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[Q] Should I make the switch to Android?

Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?

Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
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Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?

It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert

narcoustic said:
It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?

I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.

I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.

The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.

Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
Code:
http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O

One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.

narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it

Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!

After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department

Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz

[Q] Best Android Phone for my Needs?

So for the past few weeks I have been lurking the forum and such, and only just got around to registering.. and this is my first post.. so bear with me
It's my birthday in about 3 weeks, and I'm somewhat tempted to spend the money I get on an Android phone, to replace my dying iPod Touch 2G and also my crummy £10 phone.
So, what I could say I need in a Android phone is -
Value for money.
Decent music playback (Minimal hissing etc. I understand that the default music player at the moment is crap, but with Gingerbread should come a much improved one).
Nice touchscreen.
And if at all possible, an official or unofficial upgrade to 2.3 or well, updates in the future. I would hate to buy a phone which suddenly was dead in the water after 2 months!I understand it can depend on the phone and such as well. I do understand that unofficial updates depend on the model and such etc.
Unlockable.
I originally looked around and saw the ZTE Blade, I was really surprised at the value for money and huge amount of unofficial development in terms of updates.. and it looked perfect! But I heard it's music playback leaves much to be desired sadly.
If anyone could reccomend an Android phone which you think would fit my needs, I would really appriciate it to be honest haha
I would say my budget is £150 or so.
Thanks in advance, and a (somewhat) belated happy new year ,
KILLTHATWHA.
Other details -
From what I have looked at.. the HTC Wildfires resolution was really low, which put me off that model..
The camera can be terrible for all I care, I have a decent Pentax one which I use..
Gaming ability isn't really a huge thing for me either, but a decent CPU would be a bonus, since it would means the can potentially get more updates.

I would say get an HD2. They have an 1 GHz Snapdragon processor and a hefty 576MB of RAM. Even though it's not actually an Android phone, you can easily turn it into one.

little13193 said:
I would say get an HD2. They have an 1 GHz Snapdragon processor and a hefty 576MB of RAM. Even though it's not actually an Android phone, you can easily turn it into one.
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As awesome as that phone is.. it costs a hefty £300-£350! That over double my budget :/

You can grab an used HD2 for a decent price, not much more than a ZTE blade (unless you are in the UK and can buy directly from Orange).
But if you are looking for a new phone the ZTE really looks great for its price.

Faenad said:
You can grab an used HD2 for a decent price, not much more than a ZTE blade (unless you are in the UK and can buy directly from Orange).
But if you are looking for a new phone the ZTE really looks great for its price.
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I am in the UK haha, so I would be buying it directly from Orange probably So would you say the \ZTE is my best option?

Your really low price seriously limits your options (for buying new, anyway).
I was looking at budget Android devices (sub £200) recently for the ladyfriend, and the only real options I could find were hTC Wildfire, LG Optimus GT540 & SE Experia Mini.
Having played with a friends WF I can tell you that the screen is - as feared - shockingly bad, but quite responsive (it's pushing less pixels after all).
About Android's music player, someone has rebuilt it with a slightly improved UI and a couple of new features (appropriately dubbed 'music mod'), it's quite nice, can't comment on sound quality unfortunately.
As for the blade, if you can get one it doesn't seem like a bad way to go. You do get a nice screen (as opposed to WF), but only 256mb of RAM which is a *serious* issue (WF has 384mb). They have the same CPU but the blade has a marginally higher frequency.

for your budget id reccomend rhe oeange san francisco. scout around and you can pick it up for about £100, and unlock it for free at modaco. then have. look at movin to giffgaff for the cheap internet

killthatwha said:
I am in the UK haha, so I would be buying it directly from Orange probably So would you say the \ZTE is my best option?
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yes, for the price it's an awesome deal. And the community support and interest seems decent.

ZTE Blade does seem like the best option but as Android upgrades begin to utilise more system resources older phones will be left behind. Just consider that you are buying a *first generation* device, those specs were impressive on the Droid a year ago, but not so today.

Which phone will become the HD2 successor? (dev love)

Hello everyone, this is yet another "which phone should I get" thread, so if you are sick of them please move on but I would be grateful for every input.
So up to now I have been using N900 which to me is a very good device, with a lot of room to improve of course, but lack off Nokia's support has just pissed me off. I'm a heavy google user (gmail, calendar & stuff) so android seems like a natural progression. Now, since I have N900 I'm obviously into modding and stuff I'm looking for a very similar android device. Atm that would be HTC HD2, the thing is I consider this phone just too old, I'm looking for a fairly new device, possibly not even out yet, which is sure to get a lot of love from xda and other devs. So yeah, I'm not even sure if it's possible to foretold which device will become the new HD2 in the android world, perhaps it has something to do with open hardware drivers, hope you guys have a better clue. I plan to stick with this phone for another 1,5 year and I just can't afford 2 smart phones at the same time, so I'm basically looking for the best long term investment.
Please, note that I'm from Europe, where not all devices are available or will be delayed. I can probably wait with the purchase until May. I don't have any preferences towards particular brand.
Thank you for your help,
YUMad

my guess is ull have to wait for the fist 4+" dual core htc device for all the htc folks to jump ship

We should wait a cycle of 2-3 yr until that super device replacement arrives, that´s the usual but anything can happen!

With the speed of phones developing these days, won't be 2-3 years. More like half a year to one year.

I don't think you could really answer this question. No one will know until the phone has been released.

As of right now, there's no worthy HD2 successor yet. HTC ups their high-end phone every year (diamond 2008, blackstone 2009, HD2 2010, etc) so cross your fingers for that mythical 1.5ghz dual-core snapdragon hopefully by the end of this year...

In my opinion, The HD2 is still one of the biggest power houses on the market. A 1 ghz processor. Yea there making awesome phones, but very few of them are being made with the components that are within the HD2. Correct me if I'm wrong. Its a stacked phone and you pair it with an Android ROM, and its right up there with anything else.

Oh well, guess it wasn't that hard to convince me. I'm getting HD2 and will slowly watch how the things unfold. Thanks everyone!

How about a poll?
I agree that the HD2 is getting too old to buy as a new phone. I think the step change we've all been looking forward to is coming in the forms of the dual core processor phones due this year. I think it will be a choice along the lines of:
1. Motorola Atrix
2. LG Optimus 2x
3. Other Android device
4. Other WP7 device
I have been a die hard HTC fan since 2002 so I wish I could vote for Option 3 but I just can't wait so I pick Option 1.
See http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37892/lg-optimus-2x-vs-motorola-atrix-4g

The point is you can't just look at any mobile you'd like, compare it specs to HD2 and say, all right we have a rightful successor, there are many other factors to consider. Again, I'm not a developer myself so I don't know much about the whole process but for example N900 still doesn't have a full android experience ported and that is due to closed nature of it's hardware drivers rather than hardware limitations. Also, as far as I know this forum was/is mostly about HTC handsets so I believe a HTC product will be heavly favoured.

I just got a hd2, no box in brand new condition for 140 so I hope the development love is sustained. I will try and help with graphics.

You really will like the HD2. I got mine for 49 bucks when my contract was up for my blackberry a couple months back. Ive loved it. So many different options to choose from and the custom ROM's just add to the mix. I just put the new NAND Android ROM on mine and it runs flawlessly. Not 1 issue soo far and it is freaking fast. No offense to Windows, but Android software is second to none. Like I said earlier, match these two things together, and you will have a powerhouse thats just as good, possibly even way better than the Droid 2 and Evo 4G. I'd recommend getting this phone...But I do recommend that you upgrade to Android. Any questions, just leave me a message.

hd2
there is no phone who can beat hd2 maybe the samsun galaxy s how ever we will wait for the 1.5 ghz phone but the hd2 is thé phone!!!!

There's no way of knowing, because manufacturers rightfully don't release information on the hardware that would be important in identifying an "HD2 successor". What made the HD2 so amazing was the completely unlocked bootloader/NAND. Plus the hardware on it was ahead of its time. People talk about the phone as if it was a 2010 phone, not even realizing it came out in November 2009!
HTC Vision may be the 2011 version but no one knows for sure.

i personally think HD2 has a couple of years left ...
every manufacturer accidently makes a phone that amazez every one
For instance Motorola had mm L7 few years back it was modded till i finally bricked it same is the case with HD2. i mean with so many developers working on this phone i think there is more to come. As far as succesor is concerned well im no programmer but each os is processor dependant. As long as they keep recipe the same we can be looking into a new Super moddable phone
P.S i dont think dual core or that crap would change much, as long as we have so many choices on HD2 im still drooling over it

phone changes a lot,i can catch this fashion.

For decent replace I would go to Motorola Atrix or how I heard Milestone in Europe...

I <3 my HD2
best phone I ever bought
for development/much tweaks you need an older phone the older the more been developped plus the HD2 has a series of great dev's
plus MIUI on HTC HD2 is so much more than iphone
I wanted an iphone 4 lately, some guy wanted to talk me into trading it,
then I tried and I hate that the iphone only has one button, it's not as responsive. next to that all icons are in homescreen, you can only make maps, in android you can switch between launcher or homescreen, and so on..
No newer phone at the market really makes me say 'wow' atm, but I can't deny I look every day, for u successor.
When will I make the step?
- Water and dustproof
- glass better then gorillaglas
- 4G / 5G
- 10 MP cam
- android
- SUPERB batterylife
- good antenna
- DLNA
- HDMI
- WIFI N
- VOICE COMMANDS IN MY LANGUAGE
I don't care who makes it but I'll get it

HD2 is power monster , it can do anything . no other phone can handle that much load

shattered screen
Someone accidentally made my HD2 drop and shattered the screen with a sofa smashing her against the wall. I was quoted $150 US by ubreakifix to replace the screen. I can't wait to get if fixed even though the HTC One S is $200 plus $20/month for 20 months. Yes the One S sports modern specs but it is not as gorgeous as the HD2.
I borrowed my daughter's HD2 and gave her the iPhone 3GS. She was not happy. Even though she is not using a data plan.
I want a Windows Phone which hackers can tweak to run Android. But nothing less than the HTC HD2.
Windows Phone 8 is a long way.

[Q] So has anyone been put off?

So has anyone been put off by this device and the initial (lack of) reviews and comments from other posters?
I was 100% sure to get it, but held out a few days and now kind of feel 75% sure and wondering now whether to wait for the Evo 3D or even wait a few more months and see what else HTC will bring to the table.
I'm no Samsung fanboy and personally hate my gf's galaxy but i still think HTC haven't shouted enough about this device to persuade me that it's their flagship device like the Desire was last year.
I know it's early days and there is still time for sense to be updated but i'm just not feeling any hype about it.
I wish people with the device would make more threads about their experiences with it. At the moment it seems there are just a few threads floating about.
I've yet to see a good battery thread with praise or complaints....This..to me is the big deciding factor. Since my Desire, with heavy usage, can barely got 4 hours I know pretty much anything can beat it, but it'd be nice to have a device where i can have all my widgets and syncing going on without the worry of needing to charge it at lunch time.

Htc holiday
NEW HTC DEVICE TO COME: HTC HOLIDAY
Look here :
http://www.talkandroid.com/41135-htc-holiday-lead-atts-new-lte-phones
The folks over at Pocketnow have discovered — thanks to some details on a few leaked ROM’s — that HTC is planning two new LTE phones for AT&T, the HTC Holiday and HTC Lead. Some of the specs we know are:
•Both have 1.2 gig dual-core processors
•The Holiday has 1 GB of internal RAM while the Lead has 768 MB
•The Lead has a 4.3-inch WVGA screen, while the Holiday has a 4.5-inch qHD display
•The Lead has only a 5 MP rear camera, while the Holiday has a front 1.3 MP camera and a 8 MP rear camera
•The Lead supports Bluetooth 3.0 while the Holiday supports Bluetooth 4.0
•Both phones run the Qualcomm MSM8660 baseband chip for HSPA+ and LTE support, as well as the Adreno 220 GPU

beautyangel said:
NEW HTC DEVICE TO COME: HTC HOLIDAY
Look here :
http://www.talkandroid.com/41135-htc-holiday-lead-atts-new-lte-phones
The folks over at Pocketnow have discovered — thanks to some details on a few leaked ROM’s — that HTC is planning two new LTE phones for AT&T, the HTC Holiday and HTC Lead. Some of the specs we know are:
•Both have 1.2 gig dual-core processors
•The Holiday has 1 GB of internal RAM while the Lead has 768 MB
•The Lead has a 4.3-inch WVGA screen, while the Holiday has a 4.5-inch qHD display
•The Lead has only a 5 MP rear camera, while the Holiday has a front 1.3 MP camera and a 8 MP rear camera
•The Lead supports Bluetooth 3.0 while the Holiday supports Bluetooth 4.0
•Both phones run the Qualcomm MSM8660 baseband chip for HSPA+ and LTE support, as well as the Adreno 220 GPU
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Chances of it coming to UK is minimal though

enjoying my sensation since Friday morning, still very happy with this phone, flawless all the time.

everyday48 said:
enjoying my sensation since Friday morning, still very happy with this phone, flawless all the time.
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Elaborate on the battery please, it's my biggest deal breaker

Its a bit too early too comment, a few cycles in is the perfect time to comment... out of the box battery will obviously be a lot different to what it will be like in a couple of weeks of usage.

Jas_932 said:
Its a bit too early too comment, a few cycles in is the perfect time to comment... out of the box battery will obviously be a lot different to what it will be like in a couple of weeks of usage.
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personally, i'm still not convinced by that argument. I've had my fair share of phones and never seen a difference....I think the fact that the user stops using it as much as when in the honeymoon period, thus seems like the battery is better...

Yeh, that is one way of looking at it, but you also find the settings that are best for you and your own usage of the phone, thus making it easier to manage the battery usage... such as brightness of the screen... what apps you use etc and etc. There is unfortunately, a million and one ways to look at the argument
The biggest and best question i would ask people, is are they HAPPY with the phone? if not, why? and if so, why?

Jas_932 said:
Its a bit too early too comment, a few cycles in is the perfect time to comment... out of the box battery will obviously be a lot different to what it will be like in a couple of weeks of usage.
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I am happy with this phone.
battery, if you don't play lots of game or browse website, it can last 1 day. battery is always the big issue with smart phones.

Root it and you never stop using it
Barff1984 said:
personally, i'm still not convinced by that argument. I've had my fair share of phones and never seen a difference....I think the fact that the user stops using it as much as when in the honeymoon period, thus seems like the battery is better...
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Looks like those HTC's won't be coming to the UK...for AT&T and LTE.

Also nobody knows when the Holiday and Lead are coming out. Nor when the GSM version of the Evo 3D are coming out. If you need a new phone there's not much point in waiting for an unspecified future date in the hopes of something better as something better is always coming (don't forget the rumours that Samsung will release a new flagship every 6 months). If you just want a new cell phone and can handle to wait then sure, go ahead.
As for the reviews... I get the impression that HTC was pressed for time. Not exactly rushed, but close to it. If you recall the ROMs on some of the preliminary models shown in hands-ons were only using one core and they supposedly had a firmware upgrade just before releasing. Add to that the bad press over the preliminary benchmarks which were worse than the Nexus One and maybe HTC didn't want to hand out review units until it was completely ready (which I get the impression was the actual launch of the device). We know Slashgear is getting a review ready and I think it's safe to assume GSMArena is too so I just wait a bit more. If you aren't convinced then go with another phone which does convince you. The important thing is that you be happy with whatever decision you make.

not been put off and its very logical there are no real reviews yet...official launch worldwide is about somewhere in june.. only vodafone has now the exclusivity plus the phone has not been sent to reviewers yet !

I have . . . paused. I really wanted it, but the lack of praise on this forum has made me wonder. But I really I cant see myself with the galaxy II. My gf has the Galaxy s and whilst its quick, i miss the heft of my HD2 when i hold it.
So it feels alot like the Sensation, with or without shortcomings, is the only other path right now. Does anyone else feel that way?

freedirk said:
I have . . . paused. I really wanted it, but the lack of praise on this forum has made me wonder. But I really I cant see myself with the galaxy II. My gf has the Galaxy s and whilst its quick, i miss the heft of my HD2 when i hold it.
So it feels alot like the Sensation, with or without shortcomings, is the only other path right now. Does anyone else feel that way?
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The quality of the device is fantastic. It feels really nice, the screen is amazing. The new qHD display is nice, bit different from the WVGA, and I think I already prefer it.
Missing root but I hope (really hope) this will come

I have no doubt root will come. Nothing is ever unbeatable. No employee is not disgruntled enough, no certainty is ever certain.
Patience. And thanks for telling me that. I need to hear it

Just waiting for root and I'll be jumping to buy one. I need a front facing camera and as I'm completely happy with the Desire HD this is a step up of the same plus the added speed. Keep looking at the SGSII but that plastic is sooooooo off putting
This forum has spoilt us and we're getting picky now
One wonders what device we'll be carrying 5 years from now
By the way, don't count on root coming real soon - have a read whats going on in Incredible S
ps. Congrats to the folks with this awesome device in hand!

abuserkadayf said:
not been put off and its very logical there are no real reviews yet...official launch worldwide is about somewhere in june.. only vodafone has now the exclusivity plus the phone has not been sent to reviewers yet !
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...been intending on signing up and posting a few bits but have been too lazy recently, but I shall do so now.
The above is what I was going to say. The phone hasn't been launched properly yet, it's effectively just Vodafone customers getting a bit of a pre-release taster. I wouldn't be surprised if we're also being used as a bit of a test group so that they can see what we like/don't like and what needs fixing/ramping up in future releases. I also expect the ROM that's shipped with the general release phones to be updated from what we've got, considering that they have a month of user testing to look at.
As for the phone, I haven't transferred my number over yet and I can't use my T-Mobile SIM as although allows me to text and call, it doesn't seem to want to allow Internet on my phone. So although I've played with it, I haven't really 'used' it yet. It seems really, really nice though. Screen is lovely and going back to using my Hero today feels like going back to some lo-res toy!
Couple of things I'll say aren't too good:
The LED notification is really hard to see compared to the full blown 100 megawatt light on my hero.
The browser, although really good, doesn't seem to like full flash sites. I was trying to watch a few highlights videos from ehlhockey.tv and it was really struggling, but that may just be me or the dire, dire design of the site as full flash sites are made by the devil himself!!
Battery will need a bit more time, but I took the phone off charge at about 6pm last night and checked it at 7am this morning and it was still on 100% with WiFi on. I think HTC have somehow discovered perpetual energy. If it's on 100% when I get back tonight then I'm going to be hooking it up to the mains in the house and living off of the free HTC electricity!

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Battery will need a bit more time, but I took the phone off charge at about 6pm last night and checked it at 7am this morning and it was still on 100% with WiFi on. I think HTC have somehow discovered perpetual energy. If it's on 100% when I get back tonight then I'm going to be hooking it up to the mains in the house and living off of the free HTC electricity!
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Haha good stuff. But don't stop there. notify the power companies and hook it up to the national grid before another Sensation user does it HTC might be on to a real winner with the battery

First impressions
As you can see from my signature, I've had a broad range of OSs and devices in my hand, and must admit, going from a much played-with HD2 to this Sensation is the biggest jump advancing jump I've made.
The HD2 made upgrading a hard choice, we were spoilt with that, so on doing my research, playing with many Samsungs, Motorolas, Nokias etc (much to the annoyance of shop staff) none of them made any impression above 'meh' in a lot of my criteria other than the Sensation.
I've been bullying this poor thing for 48 hours now, and there has only been one glitch - HTC sync decided not to play for about 20 mins, but after Win7 forced a driver upon it, it was very fluid. The same as the rest of my experiences of this device.
I've got an overlap of contracts this month so i've been testing real-world 3g usage on both O2 and Vodafone, and must say, this battery life is like a backpack worth of battery compared to the HD2, on a par with the large-ish one in the X1.

[Q] HTC Sensation or HTC Desire S

Hello,
Next month I'll be moving to UK, according to this I'll be choosing new operator, new plan and of course, new mobile phone. I've been searching on the internet for a phone that might suit my needs. I ended up at HTC Sensation or Desire S. Whichever plan I'm looking at, Sensation is always about 100 pounds more expensive than Desire S. My question is; is Sensation worth those extra 100 pounds? Or is Desire S a better deal?
I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
HTC seems as a high quality phone, manufactured well and that's important for me (no plastic such as Samsung). That's the reason I go for HTC.
I don't know anything about rooting and modifyng yet, but I read that every model has different possibilities; I'd like to hear differences between those two even in this area. This acts a big part!
I'd describe myself as an intermediate user, I like to suit everything to my needs. What I expect from my future phone:
-daily email and IM contact
-fast while multitasking
-battery capacity acts a big role in my decision
-great google calendar integration, as well as Facebook or any other IM
-good camera (Desire S is okay for me)
-Dropbox - access to my cloud
-as a student, I'll need to work with documents (.pdf .doc .xls)
-as a Linux user, good integration with Linux OS on my laptop
-occasionally use of GPS (moving to a new country)
-display that is clear outdoors (I'm afraid, HTC is not the best at this point)
-not being a pain while having it in my pocket - I mean, not a super huge monster (I'm afraid, Sensation is too big)
-generally, a phone that will last 2 years
I am open to new possibilities (HTC Cha Cha?). I guess both of them are well on hardware, this should not be an issue - but I might be wrong!
So which one would you suggest me? Invest a bit more into Sensation? Maybe some ideas from current users? I would really appreciate any response here, as I am completely lost and don't want to regret my decision in future!
P.S. Some suggestion about UK providers might be usefull as well
Thanks in advance!
-Uhro

Just my 0.02c Uhro, so feel free to disregard :
I have only limited experience with the Desire S, but have used an Incredible S (same hardware) extensively and own a Sensation. I'm a long-time fan of HTC phones, they're reasonably well-built and I'm a fan of Sense (it's one of those things you either love or hate, I think). The major downsides of their current handsets are poor loudspeakers and mediocre cameras.
I enjoyed my Incredible S far more than I enjoy my Sensation. For a powerful handset, it seems to struggle with a lot of things. I'm sure this is only due to Sense 3.0, but it still shouldn't happen. The day-to-day performance of my Incredible S blew it away, in both speed and fluidness of operation. I don't buy into the whole 'dual-core is better' argument just yet; the only dual-core phone I've had that actually 'felt' like a dual-core is the Motorola Atrix.
Screen quality is a well-raised issue with the Sensation. There are two, possibly more, screen variants available and they occur at random. I guess I was lucky; my Sensation has the Sharp screen. While colour reproduction and picture quality are about even (I've had lots of opportunity to compare), the 'ghosting' exhibited while scrolling through the browser and UI differs greatly, with the Sharp unit seeming superior. I have to say that in terms of screens, the Incredible S was far better; only the IPS on the LG Optimus 2x has been in the same league (to me) so far.
If specs aren't important to you, and everyday fluidness and performance in the UI are, I'd suggest the Desire S, or Incredible S if that's also an option. I found it just as zippy as the Incredible, although the screen was a little small for me. They're comparable in weight, and the Sensation actually isn't a whole lot bigger.
For HTC phones, they must have a lock removed on the phone memory before anything can be modified. You'll see this referred to as 'S-OFF'. Once S-OFF is obtained (there are software utilities available, plus a hardware solution exists) you can flash any ROM, Recovery, Radio etc. that is supported. I'd suggest browsing the forums for both devices to see which options appeal most.
Sorry for the long-winded response, hope this helps somewhat

The Sensation might be a good idea if you're on a contract/term and are trying to stay "futureproof". The Sensation does have its kinks, but they're being worked out constantly.

+1 for Desire S

i prefer sensation，desire s just like desire, changed a bit not much

Sensation ALLL THE WAYYYYYYY
Get the sensation. DO IT.
It's just been released and the ROM isn't as polished as the ones before like the desire/incredible/etc that's all.
BTW as far as smoothness goes, a Custom ROM should resolve anything pretty easily with a few minutes of work. The dual Core will make it a much better purchase as far as Future proofing is concerned.
The QHD screen is another reason to go for the sensation. If you are worried about the price just wait for a few more months. (If you can, that is! )

Thanks a lot guys for the responses! I'm a bit puzzled right now, maybe my 'lucky coin' should decide for me, pitty I don't have one yet
I think that my personal feelings will decide, while I will see both of them, display quality, and how do they both fit into my hands.. Because I see, that both of them have pros and cons.. Still a month to go, so many things or offers might change..
Anyway, big thanks for your experiences!

Uhro said:
I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
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the sensation has a much bigger community here on xda than the desire. if you plan on modding your phone, this is good news for you (because there is more development going on for the sensation than the desire; more development=more roms and kernels=more customization)