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Sensation Special Edition

Couldn't see this posted anywhere else.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...cial-edition-with-beats-technology-exclusive/
If this is true - more powerful battery was the eye-catcher for me
maybe it will hit all markets?

It's gone cost more to with beats audio speakers and earbuds.
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NardVa said:
It's gone cost more to with beats audio speakers and earbuds.
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Yeah, and it's basically a minor refresh to the Sensation. I wish they had done more.

wasn't the sensation supposed to have nfc support in a q3 re-release too?

dazz29 said:
Couldn't see this posted anywhere else.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...cial-edition-with-beats-technology-exclusive/
If this is true - more powerful battery was the eye-catcher for me
maybe it will hit all markets?
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That's what caught my eye too. you beat me to posting it though.

My thoughts are they put the bigger battery to overclock the phone to 1.5. However i believe it is the same hardware inside. Can someone confirm the Processor?

Knucklessg1 said:
My thoughts are they put the bigger battery to overclock the phone to 1.5. However i believe it is the same hardware inside. Can someone confirm the Processor?
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Actually the processor is a native 1.5 but HTC downclocked it to 1.2 (I would presume due to battery life concerns). With a larger battery they can now bring the clock speed up to where it is designed to run.

What caught my eye was, well the main feature of the article: the audio. Will HTC finally manage to make a passable speakerphone?

Yep the CPU listed is the same one that is in the current Sensation (Qualcomm 8260).

jivemaster said:
Yep the CPU listed is the same one that is in the current Sensation (Qualcomm 8260).
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Its just a ploy to sell headphones to people...I wouldnt be one bit surprised to learn that our phones are exactly the same and that HTC has the "upgrades" all hidden from us. That, or the specs are wrong...
I mean, why make another so similar and so soon?
Matt

Well... it would have been nice if we have 4GB memory on board.
Hopefully the new battery would fit into our sensations.

I can't believe how fooled some people have been. If you guys actually read the article and look at that details sheet, it's pretty clear that they only mention Beats Audio headphones and nothing about onboard audio actually being improved. I would bet a lot of money that it has the stock speaker, and that the only "Beats" part of the package is the headphones.
"Multimedia super phone, now with beats headsets to enhance your music experience."
"Beats in-ear headset in-box for superior acoustic performance, making sure you get an uncompromised multimedia experience. Also comes with remote control so you don't need to take your phone out of your pocket to adjust."
"High-fidelity audio experience -- the phone is fine tuned to work with the Beats headset to automatically optimize sound quality."
Noticing a pattern? Any time it describes audio, it only describes the headset. The only time it describes the actual phone in relation to audio, it's to note that the phone is "fine tuned" to work with the headset. Nothing about onboard audio or if the crappy stock speaker is improved.
Just wanted to point this out because I feel that just because people hear "Beats Audio" they instantly assume onboard sound is Beats, when the sad truth may be that they're just pairing the phone with Beats headphones (and know that by marketing it as a Beats special edition or something along those lines people will think the onboard audio is improved).

Do you think we will be able to get the battery from the special edition, flash the rom and have our processors clocked @ 1.5Ghz?

lokhor said:
Do you think we will be able to get the battery from the special edition, flash the rom and have our processors clocked @ 1.5Ghz?
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You can already buy a 1700 mah battery that fits in your case and overclock your Cpu to 1500.
Lame "refresh".
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lokhor said:
Do you think we will be able to get the battery from the special edition, flash the rom and have our processors clocked @ 1.5Ghz?
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Apparently the special edition is supposed to be a bit thicker to fit the battery. So you probably can get the battery if you also get the thicker battery cover. But who cares anyway since we can get the Chichitec or Anker batteries that are 1900mAh (whether or not you think they get the full 1900mAh, tests have shown they at least get 1730mAh). We can't yet overclock (I'm talking true dual-core support overclocking) properly, but we should be able to soon. So basically, we can make our normal Sensation's into these special editions by getting a higher capacity battery, getting nice headphones, and overclocking once it's available (the only thing we can't match is the internal storage bump). Hardly a special edition if by adding accessories and mods to your standard edition you can make it essentially equivalent.

Man that's some straight up bull**** for real..
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runderekrun said:
You can already buy a 1700 mah battery that fits in your case and overclock your Cpu to 1500.
Lame "refresh".
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The current OC kernels don't properly overclock both cores.

This reminds me of the MyTouch Fender Edition. Same phone, different case, $200 more.
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lokhor said:
The current OC kernels don't properly overclock both cores.
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Ahh well I'm sure they'll figure it out by the time this special edition comes out.
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jparity said:
Well... it would have been nice if we have 4GB memory on board.
Hopefully the new battery would fit into our sensations.
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The battery 1730mA is the same as the evo 3d... AND YES IT FIT... IM USING IT RIGHT NOW
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict i've been sober for 1 month now ='(

HTC Holiday is actually HTC Waikiki (At&t test phone for LTE)

Hello Everyone,
I work for Ericsson and these days we are working on LTE testing for At&t. They have provided us with a HTC Device called "HTC Waikiki". I think its the phone which at&t will later release by the name of HTC Holiday.
it has a 1.2 ghz dual core processor, I gb ram, 8mp back camera, 1.3 mp front camera and 4.5 inch qHD display.
Following are some of the pics which i was able to capture for it. I have also attached the pic for the kernal and radio used by the device for that LTE speeds. If we can use that to boost up speeds on our phones (i.e. inspire 4g for me)
Or if you guys require me to check some specific things on it, i can do that too.

Is there any word on a release date?
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Early rumors were for 1.5ghz dual procs, but I'll take anything right now.
AT&T in Austin gets LTE next month.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Too bad ICS isn't in the screenshots.

Been holding out for this phone for months. Any word on battery life?

The Battery life is Awesome on it. its a huge battery in there. Ill confirm you with the actual specs by tomorrow.

umairdbest.18 said:
The Battery life is Awesome on it. its a huge battery in there. Ill confirm you with the actual specs by tomorrow.
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Thank you. Any information you can provide on this device will be of great help.

Ah, there it is. :O
For the unanswerable questions:
Is HTC Waikiki going to be the official name? Will it be released around November? Will it only be released in LTE markets? How much will it cost?
For the real questions:
Does it have support for HDMI out? How is the gaming? Is there lag or is it butter smooth in the menus, browser? Can you run some quadrant and linpack benchmarks? I thought the device had 1.5GHz processor! :O
Sorry for the bugging you, mate! I'm just so excited.

Can you check Settings/About Phone and see if there is any mention about NFC? And also check Settings/Wireless&Networks for NFC.
Thanks!
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thank you so much

Well we now know that the HTC Holiday/Raider/Waikiki is going to be the HTC Vivid on AT&T. I'd still like to know if it has NFC.

galfert said:
Well we now know that the HTC Holiday/Raider/Waikiki is going to be the HTC Vivid on AT&T. I'd still like to know if it has NFC.
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I can confirm this also.

Apatche69 said:
I can confirm this also.
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I suppose you are confirming that the phone will be called HTC Vivid. Thanks for confirming.
I still would like to know if the HTC Vivid has NFC support. If anyone has access to this phone please check Settings > Wireless & Networks to see if NFC is listed. Thanks.

I'm also looking for some sort of information about the Vivid and NFC. Any news?

bjg222 said:
I'm also looking for some sort of information about the Vivid and NFC. Any news?
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I went into the att store today to take a look at it but the clerk would not let me turn it on... I'll wait until Costco gets the phone but from what I have been reading it looks like the device does not have NFC. Ill check in again if I can find out anything else
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That's a negative for NFC unfortunately. Or at least nothing software-wise points to it. Confirmed on my own Vivid I picked up today.

HTC Sense 5 coming

HTC will have a major flagship device hitting Verizon shelves in the fall. It’s said to feature a whopping 5-inch 1080p HD display (a non-PenTile screen), a new chipset that includes a quad-core Krait CPU and an Adreno 320 GPU, HTC Sense 5 and a Scribe pen. Yes, HTC is launching a Galaxy Note competitor.
Details here: http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/26/verizons-summer-fall-2012-smartphone-roadmap/

Nice, I hope we get official Sense 4 by then!

You lost me at 5 inch screen.
This is supposed to be a phone. Something I keep in my pocket comfortably.
The 4.3" screen on the Sensation is pushing the upper limits of what is practical to be carrying around all day every day.

oommmgggg 5" screens are so retarded.

The article is so vague and cloudy that you can stick through it with a finger. Sense 5 four months after Sense 4? In a company whose main asset is the software layer? Sure, sure.

don't bother listening to BGR they just post whatever pops up in their inbox to get pageviews.

k0zmic said:
Nice, I hope we get official Sense 4 by then!
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lol I agree. And please HTC, allow the battery to be removed on this new device along with allowing us to upgrade the amount of memory. The fact that I cannot do this with the upcoming ONE-X means that I have no interest in that phone (even though I'm tempted by the 4.7 inch screen size).

mojosingle said:
lol I agree. And please HTC, allow the battery to be removed on this new device along with allowing us to upgrade the amount of memory. The fact that I cannot do this with the upcoming ONE-X means that I have no interest in that phone (even though I'm tempted by the 4.7 inch screen size).
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Sign that!

mojosingle said:
lol I agree. And please HTC, allow the battery to be removed on this new device along with allowing us to upgrade the amount of memory. The fact that I cannot do this with the upcoming ONE-X means that I have no interest in that phone (even though I'm tempted by the 4.7 inch screen size).
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+ 1 here..
and thanks for pointing that out: I just lost all the interest I had on the One X due to the not-removable battery!!
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BGR is notorious for posting things that run by them without investigating it first. I have seen many a story turn out to be completely false so take this with a grain of salt.

mojosingle said:
lol I agree. And please HTC, allow the battery to be removed on this new device along with allowing us to upgrade the amount of memory. The fact that I cannot do this with the upcoming ONE-X means that I have no interest in that phone (even though I'm tempted by the 4.7 inch screen size).
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+100 If it has no SD card slot for upgradeable memory I have no interest in it no matter if it is still phone or a tablet. No removable battery I have come to realize I can deal with.

+1000000 for me . Ive lost interest on 1-X when i knew that battery is non-removable by user. So its really a big X for me.

mojosingle said:
lol I agree. And please HTC, allow the battery to be removed on this new device along with allowing us to upgrade the amount of memory. The fact that I cannot do this with the upcoming ONE-X means that I have no interest in that phone (even though I'm tempted by the 4.7 inch screen size).
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+1 .... Thats such a deal breaker for me... I love upgrading memory and having better aftermarket battery... I guess Im going to have to wait for Galaxy S3
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Come on people, don't get so serious bout this topic if you get pissed bout just ignore it. And don't just downrate my rom when you are not using it. If you have problem you can pm me, I'm welcome to your hard feelings. *peace*
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T-Macgnolia said:
+100 If it has no SD card slot for upgradeable memory I have no interest in it no matter if it is still phone or a tablet. No removable battery I have come to realize I can deal with.
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I agree with this, when I went to the ICS ROMs I got about a 25-30% battery improvement, making it unnecessary to buy a larger battery. The lack of an SD (or XD!) slot is the killer for me. They are not going to put enough "virtual SD" memory in the phone to satisfy me, and I am not into major cloud storage. They are not going to pay my internet bill or put in more damned towers so I can get H+ to sync 32+ gigs of data, and I want my data on my system.
As for Sense 5, meh. They will go through 4.1 and then probably 4.5, 4.6, then maybe 5.0.

hopefully sense 5 will be stripped down even more

PsicheAlCubo said:
+ 1 here..
and thanks for pointing that out: I just lost all the interest I had on the One X due to the not-removable battery!!
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I would say HTC ONE S =P(4.3" aka ~5.15" total size). Since we are all sensation owners.
Ya non-removable battery and no mircoSD is a no no.
Even the S3 which is just as slim as Tue One X has SD & removable battery.
Perhaps next series would have what ONe series is lacking
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LOLOLOLOL BGR is the source? Guys, its fake.

darkmantra said:
+1000000 for me . Ive lost interest on 1-X when i knew that battery is non-removable by user. So its really a big X for me.
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This and no removable mSD card... I'm already thinking of taking a look at Samsung's offering...

dgenx210 said:
This and no removable mSD card... I'm already thinking of taking a look at Samsung's offering...
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This. The sealed case makes this phone garbage.
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Telus will get the ICS on the DHD

Although the Inspire 4G will not get its own version of ICS it is looking like the Telus Desire Hd is expecting the update on July 25th. Personally I would rather have a debranded Telus ROM than an ATT ROM any day. And for those that don't know, the Inspire 4G and Telus DHD are physically the same phone.
http://www.telusmobility.com/pv_obj...BB6E817390696B42F40200/filename/DOU_May31.pdf
Sorry if this has been mentioned but I don't recall anyone mentioning if Telus was going to get the update.

What? The dhd is getting ICS????
Lmao...yeah its been mentioned around here way to many times really.
"I love my Springfield XD40"

After a good argument by the OP, I will re-open the thread and see how it progresses.
Keep in mind, the DHD has it's own thread. And if this turns into a DHD specific thread, I will delete it. Post your comments in the correct forum.

Thanks MD. As many do and SOME do not know there is a big difference between the European Desire HD forum and what the Telus Desire HD has to offer. This is the appropriate forum. A Telus Desire HD ROM means a ROM that will work 100% on the Inspire without need for porting or modification.
Just came across this on another XDA section about a different phone where it was gladly welcomed. Again this IS NOT just another DHD getting ICS thread.

Telus based ICS ROMs will be the way to go. If you are S-OFF, for ICS ROMs I strongly advise flashing the Telus ICS radio, and to flash the appropriate RIL to go with it every time you flash a new ROM.

Agoattamer said:
Although the Inspire 4G will not get its own version of ICS it is looking like the Telus Desire Hd is expecting the update on July 25th. Personally I would rather have a debranded Telus ROM than an ATT ROM any day. And for those that don't know, the Inspire 4G and Telus DHD are physically the same phone.
Sorry if this has been mentioned but I don't recall anyone mentioning if Telus was going to get the update.
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I had no idea that the Inspire and Telus were the same phone. Thanks

JCupp said:
I had no idea that the Inspire and Telus were the same phone. Thanks
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They aren't, but the only difference is the amount of RAM.

pazzo02 said:
They aren't, but the only difference is the amount of RAM.
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No, all three variants have the same ram
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pazzo02 said:
They aren't, but the only difference is the amount of RAM.
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They are and they do have the same RAM and storage memory.

Agoattamer said:
They are and they do have the same RAM and storage memory.
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Well then the specs lie.

pazzo02 said:
Well then the specs lie.
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What specs lie? If you are discussing the storage memory then this has been discussed over 100 times on this forum literally. The 4GB is ATT's sales gimmick white lie. Both have 4GB before OS install and just over 1GB of user storage memory after install. Both have 768MB RAM. Actually the European DHD has the same storage specs and RAM also.
What specs are you looking at?

Agoattamer said:
What specs lie? If you are discussing the storage memory then this has been discussed over 100 times on this forum literally. The 4GB is ATT's sales gimmick white lie. Both have 4GB before OS install and just over 1GB of user storage memory after install. Both have 768MB RAM. Actually the European DHD has the same storage specs and RAM also.
What specs are you looking at?
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The official specs on HTC's site state that the Inspire has 4GB and the DesireHD has 1.5GB. So does the manufacturer not even know what they put in their phone? I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just wondering why many people are contradicting what the manufacturer says.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-inspire-4g-att/
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/desirehd-telus#tech-specs

pazzo02 said:
The official specs on HTC's site state that the Inspire has 4GB and the DesireHD has 1.5GB. So does the manufacturer not even know what they put in their phone? I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just wondering why many people are contradicting what the manufacturer says.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-inspire-4g-att/
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/desirehd-telus#tech-specs
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God this discussion gets old. BOTH have a 4GB storage space on there. This leaves both with ~1.5GB of user space left which ATT even takes up space. It is an interpretation problem with the specs. You can argue as much as you want, this is what is physically inside both phones when you disassemble them. 4GB before and ~1.5GB after, those two web pages were probably written by a different engineer when given to the website manager.
Get a cheap sd card and dont worry about it lol

It's AT&Ts doing, really. Look at the pagez for the Vivid and One X. The Vivid is said to have 16GB. That is true, however, really when you open the box and turn it on you have 3.81GB for apps, and 8.83GB for phone storage, totalling 12.64GB. The rest is taken up by Android and various preinstalled bloatware. The One X is setup very similarly. What is listed and what you have out of the box are different, but AT&T wants them listed at their maximum storage capacity, and not real world capacity. They do it to their other phones as well, whether it be a Samsung, HTC, or Motorola, etc. It is not related to manufacturer preference, but carrier preference.
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Good god, will the unwashed masses please stop saying specs lie when they have no clue what they are talking about? Taking information from one source, particularly on the Internet, and instantly branding it as fact is folly of the highest degree. Move for permaban due to koolaid rage.
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Lmao....lmao
"I love my Springfield XD40"

also, why argue about the specs of an old phone? if youre new to the inspire, than you paid 97 cents for one with a contract, so disputing over 1.5g and 4gb for something you almost got for free...
wonder how some of these people would react to a car dealership if they are upset about mislabeled memory

lmao
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Ok guys this has been beat to death. We all know what the Inspire has for memory and we all know how it is portrayed by att.
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[Q] How popular is/was the Sensation ? Alternatives ?

As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
HTC Sensation ? Any thoughts on the popularity of this or similar HTCs ?
I'm thinking I should get a recent HTC phone with a Broadcom FM/combo chip.
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When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
Thoughts ? Thanks !

mikereidis said:
As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
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Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.

The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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malybru said:
Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.
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Thanks. I try to estimate popularity by numbers of forum posts or views.
"Plain" Sensation seems pretty good, but Evo 3D seems even higher, especially for the Sprint CDMA version.
Always seems to be this issue of variants, CDMA/GSM and XE/XL etc. which can make for a whole different phone development wise.

tessut said:
The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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Germany is my best market, per capita.
But unfortunately my "post count" check on the forums isn't anywhere near comparable.
Of course it came out later (right?) but I'm sure total numbers are still much higher.
And I prefer getting older phones that are cheaper on EBay.
Android "fragmentation" affects me greatly, due to the low level hardware specific requirements. So I have 15 different devices in my "test fleet" now. And I'm trying to be very picky when it comes to additions, as it's difficult to manage so many.