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we need a sound fix

Other than the stock rom most of these other roms have very tinny audio when on calls. I have noticed that the sound through the headphone jack in my car sounds ok.
I am asking the devs on here to please take a close look at this for the community.
Running cm7 with oc kernel

Amen. Praisethe10chars

I am getting frustrated beyond belief with the Inspire. I am about ready to put everything back to stock and return it.
I am running CM7, it runs great, but I can not stand the tinny call quality. I have flashed different radios, and still nothing.
Very frustrated.

I'll guess I'll hold off for now. Using a phone for work with little to no sound doesn't sound like to much fun.

I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.

The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
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Stock but rooted? I thought that left no sound

hololight said:
I am still running stock and the sound is fine... so basically the problems are all related to shoehorned kernels. Wait till source is released in a few weeks and I am sure the problems will be resolved.
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.
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The source may not be released in just a few weeks...it could take quite longer, maybe up to 90 days. :/
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
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The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.

Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.

It's almost a hollow sound for me. And I get echo of what I say through the earpiece from time to time.

chrisryn said:
Ok I need more explaination on the "tiny" sound issue. Is it a volume level issue or something else. I'm familiar with fixing kernel sound issues on the captivate i can take a look at source to see what I can find but I need a better description of the issue. I'm currently still running stock do to the fact that i'm enjoying sense and haven't had the time to do the root process yet(so no sound issue for me), but I can still rummage through source and see what I can come up with.
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Think of a combination of a low-frequency 1980's cordless phone combined with the calling experience through skype\google voice over 3G. It's a highly digitized sounding call experience, both on speakerphone and earpiece.

ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Correct, in fact, volume is GREAT, it's just the garbled\digitized sound. It'll crank plenty loud till it really distorts, so volume is good.
UPDATE: contrary to what a couple others have said, it's still distorted when using an external headphone.... not as noticable as using the phone's speaker or earpiece, but distorted more so than stock, for sure.

Thank you for looking into it for us.

Chrisryn is on the case folks. He's good. The Andromeda ROM he was on for the Captivate is what kept me from tossing it out the window.
Now we just need to get the rest of the team on Inspires. Andromeda for Inspire please?

chrisryn said:
ok so its quality not volume. So that would probably mean radio kernel interfacing I'll look into it.
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Very cool. Thanks for looking into this. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. I am more than happy to be a guinea pig.

from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
also, jasonyump has a few audio fix tests for people to try.

mattbollenbach said:
from what i gathered, it isn't a a kernel issue, so much as issues with the dolby information.
if 100% sound is important, use attn1s stock rooted rom. i keep a nandroid of it for when i need to use my phone as my mp3 player. otherwise, i'm running CM7.
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I'm still looking for this answer: If I use this "stock ATT ROM" will I lose my HSUPA or has that been enabled on THIS stock rom?

This is my number one complaint with all the custome ROMS is the "tinny" sound. Thank you so much for looking into this

tpbklake said:
The kernel source was released yesterday by HTC, that is why you are seeing different kernels and ROMs in this forum now. I'm sure the devs are looking at this long and hard for a solution.
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Wasn't that source the Desire HD kernel source, which is different from the Inspire kernel source as far as audio goes?
Sent from my Inspire 4G.

Inspire Call Quality

Anyone having call quality issues? I have been making a lot of phone calls lately with my Inspire (rooted with Revolution 3.0) and the people on the other end either can't hear me well or the call drops. I know AT&T blows, but this seems much worse then my IP4.
Is there anything I can do to try and fix this.. or is it just the nature of the phone and/or network? I sounds fine on my end.
Thanks

ever since i rooted and flashed a cooked rom my call qaulity has gone down also on every rom ive tried.blows hard

There is a sound fix for the custom roms. It is in the dev forums. The problems come from using the desire HD roms on our phones. I believe that some of the custom roms have the fix baked in but just to make sure flash it through custom recovery. My call quality is now perfect. As far as other people not hearing you, I never had that issue and if you are having that it might be a manufacture defect or network based. The only issue regarding call quality is the tinny sound but like i said that is fixed with the CWM flashable zip.

I have been getting a lot of dropped calls using the stock ROM. I report every single one of them hoping that they will get the hint and do something about it lol
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[Q] Root = Audio Issues = Warranty replacement

First, thank you to all the developers. I have really enjoyed cutting my teeth and learning how to max out my HTC. I recently had to get a warranty replacement because the audio just got corrupted.
On my previous HTC I used the following
Bubby's Root/ S-off
Ran several different ROM's - HD REvo, LeeDroid, CWM etc.
Then used the S-On.exe and reinstalled the factory rom for warranty compliance.
I feel like my meddling is what caused the audio corruption.
I loved the speed and the hotspot benefits of rooting, but I am afraid to damage my new HTC. In your opinions, how can I root and minimize audio issues?
Thanks, you guys are great. I'll never be able to contribute at your levels, but I do donate.

Hands down easiest and safest way, period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352

What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)

jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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You may have had special circumstances.
"Deteriorated from rom to rom" gives me the impression there might have been something else going perhaps with the hardware itself, a bad component that over time got progressively worse.
Not to mention there's usually an explanation for most of the radio/sound quality issues that people have run in to that are attributed to rom flashing.
I'm rooted, on a custom rom, as are many, many people here, without any sound issues as a result of the rooting process itself.
I used bubby's simple root, and used the stock rom that resulted from that process for a long time before moving to a custom rom.
I do understand being hesitant with a new replacement phone though, but I really think you'll be ok.
FWIW, there are people here who "meddle with their phone" multiple times a day with different roms. Your "meddling" is not what caused your issue, unless possibly you weren't properly wiping the phone prior to your subsequent rom flashes.
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jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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I hate to sound like prick but honestly you really should never hack a phone that is counted on like that . Imo, which doesn't mean much lol, sounds like you might want to invest in two phones. I know it sounds expensive but the way it sounds is that you might have caught the flashing bug that goes around xda or you wouldn't be here lol. I just know that no rom can be counted on 100% and should never be considered stable enough for something that you can't risk something going wrong.
Again, sorry to sound like a prick and hope I made sense I'm half a sleep lol
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It's a hit and miss game.
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Kizzmiazz said:
I hate to sound like prick but honestly you really should never hack a phone that is counted on like that . Imo, which doesn't mean much lol, sounds like you might want to invest in two phones. I know it sounds expensive but the way it sounds is that you might have caught the flashing bug that goes around xda or you wouldn't be here lol. I just know that no rom can be counted on 100% and should never be considered stable enough for something that you can't risk something going wrong.
Again, sorry to sound like a prick and hope I made sense I'm half a sleep lol
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I don't think that sounds prick-ish. It's an honest opinion that makes a lot of sense.
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jfayer said:
What about sound quality?
The way I rooted was easy enough, but the sound quality just deteriated from ROM to ROM
I run a business of my phone and cant afford to lose business over poor call wuality. My old HTC got so bad that people wouldnt talk to me on it, then the phone app would crash, or jump in and out of different output modes randomly (headset, handset, bluetooth etc)
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Why in the world are you rooting and running custom ROMs on a business critical phone???
edit: Disregard, I see others have already commented on this. Wasn't trying to pile on.

Muffed Voice Testing

I decided to put this in the developer forum because i really feel like this is a problem with the roms/tweaks and needs to be looked into.
If the moderators thing otherwise i am sorry then.
I have been getting complaints with friends over the fact that i come in muffed. When i plug in the headphones that came with the phone to talk they say there is a big increase in clarity. They say when i am muffled they really need to focus to understand what i am saying. I decided to try a few different roms and surprisingly the quality has been different. I have used the same radio in every rom test as follows:
Radio : 10.56.9035.00P_10.14.9035.01_M (This should be the newest TMO OTA radio)
Roms:
Android Revolution HD 3.0.1 (Initial Rom i had. Very Muffled. No dual core patch.)
Android Revolution HD 3.0.3 (Upgraded to this one wondering if it will be fixed. Same muffledness. Had dual core patch)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
Stock TMOUS 2.3.3 - rooted/de-odexed(This had almost no muffleness, was the clearest of them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207410
Stock TMOUS 2.3.4 - rooted/de-odexed (This was almost as good Stock 2.3.3. Very hard to tell the dif)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226686
Superlite *v1.3* by HTCCLAY (Very bad muffling again)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229073
InsertCoin Sense Android 2.3.4 Stable 2.3.0 (Medium Amount of muffleness)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198684
http://insertcoinrom.blogspot.com/search/label/pyramid
In all cases the headphones preformed the same amount. They were pretty clear and really helped the muffleness except in the case of insertcoin. The headphones also seemed to have a slight amount of muffleness to them, the difference between headphones and mic was slight.
I have seen other posts about this issue but no clear explaination or dirrection in trying to fix them. I hope this jump starts stuff.
It seems the more modified roms are the ones experiencing the issue... but obviously this isnt the most comprehensive testing.
I did these test over the course of 3 hours with my brother. He stayed in his room in the house and i stepped outside on the sidewalk in the same place every time. Wifi calling was NOT used.
***Edit***
Found these posts where people report similar issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17093923
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225452
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16580966

i tried ARHD and IC2.3.0 - no muffled voice from my end. in fact, it was crystal clear. IMO if you've plugged in your earpiece and it sounds ok on the other end, then there's a high chance its the set's microphone thats faulty.
i suggest switching back to stock rom (S-on etc) and see how it goes. if its still muffled, its time to go for warranty

Have moved this to the General forum (for the time being at least).
You'll need to find out if other Sensation users have the same problem. I haven't had anyone tell me they have trouble hearing me with any custom ROMs.

awesam said:
i tried ARHD and IC2.3.0 - no muffled voice from my end. in fact, it was crystal clear. IMO if you've plugged in your earpiece and it sounds ok on the other end, then there's a high chance its the set's microphone thats faulty.
i suggest switching back to stock rom (S-on etc) and see how it goes. if its still muffled, its time to go for warranty
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Well i have tried the stock roms and its been reported to sound alot better.
It would be nice if we had that multiboot thing going on our phones lol
And i didnt try S-On again because i heard it runs the risk of bricking....

I have the same problem except if I was to call someone, my voice to them would sound like garbage. Obviously its noticeable as well cause they will tell me they can't hear me and it sounds like crap.
For me,
Roms that have this:
Android Revolution
Senseless
Roms that don't:
Virtuous(currently on)

i had those "garbage" sounds on almost every phone i owned accept for the Nokia 5210 and below Its telco problem not the phone.
phones with garbage sound (that i have owned) : BB9800, iPhone2/3/4, Desire, E72
@yajinni - have you tried switching phone with your brother ? let him use the "muffled" phone instead. it 'could' be the way you hold it

awesam said:
@yajinni - have you tried switching phone with your brother ? let him use the "muffled" phone instead. it 'could' be the way you hold it
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Its worth a try i guess but if it does do that its retarded. I use android because i hate apple but i get the same issues as them? lol
Will test with more roms and will try Virtuous when i get the chance. Are you using 1.3?

[Q] ICS & Flash Video

Okay, maybe someone will know the answer to this.
Every single ICS rom I've tried... and I'm pretty sure that's all of them... has had abysmal performance playing flash video through a browser. I'm talking from
jt's original ICS... to
Entropy's ICS...to
uniporn
jblparisi's
remixICS
etc. etc.
Now, just to be clear... all of those ROMs that I mentioned I thoroughly enjoy... they had/have a lot of work put into them, and I thank the devs.
But this puzzles me... I had perfect flash video playback on a number of GB roms... notably AEON... now we move to ICS... and it's incapable of doing the same thing?
Also, whatever the problem is, it is some kind of common thread that runs through every ICS release for the infuse. I've tested. There is no example of this problem not being present.
Anyone have information, or a solution, or have noticed this problem themselves?
Thanks

I do agree with your statement.
I think this is due to the Wi-Fi and data speeds. Unlike GB ROMs, build.prop has not yet been extensively looked at in ICS ROMs. Network speed drops can be expected going from GB to ICS.
Again, this is just my opinion. Do not take my word for it.
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You have a good point there, build.prop was not something that had occurred to me.
The only thing that makes me suspicious of that particular theory is...surely all the ICS roms can't have the same build.prop settings, right? So if it was coming from there, I guess I'd be expecting to see some roms performing better or worse than others... and yet when it comes to flash video, they are pretty consistently bad, with little variation.
Thanks for the idea though, I hope that you're right and that this is just something that can be fixed by build.prop rewrites.

You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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mg2195 said:
You do have adobe flash player installed right? Unlike gingerbread roms I don't know of an ics Rom that comes with flash player installed...when I had the infuse as soon as I installed flash player I never had a problem with flash videos...also I never had a problem with slower network speeds...
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Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)

dht2005 said:
Hehehe yeah I'm not that much of a fool =P
I tested everything I'm talking about with flash player installed. ICS can't deal with the video, it sticks and sputters like a broken faucet... super choppy, stops and starts... etc.
I can't testify 100% but I'm pretty sure that my data speeds on ICS are reduced as compared to GB roms.
With Wi-Fi, however, I think the speeds are comparable.
If this was happening on a PC, I could fix it. My first thought would be video driver issues, so I would remove all traces and then install the newest version.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple on Android...
I've read tons of discussions with Entropy and others talking about the video libs, and I remember that while the idea of "perfect smooth video" sounds like something that should be easy/simple to accomplish... it's actually a pretty deep rabbit hole. It seemed to me it's a fairly complex problem that draws on a lot of areas and takes a lot of work to get right.
I just wonder what this could be... what did GB have that ICS doesn't?
thanks for the reply, mg =)
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Well...ics is aosp/aokp...so it is highly likely it could be missing some video libs and what not...off the top of ky head I know for a fact that gb has TWframeworks as well as many different libs...I have no infuse to test the choppy video so when I say i never expiernced it that is just based off my memory...basically what in getting at is that your theory is possible
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Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)

dht2005 said:
Thanks! yeah, I'm no android expert, I'm just going by what makes sense to me.
Assuming just for a second that video libs were in fact the issue...I have a couple questions.
Is there anyone who would know how to identify the specific source of the problem?
Is there any more information I could somehow get/provide that might help?
Or is this just the kind of issue where... ICS is pretty new still, and in time it will probably be fixed? (wait & see)
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Well logcats always help...those say exactly what your phone is doing and provide all errors your phone is receiving...from what I've seen, pony (the guy providing logcats for the miui build) is good with logcats...but he's busy with miui. I'm not even sure if you would find anything useful in the logcat anyway since it is somewhat working...I'm sure it will be fixed in time though
So if you know how to logcat then get one and see what it says...if not than just wait, I'm sure someone will end up working on a fix
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