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[Q] Terrible voice quallity in 2.2 Roms

Hi there everybody, I have friend with a captivate and i would like to try to see if we can get his problem resovled. Whenever he flashed over to a 2.2 Rom the audio quality ( what the person on the OTHER line hears) is terrible! The first one we tried was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827153
AospMOd space man with the Setiron kernel. Then he called me and i noticed that the the audio i heard sounded literally sounded like a walky talky. It was really really bad.
So then we odin flashed back to stock and it sounded great just like before.
Now he's on AXURA with the default kernel (Setiron i believe anyway) and i dont think it sounds AS bad but it might just be my imagination. But i know it doesnt sound anywhere NEAR as good as the stock rom and kernel, stilll very poor in comparison.
Has anyone noticed this same issue? Anyone have any ideas on possible problems or fixes?
P.s. I am a EVO 4g owner and am active here on the EVO forums, so i know my way around android and adb and all that, so dont worry about scaring me with ideas lol
P.P.s I have no idea how it works on GSM, but i know on CDMA phones, we have a system menu through the dialer that lets us change whats called a vocoder. or basically, the audio codec/compression received from the tower and it specifically and directly is what effects our audio quality. im not sure if there is anything like that in GSM (more that likely not), but i figured id at least bring up the idea.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-evo-4g/124138-increase-call-quality.html

Yeah my friends and family complain about my voice quality also.. I think something is up with these roms?

It has nothing to do with ROMs and everything to do with modems.

nickbarbs said:
Yeah my friends and family complain about my voice quality also.. I think something is up with these roms?
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I believe the instructions tell you to flash the JK3 modem file.

It's also worth mentioning that the Captivate has a special Audience voice processing chip that none of the other Galaxy S variants have.
While I'm not 100% sure about it, I don't think any of the leaked 2.2 ROMs or radios are actually using it at the moment. Especially if you are running a i9000 reoriented kernel. That means that instead, voice processing is being done by the modem. So this could be what you're noticing.
Personally, I'm using a i9000 ROM w/ SetiroN's kernel and I have excellent voice quality on both ends. But of course, YMMV.

we need a sound fix

Other than the stock rom most of these other roms have very tinny audio when on calls. I have noticed that the sound through the headphone jack in my car sounds ok.
I am asking the devs on here to please take a close look at this for the community.
Running cm7 with oc kernel

Amen. Praisethe10chars

I am getting frustrated beyond belief with the Inspire. I am about ready to put everything back to stock and return it.
I am running CM7, it runs great, but I can not stand the tinny call quality. I have flashed different radios, and still nothing.
Very frustrated.

I'll guess I'll hold off for now. Using a phone for work with little to no sound doesn't sound like to much fun.

I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.

The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
Sent from my Inspire 4G.

Stock but rooted? I thought that left no sound

hololight said:
I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.
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slapdaddy said:
The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
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The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.

Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.

It's almost a hollow sound for me. And I get echo of what I say through the earpiece from time to time.

chrisryn said:
Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.
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Think of a combination of a low-frequency 1980's cordless phone combined with the calling experience through skype\google voice over 3G. It's a highly digitized sounding call experience, both on speakerphone and earpiece.

ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Correct, in fact, volume is GREAT, it's just the garbled\digitized sound. It'll crank plenty loud till it really distorts, so volume is good.
UPDATE: contrary to what a couple others have said, it's still distorted when using an external headphone.... not as noticable as using the phone's speaker or earpiece, but distorted more so than stock, for sure.

Thank you for looking into it for us.

Chrisryn is on the case folks. He's good. The Andromeda ROM he was on for the Captivate is what kept me from tossing it out the window.
Now we just need to get the rest of the team on Inspires. Andromeda for Inspire please?

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Very cool. Thanks for looking into this. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I am more than happy to be a guinea pig.

from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
also, jasonyump has a few audio fix tests for people to try.

mattbollenbach said:
from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
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I'm still looking for this answer: If I use this "stock ATT ROM" will I lose my HSUPA or has that been enabled on THIS stock rom?

This is my number one complaint with all the custome ROMS is the "tinny" sound. Thank you so much for looking into this

tpbklake said:
The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.
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Wasn't that source the Desire HD kernel source, which is different from the Inspire kernel source as far as audio goes?
Sent from my Inspire 4G.

[Q] Root = Audio Issues = Warranty replacement

First, thank you to all the developers. I have really enjoyed cutting my teeth and learning how to max out my HTC. I recently had to get a warranty replacement because the audio just got corrupted.
On my previous HTC I used the following
Bubby's Root/ S-off
Ran several different ROM's - HD REvo, LeeDroid, CWM etc.
Then used the S-On.exe and reinstalled the factory rom for warranty compliance.
I feel like my meddling is what caused the audio corruption.
I loved the speed and the hotspot benefits of rooting, but I am afraid to damage my new HTC. In your opinions, how can I root and minimize audio issues?
Thanks, you guys are great. I'll never be able to contribute at your levels, but I do donate.

Hands down easiest and safest way, period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352

What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)

jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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You may have had special circumstances.
"Deteriorated from rom to rom" gives me the impression there might have been something else going perhaps with the hardware itself, a bad component that over time got progressively worse.
Not to mention there's usually an explanation for most of the radio/sound quality issues that people have run in to that are attributed to rom flashing.
I'm rooted, on a custom rom, as are many, many people here, without any sound issues as a result of the rooting process itself.
I used bubby's simple root, and used the stock rom that resulted from that process for a long time before moving to a custom rom.
I do understand being hesitant with a new replacement phone though, but I really think you'll be ok.
FWIW, there are people here who "meddle with their phone" multiple times a day with different roms. Your "meddling" is not what caused your issue, unless possibly you weren't properly wiping the phone prior to your subsequent rom flashes.
Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium

jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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I hate to sound like prick but honestly you really should never hack a phone that is counted on like that . Imo, which doesn't mean much lol, sounds like you might want to invest in two phones. I know it sounds expensive but the way it sounds is that you might have caught the flashing bug that goes around xda or you wouldn't be here lol. I just know that no rom can be counted on 100% and should never be considered stable enough for something that you can't risk something going wrong.
Again, sorry to sound like a prick and hope I made sense I'm half a sleep lol
Sent From My HTC Inspire 4G @ 1.4Ghz | [ROM] CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V6.6 | [KERNEL] LeeDrOiD GB v3.1.2 >EPIC!<

It's a hit and miss game.
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Kizzmiazz said:
I hate to sound like prick but honestly you really should never hack a phone that is counted on like that . Imo, which doesn't mean much lol, sounds like you might want to invest in two phones. I know it sounds expensive but the way it sounds is that you might have caught the flashing bug that goes around xda or you wouldn't be here lol. I just know that no rom can be counted on 100% and should never be considered stable enough for something that you can't risk something going wrong.
Again, sorry to sound like a prick and hope I made sense I'm half a sleep lol
Sent From My HTC Inspire 4G @ 1.4Ghz | [ROM] CoreDroid HD GB 2.3.3 V6.6 | [KERNEL] LeeDrOiD GB v3.1.2 >EPIC!<
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I don't think that sounds prick-ish. It's an honest opinion that makes a lot of sense.
Inspired Ace 1.0.1¦ XDA Premium

jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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Why in the world are you rooting and running custom ROMs on a business critical phone???
edit: Disregard, I see others have already commented on this. Wasn't trying to pile on.

Sensation issues..

Srry for the cheesy title, but it's all i can think of atm.
I'm new to the Android world (Sensation 4G TMOUS being my first phone; owned for about a month) - using it on ROGERS on 2G atm until i can switch to an appropriate AWS carrier.
So anyways, my phone's rooted and has the Android Revolution HD 1.1.7 ROM flashed, but despite this, it's suffering from occasional lag and has some other certain issues such as it will randomly hang and i have to do a hard reset (battery removal) for it to function again... this is getting really frustrating because of how random the issue is. I tried the no-sense script, but that still hangs as well. Could this have to do with the kernels or something? I flashed the right radio for 1.1.7, but am not entirely sure what part the kernel plays and how it affects things.
It also at times when put on standby, fails to power on (rarely but it does occur); as in when i press the power button, the 4 buttons at the bottom light up, but there's nothing on the display... followed by them staying on for a few seconds before turning off again.
Just this morning (for the first time), when i unplugged the phone from the charger, it was burning hot.. and by hot i don't mean warm, but actually uncomfortable to hold - had to do a hard reset for it function again after which it gradually cooled down.
Another thing i wasn't too sure about is "trace". How come i can use trace in the "messages" app, but not in the browser/facebook etc. What's up with that ?
It's really frustrating that i'm stuck with the catastrophe that is lag.. once again (coming from a Nokia N95) and honestly at times i feel really disappointed in the decision i made when choosing a new phone.. it seems. I mean not only does the competition beat us in benchies/day-to-day tasks, but this horrid lag issue is really taking the Sensation right outta the contest.
I've contemplated creating a new thread about this, but wasn't sure because a lot of these issues have been discussed, but i had not heard of this dead-on-standby issue plus the fact that i sorta wanted to rant a little bit and thought instead of flooding the forum with multiple threads, why not make one big one. In any case i apologize if this is frustrating for anyone, but all i'm looking for is some help. Thank you.

It looks like these are the issues with newest ARHD. For speed try InsertCoin 2.3.4 (or RCMIX 2.3.4, they're basically the same). Probably the fastest Sense ROM
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

The problems you have, have been mentioned many times in the ARHD thread. It's a kernel issue. Try flashing another kernel like the unity kernel.

Thing is i'm really contemplating exchanging the phone for another (Galaxy SII preferably), but i'm not sure if this lag issue and other minor hiccups are gonna be a regular occurence or not.
If i'm going to sell it.. i have to sell it now when it has some sort of value in the market and not say in a few months by when perhaps cyanogenmod is already out and the price of the phone has dropped.
What would you guys do ?

saffant said:
Thing is i'm really contemplating exchanging the phone for another (Galaxy SII preferably), but i'm not sure if this lag issue and other minor hiccups are gonna be a regular occurence or not.
If i'm going to sell it.. i have to sell it now when it has some sort of value in the market and not say in a few months by when perhaps cyanogenmod is already out and the price of the phone has dropped.
What would you guys do ?
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You want to exchange the phone because of an issue with CUSTOM Rom/Kernel (except the lag, it also happens on stock). At least try stock/other Rom/kernel before that.
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Download the latest ARHD 1.1.8 and many of these issues should be over.

idavid_ said:
You want to exchange the phone because of an issue with CUSTOM Rom/Kernel (except the lag, it also happens on stock). At least try stock/other Rom/kernel before that.
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Stock is worse..
@DiZzle.
Yea i'll give that a try. Thanks.

I had similar issues and went back to stock ROM with ADW launcher. I tried various kernels etc. but gave up. 1.1.8 might be better, can't comment on it though. I think that 1.1.8 was going to revert to stock kernel btw. I also used a ROM cleaner to remove a lot of bloatware.
I'm just waiting for CM7 on my Sensation.

Just hang on and follow how fast the custom rom scene is evolving right now.
I guess for kernel issues we gotta wait until there's a proper kernel source available

[Q] Ongoing Bluetooth Headset outgoing voice quality issues - recommended ROM?

I am currently having outgoing voice quality issues while using a bluetooth headset (or in car/truck bluetooth) that I am trying to nail down with both HTC and Jawbone. I'm 90% sure at this point it's an HTC issue. I purchased an HTC One M8 on Verizon a week or so ago and immediately had issues with my Jawbone ERA. Voices sounded fine on my end but my voice on the other end sounded static-ey and overly loud - almost like the mic was too hot. I tried a ton of troubleshooting steps with both Jawbone and HTC and so far the issue remains. I also took the phone back and exchanged it for a new one and the new phone has the same issue. I've now tried 5 different bluetooth devices all with the same/similar result.
I found an old HTC One (M7 I think?) thread over on Android Central that seemed to be discussing the same issue:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/309574-anyone-else-having-bluetooth-headset-sound-quality-issues-one.html
but no solution was found and it sounds like most people there just sort of gave up.
Sorry for the long explanation but one thing I wanted to try was using a ROM with a different bluetooth stack or system to see if that might point me to an HTC software issue vs a strict hardware issue. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm fairly comfortable with installing ROMs though on my old Droid, Safestrap certainly made it easier for me.
Thanks!

I had a ridiculous static with my jaybirds so I just ended up returning the headphones and ditching Bluetooth sadly. I don't think a ROM will change it
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

So there's no difference in bluetooth implementations between a Sense based ROM and say an AOSP or CM based ROM?

AustinML71 said:
So there's no difference in bluetooth implementations between a Sense based ROM and say an AOSP or CM based ROM?
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Well, out of curiosity I s-off'd the phone, perma-rooted, and flashed TWRP. I installed the GPE ROM, the Viper ROM, and the latest nightly of Cyanogenmod. Interestingly, the CM rom seemed to have MUCH improved outgoing bluetooth voice quality. The other ROMs all had the same issue.
Does CM somehow use a different bluetooth stack or something that would cause this? Honestly, I'd stay on the CM but I actually like some of the HTC features (like the duo-camera) and not sure I'd want to give those things up. Would it somehow be possible to use CM's bluetooth solution in something like the GPE ROM or even stock?

AustinML71 said:
I am currently having outgoing voice quality issues while using a bluetooth headset (or in car/truck bluetooth) that I am trying to nail down with both HTC and Jawbone. I'm 90% sure at this point it's an HTC issue. I purchased an HTC One M8 on Verizon a week or so ago and immediately had issues with my Jawbone ERA. Voices sounded fine on my end but my voice on the other end sounded static-ey and overly loud - almost like the mic was too hot. I tried a ton of troubleshooting steps with both Jawbone and HTC and so far the issue remains. I also took the phone back and exchanged it for a new one and the new phone has the same issue. I've now tried 5 different bluetooth devices all with the same/similar result.
I found an old HTC One (M7 I think?) thread over on Android Central that seemed to be discussing the same issue:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one/309574-anyone-else-having-bluetooth-headset-sound-quality-issues-one.html
but no solution was found and it sounds like most people there just sort of gave up.
Sorry for the long explanation but one thing I wanted to try was using a ROM with a different bluetooth stack or system to see if that might point me to an HTC software issue vs a strict hardware issue. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm fairly comfortable with installing ROMs though on my old Droid, Safestrap certainly made it easier for me.
Thanks!
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I'm on CleanRom and I'm also extremely sensitive to Bluetooth quality issues. I'm using both a Plantronics Legend and the Bose ear pieces and I hook the device up to a Pioneer DEH-80PRS in my car. I have to say I've never had a better Bluetooth experience. No complaints - superb quality - both ends

MARKREIF said:
I'm on CleanRom and I'm also extremely sensitive to Bluetooth quality issues. I'm using both a Plantronics Legend and the Bose ear pieces and I hook the device up to a Pioneer DEH-80PRS in my car. I have to say I've never had a better Bluetooth experience. No complaints - superb quality - both ends
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I'm now also on CleanRom and it is definitely better. My few tests so far weren't quite as clear as my CM tests but MUCH better than stock. This seems so strange to me. This is just a stripped down Sense ROM, like others yet a significant difference in quality. Both Viper and GPE had the same bad quality as stock. I wish I had the understanding/capability to truly root cause the issue as I'd love to have the freedom to use whichever ROM I choose. However, I do very much like CleanRom for now - the Verizon bloat on this phone was the worst I've ever had yet I do like a few of the Sense 6 features.