Hello Guys! I'm looking for an information, I'd like to buy an Android phone from Orlando for use it in Italy, i saw the Sensaion 4g from T-Mobile but i have a question: Does the Sensation 4g works in Italy? I think that yes but i'm no sure, and another question, Does the normal Sensation's rom works in 4g version from T-Mobile?
Thanks!
Yes you can. The 4G has ALL the European bands plus an extra band (1700 MHz) for T-Mobile USA.
You will have a lot of useless programs onboard (That you can't use because they are tied to a T-mobile subscription or network) but nothing that can't be solved with a good flashing
I m also using an sensation 4g in India without any problem,
Capychimp is also using US Sensation 4G in Sweden no problems 3G work
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Will the T-mobile 4G Sensation work on the 3G networks in Europe?
Narsilius said:
Will the T-mobile 4G Sensation work on the 3G networks in Europe?
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I asked the same question a couple weeks ago and got a positive confirmation from a poster visiting the UK and using a local SIM. So, the answer appears to be yes. I'm counting on it as well.
Yes. It has the 900/2100 MHz bands.
I will be taking mine to the UK on Tuesday, and using a local SIM, so I will know very shortly. I can let you know.
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Thank you for the answers. I have inserted a Bulgarian sim in it now and it reads it well, but I was not sure about the 3G network.
I have an HTC Thunderbolt and like it, but I want to get another phone to take to Germany and Peru and use it with the prepaid data/voice sims in those countries. (Probably Vodafone in Germany and Claro in Peru). Budget: $300, prefer larger screens and a good onboard camera.
Vodafone uses: GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / UMTS 2100
Claro uses: GSM 1900 / UMTS 850
Would the Atrix 4G be a good idea?
Grab a hd2 for peanuts and stick Android on it, big screen powerful phone and cheap
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whynot66 said:
Grab a hd2 for peanuts and stick Android on it, big screen powerful phone and cheap
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Does that work with the bands needed? Would I see "3G" speeds in Germany/Peru?
Thanks!
I know it works in Germany just give Vodafone a ring
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whynot66 said:
I know it works in Germany just give Vodafone a ring
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Seems like it might work EDGE speeds only in peru, but I don't know that 3g would really be that fast in many places there
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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No Carrier Logos out of the box? Factory unlocked? No custom firmware?
100% stock - so long as you get x.xx.401.x (European) FW on it
i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
Z710e here... No problems, unbranded, S-ON.
Okay..that settles it then. I think I'm going for this Z710e.
redlinux said:
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
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Links please? Are you talking about european version and us (4g) version?
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i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
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Yes but it's from a different region. Depends where the OP is from really
If you are talking about the price difference you see in the US, that's because
- for the US version, most people selling it bought it from tmobile at a discount price with contract. In order to sell it, they have to lower the price to slightly cheaper than the full price, which is 550
- for the international version, it is not available in the US officially. People imported it from Europe or Asia, at full price. To cover cost, they sell it at above the full price of the device.
Hence the price difference. There isn't any difference between the specs of the two. The Us version has tmobile logo on it and tmobile branded software. But once people can get s-off, that would eliminate any software difference between the two. The US one is branded as a 4G device, and the international one isn't. But that's only because only carriers in the US brand HSPA+ as 4G....
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
boofhead said:
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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http://www.htc.com/au/product/sensation/specification.html
According to HTC Aus website, its 3G speed is capable of 14.4 Mbps so it is a "4G" device by AT&T/T-Mobile standard...
Looking at the bands that this phone supports, it seems to have the same hardware as the Canadian Bell model. Bell also brands its as a 4G device, btw.
So, did I understand correctly that ALL Sensation versions are absolutely identical from the point of view of hardware and they all support HSDPA+, just some operators call it 4G and brand the device correspondingly while others do not?
The 4G supports different frequency bands to the normal GSM model
Network*
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
*Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.
EddyOS, thanks for your reply but now I'm even more confused
You say that:
HTC Sensation 4G is for 900/AWS/2100;
HTC Sensation Z710e is for 850/900/1800/1900, right?
Does this mean that HTC Sensation Z710e doesn't support UMTS (and, hence, HSDPA/HSDPA+) at all???
My operator works in 900/1800/2100(UMTS with HSDPA) bands. Does this mean I should choose Sensation 4G to be able to use high-speed Internet?
I have a Z710e and can connect at HSDPA
Then, the difference is that 4G just doesn't support 850/1900?
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
william31518 said:
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
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It does not! it is exactly the same!
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3922
Sensation z710a and z710e
Hi Friend this is my first answer, the difference is simple but at the same time complex.
HTC Sensation like other phones has variants like this.
z710a:
GSM Quadband 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so you can use 2G networks with all carries but...
UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz only and if your carrier doesn't support this bands you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
z710e:
UMTS 900/1700/2100MHz here the same if your carrier doesn't support this frequencies you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
These are the main differences, and it's the same like happend with other brands like Samsung
S5360 work 3G with 900/2100
S5360L works 3G with 850/1900
S5830 work 3G with 900/2100
S5830L works 3G with 850/1900
I don't know why this differences because i thinks that it's cheap and easy to simply make phones that work 3G in pentaband 850/900/1700/1900/2100, but for any reason and i don't know why is like that for now.
I hope helps you and other people too.
anyone here use a euro Sensation in the US? what carrier are you using and do you get 3G?
thank you in advance!
The US and EU are the same so you shouldn't have any issues and it will run at 4G.
And btw, Welcome to USA
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If it uses the same bands as the US version it should work for T-Mobile and Simple Mobile(prepaid mvno that uses t-mobiles tower).
Both gets 4G where its available.
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yup tmobile sells z710e and from your signature i can tell yours is z710e so there you have it!
Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I took my EU Sensation to Florida in Septemeber - bought a tmobile SIM and had it up and running within a few hours. The initial problem that I had was that my phone was registered with tmobile in the UK - so the tmobile apps didn't work in the US with the help of tech support they registered the phone with themselves and I was able to use the tmobile apps including the $1.34 for internet per day which you have to activate daily.
Of course, now that I'm back in the UK - my tmobile apps don't work here but I don't need them here.
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Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I believe that T-Mobile US is the same as Euro based phones, i.e. uses the same bands, 900Mhz, and AWS. Bell Canada and AT&T US use 850MHz which isn't compatible. They're both GSM for Voice, the data frequencies are different though.
Please correct if I've got that wrong. I know I looked up some of this and it all got scary.
There are various posts on the subject.
I found this so you can plug the county in and see what's compatibile.
(850MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
(900MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html
EDIT: Why is life so complicated ? I thought we had it simple now, guess again. At least Pan Europe there is one standard (or so I believe).
Have fun.
thanks for all your input guys! i guess T-Mo is the way to go. my wife said that when she was back in the US (Hawaii and NY), she was not getting 3G on T-Mo while she was there.
could that just be that we don't have a 3G plan?
Hi,
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).
xenios said:
Hi,
I have a euro spec Sensation Z710e.
A friend ordered one from the states and got an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G but a sticker on the T-mobile box said Z710e International edition.
My question is does T-Mobile sell the international version as well (maybe for roaming customers)? If not, does the 4G, support all the 3g euro bands?
Also, what product code does the 4G have? (I saw somewhere that it's G14, but since plain Sensation is Z710e and XE is Z715e, I thought it would be something along those lines).
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I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.
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I believe they all work on Voice/GPRS/EDGE (quad band)
There are two basic versions for 3G 900/AWS/2100 (Europe and T-Mobile (and others) US) and 850/...... (AT&T (and others) US). Europe is nice and simple North America is more disjointed.
3G and 4G are in all sense the same thing, more marketing and more base station investment.
The 3G frequency is the big issue. If he'd ended up with the Z710a (850Mhz) version he'd have been stuffed for 3G in Europe.
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That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.
xenios said:
That's what I thought as well. Thanks. My own Sensation is Z710e but it's an unbranded Europe model.
On comparing both modls on GSMArena, for the 4G I could see Europe bands as well as 1700 (AWS) and it's back cover has a fourth antenna spot.
I was more buffled by the fact that it carries the exact model number as the European one (as opposed to the AT&T one which is Z710a).
I will set it up for packet data see if all is working well.
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Any news on using the 900mhz frequency of the Tmobile branded one??