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ATTs Inspire Page Lists LTE In The Specs!

Go all the way down to the bottom. Right after FOTA it says,HSPA+/LTE. Can you say,false advertising?!? Mistake? NOT....

Yea, even the upcoming Atrix is 3G (HSPA+) only.
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I thought from the conference where they revealed the Atrix and the Inspire they said the Atrix would be compatible with LTE and the Inspire was HSPDA only.
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mikejames07 said:
I thought from the conference where they revealed the Atrix and the Inspire they said the Atrix would be compatible with LTE and the Inspire was HSPDA only.
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Nope. Don't trust the uneducated reps.
http://developer.motorola.com/products/atrix-mb860/
Atrix supports HSDPA and HSUPA connectivity only.
FYI, 3G network is data network stack on top of voice network stack. LTE purely packet based data only network where voice is managed via VoIP. Completely different animal.
As for HSPA+, AT&T is feeding the public a "4G" that is nothing more than 3G that's been tweaked for marginally better performance. Even LTE (and WiMax) are not true 4G and is typically labeled as stopgap 3.9G.

When I bought the Inspire for my wife, the rep said that it would be compatible with ATT's upcoming LTE network. Doesn't matter, my wife won't care anyway.

Yes, compatible with the LTE network as in it will work, but not take advantage of the LTE technology. When reps say things like that, they are misleading customers and not telling the full truth, but only half truths.

Theres a huge amount of disinformation that ATTs employees are told give to customers. Both the Inspire and the Atrix list LTE in the specs. This is false advertising supreme. Its amazing the lies that CS is dishing out. Especially when it come to LTE and retaing your unlimited data plans. Everywhereb people are threatening to drop their service cause theyve been told their unlimites wont be kept. This is just WRONG.

And after having a second look on the page, you're just confused. It says as a CATEGORY of LTE/HSPA+ then next to it says it has HSPA+. The column on the left of the product page is just categories/labels for the spec, when the spec is on the right.

False advertising, yes. But I don't care, at least ATT has respectable Android phones once rooted and minus their sorry unusable bloat. H+ is fast enough for me and 99% of users don't even need 4g. I know we pay good money(some more than others, don't ask ) for these things and expect them to work as advertised but all carriers are the same and there is no true 4g.

Again, it isnt false advertisement. Their site is just designed like ****. The CATEGORY of wireless technology is on the left, with the ACTUAL SPEC on the right. People are getting confused by this it seems.
See screenshot for an example, it only says the phone has HSPA+ as you see on the RIGHT SIDE

JetBlk said:
Again, it isnt false advertisement. Their site is just designed like ****. The CATEGORY of wireless technology is on the left, with the ACTUAL SPEC on the right. People are getting confused by this it seems.
See screenshot for an example, it only says the phone has HSPA+ as you see on the RIGHT SIDE
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Never bothered to look at that. It makes sense. Its fast that's all that matters to me and development on these things is leaps and bounds beyond pretty much anything out there. I'm already running a stable dhd Rom with a TELUS kernel with a slight audio issue and its way faster than stock in all departments.

davwman said:
False advertising, yes. But I don't care, at least ATT has respectable Android phones once rooted and minus their sorry unusable bloat. H+ is fast enough for me and 99% of users don't even need 4g. I know we pay good money(some more than others, don't ask ) for these things and expect them to work as advertised but all carriers are the same and there is no true 4g.
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I can tell you having lived with Evo for 8 months, 3.9G is very useful: Streaming/downloading movies or music is a snap. Apps sync faster, online games sync faster. Web surfing experience is 10x better (even if the WiMax speed is only 3x faster than 3G.)
I typically got 4~7 MB download using WiMax. No, it's not true 4G, but you can't deny the improved user experience of using 3.9G vs 3G.

At&t to acquire t-mobile usa

Who has seen this?
http://www.mobilizeeverything.com/home.php

kirk123 said:
Who has seen this?
http://www.mobilizeeverything.com/home.php
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It just came out http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/20/att-to-acquire-t-mobile-usa/
Crazy ****... I NEVER would have seen that coming :-(
Really bad for the US cellular industry.

I have.
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kirk123 said:
http://www.mobilizeeverything.com/home.php
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Was just about to post this.
I think it will be good for us if AT&T decides to add their frequencies to T-Mobile's towers. The purchase is expected to take a year and I wonder if it will be blocked by the SEC.

Does that mean AT&T wireless can actually get worse, now that they will (supposedly) gobble up t-mobile?

gunnyman said:
Was just about to post this.
I think it will be good for us if AT&T decides to add their frequencies to T-Mobile's towers. The purchase is expected to take a year and I wonder if it will be blocked by the SEC.
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Well in "the old days" I would have seen the SEC letting this go about as far as I can throw it, but after changing the laws to allow comcast to become the mega-carrier they are, they'll let this one through as well.
Very unfortunate given that T-Mobile at least has drive to create a decent product.
I guess the old saying is true, if you can't beat em, buy em, lol

kirk123 said:
Does that mean AT&T wireless can actually get worse, now that they will (supposedly) gobble up t-mobile?
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It can gets LOTS worse, hehe. I worked for T-Mo at corp during the formation through mergers in 2001... it was UGLY.

bella92108 said:
It can gets LOTS worse, hehe. I worked for T-Mo at corp during the formation through mergers in 2001... it was UGLY.
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Wonderful! More dropped calls, YES!! lol

kirk123 said:
Wonderful! More dropped calls, YES!! lol
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In my experience, T-Mo had far LESS than AT&T, tho it's been 5 years since I had T-Mo. With T-Mo, they have so many roaming agreements you can drive across the country and have fairly reliable service the entire way. Not the case with Big Red or Big Mama Blue.

bella92108 said:
In my experience, T-Mo had far LESS than AT&T, tho it's been 5 years since I had T-Mo. With T-Mo, they have so many roaming agreements you can drive across the country and have fairly reliable service the entire way. Not the case with Big Red or Big Mama Blue.
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I know a few people that are stuck with t-mobile. All I hear them complain about, is dropped calls. T-mobile data speeds aren't bad from what I can tell. I think t-mobile has better 4G coverage. Is this true?

kirk123 said:
I know a few people that are stuck with t-mobile. All I hear them complain about, is dropped calls. T-mobile data speeds aren't bad from what I can tell. I think t-mobile has better 4G coverage. Is this true?
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They have about a year head start on HSPA+, but that's about it. No clear direction on LTE tho, so I guess this was written...

Big pink and big blue got hitched! LOL
I'm sure T-mobile customers are jumping for joy after they read this news.

I'm seeing this as being one step closer to getting rid of CDMA.
I wish Cell Phones worked the way they do in Europe. We have too much fragmentation and carrier control in the US.

I have a friend on T-Mobile and he likes the data speeds but the coverage of phone service itself apparently isnt that great all i hear about his how much he complains!!!

Here is some more info from engadget
http://www.engadget.com/photos/atandt-t-mobile-lte-buildout-slides-0/#3984852
Edit: I also read somewhere that it may take a year for this to complete. So no new changes for a while.

NICE!!!!!
I have been to places where there are only tmobile signals! (i did a network search, only tmobile pop up!), but i'm unable to connect cus att wont allow it! i guess this merger will change that!

this means that now after it is complete, we will be able to access t-mobiles hspa+ network with our inspires right? this is great news if we can b/c t-mobiles roll out of hspa+ is far greater than at&t's as of now

Least they will have a larger hspa plus network
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so this is the trick that att will use to increase their 4g network. LOL i guess when they started rolling out the 4g they ment it would be ready NEXT year! LOL

bpodz34 said:
this means that now after it is complete, we will be able to access t-mobiles hspa+ network with our inspires right? this is great news if we can b/c t-mobiles roll out of hspa+ is far greater than at&t's as of now
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they use different frequencies so I imagine hardware on t Mobil towers would need changing.
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Inspire or Sensation?

Per my other post regarding service plans, I was hoping for some feedback from you guys.
A couple weeks ago I renewed my contract and got an Inspire. I'm still within the return window, and heard about the Sensation. Obviously the Sensation is the more powerful phone and would be preferable over the Inspire. And of course, Tmobile's $80 unlimited plan is very attractive when compared to $110 for the same plan features from AT&T.
However there's some rumor going around that the Sensation's bootloader is locked down tight and that it might not be able to be cracked so that we can flash custom ROMs. That's obviously a deal-breaker to me since I need root, and just hate the bloatware carriers put on a phone. I'd want it unbranded.
So, what would you guys do? Return the Inspire, go with Tmobile and get the Sensation when it comes available in the hope that it can be unlocked by then? Or stick with the Inspire and let it be?

That is a tempting phone but I think I would hold off and stick with the Inspire. There are a couple of reasons.
1. This phone is already hacked wide open and fully customizable. There is no guarantee the same thing will happen with the Sensation. (I am sure it will, but we never really know)
2. What happens if the AT&T T-Mobile merger goes through and they make you switch phones back to something with the AT&T banding within a year. The only good news is that you would come over at a better grandfathered price, but I am sure they will rip that away when LTE comes in.
3. T-Mobile Coverage leaves something to be desired. It rocks where it is present, but it isn't present in a lot of places. If you travel at all take a good look at that coverage map.
4. I believe the Sensation is only going to be capable of 21mb down (only... ha) not the 42mb down T-Mobile is deploying to cities like Vegas. This makes me wonder what their future plans are and if there is something... dare I say it... even better coming in 3 months.

bmolloy said:
The only good news is that you would come over at a better grandfathered price, but I am sure they will rip that away when LTE comes in.
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You make good points.
I presume that LTE is the AT&T 4G network, which the Inspire is designed for? Y'see I posed the above question on the assumption that the Sensation would operate on AT&T's 4G network as the merger goes forward, and/or that AT&T would offer an equal or better phone as the Tmobile customers were migrated over, but that might not be correct. Can you comment?
The problem I face is that I need to make a final decision by the end of today and either return the Inspire and revert to my no-contrast status, or stick with it. But if I stick with the Inspire, I'm locked into it for 2 years.

BillTheCat said:
Per my other post regarding service plans, I was hoping for some feedback from you guys.
A couple weeks ago I renewed my contract and got an Inspire. I'm still within the return window, and heard about the Sensation. Obviously the Sensation is the more powerful phone and would be preferable over the Inspire. And of course, Tmobile's $80 unlimited plan is very attractive when compared to $110 for the same plan features from AT&T.
However there's some rumor going around that the Sensation's bootloader is locked down tight and that it might not be able to be cracked so that we can flash custom ROMs. That's obviously a deal-breaker to me since I need root, and just hate the bloatware carriers put on a phone. I'd want it unbranded.
So, what would you guys do? Return the Inspire, go with Tmobile and get the Sensation when it comes available in the hope that it can be unlocked by then? Or stick with the Inspire and let it be?
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Not to mention the Sensation will be tied to T-Mobile and if the merger with AT&T goes through, eventually the data will no longer work. T-Mobile has been rumored to be contracting for phones that have quad band HSDPA+ radios. But the latest info is that the G2x doesn't have it. And the G2x was clearly stated it would have the quad band HSDPA+ radio. If the G2x doesn't have, I would not trust the Sensation would have it.
Stick with the Inspire. It's the safer bet.

BillTheCat said:
You make good points.
I presume that LTE is the AT&T 4G network, which the Inspire is designed for? Y'see I posed the above question on the assumption that the Sensation would operate on AT&T's 4G network as the merger goes forward, and/or that AT&T would offer an equal or better phone as the Tmobile customers were migrated over, but that might not be correct. Can you comment?
The problem I face is that I need to make a final decision by the end of today and either return the Inspire and revert to my no-contrast status, or stick with it. But if I stick with the Inspire, I'm locked into it for 2 years.
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My understanding about the merger is that T-Mobile runs their "4G" HSPA+ on different bands than AT&T does so the phones will not be compatible. AT&T wants that company so they can have all that bandwidth, all of those users and all of the towers in the densely populated areas like SF, NY and LV that are notorious for dropping calls when the towers get crowded.
AT&T has plans on rolling out LTE (which the inspire is NOT capable of using) within the next year, T-Mobile does not have any announced LTE plans because their HSPA+ is so good and I am sure they are waiting to see if they do get sucked up.
One other note, the T-Mobile "Unlimited Plan" is now saying they will throttle your data speeds when you reach 2GB. That means that blazing fast 21mb/s download speeds you get will be slowed way down until your billing cycle is up. For the time being AT&T's unlimited is unlimited.
I got the Inspire because I am locked to AT&T with the 4 phones with data plans I have on my contract. I look at this as an awesome phone that will definitely hold me over until they release a phone with LTE, which by that time being that I pay an obscene amount of money to them every month I will be elegible for my 15 month or so upgrade. In reality the only time I feel like my phone is inferior is when I am doing speedtest.net tests with friends of mine that have Thunderbolts which where I live get 20mb down and up. In reality though this phone is absolutely sick and it's only downside is that AT&T doesn't seem to be rolling out a very fast HSPA+ network like they advertised.

Great feedback, guys. I appreciate the help. Still on the fence, but getting closer to a decision.
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T-Mobile has been rumored to be contracting for phones that have quad band HSDPA+ radios.
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This spec says that the phone is quad-band, or am I confusing data with voice radios?
http://www.cellhut.com/HTC-Sensation-Pyramid-30632.html?INO=518754
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AT&T has plans on rolling out LTE (which the inspire is NOT capable of using) within the next year...
One other note, the T-Mobile "Unlimited Plan" is now saying they will throttle your data speeds when you reach 2GB...
In reality though this phone is absolutely sick and it's only downside is that AT&T doesn't seem to be rolling out a very fast HSPA+ network like they advertised...
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All good points. Here are my thoughts:
* If the Inspire isn't capable of LTE, then it's not really a 4G phone, is it? So maybe I should return the sucker now and wait to see what happens?
* I can't see myself ever going over 2G of data per month, and I have WiFi at home and office, so Tmo's throttle isn't much of an issue for me.
* If AT&T's data network isn't as robust as Tmobile's, then maybe I should really be looking to leave then, no? And if the voice network will eventually merge, wouldn't that be another reason to jump ship and go with Tmo?

BillTheCat said:
This spec says that the phone is quad-band, or am I confusing data with voice radios?
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Yeah, that would be the cell radio, which is compatible with AT&T, as well as Edge data network (2G).
According to this Engadget article, the G2x may not have the quad band HSDPA+ radio.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/24/t-mobile-g2x-getting-gingerbread-sooner-than-youd-expect-may/

Looking at those specs the Sensation says that it's 3G bands are 2100/900 MHz. AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz bands for 3G. The 2G radio is quadband so it looks like it will work on EDGE. I have an Nexus One that is unlocked but I had to wait for the AT&T banded one because the T-Mobile unlocked one would not work on AT&T 3G bands.
As for the AT&T not having 4G, that battle has been being fought for a long time here. Really what they did is call their HSPA+ network 4G, just like all of the other cell companies that have the same infrastructure starting doing about a year ago. They aren't exactly lying but they are not exactly telling the truth either. They do actually explain what they are doing on their website, but you have to look for it. I am not a fanboy here, I just think people are flaming AT&T even though they aren't exactly hiding what they are doing. They are just taking advantage of the lack of a universal definition for 4G.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115944
That Sensation is a great phone, honestly if it is unlocked and works on AT&T 3G bands and developers can root it and get some good ROMS I might just have to sell a kidney and buy one off contract to run on AT&T's network.

That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm

swatcop1 said:
That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm
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That is their definition of what comprises 4G, not what this particular phone is capable of.

swatcop1 said:
That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm
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Sweet! If AT&T says it's so, I would more believe them than HTC. But in all actuality, the AT&T LTE will likely be their 4G network. This means, probably, that the Inspire is compatible in the fact that it uses 4G. This would also make the Atrix compatible.
But I'm not all that familiar with LTE to begin with.

swatcop1 said:
That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm
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None of the current phones they are pushing out with "4G" labels have LTE radios. Part of that "What is 4G?" battle. I really think we are at least 1 year away from an LTE phone on AT&T. Just a guess, but I have had them for a long time and watched how slowly they move on stuff like this. An example would be launching the iPhone on only the 2G network when they had a fully deployed 3G network, and rolling out this HSPA+ way after T-Mobile and many international carriers. Not exactly committed to bleeding edge technology here with the big blue ball.

bmolloy said:
They are just taking advantage of the lack of a universal definition for 4G.
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To my way of thinking, 4G is about a speed standard, not a protocol standard. I don't care if the phone speaks Greek or German, as long as it does so at 4G speed. That said, I do agree with you that AT&T (or other large companies) tend to get into the crosshairs because it's easy to pick on the 800 pound gorilla.
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That Sensation is a great phone, honestly if it is unlocked and works on AT&T 3G bands and developers can root it and get some good ROMS...
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I'm smellin' a lot of 'if' comin' off this plan. Lots of variables - timing, hardware, rooting, unlocking, ROM availability... there's a lot of uncertainty. Might just stick where I am. Besides, there's no saying that even IF everything went well with Tmo and the Sensation that when they're absorbed by AT&T that users won't be forced into an Inspire or other phone anyway.

Understood thanks

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Sweet! If AT&T says it's so, I would more believe them than HTC. But in all actuality, the AT&T LTE will likely be their 4G network. This means, probably, that the Inspire is compatible in the fact that it uses 4G. This would also make the Atrix compatible.
But I'm not all that familiar with LTE to begin with.
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Actually AT&T's plan is to be the only carrier that has LTE and HSPA+ so those in areas that don't have LTE can fall back on HSPA+ and still have somewhat of the 4G experience.
Like it has been said, none of their current phones have LTE radios. The Inspire will see 4G HSPA+ type speeds once the backhaul has been completed in your area but will never see LTE speeds when they roll out.

Any last thoughts on this? I have only until tomorrow to make my decision.

Verizon's LTE is fast now, but wait till it gets saturated like ATT. It'll go downhill just like Sprint's WiMax did.
I personally, would stick w/ ATT because of the Tmob merger. When that's done, the ATT network will get better for us the consumers.
If you have an Unlimited data plan, that's enough reason to stay IMHO. All the carriers are going the way of tiered data plans as an attempt to make the "experience" the best for all of us. I don't like it but don't have a choice either.
I think that if you'll fight the urge to have the best now, you'll be better off in the long run when all the wrinkles get ironed out w/ the ATT-Tmob merge.
My $.02
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I say sensation because its newwer.LOL

I'm not ENTIRELY certain... but I believe the incredible S's bootloader is signed, and has yet to be cracked (or whatever needs to be done for custom Kernels/Roms) I'm not sure if HTC will continue the trend of signing bootloaders, etc, but seeing as how it's a newer phone, it would most likely follow that pattern.
If you're into hacking/modding/tweaking to the extent of a fully unlocked phone (read:custom kernels, more rom choice) then get the Inspire 4G.
If you find yourself pleased with Sense 3.0/ HTC's offerings in general, get the Sensation.
As a side note, I'm sure root will eventually be found for it, but no telling when with HTC changing their phone security game up.

So did Sprint stop implementing 4G in other cities or what?

I'm always hearing about Verizon's LTE service going live another city. And now I find out that its going live where I live. I mean Sprint was the first and still I don't have any wimax 4g where I'm at.
Sorry for the rant....I just don't get how Verizon's LTE service is live in my city when sprints 4g is not.
In fact I believe Verizon's LTE service is live in a lot more cities than Sprints Wimax 4G service
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i talked to a sprint rep about sprint losing its contracts that allowed them to use other carrier's towers. he tried to reassure me that to offset the issue, theyre starting to rollout more 3g/4g towers. now i don't know how much truth is in that, but i'm just gonna take it with a grain of salt.

both sprint and clear have no money to roll out more 4g. they havent turned on any markets in months.

Yah and also there talk of Sprint/clear moving to Lte.

They just rolled WiMax out to like 40 new markets a couple of months ago.
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I'm still waiting for 3G to show up in my area.
Heck, I'd be happy to get any sort of cellular service at all at my house.

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both sprint and clear have no money to roll out more 4g. they havent turned on any markets in months.
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This couldn't be more incorrect, and yes they have been rolling out coverage in many areas. Go ahead and go over to the Clear.com site and look at coverage. Zoom in to areas and you will see green in many places, even though they aren't official Clear cities yet. Clear actually has been doing quite well, as has Sprint.
http://corporate.clearwire.com/releases.cfm
This will show they are expanding with Sprint. They also had one of the most successful quarters to date for them. That is also in there.
Don't spread misinfo!
They also will be upgrading it to be faster.
http://www.talkandroid.com/41725-fc...idForums+(Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)

poor, naive, uninformed customers being taken advantage of...
womp womp. they dont have money to roll out more service. they have eliminated most retail outlets. do more research and you will see, that even though they posted gains last QUARTER, it doesnt help the last two years of losses. regardless of posting gains, they are NOT rolling out 4g.

I think its both....
Clearwire is behind the 8 ball, but getting rid of retail was a good move. Now they can concentrate strictly on building out the WIMAX network, and eventually push out WIMAX 2 to legitimately compete in the 4G war. The question is whether or not they can stay afloat to do so....

tailsthecat3 said:
womp womp. they dont have money to roll out more service. they have eliminated most retail outlets. do more research and you will see, that even though they posted gains last QUARTER, it doesnt help the last two years of losses. regardless of posting gains, they are NOT rolling out 4g.
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Once you again you clearly show 0 knowledge in this. They shut down outlets because Sprint had asked them to spend more interest and money into building out the infrastructure. I have about 10 sources that can confirm this, and I can also confirm it by showing coverage that is showing up in the map every day. Stop trolling and get some real facts. Clear has also been testing LTE and a wider spectrum for Wimax here in PHX. So you either do your research or zip your mouth. I posted links to hard facts, showing coverage being built and turned on, and the fact the speeds are being upgraded. I will also note that a Clear truck has been building a new tower about 500FT from my house.
Once again I will post it
May 12th they opened up more coverage to the Bay Area.
http://corporate.clearwire.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=576679
Here is more proof, Sprint helping them build Multi-Mode towers. That 2.5ghz is the Wimax Spetrum.
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19

Clear has been hurting for money but they have rolled out a few places like grand rapids, mi and a few more. Sprint is working on project leap frog which is combining the base towers to give way better signal and merging the 800mhz into all the towers to provide 1xadvanced coverage for simultanious voice and data. I for one am excited especially when the 800 mhz spectrum turns from iden to lte plus the wimax out will be awesome just be patient, sprint has really good things coming
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Today sprint has a event here in Puerto Rico to announced the 4g
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abrcrmdl23 said:
Clear has been hurting for money but they have rolled out a few places like grand rapids, mi and a few more. Sprint is working on project leap frog which is combining the base towers to give way better signal and merging the 800mhz into all the towers to provide 1xadvanced coverage for simultanious voice and data. I for one am excited especially when the 800 mhz spectrum turns from iden to lte plus the wimax out will be awesome just be patient, sprint has really good things coming
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This is also known as network vision. http://tinyurl.com/4xeq89p (at least as far as I can tell)
To the poster who said a sprint rep tried to reassure you they have posted many internal docs recently about this to help educate reps.
And the western MI outages that happened has helped to lite the fire on this burner.

I can now connect to 4G in my house near Lansing, MI. To my knowledge, they have never announced anything in the Lansing and Flint areas, but if you go to http://www.clear.com/coverage, you can see if it is available in your area.

I really hope sprint puts lte on 800 MHz ...it would line up with where Europe will be so eventually we will have a situation where most phones in the us have at least 700mhz domestic...and 800mhz for international roaming ....if they use it for evdo now it could be a long time before we see a lte rollout on sprint
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Clearwire goes LTE

Now that Clearwire announced the move to LTE what happens to all of us with WiMax antennas in their phones stuck in a city where there is no towers? Can they do a software upgrade and change our phones to support LTE? I heard that if they implement LTE on the same frequency as WiMax is currently, the software upgrade would be possible.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20087725&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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whether its possible or not is regardless no carrier would let you upgrade your 2 year old phone to work as nice as the current ones when you can come in and buy something new and shiney.
afaik they are using lightsquared for lte and supplementing it with clear wimax/lte

Well I'm foreseeing a lawsuit case for every city which doesn't have and will never get WiMax for all the devices sprint is currently selling. New models still come out with 4g WiMax antennas built-in and it seems like it would be in sprint's best interest to make sure they can switch all these phones to work on the "new" LTE network. Especially when they force people to carry that $10 / mo charge which started as a 4g charge and since had been changed to be called "premium data" charge.
Too many phones on sprint have that big 4G title on the box for consumers not to notice that there are no 4g connections anywhere.
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sprint has their ass covered with a coverage may vary. no lawsuit would be taken serious after that. sprint has no obligation to "upgrade" users to lte (if its even possible). yes there were rumors of it but if they use different freqs well then sorry sucks to be you. besides by the time lte is available to most everyone on saprint there will be new faster phones etc etc.
as for the 10 dollar charge, i had mine removed thanks to a very nice csr on both lines., and i have 4g here

shabbypenguin said:
sprint has their ass covered with a coverage may vary. no lawsuit would be taken serious after that. sprint has no obligation to "upgrade" users to lte (if its even possible). yes there were rumors of it but if they use different freqs well then sorry sucks to be you. besides by the time lte is available to most everyone on saprint there will be new faster phones etc etc.
as for the 10 dollar charge, i had mine removed thanks to a very nice csr on both lines., and i have 4g here
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Looks like there is already one lawsuit in progress. An then there is this website which I'm not sure who owns.
Judging from the past consumers lawsuits, it really doesn't matter what you put in the fine print. Walk into any Sprint store or Best Buy and the 4G now network signs could be very much misleading consumers because of other carrier’s which do offer nation wide 4G. Some people could be simply switching to sprint thinking they'll get 4G phone which has 4G speeds.
But I may try to get that $10 charge removed. Thanks for the tip.