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[Q] Should I make the switch to Android?

Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?

Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
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Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?

It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert

narcoustic said:
It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?

I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.

I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.

The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.

Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
Code:
http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O

One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.

narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it

Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
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I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!

After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department

Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz

HTC Desire HD or Samsung Galaxy S?

hope i'm posting this in the right forum...
Which should i get? Some thoughts:
HTC Desire HD
- i don't mind the extra size or heft compared to the SGS
- main concern was battery life, although it seems this is just a matter of removing some apps and/or calibrating the battery
- internal storage, while small compared to SGS, is not a big concern: 1.5Gb should be enough right?
Samsung Galaxy S
- main concern is the flimsy back cover...although the obvious workaround is to buy a hard case
- Gorilla Glass is a big plus for me
i really don't care much about the UI -- TouchWiz seems OK, Sense i hear is not too shabby either.
What do you guys think? tia

Well, I just bought new phone and I when I was in the shop just having a browse, I had my eye on a HD2 for a while so was time to get one. Still interested in seeing what new device were like I tried out a Samsung Galaxy S first.
My initial thought was how light it was, I don't like light phones as I feel like I'll lose it easier lol. Also I was looking for 4.3" screen phone and SGS doesn't have one. Also touch input seemed weird, maybe it was how light it was and I wasn't used to it.
I put it down and turned on the Desire HD. Wow, felt right in my hand perfectly and I can feel the weight and coldness from its aluminum body. Touch input was awesome, those capacitive buttons felt great too, first time I've seen them. UI was really snappy and seemed awesome compared to SGS.
Anyway, a few weeks of researching after that day I found myself with a Desire HD and I must say I definitely picked the right one. Love the phone.
Battery life is good but it really depends on what your doing. If the screen is going to be on all the time you will get about 6-8 (roughly) hours of gameplay/internet/video etc. But if not used hard it will last 2 days easily, this has been my findings anyway.
Storage is ok but you will want to get a bigger SD card as the bundled 8GB SD card is hardly enough, but for apps 1.5GB internal is more then fine.
It comes down to what you really want/need out of the phone. The Desire HD is a great pick.

I'm an HTC fan so I will go for the Desire HD plus when I checked it out and compared with Samsung Galaxy S, I liked the Desire more.

if gaming is a big deal for you...
samsung is a bit better with the graphics.. (though the bigger screen of the DHD is nice)
if not.. DHD all the way!

thanks for your comments B) my first choice was the Desire but heard the usable internal memory was just a few hundred Mb's. 1.5Gb should be enough for apps or updates and such

hmm, i noticed that the Desire HD's battery is mounted sideways; that battery cover seems flimsy. Does it come loose easily?

badkuk said:
hmm, i noticed that the Desire HD's battery is mounted sideways; that battery cover seems flimsy. Does it come loose easily?
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No, its perfectly fine. Before I bought it I saw heaps of people complaining how it doesn't go on properly but it must be their fault. I put it on properly and its sturdy and wont come off for sure.

Neither. Touchwiz, Sense etc is bloatware.
Have you considered the Nexus S?

yah, thought about the nexus s since i was planning to figure out what all this Android development stuff...i eventually passed on it coz
-- no expansion slot; the SGS seems to have more value
-- i don't think it's available here(Philippines)
To be honest, i'm leaning more towards the SGS now; a hard case should deal with the flimsy back cover issue. Too bad, i wanted to go HTC since development is quite active; but with 10 million SGS units sold, i think there should be enough developers out there to pump out custom ROMs B)
Still, thanks to all that replied. Much appreciated B)

Galaxy s vs Htc Desire HD please help
I's my first post so Hello to everybody !
I'm just buying new phone - please advise me if is it worth to pay £240 more (£25/ month vs £35 over 24 months) for HTC Desire HD over Samsung Galaxy S???
Samsung S
-£240 cheaper over 2 years
-better screen
-8GB memory
HTC Desire HD
-better performance
-aluminium body
-I'm going to root the phone immediately after the buy,
-I'm not using phone for games but I'm expecting decent overall performance.
-At the moment I'm using rooted HTC HERO wit 2.3 android
Thanks
Marcin

Well I have bought a few months ago a samsung galaxy s, then I passed thru desire, nexus one and the next one will be desire HD. I'm going to compare the 3 I've had already.
Galaxy S:
-Great phone, super fast and a good performance, great screen also.
-I personally dislike the touch wiz. I like to use sms popup which the touchwiz blocked with the puzzle unlock.
-Disavantages: No photo flash and back cover.
Desire (normal AMOLED one):
-Good phone also, the sense it's pretty good. Screen it's not as good as the galaxy s one. Performance ok also. It recieves regular updates like the other.
-Main disavantage? Not many, but I didn't get used to the scroll, maybe because I used it less time than the others but it's something.
Nexus OnE:
Well, in this particular model, I have tto day I've had 3 pieces, all of them different.
The first was an american AMOLED unlocked nexus, good phone, always with the latest updates. Screen not as good as the SGS one.
The second and third are vodafone models. One with the AMOLED screen and the other with the SLCD. The first one has a little bit more contrast but I guess I like the SLCD colors. They are stronger and brighter.
When compared to the desire, the sense is missed over here but it's better that touchwiz. I personally like the scroll ball but this is owners choice.
Must say the SGS is the only that actually CONTROLS decently the contrast. When you get off your house he administrates it very well. The HTC's fail sometimes when it comes to this particular thing.
The american nexus broke up the power button and I have no warranty paper, let's hope the guys at HTC fix him. It's a well known problem. Don't know if desire has that problem has they are the same model but when you buy a nexus you have to get some program to change the unlock key.

htc is better than ss galaxys(king of color)

I vote for the Desire HD, smooth panel.

[Q] desire s or nexus s??

hey guys, im looking into a new phone, and the desire s and nexus s are my top 2 choices. what are you opinions?
1. ill use phone for my regular music player
2. i like sense ui more than stock
is the "death grip" issue on desire s still on-going? i do connect to wifi A LOT.
i dont really mind the earlier updates on the nexus s, and i am also not looking to root or mod either of the phones.
unfortunately, desire s hasn't hit canada. do you think its worth the wait or should i go for nexus?

if you like sense ui more than stock & dont mind the faster updates on the nexus S
then i would suggest getting the desire S
ALL phones lose wifi signal strength when you put your hand on it
the desire S cuts the signal faster which can be fixed by using a custom ROM
regarding the music quality, it is acceptable without headphones & is very good with headphones (SRS is not supported when not using headphones)
you might also want to consider the display of the two devices (nexus S has super amoled and is also larger)
the desire S has has more RAM & faster 3G capabilities

I went through the same conundrum as you when it came to deciding but the following things made me choose the Desire S over the Nexus S.
1. Stock UI looks great but HTC Sense is just great with the cool weather app and little improvements.
2. Desire S has Gorilla Glass
3. Desire S has aluminium body
4. DS has more RAM
5. Smooth browsing. Nexus S lags a lot and is very choppy and slow.
These factors made me think there could be no justification for paying almost identical money to turn down the Desire S for a AMOLED version of the Nexus S.

youagain said:
I went through the same conundrum as you when it came to deciding but the following things made me choose the Desire S over the Nexus S.
1. Stock UI looks great but HTC Sense is just great with the cool weather app and little improvements.
2. Desire S has Gorilla Glass
3. Desire S has aluminium body
4. DS has more RAM
5. Smooth browsing. Nexus S lags a lot and is very choppy and slow.
These factors made me think there could be no justification for paying almost identical money to turn down the Desire S for a AMOLED version of the Nexus S.
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This.
Also Nexus S was more expensive for me to get compared to Desire S (not paying £100+ for an inferior phone, sorry vodafone).
Desire S also has heft. I haven't really had trouble with the wifi-grip unless I'm playing O2Jam Analog or something like that which requires landscape mode.

disire s only use XTC CLIP to S-OFF?
thank u.

devilloki said:
disire s only use XTC CLIP to S-OFF?
thank u.
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Use the search button there are like a thousand posts on this forum about s-off .....
But the answer is currently xtc clip is the only way but there will be a software method soon

I love my desire s. I had the nexus s and had to return it quickly as it was soo cheap and tacky with all that plastic (it felt like a fisher price toy phone)
The desire s is good. Its got a nice battery, 1500mAH battery is doing me well for 2-3 days of light use and standby when I go camping which is all I need. 2.3.3 is much more efficient than my desire HD 2.2.
Desire S all the way, I love mine. Still havent noticed the WIFi Grip issue, but im not gonna look for it as I havent found it from normal use.

thanks for all the replies! haha
im leaning towards the desire s because:
i prefer the 3.7" screen
sense ui
great build
i really do love the nexus s but not its plastic...
i wish the desire s could hit canada soon so i can get it (not willing to pay full price) if not, ill have to go for the nexus.

HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S

HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S
Which phone should I buy ? and why ?
Or any other recommendations(SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD).
Help me out. I'm new here
Thanks

awesomexda said:
HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S
Which phone should I buy ? and why ?
Or any other recommendations(SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD).
Help me out. I'm new here
Thanks
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Already been a few threads on this exact topic mate, here's one of them for you to check out. I enjoyed the Incredible S a lot more.

But they have not given a perfect explanation which one is good. It does not matter which one HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S Or something similar.
I just want reasons which one to buy
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awesomexda said:
But they have not given a perfect explanation which one is good. It does not matter which one HTC Sensation OR HTC Incredible S Or something similar.
I just want reasons which one to buy
Thanks
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Damn, I thought my post in there was pretty good
I'd choose the Incredible S over the Sensation, personally. The everyday performance of the Incredible trumps the Sensation. I was very impressed with the Incredible. One of my most regretful sales, actually
Different strokes for different folks, of course. There are many who feel exactly the opposite. My best advice is to get some 'hands-on' time with the devices before you buy if possible. Only you can tell which one will be best for you

But Sensation has sense 3.0 and dual core processor. And It's newer. I dont understand How do you prefer Incredible S over Sensation :O
What about SE Xperia Arc OR HTC Desire HD ?

awesomexda said:
But Sensation has sense 3.0 and dual core processor. And It's newer. I dont understand How do you prefer Incredible S over Sensation :O
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I understand that. I'll try and explain my perspective for you
I buy a lot of phones. Average one new phone a fortnight. I change them more frequently than socks.
For me, the most important feature of a phone is how it feels and operates on a day-to-day basis. I don't care about 'cores'. I don't care about Quadrant, Linpack, or any of that nonsense. I care about responsiveness, about the user experience. I don't care if it's got twelve cores at 5GHz, if it stutters and lags opening the Launcher, it's a no-go for me.
Case in point: Sensation. On paper, it's a beautiful phone. Out of the box, it was disappointingly laggy and stuttered a lot. I had to S-OFF and install custom software just to make it usable. Out of the box, the Incredible S smoked it, despite not looking as flash on paper. It was a far better optimised package all-round, it ran well, had a beautiful screen and showed very minimal lag. The Sensation didn't, although the screen is fantastic. This is largely due to Sense, but it still marred an otherwise stellar product for me.
I loved the performance of the Galaxy S2. It is an amazing piece of hardware. What lets it down for me is the cheap, glossy plastic body. It's just horrible.
As I said before though, different strokes for different folks. Everyone wants something different. If you want something bragworthy and new, that looks great on paper, you're forced to keep up with the cutting edge. All I ask for out of any device is flawless day-to-day usage.
Just so you know, I'm using a Sharp phone currently that only has a single core. It still smokes the Sensation, even after all the customisation I did to the Sensation to get it right.
There are lots of people who will disagree with my view. My take-home point, is that you will get a ton of opinions on here, but if you stick with what looks good on paper, rather than what feels good in use, you are sometimes very disappointed

Thanks for the advice. I would like to hear from other people too
By the way do you have any idea about Desire HD OR SE Experia Arc ? I think you are the guy to take an advice from since you use a lot phone as you mentioned above.
Thanks

awesomexda said:
Thanks for the advice. I would like to hear from other people too
By the way do you have any idea about Desire HD OR SE Experia Arc ? I think you are the guy to take an advice from since you use a lot phone as you mentioned above.
Thanks
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Wise words. Everyone likes something different, and getting a lot of opinions will help you balance the pros and cons properly. Just remember, I and anyone else who give you advice aren't going to be using it; you are
The Arc was a lovely phone, but the design put me off a lot. I'm really not into fashion phones, and found it quite feminine. It's very thin, curvy and light. The screen is amazing, and the stock firmware mine had (Rogers) was quite zippy. It was very responsive, I just couldn't live with the design.
As for the Desire HD, it was a favourite for quite a while. Big screen, nice and snappy (I had the Telus version - not the AT&T 'Inspire') - although not as snappy as the Incredible S. I wasn't a fan of the battery flap (broke it twice trying to get it off - very difficult) and the battery life was pretty average.
If I had to pick one for daily use it'd be the Arc, if you can live with the design. If you can't, the Desire HD is still a winner. I think if I'd had the silver Arc I may have liked it more. I have another one on the way, plus a silver housing I'm going to put on it.

I'm sorry if I keep disturbing you with the same topic. Im really confused since Its a lot of money to spend to
Whats the real deal between HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S ? Which one is better and Why ? Your word I'm gonna buy it
Thanks

awesomexda said:
I'm sorry if I keep disturbing you with the same topic. Im really confused since Its a lot of money to spend to
Whats the real deal between HTC Desire HD and HTC Incredible S ? Which one is better and Why ? Your word I'm gonna buy it
Thanks
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Not at all mate, that's why I'm here
In internal hardware, they are all but identical. The Desire HD uses a 4.3-inch LCD screen, the Incredible S uses a 4-inch S-LCD screen. Colour reproduction is better on the Incredible S, as is pixel density (same resolution, smaller screen).
The Incredible S uses a slightly updated camera over the DHD, it had reasonable picture quality (for an HTC device - cameras aren't a strong point for HTC). The Incredible S' soft keys on the front are actually LEDs, they rotate if you use the phone in landscape mode. The back is coated in soft-touch rubber paint, which feels great.
The Desire HD has a good screen - if you like them big. It has a solid build and comfortable weight, but is let down by the battery cover and the average battery life.
In daily use there is little difference, however there is more aftermarket (read: XDA) support for the Desire HD than the Incredible S. What's on offer for both devices, though, is awesome.
They both shoot 720p video. They both have wireless N and Bluetooth. They both have about 1.5GB internal space. They both use a 1GHz Scorpion with 768MB RAM.
I preferred the Incredible because I like a sharp, crisp picture. That's just me.
In short, go with the design you like more

Sensation is better with all aspects.
But it has signal issues. BT, Wi-Fi, and GSM antennas connected to back cover. If you'll cover device's back, you'll Wi-Fi and BT signal. Also it has weak GSM signal.
You can find videos about issues on youtube.
Mounth ago I bought HTC Sensation. It's very good, fast, and sexy looking device...but with signal problems!
I've tested 3 different Sensation, they all have same issues. I think it's built-mistake...

Now I have chosen Incredible S Over sensation and Desire HD. But the problem is Arc is a good phone as you said. I went through some review. Arc is a quite a good phone but 384 MB memory is not going to do the job as i guess. In other words I won't be able to install many apps as I want. What do you think ?
By the way I'm still dying inside mate, because I would luv to buy a Sensation. But it has tons of problems such as battary life , laggy etc as I read. I dont wanna waste my money on a buggy phone ;-)
Thanks

Thanks for the reply orkhanahmadov. Do you experience any touch issue ? Lagging ? Low Battery life ? Any issues at all
Thanks

awesomexda said:
Now I have chosen Incredible S Over sensation and Desire HD. But the problem is Arc is a good phone as you said. I went through some review. Arc is a quite a good phone but 384 MB memory is not going to do the job as i guess. In other words I won't be able to install many apps as I want. What do you think ?
By the way I'm still dying inside mate, because I would luv to buy a Sensation. But it has tons of problems such as battary life , laggy etc as I read. I dont wanna waste my money on a buggy phone ;-)
Thanks
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No no, the 384MB is RAM, not ROM. RAM is used by the system. Simple explanation; more RAM = more things open at once without slowing down.
In terms of overall zip, the Arc and Incredible were very close. It is a good phone.
If you're dying inside, however, I recommend a quick visit to the Hospital, followed by a trip to a phone shop to get yourself a Sensation. You're always going to wonder, otherwise

awesomexda said:
Thanks for the reply orkhanahmadov. Do you experience any touch issue ? Lagging ? Low Battery life ? Any issues at all
Thanks
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Some of Sensation users reports that they also have touchscreen lag issues. To be honest used it about 15 days but never had touchscreen problems.
I could live with weak BT and Wi-Fi signal, but I can't even make normal calls.
BTW, you can see this issues here, here and here.

You are funny man Noh way GSMArena says 320 MB storage, 512 MB RAM.
Im currently using a Wildfire. Its too slow. Thats why I would like to move on. On wildfire
384 MB RAM; 512 MB ROM. Not enough for me. I guess same applies to Arc too. As i know internal memory is important to have more apps
By the way You say that ARC and Incredible is very close. Which means still Incredible is better right ? What are the pros and cons Choosing ARC over Incredible and vice-versa ?
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Some of Sensation users reports that they also have touchscreen lag issues. To be honest used it about 15 days but never had touchscreen problems.
I could live with weak BT and Wi-Fi signal, but I can't even make normal calls.
BTW, you can see this issues here, here and here.
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In other words Its not useable right ? That means I should go for Incredible over sensation ?
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You are funny man Noh way GSMArena says 320 MB storage, 512 MB RAM.
Im currently using a Wildfire. Its too slow. Thats why I would like to move on. On wildfire
384 MB RAM; 512 MB ROM. Not enough for me. I guess same applies to Arc too. As i know internal memory is important to have more apps
By the way You say that ARC and Incredible is very close. Which means still Incredible is better right ? What are the pros and cons Choosing ARC over Incredible and vice-versa ?
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Ah, I misunderstood your post. I didn't think 384MB RAM sounded right. 320MB of storage isn't much, but you can put most of your Apps onto the SD card now so it's not a huge issue, unless you aren't using a memory card. Contrary to what a lot of people think, 512MB of RAM is ample today, unless you're an Atrix running WebTop
As for comparisons between the Inc S and Arc, I only favour the Incredible S out of the two because of design. The Arc was every bit as good a performer as the Incredible. It doesn't have Sense, but Sony's UI isn't too bad at all. The screen is a little bigger and very, very good. Excellent camera, especially videos. Battery life was comparable to the Incredible S.

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In other words Its not useable right ? That means I should go for Incredible over sensation ?
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It has factory defects. Maybe you'll never face GSM, BT signal or touchscreen issues, but you'll see every Sensation have Wi-Fi signal problems.
If you like Incredible S, you can go with it.
But my choice was Samsung Galaxy S2.

i wouldn't recommend the arc.. look how much you find about it on xda, and compare it to the htc devices..
well but if you dont care about tinkering, why not
the sensation was never an option for me, i always wanted to get a GSII.. but now that i used one of a friend i have to say that i just dont like how its build.. its too light >.< but you should try it.. (i'm maybe just too spoiled from the buildquality of my HD2)
now im still with my HD2. i'll wait till they release the new phones around september/oktober/november..
the nexus prime is my hope
i would recommend to wait..

sensation vs desire z

hi guys. i bought sensation last week. before i had xperia x10 mini pro. after much struggle i finally rooted it. i am thinking about selling it to my brother and getting desire z. reasons-physical keyboard I was used to from xperia and 3 color led instead of just 2. do you guys think these features are worth it? do you get used to typing on touch screen? what is your advice to the newbie? i am strggling to type on sensation right now.

I had a G2 and to be honest having a keyboard vs not having one is a HUGE difference. It all comes down to whether you absolutely need a physical keyboard or not. If you do, stick with the Desire Z and if you think you can adapt to a touch screen only then go with the Sensation.

You definitely get used to touch screen. This is my first touchscreen phone and to begin withI was hopeless, I would suggest using a 3rd party keyboard, my personal favourite is SwiftKey x because of its excellent word prediction.
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I had the G2, NEVER used the physical keyboard because swype/GB keyboard was good enough for me. It's really personal preference, same thing I did with the G1, never used the physical keyboard. But if you absolutely need it and can't stand the touch keyboard then get it.

I have no idea wheter I can get used to touch screen. That's why I am asking if someone has experience with getting used to it.

I agree with Vandam500
I had the G1, loved it, the physical keyboard was LOVELY. but sadly it was slow and I got a N1 instead, problem was N1 has multitouch issues and it's really annoying when you're typing fast. Now the sensation, it's alright. I Still miss my G1 though.
But isn't the G2 substantially slower?

You will definitely get used to it.
Bought a Mytouch 3G last year for the keyboard and ended up exchanging it for a Vibrant within a week because I'd already gotten used to the touchscreen.

I had the desire z, the development isn't as good as the sensation, I get better performance and battery life on sensation. Personal prefference, I never used the keyboard even though I brought it because of the keyboard, but by the time you flicked it out I could just type on the screen just as fast. It's good for fpsece though and other emulaters
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I have the Sensation and my girlfriend has Desire Z. She loves using physical keyboard but I prefer touchscreen. I tried to type fast on Desire Z but still I type much much faster on bigger screen keyboard (with two thumbs).

Well here are my 2 bits.
I was using blackberry before sensation, though yes it takes a little getting used to but typing is a breeze soon.
Good luck!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

Only if you really need a physical keyboard.
Desire Z's camera quality is significantly worse than Sensation's (no, I'm not just talking about megapixel count, but image quality. Color reproduction, sharpness, contrast etc). Sensation also has faster and dual-core processor, and higher screen resolution.

Coming from the Nokia N900 I had a hard time. But only for as little as a few days, until I found out that there are bazillions of alternative keyboard programs for Android Nowadays I'm quite happy with my touchscreen-keyboard. Plus I love the bigger screen