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HTC Sensation is better than SGS2

HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with HTC is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169376

The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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I prefer the sensation to sgs2 regardless of benchmarks or performence, mostly because of sense and nicer aesthetics
But I do have one concern, if you got to system/lib/egl, all the libs say adreno 200, could that be affecting performance?
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Actually the OP is right about the adreno 220 being better than the mali 400. The difference is the way samsung optimized the performance of their GPU with drivers and such. But for what the GPU can do spec wise, adreno 220 is superior. Too bad htc did not do a good job of showcasing that.

jrwingate6 said:
The Exysnos processor is better than the Dual Core Snapdragon just like the Hummingbird was better than the single core Snapdragon. Just be happy with your Sensation and stop trying to justify your purchase. Once the Sensation becomes as smooth as the GSII then we can talk bench marks but for right now during every day real world use, the GSII feels faster. Not to mention the GSII brings hardware acceleration to the browser. Something our Qualcom can't do.
By the way...Error 404 on both links.
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Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.

I trialed one on ATT...and: No its not...(unfortunately)

I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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jony013 said:
Thanks for your reply, I updated those link. Now you will know what you said is not true. I am not justifying anything, True will be true. SGS2 is overclocked to 1.2 by samsung and its all software issues which is, what makes the benchmark result great. Main thing is Other than the GL benchmark, all benchmarking soft is not up to date for the sensation. As its use console-quality 3D graphics and high-end effects such as vertex skinning, full-screen post-processing shader effects, dynamic lighting with full-screen alpha blending, real-time cloth simulation, advanced shader effects like dynamic shadows, god rays, bump mapping.
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Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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psn1819 said:
I think both phones need a cyanogen 2.3.4 rom and then we can see how they perform against each other..sadly for us sensation owners... August couldn't come any quicker lol.
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It will not be August/September for the Sensation. Yes it will be unlocked but that is when the custom rom process begins. It will be weeks to months later before you get any stable releases of everything.

The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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pinhead said:
The final product Samsung has provided in the Galaxy S II appears to be significantly faster than what HTC provides in the Sensation. I do not use the individual parts of my phone. I use the final product. So whoever optimized what does not matter to me as much as what I see on the screen and hold in my hand.
I prefer the Sensation right now. That is also what I own. The phone before that was the G2x and I liked that one as well...I preferred it to the Galaxy S 4g and the MyTouch 4g. Before that I had a preference for GS 4g...and it goes on from there. I buy the phones I prefer. It is kinda funny to see people defend the smartphone they bought as though they designed and built it themselves.
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Exactly, I buy whatever phone I like and right now I use a Sensation and a G2X. I think the Sensation is better than the G2X but I think the GSII is better than the Sensation and I'm not affraid to admit that just because I own the Sensation. If people think the Sensation is better than the GSII then they think the Sensation is the best Android phone available right now since almost every review I've read labels the GSII the best Android device to date. In fact, 9 out of 10 reviews state the GSII took Android to the next level but I haven't read any review stating the Sensation took it to the next level. Maybe if HTC would have released it with optimized drivers we would see reviews stating such.
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I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei

anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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My Sensation gets extremely hot when playing Homerun Battle 3D and my G2X gets no where near as hot when playing the same game. In fact, after playing for 30 minutes it gets so hot that sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive to touch but the accelerometer still works. I think its definitely a driver issue but something shouldn't be getting so hot that it renders the phone useless.
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anarchyuk said:
I am considering getting rid of the sensation due to it getting far to hot, I understand a dual core should put out more heat and its passively cooled but it shouldnt get any where near as hot as it does... I sold my sgs because of how terrible the flashing process is and if i didnt have the efs folder backed up I would of lost my imei
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I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer

That site is funny.
"These benchmark tests shows that Tegra 2 takes the lead over Exynos in almost every category. Specially, this is especially true for mobile gaming."
Looks like everything is better than Exynos.
But you are wrong, sensation is weak.

jrwingate6 said:
Let me ask you something. If the Adreno is so good then why does HomeRun Battle 3D lag sometimes on my Sensation but never lagged once on my Tegra II powered G2X. I could care less about benchmarks or how Samsung is reaching the high numbers. What matters more to me is real world use. I could also care less if Samsung or HTC optimized there processors better than the other. Bottom line. Both of them should be optimized for best performance upon mass release. HTC always has problems with there drivers and quite frankly, the Adreno 220 could be 10 times better than the Mali or the Tegra II but if it doesn't have the software to back it up then its no good to me or you. By the time we get root or better drivers, Tegra III will be out smoking everything in its path including the Adreno 220.
By the way, the Adreno may be better than the Mali but the Snapdragon is very much inferior to the Exynos which is more powerful when it comes to raw processing power. I wish HTC would just ditch Qualcom all together because TI and Samsung continue to **** all over them.
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Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background

Hey people!! This reminds to me, old times with the HTC HD2 ( quetly brillant )
jajajaja yea yea... just quietly brillant... with the optimized drivers!

I have to laugh at all these banchmarks between the two...they aren't exactly valid.
The Sensation has a higher res screen that is has to push...which obviously means it has more work to do....it's not a fair comparison.
And in any case...benchmarks mean nothing to me...I chose to buy the Sensation because it looks so much better than the GS2, it has a better interface in Sense 3, and it's HTC

DazzXP said:
Sounds to me your phone is syncing in the background
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My device syncs nothing but gmail. I have everything off including the HTC weather. I wouldn't even call my Gmail syncing since I'm using the Gmail app which uses push.
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Hoggles said:
I would imagine the heat you're talking about might be the battery not as much as the cpu.
I got my "1900mAh" Anker battery a few days ago and I can confirm, as others have in the Anker thread, that it doesn't get anywhere near as hot as it did with the OEM battery.
The easiest test for me was Angry Birds..... 30-45 min with stock battery, 45c avrg. Very hot to hold, even through my case. This Anker....28c avrg. Barley warm...huge difference.
No matter if the numbers are correct, one thing is for sure....I no longer feel ANY excessive heat even with prolonged heavy use.
If heat is why you'd get rid of your Sensation, spend 10 bones and get a new battery. Cheap and stays cool and lasts way longer
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My Sensation doesn't get hot near the battery. It gets hot at the very bottom where all of the internals are.
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Any hidden Sensation features?

in EU version of the HTC HD2 it turned that it had more internal memory than originally announced..
Therefore are there any hidden features which are not enabled in the Sensation?

So far, hardware realted, just one:
EVO 3D's battery (which has slightly higher capacity) can be used in Sensation.
If there are hidden features to be "unlocked", it will be easier to find them out after the bootloader has been unlocked by HTC next month.

We know of an internal memory of 3gb that are hidden in order to increase performance....

a4ol said:
We know of an internal memory of 3gb that are hidden in order to increase performance....
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where can I read about this?

Euroman28 said:
where can I read about this?
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There is a discussion in the dev forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168521
Edit I think that is the wrong one, I'll try to find the right thread

That's STORAGE memory, not RAM. They won't make a difference in performance. HTC website lists that the Sensation has 4GB internal storage, but so far only 1GB is available for user.

tsekh501 said:
bootloader has been unlocked by HTC next month.
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Where did you here that?

DesignDecay said:
Where did you here that?
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http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/10/htc-promises-unlocked-bootloaders-sensation-evo-3d-september/

Okay thank you for that. I noticed you were American and therefore thought you meant an American release date.

I suppose once HTC release software to unlock the bootloader of the international version, developers here would figure out how to do it on the US version. Afterall the hardwares are mostly the same, the time gap that HTC stated probably has to do with their dealings with the carriers.

I think htc may hide 256M RAM.
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In Qualcomm's soc's specs,fm transmitter seems to be included...
It wouldbe a nice feature for my car!

kwaille said:
In Qualcomm's soc's specs,fm transmitter seems to be included...
It wouldbe a nice feature for my car!
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what would one use that for?

My car has no jack input for mp3 player,so stream my music via fm would be a good thing...

You could always just get a Bluetooth enabled car stereo like I did
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Using the FM transmitter will beat the cost of any bluetooth enabled radio...unless you're a thief. In that case, grab me one too please.

or maybe the Sensation is really a Decepticon

Yes, the Sensation is actually running Winmo 5 with a Sense 3.0 skin.

Mine cloaked itself and now I can't find it

It's not really a hidden hardware feature, but a cool easter egg for gamers.
Under Personalize/Lock Screen, the third option is for the Friends Stream.
If you actually read the post, it's by Jill Valentine, and she's recounting the events of Resident Evil 3! Wonder if Capcom have seen this yet!

[Q] Sensation (XE)???

hey whats up XDA Forums? i'm new to these forums and to android in general but i have a basic knowledge (kinda)... i just wanted to ask about all these ROM's and unlocks that seem to be everywhere. are they interchangeable between the sensation and the sensation XE??? like if there is a ROM or an unlock made for the sensation then can i also use it for the XE??? if not then why isnt there a separate forum section for the XE?
thanks in advance.
-Zedzein

zedzein said:
hey whats up XDA Forums? i'm new to these forums and to android in general but i have a basic knowledge (kinda)... i just wanted to ask about all these ROM's and unlocks that seem to be everywhere. are they interchangeable between the sensation and the sensation XE??? like if there is a ROM or an unlock made for the sensation then can i also use it for the XE??? if not then why isnt there a separate forum section for the XE?
thanks in advance.
-Zedzein
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Yes they are, the XE is basically the same phone and all roms are usable. That's why the XE forum was closed no need for it.
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wadill said:
Yes they are, the XE is basically the same phone and all roms are usable. That's why the XE forum was closed no need for it.
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So your absolutely sure??? And I noticed youre on an XE... Did u root??did u install any roms??? Did they work as advertised??? I want to know everything I can before getting an XE. So do u recommend it?? Does it have significantly better performance than the original sensation???sry I ask too many questions but I really want to know
Thanks
-Zedzein

zedzein said:
So your absolutely sure??? And I noticed youre on an XE... Did u root??did u install any roms??? Did they work as advertised??? I want to know everything I can before getting an XE. So do u recommend it?? Does it have significantly better performance than the original sensation???sry I ask too many questions but I really want to know
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-Zedzein
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I'm not on an XE I've got a T-Mobile sensation 4g. I just flashed arhd and it changes it to say that in the build.prop. (so yeah I'm rooted) I'm absolutely sure you can do anything in this forum for your phone it has the exact same hardware. The only difference is the stock CPU speed is higher, I run at a higher speed than 1.5 now anyway. I have the exact same phone as an XE except for the red in the case and the bigger battery.
All the roms pretty much work as advertised. Some better than others It's up to you to try them all and find out what you like and don't. . That's part of the fun of it.
Do I recommend it... Yes.. the sgs2 is a very good phone too, its a matter of opinion. Personally I wish I could get the gnexus but I'm happy with my sensation.
See my signature now.. I changed the build.prop to sensation 4g without changing roms. (i don't expect you to know what that is but still)
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wadill said:
I'm not on an XE I've got a T-Mobile sensation 4g. I just flashed arhd and it changes it to say that in the build.prop. (so yeah I'm rooted) I'm absolutely sure you can do anything in this forum for your phone it has the exact same hardware. The only difference is the stock CPU speed is higher, I run at a higher speed than 1.5 now anyway. I have the exact same phone as an XE except for the red in the case and the bigger battery.
All the roms pretty much work as advertised. Some better than others It's up to you to try them all and find out what you like and don't. . That's part of the fun of it.
Do I recommend it... Yes.. the sgs2 is a very good phone too, its a matter of opinion. Personally I wish I could get the gnexus but I'm happy with my sensation.
See my signature now.. I changed the build.prop to sensation 4g without changing roms. (i don't expect you to know what that is but still)
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thanks for the reply, i was just making sure
-Zedzein

Hi to all, I'm basically new here and to android and also to sensation, I'd like to ask if there is any noticeable difference when it comes to speed between the sensation and sensation XE? because I've notice that they have the same chipset the MSM8260. If I am to buy a sensation what would you recommend to be better the basic or the XE?
Thanks alot for your time and patience with me

grandduke said:
Hi to all, I'm basically new here and to android and also to sensation, I'd like to ask if there is any noticeable difference when it comes to speed between the sensation and sensation XE? because I've notice that they have the same chipset the MSM8260. If I am to buy a sensation what would you recommend to be better the basic or the XE?
Thanks alot for your time and patience with me
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They have identical processors. HTC Underclocked the CPU on the standard phone down to 1.2GHz, with the XE they let it run at its default setting of 1.5GHz. With Custom ROMs you can overclock either Standard or XE to 1.7Ghz or possibly higher, depends on the actual silicon in the phone, i.e. some phones can handle overclocking better than others.
I believe the XE has a slightly larger capacity battery, up from 1500 to 1700 mAh (not certain the exact figures).

Thanks for the insights, I think I'll go with XE, because I have seen in some post that most processors are done with the same chips and then tested for stability if they are stable without errors they are sold at the advertised clock speed if not they sell it at lower speed..
so it might be a matter of luck if the underclocked cpu would be run at its default speed..
can anyone expound more on this?

grandduke said:
Thanks for the insights, I think I'll go with XE, because I have seen in some post that most processors are done with the same chips and then tested for stability if they are stable without errors they are sold at the advertised clock speed if not they sell it at lower speed..
so it might be a matter of luck if the underclocked cpu would be run at its default speed..
can anyone expound more on this?
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Nope, My original Sensation is clocking @1.72Ghz with fantastic battery life and no overheating issues.
My recommendation would be to go for the original Sensation if you can get it cheaper Those Beats headphones aren't all they are made up to be, and i've got the XE software running quite happily.

mrew42 said:
Nope, My original Sensation is clocking @1.72Ghz with fantastic battery life and no overheating issues.
My recommendation would be to go for the original Sensation if you can get it cheaper Those Beats headphones aren't all they are made up to be, and i've got the XE software running quite happily.
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But going for the XE also yields a better battery, so if they are the same price, i would def. go for the XE

chrwadum said:
But going for the XE also yields a better battery, so if they are the same price, i would def. go for the XE
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£10/$10/€10 wisely spent in Amazon will do better than the XE battery

They won't be of the same price..its because of the over hyped beat earphone, I'm not after the earphone though, I've tested it and didm't impress me much..I'm after the battery and the case has a nicer color than the original sensation, though I'm thinking of buying the original if the price diff is wide.
I'll just buy another battery if the need arises.

by the way if any of you were give the choice between XE or XL which would you choose?

grandduke said:
by the way if any of you were give the choice between XE or XL which would you choose?
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XE hands down.
XL is single core and with a slightly bigger screen, not worth it IMO. If you want a big screen with good performance get a Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Note.

Just got my new XE guys...and very happy with it..
Why doesn't HTC put all the good stuff in one unit?
I like the XE but XL got a better camera and One S got AMOLED and a bigger memory..haist the Corporate mind...

Desire S vs Sensation XL

based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.

I know mate.
I thought of that quite a while ago...
Shame on HTC
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Hopefully people like us will protest and perhaps the miracle of "HTC desire gingerbread" will happen again

freedompie said:
based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Yes pal, HTC should learn from their own journey!
Because of our DS that's why HTC became the fast company on 2011, so they should listen to their fan's voice.
I would suggest to HTC's guys out at the top level to consider the ICS plan to DS.

enigmaamit said:
I thought the sensation xl had a 1.5 Ghz Scorpion processor in contrast to our 1ghz Snapdragon... what makes you think the "cpu and everything" is same as the desire s?
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Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.

djsubtronic said:
Snapdragon is the chipset, Scorpion is the CPU. Both phones have the same chipset, the XL is simply clocked higher, and the DS can easily run stable at 1.5 GHz.
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Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
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enigmaamit said:
Alright... that's nice to know.
So you mean that HTC just took the desire s chipset and decided to overclock it and call it 1.5Ghz? I'm not questioning your knowledge, just trying to increase mine!
Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
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It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.

djsubtronic said:
It's the way CPU manufacturing works. The frequency doesn't matter. For example Intel Core 2 Duo "merom" chip, whether it's 2 Ghz or 2.8 Ghz, the chip is the same but due to the way they are manufactured, there may be small physical differences, which means some can reach 2.8 Ghz without a problem whereas others only reach 2.2 Ghz.
That's why some people with the exact same CPU are able to overclock higher than others, they just got a slightly 'better' chip.
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So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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enigmaamit said:
So there are physical differences? Actual manufacturing differences that translate into different real world performance ...? And they make some processors more capable than others from the same family right? That's all I wanted to know. Thanks.
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Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
Cheers

Compared to the specs , the Sensation XL is insanely priced !!!
Samsung's Galaxy Note is cheaper as compared to the Sensation XL....

lowveld said:
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
Cheers
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Thanks buddy.
Had a hunch HTC wouldn't just OC the Desire chipset and sell it as a 1.5 gig CPU. Can't be that simple. Kind of you to explain it clearly. Just came out of the theater and was about to pound google and wikipedia for further information, when i saw your post. Saved me some time for other mischief on xda!!

freedompie said:
based on gsmarena the desire s and sensation xl has the same cpu and everything. The only difference is that the sensation xl has a better camera and a larger screen. Why is the sensation xl getting ics but not us. Seems kinda selfish on htc's part for just updating new phones and not our sorta getting old phone.
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I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon

sagarda7 said:
I think chipset may be main cause. Sensation xl has Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon where desire s Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon
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Incorrect. 8260 is dual core
Both Desire S and XL have 8255 CPU.
But the XL is 8255T.
8255T stands for a batch of CPU's that have been extensively tested to withstand higher clockspeeds .
hence this is why our phones are very capable at OC.
So there are still the same
Source: HTC and Qualcomm themselves via emails. (from other XDA members etc)
I was interested in this too, so I did my research.
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lowveld said:
Chips within a family are all made with the same manufacturing process. You then test them and separate the better performers, and label them differently. So they have the same chip, but in the sensation, Qualcomm guarantees stable operation at 1.5GHz. The same is not true for the cpus used in the desire S.
Saying that the Desire S can easily run at 1.5GHz is misleading. Some may, many may not. And the testing is way more exhaustive than simple clock frequency.
Another thing you must understand is the concept of stability. If you have a chip that can run at 1.5GHz, and crashes once every 2 weeks, it would be rejected for the sensation. Different customers will have different quality constraints, it's all a deal with the chip manufacturers, you buy what you want.
This topic is much more complex than this. For reference, I worked 3 years in test engineering of dram chips, the concept was exactly the same.
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Hi lowveld,
Is it possible to port camera driver from sensation xl to desire s for ICS? Because endymion has beats audio.

NO! Please do some research before talking. The sensation XL doesn't even have a proper working ICS build let alone have a working camera
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I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it

shrome99 said:
I am SHOCKED. I thought it had a different processor altogether, not the same thing, just OC'd. That would explain the huge preference of XL ROMs over the regular sensation, that would be easier to port
The processor is different, but only slightly. There isn't much difference between the 8255 and 8255T. The main difference is in battery, DS has 1450 mAH and Sensation XL has 1600 mAH. Higher clock speed = More battery drain
HTC is really bad with updates, our phone was the first HTC Gingerbread device, and it won't get ICS. It's not even a year old yet Specially when a similar device gets it
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I know I'm appalled my HTC
I really do hope we are the second wave of devices to get announced with ICS although that seems unlikely
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But I notice this to, I overclocked DS to 1.4 in ics cm9 and it works fluidly. But there can say why we don't get sense 3.5 and ics! HTC fault
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Guys do you think it will be possible to port ics once xl gets ics...waiting for ics Rom for xl
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HTC One X bugs

Any comments on HTC's flagship compared to Sensation with ICS. I wonder if Sense 4.0 ROMs have this bugs as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582151

I will buy OneX in december in this case when HTC will correct all issues. Seems our ics update is quite good

Bug #1 Its mofo huge, you couldn't sit down to save your life when its in your pocket.
Bug #2 its quad core, super inefficient with poor battery life.
Bug #3 has no microsd card and limits to only 16gb, lots of us have trunk loads of music, games, photos and other essentials we would like to easily store.
Bug #4 Did i mention how big it was ??.

DANOFDANGER said:
Bug #1 Its mofo huge, you couldn't sit down to save your life when its in your pocket.
Bug #2 its quad core, super inefficient with poor battery life.
Bug #3 has no microsd card and limits to only 16gb, lots of us have trunk loads of music, games, photos and other essentials we would like to easily store.
Bug #4 Did i mention how big it was ??.
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Ill aggree the no sd card is ****e. but i thought it came with 32gb, and the one s had 16gb??

DANOFDANGER said:
Bug #1 Its mofo huge, you couldn't sit down to save your life when its in your pocket.
Bug #2 its quad core, super inefficient with poor battery life.
Bug #3 has no microsd card and limits to only 16gb, lots of us have trunk loads of music, games, photos and other essentials we would like to easily store.
Bug #4 Did i mention how big it was ??.
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Bug 2 is debatable since there is that other fifth core that's used when the phone is idle. The 4 cores only come alive when needed.
Although, reviews do say battery life isn't great.

It has a crap battery life and you can't even change the battery.
And don't get me started on no SD card.
I have just returned from the shop about to buy the S when I discover that there is no room for an SD card. Why have HTC Watch when there is no space on the phone to store the Fing films.
A real step backwards in development and a step closer to an Apple clone oh dear I think I may seriously have just stopped being an HTC customer. I have been with them since the HD but if this is the direction I'm going to have to find a different company because this is the wrong direction for me.
I carry 2 spare batteries for my phone so I can watch movies etc on the move but you can't do that with a phone that doesn't allow you to remove the battery.
I'm really gutted right now I didn't even check for SD slot because I didn't think in this day and age anyone (except Apple) would not include one.

There has been reports that speaker sounds get crappy when playing non tegra optimized games.
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I think since this is the first time HTC to ever use a tegra (non qualcomm chip for their modern smartphobe lineup). They messed up with it.
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guys, tegra 3 has amazing battery life. It uses the companion core while listening to music and watching videos. It only uses the cores when needed. I've been using the transformer prime since release and the battery life us out of control. If you peg all four cores at 100% then sure it will die quicker. Also for medium tasks it splits the load across cores to keep them at a lower frequency and voltage. Real life usage is much different than benchmarks.
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peacekeeper05 said:
I think since this is the first time HTC to ever use a tegra (non qualcomm chip for their modern smartphobe lineup). They messed up with it.
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Well they messed up with our qualcomm s3 on the sensation too
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HTC needs to take some notes from apple...
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right. Imagine having an iPhone that allows you the freedom of an android phone!
Matt

Iphone is ok,but unless they put 4,3" screen,changeable battery,expandable memory and better UI they are out of my option.
This things is must have for me,and i think that most of you thinks same.

Picked this up on a Google+ thread. Anybody heard anything about this.....
Surely not the same as the Sensation issue - " I love mine. Easily the best phone I've ever used- except for the dust that's trapped underneath the screen" ????
And can you explain " Shame about the 2.8GB of space for apps. Much prefer how it is on the nexus with the full amount for whatever you want. That was what put me off buying the one x when I went into the store today." ???

For anyone in America there is the HTC EVO 4g LTE. It had an sd slot and the s4 krait.
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