Well, ive been having signal/call quality problems and a broken speakerphone so I decided to exchange the phone for a brand new one.
On this new phone the speakerphone still doesn't work (the other person can't make out what im saying at all). Both phones have had this same problem, why does HTC not fix this?
By dialing *#*#4636#*#* I have switched the network to edge only and now get 3 bars instead of 1 in my house. Im hoping this fixes the call quality problem Im having.
Depending on how my call quality is over the next week, I may go back and see if I can pay the difference and get an Atrix.
Tell them you're having signal issues @ home and you'd like one of the microcells. That will alleviate your signal issue while there. The speaker phone, I dunno, mine has worked just fine on both of my Inspires.
Tx Redneck said:
Tell them you're having signal issues @ home and you'd like one of the microcells.
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Ive read different reviews and it seems very hit or miss as to whether or not they will give you one for free or charge $100-$150. Do you have any experience with it?
Called ATT, they sent updates to my phone supposedly, I seem to be maybe getting 1 more bar in H+ but not consistently. He told me to call a store and tell them you're having problem and ask about the microcell. Would be nice to get that for free, but still bummed about my speakerphone.
if you've only got one bar of signal, it could be the reason your call quality could be so low- may not be much an issue with speakerphone at all... does the other side hear you without trouble when using a headset or the phone itself?
and i'd assume you're using the stock rom that at&t ships- maybe you could install the volume+ app and tweak your speakerphone settings?
Which setting cuz for me it just yes back to hspda
djsmvp said:
Well, ive been having signal/call quality problems and a broken speakerphone so I decided to exchange the phone for a brand new one.
On this new phone the speakerphone still doesn't work (the other person can't make out what im saying at all). Both phones have had this same problem, why does HTC not fix this?
By dialing *#*#4636#*#* I have switched the network to edge only and now get 3 bars instead of 1 in my house. Im hoping this fixes the call quality problem Im having.
Depending on how my call quality is over the next week, I may go back and see if I can pay the difference and get an Atrix.
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mightyoj said:
if you've only got one bar of signal, it could be the reason your call quality could be so low- may not be much an issue with speakerphone at all... does the other side hear you without trouble when using a headset or the phone itself?
and i'd assume you're using the stock rom that at&t ships- maybe you could install the volume+ app and tweak your speakerphone settings?
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The speakerphone doesn't work even when I have 3-5 bars. I will be talking to them fine, and then once its on speaker they say "what what, i cant really hear you" and then once i take speaker off they can hear me fine. Both stock phones have been like this? I will check out the volume+ app
churro7 said:
Which setting cuz for me it just yes back to hspda
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Theres a network settings where you can choose hspda, gsm, etc.
speakerphone TERRIBLE
I have also had major problems with the speakerphone on my phone since I bought it. I think I am right around the 30 day return point, but I have been to lazy to return it to stock and take it back. Not sure if it is a hardware problem or if the phone is just like this. I asked my friend who has the same phone, and he said he didn't notice a problem.
It's like the mic input is way too sensitive, so when I put someone on speakerphone whatever they say gets looped back into the mic and echos VERY loudly back to them. Absolutely impossible to have a conversation with speakerphone on which is very annoying because I prefer it most of the time.
I can also notice that the problem exists when I use Soundhound. I can play a song at an extremely low volume and the input meter on Soundhound is always completely maxed out. If the song is at a normal volume, it often won't be able to detect which sound it is because it must be coming in too loudly. So I have to turn the volume way down and try again.
Is this not a normal thing on the HTC Inspire? Has no one noticed this? Or am I having some sort of hardware problem?
Can anyone think of a way to fix it, such as a mic input level adjust?
Thanks.
I exchanged my phone 3 times at ATT because of cell signal and call quality to later find out they are working on the towers in my area - so they say. I had 3-4 bars of service about 2 months ago and now i'm down to 1-2.
In the end, I threatened to switch to verizon and ended up walking out of the store with a free microcell. - I've also been on a ATT Premier Business Acct. for the past 5 years - so that might of helped.
Call quality on the Microcell is superb. Some of my text messages don't want to go out the first time and I have to resend but other then that its pretty good.
weregoingunion said:
I have also had major problems with the speakerphone on my phone since I bought it. I think I am right around the 30 day return point, but I have been to lazy to return it to stock and take it back. Not sure if it is a hardware problem or if the phone is just like this. I asked my friend who has the same phone, and he said he didn't notice a problem.
It's like the mic input is way too sensitive, so when I put someone on speakerphone whatever they say gets looped back into the mic and echos VERY loudly back to them. Absolutely impossible to have a conversation with speakerphone on which is very annoying because I prefer it most of the time.
I can also notice that the problem exists when I use Soundhound. I can play a song at an extremely low volume and the input meter on Soundhound is always completely maxed out. If the song is at a normal volume, it often won't be able to detect which sound it is because it must be coming in too loudly. So I have to turn the volume way down and try again.
Is this not a normal thing on the HTC Inspire? Has no one noticed this? Or am I having some sort of hardware problem?
Can anyone think of a way to fix it, such as a mic input level adjust?
Thanks.
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- Also, depending on your ROM, Radio, RIL combination - you may have the wrong Radio for the ROM you are using. I had a few different ROMS installed and the radio provided clear call quality on my end but on receiving end they stated that there was a echo. I switched radios and flashed the appropriate RIL and the problem went away.
djsmvp said:
The speakerphone doesn't work even when I have 3-5 bars. I will be talking to them fine, and then once its on speaker they say "what what, i cant really hear you" and then once i take speaker off they can hear me fine. Both stock phones have been like this?
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The mic for the speaker phone is on the back.. when you use the speakerphone, you have to talk to the back of your phone.. not the bottom.. if you talk to the bottom mic they wont be able to hear you. This has been talked about on these boards countless times. search
Hi all,
Just wanted to put this out there to see if anyone else had experienced this. Using SGS2 skyrocket - stock 2.3.5 UCKK1 (rooted) and then updated UCLA3 everything (rooted) - When on a phone call after sometimes 1 minute and then other times 5 minutes my microphone stops working and the other person cannot hear me. I can hear them fine, but they cannot hear me.
Wired headphones work without an issue, but the internal mic seems to have an issue with my phone. a work around I read for the non LTE SGS2 works where you hit the speakerphone button and then they can hear you again and if you turn it off it buys you another 5 minutes or so on mic.
So frustrated with this that I am doing an exchange today on the phone.
Just wanted to see if anyone else had experienced and if there was a know n problem with the phone? Google and XDA returned very little.
Thanks!
MB
Hey I too also have this issue, I had a temporary fix which lasts longer than turning on the speaker but it's still temporary, I have the skyrocket on Rogers and I called them in about it, apparently it has something to do with the network, they did some reset and told me to restart my phone and it worked for about a week or so, hope this helps, if anyone has a fix to this please reply
I read another case like this awhile back, try searching it up. i believe it was rma'd though
I have a very similar problem, I go "in and out" a lot. The problem is the noise canceling mic on the top of the phone by the headset input, I left myself voice mail on my home phone and while talking moved my finger gently over the tiny microphone hole and that causes me to go in and out.
For most turning of Noise Suppression in settings will work, for me it does nothing as if it is perma on lol except on ICS where it actually turns off (dont ask me I have no idea why)
So while I was impaired, I managed to drop my skyrocket in a toilet about a month ago. Fished it out, dried it off for a couple days, thought it was fine when the radios started working again. First time I actually used if for a call after that the speaker seemed scratchy, so I just started using my work cell for voice calls because I didn't have the time to deal with it.
I finally looked at it again today, and from what I can tell neither the speaker nor the microphone work anymore, and I can't use headphones with it either. Bluetooth does work though, so if I really need to make a call on it, I can go out to my car and call from there... /o\
Edit: I just tested with the youtube and voice recorder apps, and they work fine. So it's something wrong with the phone app? I'm now really confused, since I was leaning toward it being a hardware issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I called AT&T technical support and said I "dropped" it. They said that dropping voids the warranty anyway, and suggested a factory reset. Still no dice, so now I'm looking to the internet. Any suggestions?
its no doubt because you dropped it into water. If it powers on fine try taking it apart and giving it a good cleaning. Maybe corrosion somewhere. IDK, but thats what I would do
If this just happened I would have suggested using the rice trick, but seeing as how it was so long ago, im not really sure.
Hi,
I've had two Moto G's. both have been returned/replaced due to the ear piece/speaker buzzing like a kazoo when someone speaks/audio is heard through it.
I can now only assume it's dust that's caused this to happen, as I use my phone in a reasonably dusty environment occasionally through work.
Has anyone noticed similar problems? Anyone know ways to prevent/cure this should it happen again?
I came here to post this same thing. Mine was fine until shortly after the latest ota. I plan on calling Motorola soon, just haven't gotten around to it.
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Aerogriff said:
I came here to post this same thing. Mine was fine until shortly after the latest ota. I plan on calling Motorola soon, just haven't gotten around to it.
Sent from my XT1034 using Tapatalk
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It could have changed after an update for me too. The only physical change could be the dust, but this seems unlikely because it excluded to a fairly modest amount very briefly!
iamtherealmungo said:
Hi,
I've had two Moto G's. both have been returned/replaced due to the ear piece/speaker buzzing like a kazoo when someone speaks/audio is heard through it.
I can now only assume it's dust that's caused this to happen, as I use my phone in a reasonably dusty environment occasionally through work.
Has anyone noticed similar problems? Anyone know ways to prevent/cure this should it happen again?
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Have the same problem! I got a new moto g because the 1st one was doing this cracking sound during calls both on 4.3 and 4.4!
The one has the same problem AGAIN!! i am very angry with this because i feel like the phone is fake and very cheap with this extreme bad sound i will try contact motorola
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I'm also having this problem. In fact, I'm on hold right now with motorola as I call to swap my second phone for the same reason. I started having the problem on my first phone a few weeks ago. The second phone had the buzzing problem as soon as it arrived. In both cases the phones have buzzed intermittently and tapping them face down hard against my palm seems to stop the noise for a bit. That isn't a good option because you have to tell the person on the other end to hold the phone away from their ear while you do it. It suggests to me that there is something like sand in the speaker.
We have three phones. One other has had almost no use, while the third has had a huge amount of use as phone and audio player using the headphone. Yesterday the speaker on that last one stopped working altogether. It only works with headphones. I assume it doesn't recognize the headphones have been removed. I don't believe it had the buzzing problem.
I love the phones otherwise.
I have sucessfully solved the problem in two moto g's
Hello to everyone.
First of all, I'd like to thank to everybody that have been developing the threads that as made this possible.
I have read many pages trying to understand the problem.
But I'm going to explain the whole process. I HAVE DONE THIS WITH SINGLE CHIP MOTO G 16GB AND MOTO G 8GB BOTH GSM!!!!
You can find the problem starting the call in a quiet place and you'll see that the sound is good, then in the same call you put some music playing around you and you'll start to have the issue. Try it and you'll find that is what happens.
I've seen mostly on Ebay, that this earpieces are selling like cakes, but definetly you don't have a broken earpiece, and you can test it activating SETTINGS-» DEVELOPER OPTIONS-» USB DEBUGGING, then you go to the dialer an dial this code *#*#2486#*#* or you may see in app drawer an app called CQAtest, it's the same thing, but this is only possible with USB DEBUGGING ENABLED.
Now that you have entered in the test menu you see two bars, select the first one, then select AUDIO, after that you see EARPIECE, click on it and make the BUZZ TEST, when it starts you should put your phone next to your ear. You'll be listening an harmonic sound that starts on a lower frequency and goes to an higher frequency, and it wil be repeating itself.
In this step you can for sure know if you earpiece has problems, if you don't listen any distortion in the loop that it's played, THEN YOU HAVE A FULL OPERATING EARPIECE. Otherwise, it's faulty and you should replace it ( I REALLY DOUBT THAT YOU HAVE A FAULTY EARPIECE).
OK. Now that we have tested the earpiece and we found that has nothing wrong with it, we have to take another steps.
THIS INVOLVE FLASHING THE WHOLE FIRMWARE TO JB 4.3 BUT IT WILL WORK REALLY BEATIFULL
I've taken the Android 4.3-Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE that is the one that really solve the problem, from sbf.droid-developers.org.
Both Moto G's were UK retail one with 4.3 first version (never updated, that so it couldn't install apk's unless they were downloaded from Playstore or GDrive) and the other one with 4.4.2, this can tell us that it is not a problem caused from updating firmware.
I really think even Motorola isn't aware of this problem caused by a little piece of software on the phone.
BEFORE YOU FLASH THIS FIRMWARE, YOU CAN TRY IF IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM GOING RIGHT TO THE SPOT.
Go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS.
Now you'll see a switch that can be turned to OFF, you can try this at first, go back all the way until the app drawer, search your dialer and make a call, could be to your voicemail or another service from your operator that you're sure you aren't paying. Iniciating the call in a quiet environment you can listen well but if you put some music to play from a radio or something that it is near from you, that will increase the surrounding sound and makes the problem reapears, if the switching OFF AUDIO EFFECTS doesn't solved the problem. Try this several times to make sure that the problem it is still there.
If the problem persists go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS and you'll see WIRED STEREO and SPEAKER. In the Speaker badge set Equalizer to OFF and repeat the process of the call in quiet and during the call add surround sound with a level that can match the volume of the call. Then again, if the problem resides in there it will reveal himself right in that point. Try this several times to make sure that the problem it is still there.
If the problem it is there after this whole process and tests, then to get rid of it FOR SURE, reflash or downgrade to the firmware I've mentioned before. After reflash, Go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS, select the SPEAKER badge and turn the equalizer to OFF.
Make the tests I've mentioned before in call quiet, and with surrounding music and you'll be pleased that THE PROBLEM HAS GONE FOREVER.
Hope I've helped.
Cheers
I'm on my 2nd Moto G due to the buzzing earpiece problem. My Moto G is running stock non-rooted 4.4.3.
I used the sequence you mentioned to run the BUZZ TEST and I didn't hear any distortion at all! Amazing!
I'm having some trouble following your instructions though. I did turn off Audio Effects completely. However, the problem still persists. Can you explain why this would produce a buzzy sound in the earpiece?
Possible Solution
Hi everyone!
I found a peculiar solution. Maybe don't work for everyone, but worked with my Moto G and it's very easy to perform.
First, some comments about my case:
I've followed every step described by @jomedeiros ...I performed the CQAtest and the buzzing noise is clearly heard in the BUZZ TEST, especially in the low frequency sound at the begin of the harmonic sound. I should clarify that the buzzing sound was almost unbearable, like a broken speaker.
My Moto G is running stock non-rooted 4.4.4 (latest ota).
I set all the audio effects OFF, equalizer to OFF, etc... etc... But the buzz was still there.
My solution?
Vacuum cleaner!!!
Yes, too easy right? But works!!
I removed the back cover of the Moto G and with the crevice tool accessory, aspirate all the sides of the phone, then for several seconds on the rubber piece where the cancelation mic was, and specially all over the earpiece metal grid, then tapping the phone face down hard against my palm and aspire the earpiece again, from one side to another (gently taking care not to scratch the glass with the vacuum accessory).
In the first round with the vacuum, the buzzing sound drops significantly, and with one second attempt, the earpiece returned to the original sound, clear and undistorted.
Well... In my case should be only dust, but worth the test because here in Argentina the technical service it can take up to 90 days :/
Perhaps it's worth noting I'm designer and don't spent too much time in dusty spaces. Maybe the little dust in the pockets is enough!. Who knows!
jomedeiros said:
Hello to everyone.
First of all, I'd like to thank to everybody that have been developing the threads that as made this possible.
I have read many pages trying to understand the problem.
But I'm going to explain the whole process. I HAVE DONE THIS WITH SINGLE CHIP MOTO G 16GB AND MOTO G 8GB BOTH GSM!!!!
You can find the problem starting the call in a quiet place and you'll see that the sound is good, then in the same call you put some music playing around you and you'll start to have the issue. Try it and you'll find that is what happens.
I've seen mostly on Ebay, that this earpieces are selling like cakes, but definetly you don't have a broken earpiece, and you can test it activating SETTINGS-» DEVELOPER OPTIONS-» USB DEBUGGING, then you go to the dialer an dial this code *#*#2486#*#* or you may see in app drawer an app called CQAtest, it's the same thing, but this is only possible with USB DEBUGGING ENABLED.
Now that you have entered in the test menu you see two bars, select the first one, then select AUDIO, after that you see EARPIECE, click on it and make the BUZZ TEST, when it starts you should put your phone next to your ear. You'll be listening an harmonic sound that starts on a lower frequency and goes to an higher frequency, and it wil be repeating itself.
In this step you can for sure know if you earpiece has problems, if you don't listen any distortion in the loop that it's played, THEN YOU HAVE A FULL OPERATING EARPIECE. Otherwise, it's faulty and you should replace it ( I REALLY DOUBT THAT YOU HAVE A FAULTY EARPIECE).
OK. Now that we have tested the earpiece and we found that has nothing wrong with it, we have to take another steps.
THIS INVOLVE FLASHING THE WHOLE FIRMWARE TO JB 4.3 BUT IT WILL WORK REALLY BEATIFULL
I've taken the Android 4.3-Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE that is the one that really solve the problem, from sbf.droid-developers.org.
Both Moto G's were UK retail one with 4.3 first version (never updated, that so it couldn't install apk's unless they were downloaded from Playstore or GDrive) and the other one with 4.4.2, this can tell us that it is not a problem caused from updating firmware.
I really think even Motorola isn't aware of this problem caused by a little piece of software on the phone.
BEFORE YOU FLASH THIS FIRMWARE, YOU CAN TRY IF IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM GOING RIGHT TO THE SPOT.
Go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS.
Now you'll see a switch that can be turned to OFF, you can try this at first, go back all the way until the app drawer, search your dialer and make a call, could be to your voicemail or another service from your operator that you're sure you aren't paying. Iniciating the call in a quiet environment you can listen well but if you put some music to play from a radio or something that it is near from you, that will increase the surrounding sound and makes the problem reapears, if the switching OFF AUDIO EFFECTS doesn't solved the problem. Try this several times to make sure that the problem it is still there.
If the problem persists go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS and you'll see WIRED STEREO and SPEAKER. In the Speaker badge set Equalizer to OFF and repeat the process of the call in quiet and during the call add surround sound with a level that can match the volume of the call. Then again, if the problem resides in there it will reveal himself right in that point. Try this several times to make sure that the problem it is still there.
If the problem it is there after this whole process and tests, then to get rid of it FOR SURE, reflash or downgrade to the firmware I've mentioned before. After reflash, Go to SETTINGS--» SOUND--» AUDIO EFFECTS, select the SPEAKER badge and turn the equalizer to OFF.
Make the tests I've mentioned before in call quiet, and with surrounding music and you'll be pleased that THE PROBLEM HAS GONE FOREVER.
Hope I've helped.
Cheers
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Can you send me another link for the Android 4.3-Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE ? this site is off sbf.droid-developers.org.
thanks
ruibvb said:
Can you send me another link for the Android 4.3-Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE ? this site is off sbf.droid-developers.org.
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Hello everyone.
In the case of the moto G that had the 4.4.2 version, I've downgraded to this one, 4.3.
What is the cause of this problem?
I really don't know, but before reflashing with the mentioned firmware, I have tried all kind of things, also the vaccum cleaner (BUT BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU USE THE VACCUM CLEANER, IT CAN DAMAGE FOREVER THE EARPIECE) including reflashing with the original firmware (UK) among others and the only solution untill today remais the same. Reflash with the firmware 4.3 bold mentioned in the first post that I' ve wrote.
I can tell that both phones still working very nice until today, and the problem of the earpice has never happened. But both are in the version 4.3. and so far I can tell, everyone that has upgraded their phones have tons of problems with them, so mi wife and my mother prefer to stay with the 4.3 version (so do I because I don't like of what they have done to Android from the 4.3 to the day of today, I have a Note 2 and I'm still with the 4.1.2, because they've messed the Android system in the upper versions and I refuse to upgrade. So this are preferences of each user).
XDA doesn't let me post the direct link here to download the firmware.
So maybe throug pm?
Hope I've helped. Cheers
Another solution
ANOTHER SOLUTION TO SOLVE THE BUZZING BUZZ EARPIECE MOTO G
I have the same issue that many of us had, the buzzing earpiece.
SOLUTION:
- I bought 2 earpiece from ebay 3€ both.
- Then I dissasembly the phone, like is this youtube tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycER7MH61l8
Its simple you only have to care about the conector, but slowly Ive done it.
- To desatach the battery I use a cut credit card to lift it up and to unglued the black conector from the screen. (i didnt use the hairdrier)
- Then I put the 2 earpiece BUT still making the buzzing noise!!!!
. Then I move the metal spring conector on the earpiece to make it stronger and turn it the other way to use the other 2 conectors that are in the motherboard.
- And voilá, the noise is gone!
The original earpeice probably was working, but I broke it when taking out.
(I know theres some mistakes, but you undestand)
jomedeiros can't put links so here the link for the rom
https://meocloud.pt/link/ba12605f-3e...ail_DE.tar.gz/
thanks to him
Is upgrading moto g to marshmello will solve the buzzing sound problem
Does upgrading to marshmello helps
Earspeaker always bRRRzzing
I post in this old thread because is the only I found googling which try to give some (and different) solutions to the earspeaker making "GRRRR".
My XT1032 has the problem. My first attempt was to wipe, than to reset, then to change TWO earspecker (one from England as OEM and one sold as compatible from Italy), then to try the simcard into another phone (and it works very well inside an Y300, I can't believe that into MotoG 2013 VS Y300 match the first loses ) then to unlock and install a Cyanogen, then rotating the speaker during assembly (in the printed circuit there are 4 fields to give connection and only a pair is used at time), then moving the 2 spring connectors to try to give better stronger connections. From one try to the other the problem persists also using the service menu. So at the last point I revert and changed again the speaker with the original piece. Vivavoice is good and the ear phones too, no distortion.
My conclusions? The original speaker is bad (and I can see that the transparent sheet of nylon is not well plain), the second was worse but very similar in results, the last was really bad and if with the original I obtain a distortion in a window in the low harmonic with the compatible I obtain a distortion in all the low harmonic, from start to the middle.
So, now, the question to anybody who has similar problems: maybe the two earspeakers I bought were not good, or maybe the circuit (I think the ampli) is broken?
Changing the phone because it works very well but not well as a phone is a bit..... frustrating, the battery (original) is good for my needs and the screen too, but trying to change other 1, 2, ... 10 earspeakers without a reply is a dead end....
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moxmose said:
I post in this old thread because is the only I found googling which try to give some (and different) solutions to the earspeaker making "GRRRR".
My XT1032 has the problem. My first attempt was to wipe, than to reset, then to change TWO earspecker (one from England as OEM and one sold as compatible from Italy), then to try the simcard into another phone (and it works very well inside an Y300, I can't believe that into MotoG 2013 VS Y300 match the first loses ) then to unlock and install a Cyanogen, then rotating the speaker during assembly (in the printed circuit there are 4 fields to give connection and only a pair is used at time), then moving the 2 spring connectors to try to give better stronger connections. From one try to the other the problem persists also using the service menu. So at the last point I revert and changed again the speaker with the original piece. Vivavoice is good and the ear phones too, no distortion.
My conclusions? The original speaker is bad (and I can see that the transparent sheet of nylon is not well plain), the second was worse but very similar in results, the last was really bad and if with the original I obtain a distortion in a window in the low harmonic with the compatible I obtain a distortion in all the low harmonic, from start to the middle.
So, now, the question to anybody who has similar problems: maybe the two earspeakers I bought were not good, or maybe the circuit (I think the ampli) is broken?
Changing the phone because it works very well but not well as a phone is a bit..... frustrating, the battery (original) is good for my needs and the screen too, but trying to change other 1, 2, ... 10 earspeakers without a reply is a dead end....
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Ok, problem solved: this time the eraspecker from eBay was good! It come, again, from england. The first two were simple broken new guarenteed not working special price original best than sh**t Pentium inside tax free etc etc. Maybe some rule should prevent to sell broken new spares damn!