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Sprint possibly to acquire T-MoUS

So I read this article today.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/03/08/report-sprint-t-mobile-usa-talk-tie/#
I really have no opinion on the matter, but I am curious what that would mean for all of us.

Hmm, very interesting indeed. If this happens, I'd imagine all existing TMO customers would automatically become a customer of the new merged entity. Maybe they'd give the option to opt out of contract early with no fees? Idk...

Yeah that's what I was thinking. It would almost surely alter the contract, in which case they would have to offer customer's to cut the cord, no charge.
Pretty sure that was the case when Sprint acquired Nextel as well.

IIRC contracts and technologies did not change at the time of the 2004 merger. They permitted customers to switch to the other "side" at will, then combined into a single set of plan offerings in 2005. They still offer Nextel iDEN technology with some handset products.
I was once a Sprint CDMA customer, but left them in 2002 or 2003 to go with T-Mobile and GSM, so I didn't live through the merger as a customer myself.

WHAT!
Sprint has a good reputation around here but T-Mobile by far is the better company IMO... A merger between these two companies is weird... Even though i think in the pass this was talked about before...
If this happens Sprint would oviously be the company coming out and T-Mobile just being pushed to the back of the company untill there are few customers left and they would shut it down
How would sprint befite from this? Besides customer merging over... Even thought a fair amount would end their contract then go with sprint

I hate sprint so ugh lol
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I hate sprint so ugh lol
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gurl, yoo sew krayzee.

T-Mobile might be number 4 in terms of number of customers
but Sprint is bringing up the rear when it comes to the 4G
coverage area an number of 4G phones.
I'm not a Sprint fan at all.
I hope it doesn't happen.

So, how does a CDMA company merge with a GSM company and still grow both technologies? My guess is that one has to be dropped eventually. Which one will it be?

PuffDaddy_d said:
So, how does a CDMA company merge with a GSM company and still grow both technologies? My guess is that one has to be dropped eventually. Which one will it be?
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I'm guessing tmobiles will drop cuz if sprint is looking for 4g then it should turn to T-Mobile cuz H+ isn't offically considered 4g
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You know I just dropped that crap called sprint for tmobile. I hope this doesn't happen
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Hope it don't happen I been a happy T-Mobile customer for over 10 years and I see nothing but problems with people that have sprint
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julianmgn said:
I'm guessing tmobiles will drop cuz if sprint is looking for 4g then it should turn to T-Mobile cuz H+ isn't offically considered 4g
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Yes it is. It was made an official 4G technology a while ago.
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ELBdelorean said:
Yes it is. It was made an official 4G technology a while ago.
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Look up what 4g speed actually is defined as. I believe its around 100 mbps. No where near what we can get. It's like 3.5 g
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Cdma would be dropped since sprint is most likely moving to Lte. Keeping hspa+ and moving from wiimax would be sprints best decision at least we would have truly unlimited data. Let's hope carriers don't become full dominant with lte since they have full control of it. I don't want to be charged for youtube or facebook.
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paczek said:
Look up what 4g speed actually is defined as. I believe its around 100 mbps. No where near what we can get. It's like 3.5 g
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This used to be correct, but the definitions for what is considered "4G" have changed after it was recognized that HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all technologies that are delivering significantly faster speeds and an enhanced user experience when compared to 3G; so, HSPA+ is technically considered an official 4G technology.
There would be ups and downs to a Sprint- T-Mobile merger. I all depends on how it is executed.
T-Mobile NEEDS more spectrum - Sprint/Nextel has a lot of it. From a technology standpoint it used to seem impossible to merge the companies - After all sprint already has a CDMA & iDen network, plus WiMax, but T-Mobile operates off of GSM/UMTS technology.
The reason this speculation is different now is due to the fact that both companies have "loosely" discussed moving to LTE "eventually" and have been apprehensive about comitting to it. If they pair up, then migrate to LTE, it will allow the networks to be on the same playing field (as well as put the combined company in a competitive position against AT&T/Verizon).
As much as I hate to say it, this is very possible (maybe even probable) but would take a lonnnggg time to be a reality.

I dont see why so many people are complaining. With the merging of the two companies, we get better coverage and faster 4G speeds and much more phones will be developed for us. Tmobile was lacking as far as great smartphones before the glacier and g2. Were just now coming around.
So stop complaining, I'm actually excited if this happens.
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dbiggss said:
This used to be correct, but the definitions for what is considered "4G" have changed after it was recognized that HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all technologies that are delivering significantly faster speeds and an enhanced user experience when compared to 3G; so, HSPA+ is technically considered an official 4G technology.
There would be ups and downs to a Sprint- T-Mobile merger. I all depends on how it is executed.
T-Mobile NEEDS more spectrum - Sprint/Nextel has a lot of it. From a technology standpoint it used to seem impossible to merge the companies - After all sprint already has a CDMA & iDen network, plus WiMax, but T-Mobile operates off of GSM/UMTS technology.
The reason this speculation is different now is due to the fact that both companies have "loosely" discussed moving to LTE "eventually" and have been apprehensive about comitting to it. If they pair up, then migrate to LTE, it will allow the networks to be on the same playing field (as well as put the combined company in a competitive position against AT&T/Verizon).
As much as I hate to say it, this is very possible (maybe even probable) but would take a lonnnggg time to be a reality.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/20/hspa-lte-and-wimax-now-officially-called-4g/
^^ Article that says that it will be consider officilly 4G
I agree.. It not something that would happen overnight or for that matter a year or so... Sure the names and prices and everything in between wont take long but merging the two companies into a single Wireless technology would take years...
But in the end sprint would have a huge wireless footprint.. GSM/UMTS with CDMA/WiMax and eventually LTE
If Sprint decides (if it merges) to continue supporting those frequencies.. it will have if not the biggest wide variety of phones

I only care if the pricing of data plan will change.

Jealous of Sprint new EVO?

Okay so i just left Sprint for Verizon to get the thunderbolt and was royally pissed off lol, but now i'm not. Okay, so i been on the fence contemplating going back to Sprint and decided not to. When i had my EVO (which i still do waiting to sell it), the support it got was amazing, but my 3g on it was sub-par. I live in New York, and i was seriously getting horrid connection. I even thought about all the graphic power the new one is getting, but then i said to myself "half the games in the market don't even use all that power", so isn't it redundant to desire such a powerful phone with so many games work fine on the thunderbolt? I mean, i sound like i'm trying to justify my switch, but just thinking out loud for anyone who feels the same as me. And what up with all the hate on the thunderbolt by Evo users? I thought the Android community was suppose to be together, some of them sound like whining Apple fanbois.

That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.

I am not jealous of the new EVO. The reason is two. First I have a moto xoom, so I have a powerful device with a screen big enough to enjoy the power. Second, like you said, is that Sprint is crap. I would have said the opposite a week ago, but I would have been in denial .
The EVO was better than the iPhone 2g/3g/3gs' and Sprint was better than AT&T that I had had for the 3 years prior. As such I was happy with the phone, which was somewhat crippled by the sprint network. The biggest thing I hated about Sprint, was they were INCONSISTENT. Didn't matter if it was peak or off-peak hours everytime I grabbed the phone I had no way of knowing if it would give me an efficient or inefficient experience. In the car I used a Wilson Sleek signal booster which made things like streaming over Pandora or Slacker consistent, but it's a cradle so its not idea for much more than that.
The thunderbird thus far has proven to be a better phone than the old EVO, but more importantly it seems to have hardware that works well on the network. Anyone with an EVO even in a strong 4G area can attest to the 30+ seconds it takes to get a 4G connection, and how it never seemed to come back if the connection in the area was less than idea. The one time so far that my EVO went to 3G, it went back to 4G almost immediately. I live in North Las Vegas, but my part of town has not been the Boonies for 20 years.
In summation. Even if Sprint "does it again" and releases a super friggin awesome phone, as the EVO was, it wont make up for their less than ideal network. Sprint is not bad per se, they just aren't great.

ipawd1 said:
That's how it happens. It's called "latest technology". I argued with my girlfriends mom for about an hour.....
about why Apple aint ****.
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Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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theoneownz said:
Lol
There is always going to ne something better on the horizon that's I upgrade every 6 months or so ;op
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Well of course i know that, just bummed as soon as i jumped ship they release this haha. The obvious, of course, is that we will get something similar also, but just wanted to speak my mind for those who feel like me. I focused more on the specs in the original post, but i was also curious why almost every website i got on about the thunderbolt you have some uptight mad Evo user bashing it, quite comical and sad at the same time.
@setite the 4g on sprint was horrid, especially indoors.

I too left Sprint (of 5 plus years) for the TB... I am jealous of the Sprint's new EVO, but not their 2.5 GHz WIMAX.. If hey get their 800MHz frequency up and running with LTE or even move WIMAX there or maybe even WIMAX 2, then I shall return

sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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Zerotwistknife7 said:
sprint is ****, friend has an evo, we just compared phones and speeds... no competition with their "4G" if they can even call it that
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lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
Comment by Richard Yarrell March 19, 2011 at 1:43 am :
This makes the verizon thunderbolt look like a STEP CHILD… Verizon wanted to have a hand me down product they got it. Everyone knows htc doesn’t do business with Verizon never and they got exactly what they wanted last year’s evo but the funny part is our current 10month old htc evo 4g is still better there isn’t even a toggle 4g switch on there device it just keeps runing and too top it off there bootloader is locked another verizon trick. Evo owners on sprint REJOICE we have truly a WINNER in every way our 2011 lineup has all 4g devices and all the newly announced devices are running 2.3.3ginerbread straight out the box not 2.2 froyo like the thunderbolt and all other verizon products… Welcome our new KING OF ANDROID http://www.androidcentral.com/
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I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA

i love how it says the bootloader is locked when it isn't

asenduk said:
I think that Verizon needs to be closer with HTC or even SAMSUNG , instead of MOTOROLA
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verizon needs to get away from samsung i love my fascinate but samsung is sooooo bad with customer service since officially we are still on 2.1 but thanks to the devs i have froyo

mykenyc said:
lol, look at this and see what i mean:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-view-4g-confirms-sprint-bound-motorola-xoom/
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LOL wow big ego much? it still took them time to root and unlock their phones too...
I doubt it was anywhere as fast as AndIRC did it, first night=root, second night=unlock bootloader/custom recovery
If that's not a record or something, I'd be suprised...

Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.

mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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Amazingly accurate response.

mi7chy said:
Nice hardware is useless when the service is useless. I've been a Sprint customer forever but lately their 3G is useless and 4G coverage is spotty and slower than when it was first rolled out. The HTC Thunderbolt hardware is no comparison to Samsung Epic 4G, mainly AMOLED screen/CPU/GPU performance, but the superior LTE connectivity makes the hardware inferiority a small compromise.
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+1
I will never go back to Sprint ever after they treated me terribly when I complained about getting 1x speeds in the city of Chicago outdoors in an area marked "best indoor 4g coverage" on their map. With Verizon I get 4g anywhere indoors and don't have to stick my head and arm way out the window to get decent data speeds. And on Sprint the decent data speeds are literally 400kbps. see thread "data speeds, wtf?" in the Evo general forum.
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I'm a longtime sprint drone...since nextel I1000 lol
I'm about ready to make the jump. I love my EVO but the data is very spotty, sometimes decent 5-6MB DL but quite often less than 1/2 meg. I live in a 4G city too.
Price is getting closer too. I have 3 smart devices...
Sprint
130- 2 lines everything data 1500
20- extra line
30- 10 per line for smarty
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180 but I get 25% off the 130 for corp discount
150 = Bottom line plus taxes
Red
with my corp discount 18%~
110 2 lines talk/text 1400
10 3rd line
72 3 x24 data packs
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192 + taxes
I'm very close to jumping ship.

Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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LoveisPeace2012 said:
Any carriers service varies by location that is self evident.
Another thing that is self evident is that the new evo is a BEAST!
There's no denying the hardware is amazing
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Yes it is. Just hope we don't have no android civil war ,because it seems that way with certain people.
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Support for upcoming LTE update.

So I'm one of the lucky ones who live in San Antonio and will be getting the true ATT 4G upgrade. Just wondering if the Inspire will be supported.
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Inspire cannot get LTE
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you'll have to wait for the holiday.... htc holiday, that is

Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....

S.Reno9 said:
Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.

It doesn't have an lte radio, nor the software. A lot (not all) att reps have no idea what they are talking about.

donniesd said:
Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
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Yeah I knew the answer before I asked...just wanted to see what kind of response I would get....I even tried to push the issue...asking if they were positive and so on. In one case I got the manager involved, and I believe his exact words were "sir I can assure you, this phone is compatible with all of AT&T's future 4g networks"
I wonder if they actually believe that, or if corporate simply tell them to lie there a$$'s off......!

Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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What. Where did you see this. i wanna lolololol

trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Well sure, if you wanna get in there and solder in a chipset and scare up cobbled drivers, isn't any phone?

Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Two things ...
1) ATT is lying - well sort of. They can get away with it because their definition of 4G is very broad. When they say LTE they actually mean HSDPA.
2) The folks in the store are indoctrinated by the company so they believe the Inspire is LTE as well.
I'd love to be proven wrong but unfortunately the Inspire is H+ only (HSDPA).

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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What part of it not having an lte radio is so hard to understand...it just doeant have one. Look at the specs on htc no where on that page does it say lte, then look at the thunderbolt oh wow under specs it lists lte.... What were you saying about us knowing more then developers? Apparently htc dosent even know their phone is lte capable. Really........
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Pretty sure its impossible. Our snapdragon chips don't have the capability to support true lte. I'm pretty sure the thunderbolts SoC is a little bit different(lte support)

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Well, seeing that Geek Squad told my buddy that Bittorrent caused the demise of his <6 month old hard drive in his PC, I'm not sure how much I'll trust BestBuy's "official" info. kthxbai

alex4lex said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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The Desire HD does not have a front facing camera. The Inspire and DHD are almost exact clones. The only thing different is the logo on the back.

trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Actually, this is the official ATT page for the Inspire 4g.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...re+(TM)+4G*&q_sku=sku5100284#fbid=ZSGfIgw7m3E
If you scroll near the very bottom, Technical Specifications section, lower left corner it says, "4G* - HSPA+/LTE: HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul." No where does it say it is LTE compatible. Also, that little asterisk leads you to this, like someone mentioned earlier, "*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device and compatible data plan. Learn more at att.com/network."

Would be nice if that's possible, but it's not with this phone. But I'll have to wait 2 more years anyways to be able to upgrade again, haha.
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I make a habit of changing my phone every 2 years as a rule. By then maybe AT&T may have their LTE in par with Verizon. It really doesn't matter with my paltry 200mb account anyway, whether I use it with 1 to 2 megabit at a time or 9 to10 megabit at a time.

is 4G worth it?

Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?

jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Wait...and use the money that's obviously burning a hole in your pocket for more prudent things...such as contributing to your 401k...
Nah, but 4g is ok...I see it as a luxury, if you can afford it and you REALLY want it then sure. But whether or not it's worth is is as simple as thinking about how much you really value a few extra seconds between page loads. With bandwith caps, 4g isn't really all that attractive anymore honestly...

jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Something else to think about, just because they launch LTE won't guarantee that they will have the backhaul to make it fast. Most, if not all, of Sprints WiMAX, Verizon's LTE is slower than 3G simply because they don't have the backhaul or capacity yet.
It took T-Mobile 2 more years after launching UMTS to get HSPA+ going. Food for thought.

hmm.....well put...thanks guys. will have a new Sensation tomorrow

With these prices... its not worth it.
$45 1.5 GB
$60 3 GB
$75 6 GB
$90 9 GB

Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.

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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I don't think that was called for.

Definitely not better than EDGE.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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4g has no real standards. It's simply the 4th generation of wireless data.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.

sensation is a solid phone, reminds me of my nexus one that I wish I never traded. Would probably still be using that, instead of the phone path I went through. Pricing of 4g isnt worth it, you can just get internet services at a home. My local carrier is rolling out "4g" and I'm priced for life at $14.99 unlimited text & data. I don't plan on leaving the carrier anytime soon, and my download speeds on average are 3-4mbps, high has been up to 8mbps.

Unless your in a big popular city where they will try to put out the LTE signal and support it I wouldnt worry about it. Everyone I know here (Dallas) on Sprint's 4g and Verizons has sporadic problems with signal and speeds. Its fast when its there but they dont get it much.
T-Mo US's may not be real 4G but they have good coverage (for me) with it and I love the phone so I personally wouldnt wait unless you get some good info on the quality of 4G in your area.

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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I see just the *slightest* overreaction here.
However, to answer the OP's question: Yes, 4G it's worth it to me. Accessing information no longer takes a brutally long time. I have fewer reasons to take a laptop most of to time. I can have long conversations with my girl or family while browsing these forums or the web in general.
I see download speeds anywhere from 3mbps to 11mbps depending on where I am at the time. This is more that fast enough for me to forget that I am not on Wifi. This is what I have always wanted using a smartphone to be like.
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setzer715 said:
What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.
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T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE

HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
LTE is still faster than HSPA+ but it drains your battery. I have been getting amazing HSPA+speeds but its in very limited locations (downtown seattle only). 4G is worth it, be it real or fake its much faster than 3g but i kind of like HSPA+ cuz at least its not such a battery hog like LTE.

jerrylzy said:
T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE
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If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.

setzer715 said:
If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.
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OK,calm down please. If I post wrong in this thread , please forgive me , i didn't look it carefully.Sorry.

r3awak3n said:
HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
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Not relevant to the OP but the ITU actually stated the term 4g may be applied to "LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed."

i DONT reccommend getting rogers 4G, purely for the excessive cost, shakey availability, and the fact that when they do actually launch, its going to be rife with problems...using 3g on my sensation is mroe than fast enough, and really, if you want fast data, just use home internet and access it with logmein from your fone...
i used to be with rogers, but the cost/bandwidth of data just didnt cut it for me...

No 4g, worth even buying the S III or should I wait?

I live in Omaha NE, and we still have yet to actually have 4g access. Anyone in an area without 4g have the Galaxy S III and still recommend it?

I sometimes go in spots where there is only 3g.Coming from my x2, even when only in 3g the s3 is faster and smoother then my old 3g phone, but everything is evidently gonna be 4g so you can't go wrong it's a nice phone.
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dan4877 said:
I live in Omaha NE, and we still have yet to actually have 4g access. Anyone in an area without 4g have the Galaxy S III and still recommend it?
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Well I use to live in a 4G city, Wichita, KS. Now I live in a town with only 3G, and I still love this phone! 4G is awesome, but this phone is still amazing without 4G, 4G is just icing on the cake.
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This is sort of like asking if you should build a gaming PC even though you only have dial up.
Your connection is just one part of the experience. It's up to you how smooth and fast you want everything else to be.

I work in Omaha and it has 4G all over... So does Council Bluffs.
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Of course. What else would you get?
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When you say 4g, do you mean hspa+ or lte?
I live in an area with no lte, I get respectable hspa+ speeds. If you have no hspa or lte, then I find that surprising. I thought at&t set out to cover areas lacking hspa with LTE first. Thats why cities like Philadelphia just got LTE today.
Anyway i recommend getting the s3. Its the best LTE phone out by far and eventually at&t will cover you with LTE.

jefferson9 said:
When you say 4g, do you mean hspa+ or lte?
I live in an area with no lte, I get respectable hspa+ speeds. If you have no hspa or lte, then I find that surprising. I thought at&t set out to cover areas lacking hspa with LTE first. Thats why cities like Philadelphia just got LTE today.
Anyway i recommend getting the s3. Its the best LTE phone out by far and eventually at&t will cover you with LTE.
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You probably should have taken that left at Albuquerque.

i bought me and my wife both the GS3 and live in a 3G only area only work occasionally in a poor 4G area. I came from a Nexus S and wouldn't look back at buying a different phone.

bobloblaw1 said:
You probably should have taken that left at Albuquerque.
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+1
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dan4877 said:
I live in Omaha NE, and we still have yet to actually have 4g access. Anyone in an area without 4g have the Galaxy S III and still recommend it?
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As it has been stated above...4g or no 4g this is (imo) the best phone out there.
I live in a non-4g area and I love the phone. I figure that whatever phone I get is only gonna be 3g (most of the time) so why not buy the best.
Plus it's like a bonus treat when I travel to a city with 4g and I see the little 4g icon pop up...It's like a special gift form the city to me

This phone is a beast, 4G or not. The processor, RAM, screen, functionality, development choices, and style are just a few things that should sway you toward buying this. Wait for what? I doubt anything can be better than the GS3 for another year.

jefferson9 said:
When you say 4g, do you mean hspa+ or lte?
I live in an area with no lte, I get respectable hspa+ speeds. If you have no hspa or lte, then I find that surprising. I thought at&t set out to cover areas lacking hspa with LTE first. Thats why cities like Philadelphia just got LTE today.
Anyway i recommend getting the s3. Its the best LTE phone out by far and eventually at&t will cover you with LTE.
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LTE, I have verizon and was sold the iphone 4s thinking I'd have 4g but the only signal I ever pick up is 3g.

dan4877 said:
LTE, I have verizon and was sold the iphone 4s thinking I'd have 4g but the only signal I ever pick up is 3g.
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You need a better phone or go to other areas of Omaha, I get 4g almost everywhere. 4 bars at home, 5 at work!

loveubuntu said:
.... Wait for what? I doubt anything can be better than the GS3 for another year.
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Well, the iPhone 5 is coming out this next month.... :angel:

dan4877 said:
I live in Omaha NE, and we still have yet to actually have 4g access. Anyone in an area without 4g have the Galaxy S III and still recommend it?
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Not sure what you're talking about. Omaha through Lincoln has great 4g service. At Eppley in Omaha last week, received 20 down and 10mps up on 4g using Speednet app.
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pvcdroid said:
Not sure what you're talking about. Omaha through Lincoln has great 4g service. At Eppley in Omaha last week, received 20 down and 10mps up on 4g using Speednet app.
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He is going on the basis that his iPhone 4s does not get 4g...think about it for a second.....
yeah
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if you have wifi in most areas than I would definitely get the S3. its an awesome device and beats the hell out of my 4S
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hesh.monster said:
He is going on the basis that his iPhone 4s does not get 4g...think about it for a second.....
yeah
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Apple confused the hell out of everyone on the 4S. I frequently talk to people with the iPhoney that think they have 4G service. Also heard of an IPOD nano coming out that is labeled 5G? or something like that. I just wish they would continue to avoid 4G service and dread the day Apple users suck up all the 4G bandwidth.

SGS3 is an awesome phone, whether you are on 3G/4G-LTE it's going to kick your old phone to the curb. The phone is faster so I could possibly pull better speeds even on 3G than your current handset. If you travel at all you'll be 4G/LTE ready and when you finally get updated locally you'll see awesome immediately.
There is also huge support for the SGS3 because of the bootloader getting unlocked a few weeks back and of course because it's just such an awesome phone period.