of books, and those need to be bought too.)
My next device will most likely be something top of the range, but that is just because I expect to have a better job by then.
Totally satisfied with sgs2..
I'm using sgs2 for a year now and thanks to developers that I don't have to buy a new phone due to fast android development. I'm testing JB on my device and my company yet to release JB updates. Hats off to developers.
First phone was some Motorola which had black white screen. It also had that sexy antenna on the top. It was a good phone, don't remember much.
The next one was I guess the first Ericsson phone(later Sony Ericsson). It didn't have any games or changeable ringtones, you could only text and call with it.
The next one was Nokia 3310. Yes, THE Nokia. I liked it, every one was jealous at me, cause it was so cool! It had the original Snake game
After that I had a couple of Nokia Symbian phones. They all sucked! I hate Symbian! It was slow and buggy, it made me mad
Sony Ericsson K550i. The best phone till the date. It had good camera, led flash light, java games(I literally had two thousand games on it!) and WalkMan music player! Awesome phone,I remember we threw that phone outside on rocks and asphalt(drunk...) and there was no scratches or cracks anywhere! I sold the phone later with a decent price.
Sony Ericsson W890. Again, awesome phone. I was a big fan out SE those days. It was a flip phone, and when the flip was closed, the button lights on top of the phone turned on and you could play music using those capacitive buttons! There was also a 1" screen above the buttons. You can only imagine how jelly everybody was...
That phone however, did break. It just didn't turn on
ZTE Blade, it was great at start. My first real smart phone(Android, baby!). It had fairly big development scene, not in XDA though. It also had official Cyanogenmod support. This phone was extremely slow, and upgraded it after a rough year.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc. Great camera, looked good, but it was slow too. Upgraded it after two months. I just wasn't satisfied.
Samsung Galaxy S2. This phone's a beast. Dual core, decent camera, AMOLED screen, huge development scene etc. I love this big boy Bought it like three months ago.
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My first phone was the SE W710i. I really liked the thing although it was really thick. unfortunately it got stolen after 5 weeks.
my second phone was the SE S500i. again a SE phone this one looked nicer than the W710i but the keys on the keypad started breaking in half. I sent it back for repair, after repaired I used it for another 1,5 years.
Third phone was the Nokia 3110c, b/c my S500i was broken for good someone gave me this phone. I didn't like it, it was very slow, the screen sucked (very low resolution and ****ty colors).
4th phone was the ZTE Blade (still got it). this was my thirst android phone. It had a very active community, so within 2 days I tested more than 5 different roms. The real downsides of this phone are the old (slow) armv6 cpu, the ****ty camera and the low headset volume.
Now I have the SGS+ i9001 I really like it, but I would like the official cm support which I was used to have on my blade.
My first phone was a Motorola Adventure V750 that I used from April 2009-April 2011. Good lord the thing was frustrating to use! It constantly froze and rebooted itself; it was a pain to text; couldn't do anything on it (tried to get games on it, but no dice!).. Bleh. It was good for being almost indestructible though!
Second phone was a Nokia E71 from April 2011-April 2012. I love it. The keyboard is great, it's durable, has a nice design... almost perfect. Though it did tend to get laggy for almost no reason, and the version of Symbian its running is pretty outdated looking. Regularly use it when I don't want to take my newest phone out...
Currently I use a Samsung Galaxy Note i717 that I got in April this year. It is a terrific phone; the screen is nice and large and crisp, it's very smooth and responsive and Android has a ton of great apps/features. I love this phone.
I've owned 4 different Sony Ericsson, love all of them! Right now using Xperia Pro, first time using custom kernel and ROM, pretty buggy..... still trying to figure them out.
My favorite is the HTC HD2, before Samsung Omnia i900, HTC Trinity (very nice phone), many of nokia models. At this time I think about Samsung G S3 but I still love my HD2.
I've owned a number of whatever blah cell phones that I've gotten for free with service contracts and all that, but the greatest phone of all was the LG enV. Loved that little keyboard, never texted faster in my life. Plus I got a pretty sick Nip/Tuck game that would gross out my friends. HTC Incredible comes second, with my current Inc2 right behind it. Droid 3 sux the worst.
For me the worst was motorola e365, I had too many problems with that phone and 2 days after finish guarante the phone was dead. From that time I never bought nothing made by motorola.
I think my telephone is the better!!! It is the lg optimus one..i have it for 2 years and i can say that you can do everything with this amazing phone!!!
Sorry for my bad english
My favourite android phone is xFone C2- one 3G Ice Cream Sandwich SmartPhone. 6 inch Capatitive Multi-Touch Screen is perfect for me.i have kept it for 1 year now.
Nokia 6100 - first phone back in the day was still young didnt know a lot about phones was happy with it; second I can recall was Nokia 6020 this one came with a camera didnt really feel an upgrade, ive gone with this one for a while till i got a present a nokia 7070 used it until I accidentally left it in a pocket of a vest which went in to the washing machine... Rip was quite a good one, then I got a blackberry 8320 somehow lost it one day, it was my first blackberry and was just in love with the keyboard, was writing everything that came to my mind lol... then I got a nokia n73 from a friend which I use until today, along with a xperia x10, but will go out hunting for something bigger and better in a few weeks.
I had few nokia, Those thing always work! I was young, i dropped them, throw them, etc!
SHC-U740. Dual flip. I was sure i would destroy that phone! It held on good! Viva el QWERTY phone.
Now I have a Vision. No problem so far but I just can't wait to have new QWERTY phone. The Vision Spec are quite low for ICS&JB.
HTC Rezound: Amazing Camera and audio! It was kind of slow... The screen was extremely sharp but had poor colors and outside visibility. Took forever to get ICS... Htc sense is a beast but overall, this phone was good.
Galaxy s3 (U.S. Version): Incredibly snappy, s4 processor is a beast and easily matches/outperforms quad cores. The gpu is also great but not as good as the Exynos ones... The screen is absolutely amazing, it has the best white-balance and contrast of any amoled screen. I also installed the bravia engine and pentile is unnoticeable. I have android 4.1.1 (still beta) and most things are buttery smooth... Camera is amazing too.
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SAMSUNG GALAXY POCKET - i accidentally brick my phone but its already unbricked now