Can't post the link, but it's on their main page this morning. Full review coming soon.
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Can't post the link, but it's on their main page this morning. Full review coming soon.
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Sure hope they reviewed out of box and with TnT 2.20 as a comparison, or we already know the score
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Sure hope they reviewed out of box and with TnT 2.20 as a comparison, or we already know the score
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Doesn't sound like they're going to. Complains about crappy/slow GUI OOB, and awful viewing angles. Sound familiar?
Crushed the Galaxy Tab in ALL of the benchmarks (sunspider, browsermark, linpack, and quake III) excepting a synthetic graphics test. Also did the same to most of the smartphones, except linpack where one came out ~1 MFLOP ahead, however they apparently realized that it didn't appear that apps/Android we effectively utilizing both cores...
I just wish that they'd've tossed in the Nook Color into the benching...
(Tegra apparently loses synthetic tests as I guess that they're optimized for tile renderers(ARM Mali & PowerVR(they ALWAYS did tiling)) v. standard rendering with the nVidia GPU. (Guess that's why the planet/moon 3D anim looks awful(shadowing) in quadrant... crappy tile rendering...)
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Doesn't sound like they're going to. Complains about crappy/slow GUI OOB, and awful viewing angles. Sound familiar?
Crushed the Galaxy Tab in ALL of the benchmarks (sunspider, browsermark, linpack, and quake III) excepting a synthetic graphics test. Also did the same to most of the smartphones, except linpack where one came out ~1 MFLOP ahead, however they apparently realized that it didn't appear that apps/Android we effectively utilizing both cores...
I just wish that they'd've tossed in the Nook Color into the benching...
(Tegra apparently loses synthetic tests as I guess that they're optimized for tile renderers(ARM Mali & PowerVR(they ALWAYS did tiling)) v. standard rendering with the nVidia GPU. (Guess that's why the planet/moon 3D anim looks awful(shadowing) in quadrant... crappy tile rendering...)
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Strange on the rendering, since not seeing that with mine (Perhaps Nvidia driver isssue out of box).
I did notice errors last night testing the Droid 2 Global (1.2ghz) with Quadrant at a VZW store. Graphic errors with same planet/moon segment. 1500 score average.
So, after playing around with several different roms I have a better idea of my own likes and dislikes, but I came across an interesting phenomenon. When switching from InsertCoin 3.3.1 to Pyramid 3D 8.0.0, I felt that P3D was faster (or at least as fast) as InsertCoin. When I checked the benchmark scores in CF-bench, P3D scored MUCH lower than InsertCoin.
Does anyone know why a rom might seem faster, but actually perform worse on a benchmark?
the overall UI can be fast with lower benchmark scores.
But try heavy 3D apps, like N64oid or Tegra2 games, most of the time the fastest ROM in benchmarks will be faster for 3D rendering.
Also true for apps that need time to render something, like for example Photaf that needs some time to render a panoramic photo, etc
I mean in a ROM, the UI can be well optimized, fast, but 3D can be slow, or vice versi
When I use GPU rendering, 2D is much better, but general performance is 1000 lower! The mostly procesor, but generally everything. Zeus ROM 4.0 without changes, second boot. I get 5500 Without it and 4460 with rendering. Please explain me.
Well first off, benchmarks are not reliable. Does it FEEL slower? 2d rendering is something i would suggest if you have a lower end phone or device with a slow graphics chip. Since we have a high end device i dont think its needed.
Im guessing here, but i'd think that instead of rendering as 3d it would force everything to recalculate as 2d. That would be more processor intensive and taking away some of the work from the graphics processor. Since we have a rather beefy graphics chip i'd suggest letting it do as much work as we can because why not?
Basically, that option is there for compatibility. I wouldn't worry about using it
Hopefully this makes sense.
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When I use GPU rendering, 2D is much better, but general performance is 1000 lower! The mostly procesor, but generally everything. Zeus ROM 4.0 without changes, second boot. I get 5500 Without it and 4460 with rendering. Please explain me.
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I'm using force 2d gpu rendering and I think it smoother, some may disagree with us. But since most apps are not designed or optimized for 3D and high resolution screen, so that's why it's stuttering randomly. If you throw on top with browser2ram, you pretty much very happy with your tab.
I just bought a Korean variant Galaxy S4, KT's SHV-E300K(32GB). As far as I know, this is somewhat rare variant because it's an Exynos-powered S4 with LTE support.
With 2-year contract, I just picked it up without paying any money at the shop. The device costs me 899,000 Won actually and it's approximately $809.55 as of today. Monthly bill from KT will be about $72+ for 30 months, I guess. The guy gave me toilet paper rolls, lol. It's official KT promotion merchandise. Also he promised the shop will provide 3rd party cover/case and the protective film when they get those accessories in stock.
It's pity that I can't test its LTE capability at the moment. Being Saturday, I couldn't activate my new S4 right away. The KT rep said my new S4 will be activated at 10AM in the morning, next Monday. For the weekend till Monday morning, my official phone would be my old iPhone 4.
Cause this is the 1st time for me to use Android device, I'm frankly in panic now. iOS and Android(maybe Touchwiz) are too much different. I think I will have a hard time to get myself accustomed to this Android device.
The device itself is pretty nice. It's so much lighter and thinner compared to my old iPhone 4. The display is just incredible. I have seen lots of S3 and Note 2 around but this phone's screen was just beyond my expectation.
I had purchased Samsung 64GB microSD card(SDXC Pro class 10) before I bought the phone. The 1st work I did was copying iTunes music library from my MBP to the microSD card. It took about 30+ GB already. What I figured out is Apple's bundle earbuds I bought after the launch of iPhone 5 is not fully compatible with S4. Though stop/play button works, volume control button doesn't.
Antutu score was 29108 at my 1st try. Oddly, every time I repeat the test the score keeps going down. I don't know why. Because this is a Korean variant, it has DMB antenna allowing me to watch some TV channels as well as audio-only channel like radios for free.
If you have any question, feel free to ask. Though I'm a newbie to Android.
(I don't know why I can't upload images. Maybe I'm too newbie to upload images, lol. I put some images on picture board of Korean site I frequent and used the hot links.)
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Benchmark Test Results/Scores
I'm not a professional device tester. Some scores below include what are from non-best condition like consecutive tests, non-airplane mode, other apps in execution, etc. Take that into consideration.
For screenshot images, check my replies in the thread.
Antutu benchmark v3.3 test : 29,108
SunSpider test Samsung stock browser : total 1026.3ms +/- 7.4%
SunSpider test Chrome browser : total 980.5ms +/- 4.6%
3DMark test Icestrom : 10,207
3DMark test Icestorm Extreme : 6,248
GLBenchmark 2.7 T-Rex HD offscreen 699 frames 12 fps
GLBenchmark 2.7 T-Rex HD onscreen 695 frames 12 fps
GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD offscreen 4853 frames 43 fps
GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD onscreen 4549* frames 40 fps
Fill rate offscreen 1158812800 texels/sec
Fill rate onscreen 1061263872 texels/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured offscreen 40577880 triangles/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured onscreen 77569432 triangles/sec
Vellamo HTML5 score 2025
Vellamo Metal score 1062
BaseMark X On-Screen score 9.221 FPS
BaseMark X Off-Screen score 8.898 FPS
Wow, 29108 score on Antutu is amazing.
That's ridiculously faster than the Snapdragon variant.
MaKTaiL said:
Wow, 29108 score on Antutu is amazing.
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Is it? I never cared about benchmark scores much before I started to consider buying new phone.
congratulation dude
so the Korean version runinng @1.6 too
Korean version is 1.8 octa...
The only downside is the carrier bloat and the yamaha audio codec
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Korean version is 1.8 octa...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40769632&postcount=4
Strange, was meant to be 1.8 on gsm arena
Seanambers said:
That's ridiculously faster than the Snapdragon variant.
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Not "ridiculously" faster. This is the Snapdragon variant below.
Guitarfreak26 said:
Strange, was meant to be 1.8 on gsm arena
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It was rumored as such before the actual release but it seems not. I attached the system info screenshots from Antutu app(I changed the language setting that you could read.)
can u please do Sunspider test
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...k.dmandroid.application&feature=search_result
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5nbGJlbmNobWFyay5nbGJlbmNobWFyazI3Il0.
(T-Rex HD on screen + T-Rex HD offscreen + Egypt HD onscreen and offscreen + fill rate onscreen and off screen + triangle throughout onscreen and offscreen )
if your device get hot, the score will go down.
yahyoh said:
can u please do Sunspider test
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/...k.dmandroid.application&feature=search_result
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5nbGJlbmNobWFyay5nbGJlbmNobWFyazI3Il0.
(T-Rex HD on screen + T-Rex HD offscreen + Egypt HD onscreen and offscreen + fill rate onscreen and off screen + triangle throughout onscreen and offscreen )
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I did SunSpider test on default browser(Samsung) and Chrome. I'm not sure this is the test you wanted. Also, I've done 3DMarks test. Both Icestrom and Icestrom extreme. Check the attached images.
1st image - Sunspider test result on Samsung browser : total 1026.3ms +/- 7.4%
2nd image - Sunspider test result on Chrome browser : total 980.5ms +/- 4.6%
3rd image - 3DMark test Icestrom : 10207
4th image - 3DMark test Icestorm Extreme : 6248
I'll try the other test after cooling my device down to some degree, lol.
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if your device get hot, the score will go down.
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I didn't know that the heat can affect the Antutu score. That was why the scores kept decreasing. Thanks you for letting me know!
I've done the GLBenchmark test.
GLBenchmark 2.7 T-Rex HD offscreen 699 frames 12 fps
GLBenchmark 2.7 T-Rex HD onscreen 695 frames 12 fps
GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD offscreen 4853 frames 43 fps
GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD onscreen 4549* frames 40 fps
Fill rate offscreen 1158812800 texels/sec
Fill rate onscreen 1061263872 texels/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured offscreen 40577880 triangles/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured onscreen 77569432 triangles/sec
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I've done the GLBenchmark test.
Fill rate offscreen 1158812800 texels/sec
Fill rate onscreen 1061263872 texels/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured offscreen 40577880 triangles/sec
Triangle throughput: Textured onscreen 77569432 triangles/sec
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Thanks for the tests.
I think that something is not right with these numbers.
Either the firmware is still not optimized, or it's throttling for some reason.
http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?cols=2&D1=Samsung+GT-I9500+Galaxy+S4&D2=Apple+iPhone+5
If I compare against iPhone 5, the Triangle throughput is clearly so bad.
I don't know the explanation for this. But I think there is still some room for improvement with the low-level results.
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I did SunSpider test on default browser(Samsung) and Chrome. I'm not sure this is the test you wanted. Also, I've done 3DMarks test. Both Icestrom and Icestrom extreme. Check the attached images.
1st image - Sunspider test result on Samsung browser : total 1026.3ms +/- 7.4%
2nd image - Sunspider test result on Chrome browser : total 980.5ms +/- 4.6%
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The results looks much different from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40772427&postcount=10
Maybe the phone was throttling during the test.
@procol: hi, when you do some benchs, you should close all apps and go in planemode. No WiFi, GPS and so too.
3dmark is not so high in your example. My one reaches more then your S4, but it should be atm s4>one, cuz of driver.
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Can you please post the Velamo benchmark results? For both, 3D y cpu. Try to keep the phone cold between tests, if gets hot, leave it a while.
Btw, toilet paper ftw lol
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Thanks for the tests.
I think that something is not right with these numbers.
Either the firmware is still not optimized, or it's throttling for some reason.
http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?cols=2&D1=Samsung+GT-I9500+Galaxy+S4&D2=Apple+iPhone+5
If I compare against iPhone 5, the Triangle throughput is clearly so bad.
I don't know the explanation for this. But I think there is still some room for improvement with the low-level results.
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The results looks much different from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40772427&postcount=10
Maybe the phone was throttling during the test.
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Maybe I'm not a good tester, haha. I think the other results will surface soon from the Korean variants.
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@procol: hi, when you do some benchs, you should close all apps and go in planemode. No WiFi, GPS and so too.
3dmark is not so high in your example. My one reaches more then your S4, but it should be atm s4>one, cuz of driver.
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Hmm, maybe that's another points I failed to catch maybe.
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Can you please post the Velamo benchmark results? For both, 3D y cpu. Try to keep the phone cold between tests, if gets hot, leave it a while.
Btw, toilet paper ftw lol
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I'm not sure I've done the test you spoke of exactly, but I attached the screenshot image. 2 tests from HTML 5 category wanted me to turn on wifi so I did it on. Yeah, toilet paper is really odd.
Vellamo HTML5 score 2025
Vellamo Metal score 1062
procol said:
Maybe I'm not a good tester, haha. I think the other results will surface soon from the Korean variants.
Hmm, maybe that's another points I failed to catch maybe.
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A small tip -- allow few mins between the tests to let the phone cool-off.
Maybe a reboot will also help between the tests.
Also try a BaseMark X test!
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It was rumored as such before the actual release but it seems not. I attached the system info screenshots from Antutu app(I changed the language setting that you could read.)
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Piece of advice : hide your IMEI number in those screenshots, that's something you don't want to show to everyone.
Hi I seem to be getting very low scores in 3d mark sling shot extreme on my new s8+. I get a scores of about 2600 and it tells me it's a low score for my device.
I have game mode on and max performance in the game launcher selected. No battery saving.
Physics I get great scores it's just the graphics that are low.
I'm I doing anything wrong?
Did you ever get an answer to this?
I know benchmarks are really not a real indication of real world performance, but I am seeing the same results in Slingshot Extreme and would like to know why there is such a discrepancy with what is reported as the average score by futuremark/3dmark.
I have tried it on every possible resolution setting, across all of the gaming mode profiles, with and without the game launcher to try to find the cause for the lower score, but have been unsuccessful.
My main concern is that the performance in gaming is in fact lower across the board, but not noticeable due to it not affecting current generation games FPS.
With Black Desert Mobile coming out in a week or so, I want to make sure that I can play it without issues.
Anyone who has any insight on this feel free to chime in. I suspect it is something that was changed in an OTA update, but I don't know where to start looking.
My device model is:
Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus (AT&T) [SM-G955U]
Snapdragon 835 (MSM8998)
The expected benchmark results are:
---Sling Shot Extreme---
Average score: 3414
Physics score: 2806
Graphics score: 3646
Graphics test 1: 22 FPS
Graphics test 2: 12 FPS
Physics test part 1: 49 FPS
Physics test part 2: 29 FPS
Physics test part 3: 16 FPS
My results:
---Sling Shot Extreme---
Average score: 2549
Physics score: 2733
Graphics score: 2501
Graphics test 1: 17.5 FPS
Graphics test 2: 7.9 FPS
Physics test part 1: 48.9 FPS
Physics test part 2: 28.3 FPS
Physics test part 3: 15.3 FPS
As stated by the OP, Physics scores are fine, but Graphics scores are pretty low.
I have the S8+ Exynos and i get the same score and the app tells me that my score is below average so I'm also confused
Hi,
I think that 3d mark doesn't make a difference in score between "unlimited" and "normal". That's why the score is "bad"
Run 3dmark with the default settings for it, without the "game mode" on. The continuous performance benefits from non-game in Samsung devices(past 6.0?). GPU % is reduced much more compared to CPU. Search SIOP_ARM_MAX, limitCPUFreq, limitGPUFreq in the logcat to check if it's this. Maybe it's to increase the life expectancy of various components (the battery at least), maybe it's because people sometimes complain about the heat, maybe it's to save power.