Hello all as the title suggests I am wondering if flashing a european RUU to my T-Mobile Sensation 4G (USA), will disable the 4G access?. I came to this question because the European Sensation or the Sensation Z710e, doesn't have 4G capabilities. Thanks in advance for any answer
You mean, the non-TMOUS Sensations don't have the 4G branding. The capabilities are the same.
lianw said:
You mean, the non-TMOUS Sensations don't have the 4G branding. The capabilities are the same.
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So my TMOUS Sensation 4G will still have 4G Capabilities when I switch to a Europe RUU, correct?. Just trying to clarify thank you btw
Hspa+ is tmos "4G" but it is not 4G in the true sense. It's more like 3.5G. t mobile 4G is purely a marketing term and means nothing as far as speed of the phone. It is the same as the european version in every way.
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Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
EddyOS said:
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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No Carrier Logos out of the box? Factory unlocked? No custom firmware?
100% stock - so long as you get x.xx.401.x (European) FW on it
i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
Z710e here... No problems, unbranded, S-ON.
Okay..that settles it then. I think I'm going for this Z710e.
redlinux said:
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
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Links please? Are you talking about european version and us (4g) version?
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i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
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Yes but it's from a different region. Depends where the OP is from really
If you are talking about the price difference you see in the US, that's because
- for the US version, most people selling it bought it from tmobile at a discount price with contract. In order to sell it, they have to lower the price to slightly cheaper than the full price, which is 550
- for the international version, it is not available in the US officially. People imported it from Europe or Asia, at full price. To cover cost, they sell it at above the full price of the device.
Hence the price difference. There isn't any difference between the specs of the two. The Us version has tmobile logo on it and tmobile branded software. But once people can get s-off, that would eliminate any software difference between the two. The US one is branded as a 4G device, and the international one isn't. But that's only because only carriers in the US brand HSPA+ as 4G....
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
boofhead said:
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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http://www.htc.com/au/product/sensation/specification.html
According to HTC Aus website, its 3G speed is capable of 14.4 Mbps so it is a "4G" device by AT&T/T-Mobile standard...
Looking at the bands that this phone supports, it seems to have the same hardware as the Canadian Bell model. Bell also brands its as a 4G device, btw.
So, did I understand correctly that ALL Sensation versions are absolutely identical from the point of view of hardware and they all support HSDPA+, just some operators call it 4G and brand the device correspondingly while others do not?
The 4G supports different frequency bands to the normal GSM model
Network*
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
*Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.
EddyOS, thanks for your reply but now I'm even more confused
You say that:
HTC Sensation 4G is for 900/AWS/2100;
HTC Sensation Z710e is for 850/900/1800/1900, right?
Does this mean that HTC Sensation Z710e doesn't support UMTS (and, hence, HSDPA/HSDPA+) at all???
My operator works in 900/1800/2100(UMTS with HSDPA) bands. Does this mean I should choose Sensation 4G to be able to use high-speed Internet?
I have a Z710e and can connect at HSDPA
Then, the difference is that 4G just doesn't support 850/1900?
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
william31518 said:
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
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It does not! it is exactly the same!
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3922
Sensation z710a and z710e
Hi Friend this is my first answer, the difference is simple but at the same time complex.
HTC Sensation like other phones has variants like this.
z710a:
GSM Quadband 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so you can use 2G networks with all carries but...
UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz only and if your carrier doesn't support this bands you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
z710e:
UMTS 900/1700/2100MHz here the same if your carrier doesn't support this frequencies you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
These are the main differences, and it's the same like happend with other brands like Samsung
S5360 work 3G with 900/2100
S5360L works 3G with 850/1900
S5830 work 3G with 900/2100
S5830L works 3G with 850/1900
I don't know why this differences because i thinks that it's cheap and easy to simply make phones that work 3G in pentaband 850/900/1700/1900/2100, but for any reason and i don't know why is like that for now.
I hope helps you and other people too.
Hello Guys! I'm looking for an information, I'd like to buy an Android phone from Orlando for use it in Italy, i saw the Sensaion 4g from T-Mobile but i have a question: Does the Sensation 4g works in Italy? I think that yes but i'm no sure, and another question, Does the normal Sensation's rom works in 4g version from T-Mobile?
Thanks!
Yes you can. The 4G has ALL the European bands plus an extra band (1700 MHz) for T-Mobile USA.
You will have a lot of useless programs onboard (That you can't use because they are tied to a T-mobile subscription or network) but nothing that can't be solved with a good flashing
I m also using an sensation 4g in India without any problem,
Capychimp is also using US Sensation 4G in Sweden no problems 3G work
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Hi, if I flashed a radio meant for 900/1700/2100 frequency on a Sensation from Bell Canada (using 850/1900), will it work with T-Mobile/Wind/Mobicility (on AWS)?
can you provide more info? which radio are you trying to flash? what rom and radio are you using? etc
from my understanding, there is no right or wrong radio for each sensation. they are universal. some may work better than others depending on your carrier and region.
From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
Bump I want to know too
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isgaard said:
From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
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no, each phone variant has built in frequencies which cannot be changed via flashing a radio. radios dont have anything to do with frequencies. they just help with signal strength. the frequencies (850/1900 etc) tell you whether you get 3/4g service, which depends on your carrier
I just thought that the sensation might be one of those phones where the manufacturer locks out some frequency to suit the carriers supplied. Just wondering if somebody out there tried it out by flashing different radios to see if it's really a hardware limitation.
So what's att at for there 3g vs tmob
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If I get my sensation unlocked, would I be able to get AT&T 3g/4g?
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it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g
walkinhotdog said:
it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g
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Its the Sensation 4g TMO US... I tried my friends sim card and I only got edge with at&t
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Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.
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Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.
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I have realized that, since I tried my friend at&t sim card
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I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.
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I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.
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That's a good idea... How about you try and report back on how it works out... I would but this is my only phone at the time due to me just selling my G2x
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I was told us version is missing hardware but I don't think so don't see HTC changing just for T-Mobile
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I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
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I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
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Yea, I figured that out.... A guy that offered me his Amaze told that it worked with at&t 3g/4g
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milton try this on att i dont have cell service but fix the firmware from that bell post to work radio is updated to bell south hboot will work i have it on mine but no att service or cell service i use wifi cuz i am broke lol
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3r2d0hodyb8j29/PG58IMG.zip
I think you're going to need to explain what you posted
well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon
modem and the like aren't included in ruu files. you'd have to dump those partitions and flash manually
what are the supported umts frequencies for the bell sensation? if someone wants to dump a bell sensation's modem partitions, i'm sure someone would be willing to flash, possibly myself included, although any sign of it "working" would be if i lost tmobile umts (assuming it's not a quad/pentaband umts modem).
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well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon
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I'm using simple mobile now and my sensation works fine, because it runs off of Tmobile's towers... I was asking if the sensation 4g worked on at&t because I was trying to make a trade with someone for a Amaze but they had at&t
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Ok so i have a htc sensation from telstra with the next G network logo on the back, random as question if i bought a 4g sim and put in my phone..would it work? or does it need new hardware?
I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).
gol_n_dal said:
I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).
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Yeah its Z710e and probs telstra as it seems they have the only decent 4g network in Melbourne.
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.
gol_n_dal said:
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.
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Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)
rezkon said:
Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)
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Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.
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Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.
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Oh yeah its got 3G. i know that for sure. Same with my Xoom.