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Sprint possibly to acquire T-MoUS

So I read this article today.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/03/08/report-sprint-t-mobile-usa-talk-tie/#
I really have no opinion on the matter, but I am curious what that would mean for all of us.

Hmm, very interesting indeed. If this happens, I'd imagine all existing TMO customers would automatically become a customer of the new merged entity. Maybe they'd give the option to opt out of contract early with no fees? Idk...

Yeah that's what I was thinking. It would almost surely alter the contract, in which case they would have to offer customer's to cut the cord, no charge.
Pretty sure that was the case when Sprint acquired Nextel as well.

IIRC contracts and technologies did not change at the time of the 2004 merger. They permitted customers to switch to the other "side" at will, then combined into a single set of plan offerings in 2005. They still offer Nextel iDEN technology with some handset products.
I was once a Sprint CDMA customer, but left them in 2002 or 2003 to go with T-Mobile and GSM, so I didn't live through the merger as a customer myself.

WHAT!
Sprint has a good reputation around here but T-Mobile by far is the better company IMO... A merger between these two companies is weird... Even though i think in the pass this was talked about before...
If this happens Sprint would oviously be the company coming out and T-Mobile just being pushed to the back of the company untill there are few customers left and they would shut it down
How would sprint befite from this? Besides customer merging over... Even thought a fair amount would end their contract then go with sprint

I hate sprint so ugh lol
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I hate sprint so ugh lol
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gurl, yoo sew krayzee.

T-Mobile might be number 4 in terms of number of customers
but Sprint is bringing up the rear when it comes to the 4G
coverage area an number of 4G phones.
I'm not a Sprint fan at all.
I hope it doesn't happen.

So, how does a CDMA company merge with a GSM company and still grow both technologies? My guess is that one has to be dropped eventually. Which one will it be?

PuffDaddy_d said:
So, how does a CDMA company merge with a GSM company and still grow both technologies? My guess is that one has to be dropped eventually. Which one will it be?
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I'm guessing tmobiles will drop cuz if sprint is looking for 4g then it should turn to T-Mobile cuz H+ isn't offically considered 4g
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You know I just dropped that crap called sprint for tmobile. I hope this doesn't happen
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Hope it don't happen I been a happy T-Mobile customer for over 10 years and I see nothing but problems with people that have sprint
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julianmgn said:
I'm guessing tmobiles will drop cuz if sprint is looking for 4g then it should turn to T-Mobile cuz H+ isn't offically considered 4g
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Yes it is. It was made an official 4G technology a while ago.
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ELBdelorean said:
Yes it is. It was made an official 4G technology a while ago.
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Look up what 4g speed actually is defined as. I believe its around 100 mbps. No where near what we can get. It's like 3.5 g
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Cdma would be dropped since sprint is most likely moving to Lte. Keeping hspa+ and moving from wiimax would be sprints best decision at least we would have truly unlimited data. Let's hope carriers don't become full dominant with lte since they have full control of it. I don't want to be charged for youtube or facebook.
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paczek said:
Look up what 4g speed actually is defined as. I believe its around 100 mbps. No where near what we can get. It's like 3.5 g
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This used to be correct, but the definitions for what is considered "4G" have changed after it was recognized that HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all technologies that are delivering significantly faster speeds and an enhanced user experience when compared to 3G; so, HSPA+ is technically considered an official 4G technology.
There would be ups and downs to a Sprint- T-Mobile merger. I all depends on how it is executed.
T-Mobile NEEDS more spectrum - Sprint/Nextel has a lot of it. From a technology standpoint it used to seem impossible to merge the companies - After all sprint already has a CDMA & iDen network, plus WiMax, but T-Mobile operates off of GSM/UMTS technology.
The reason this speculation is different now is due to the fact that both companies have "loosely" discussed moving to LTE "eventually" and have been apprehensive about comitting to it. If they pair up, then migrate to LTE, it will allow the networks to be on the same playing field (as well as put the combined company in a competitive position against AT&T/Verizon).
As much as I hate to say it, this is very possible (maybe even probable) but would take a lonnnggg time to be a reality.

I dont see why so many people are complaining. With the merging of the two companies, we get better coverage and faster 4G speeds and much more phones will be developed for us. Tmobile was lacking as far as great smartphones before the glacier and g2. Were just now coming around.
So stop complaining, I'm actually excited if this happens.
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dbiggss said:
This used to be correct, but the definitions for what is considered "4G" have changed after it was recognized that HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all technologies that are delivering significantly faster speeds and an enhanced user experience when compared to 3G; so, HSPA+ is technically considered an official 4G technology.
There would be ups and downs to a Sprint- T-Mobile merger. I all depends on how it is executed.
T-Mobile NEEDS more spectrum - Sprint/Nextel has a lot of it. From a technology standpoint it used to seem impossible to merge the companies - After all sprint already has a CDMA & iDen network, plus WiMax, but T-Mobile operates off of GSM/UMTS technology.
The reason this speculation is different now is due to the fact that both companies have "loosely" discussed moving to LTE "eventually" and have been apprehensive about comitting to it. If they pair up, then migrate to LTE, it will allow the networks to be on the same playing field (as well as put the combined company in a competitive position against AT&T/Verizon).
As much as I hate to say it, this is very possible (maybe even probable) but would take a lonnnggg time to be a reality.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/20/hspa-lte-and-wimax-now-officially-called-4g/
^^ Article that says that it will be consider officilly 4G
I agree.. It not something that would happen overnight or for that matter a year or so... Sure the names and prices and everything in between wont take long but merging the two companies into a single Wireless technology would take years...
But in the end sprint would have a huge wireless footprint.. GSM/UMTS with CDMA/WiMax and eventually LTE
If Sprint decides (if it merges) to continue supporting those frequencies.. it will have if not the biggest wide variety of phones

I only care if the pricing of data plan will change.

Inspire or Sensation?

Per my other post regarding service plans, I was hoping for some feedback from you guys.
A couple weeks ago I renewed my contract and got an Inspire. I'm still within the return window, and heard about the Sensation. Obviously the Sensation is the more powerful phone and would be preferable over the Inspire. And of course, Tmobile's $80 unlimited plan is very attractive when compared to $110 for the same plan features from AT&T.
However there's some rumor going around that the Sensation's bootloader is locked down tight and that it might not be able to be cracked so that we can flash custom ROMs. That's obviously a deal-breaker to me since I need root, and just hate the bloatware carriers put on a phone. I'd want it unbranded.
So, what would you guys do? Return the Inspire, go with Tmobile and get the Sensation when it comes available in the hope that it can be unlocked by then? Or stick with the Inspire and let it be?

That is a tempting phone but I think I would hold off and stick with the Inspire. There are a couple of reasons.
1. This phone is already hacked wide open and fully customizable. There is no guarantee the same thing will happen with the Sensation. (I am sure it will, but we never really know)
2. What happens if the AT&T T-Mobile merger goes through and they make you switch phones back to something with the AT&T banding within a year. The only good news is that you would come over at a better grandfathered price, but I am sure they will rip that away when LTE comes in.
3. T-Mobile Coverage leaves something to be desired. It rocks where it is present, but it isn't present in a lot of places. If you travel at all take a good look at that coverage map.
4. I believe the Sensation is only going to be capable of 21mb down (only... ha) not the 42mb down T-Mobile is deploying to cities like Vegas. This makes me wonder what their future plans are and if there is something... dare I say it... even better coming in 3 months.

bmolloy said:
The only good news is that you would come over at a better grandfathered price, but I am sure they will rip that away when LTE comes in.
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You make good points.
I presume that LTE is the AT&T 4G network, which the Inspire is designed for? Y'see I posed the above question on the assumption that the Sensation would operate on AT&T's 4G network as the merger goes forward, and/or that AT&T would offer an equal or better phone as the Tmobile customers were migrated over, but that might not be correct. Can you comment?
The problem I face is that I need to make a final decision by the end of today and either return the Inspire and revert to my no-contrast status, or stick with it. But if I stick with the Inspire, I'm locked into it for 2 years.

BillTheCat said:
Per my other post regarding service plans, I was hoping for some feedback from you guys.
A couple weeks ago I renewed my contract and got an Inspire. I'm still within the return window, and heard about the Sensation. Obviously the Sensation is the more powerful phone and would be preferable over the Inspire. And of course, Tmobile's $80 unlimited plan is very attractive when compared to $110 for the same plan features from AT&T.
However there's some rumor going around that the Sensation's bootloader is locked down tight and that it might not be able to be cracked so that we can flash custom ROMs. That's obviously a deal-breaker to me since I need root, and just hate the bloatware carriers put on a phone. I'd want it unbranded.
So, what would you guys do? Return the Inspire, go with Tmobile and get the Sensation when it comes available in the hope that it can be unlocked by then? Or stick with the Inspire and let it be?
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Not to mention the Sensation will be tied to T-Mobile and if the merger with AT&T goes through, eventually the data will no longer work. T-Mobile has been rumored to be contracting for phones that have quad band HSDPA+ radios. But the latest info is that the G2x doesn't have it. And the G2x was clearly stated it would have the quad band HSDPA+ radio. If the G2x doesn't have, I would not trust the Sensation would have it.
Stick with the Inspire. It's the safer bet.

BillTheCat said:
You make good points.
I presume that LTE is the AT&T 4G network, which the Inspire is designed for? Y'see I posed the above question on the assumption that the Sensation would operate on AT&T's 4G network as the merger goes forward, and/or that AT&T would offer an equal or better phone as the Tmobile customers were migrated over, but that might not be correct. Can you comment?
The problem I face is that I need to make a final decision by the end of today and either return the Inspire and revert to my no-contrast status, or stick with it. But if I stick with the Inspire, I'm locked into it for 2 years.
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My understanding about the merger is that T-Mobile runs their "4G" HSPA+ on different bands than AT&T does so the phones will not be compatible. AT&T wants that company so they can have all that bandwidth, all of those users and all of the towers in the densely populated areas like SF, NY and LV that are notorious for dropping calls when the towers get crowded.
AT&T has plans on rolling out LTE (which the inspire is NOT capable of using) within the next year, T-Mobile does not have any announced LTE plans because their HSPA+ is so good and I am sure they are waiting to see if they do get sucked up.
One other note, the T-Mobile "Unlimited Plan" is now saying they will throttle your data speeds when you reach 2GB. That means that blazing fast 21mb/s download speeds you get will be slowed way down until your billing cycle is up. For the time being AT&T's unlimited is unlimited.
I got the Inspire because I am locked to AT&T with the 4 phones with data plans I have on my contract. I look at this as an awesome phone that will definitely hold me over until they release a phone with LTE, which by that time being that I pay an obscene amount of money to them every month I will be elegible for my 15 month or so upgrade. In reality the only time I feel like my phone is inferior is when I am doing speedtest.net tests with friends of mine that have Thunderbolts which where I live get 20mb down and up. In reality though this phone is absolutely sick and it's only downside is that AT&T doesn't seem to be rolling out a very fast HSPA+ network like they advertised.

Great feedback, guys. I appreciate the help. Still on the fence, but getting closer to a decision.
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T-Mobile has been rumored to be contracting for phones that have quad band HSDPA+ radios.
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This spec says that the phone is quad-band, or am I confusing data with voice radios?
http://www.cellhut.com/HTC-Sensation-Pyramid-30632.html?INO=518754
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AT&T has plans on rolling out LTE (which the inspire is NOT capable of using) within the next year...
One other note, the T-Mobile "Unlimited Plan" is now saying they will throttle your data speeds when you reach 2GB...
In reality though this phone is absolutely sick and it's only downside is that AT&T doesn't seem to be rolling out a very fast HSPA+ network like they advertised...
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All good points. Here are my thoughts:
* If the Inspire isn't capable of LTE, then it's not really a 4G phone, is it? So maybe I should return the sucker now and wait to see what happens?
* I can't see myself ever going over 2G of data per month, and I have WiFi at home and office, so Tmo's throttle isn't much of an issue for me.
* If AT&T's data network isn't as robust as Tmobile's, then maybe I should really be looking to leave then, no? And if the voice network will eventually merge, wouldn't that be another reason to jump ship and go with Tmo?

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This spec says that the phone is quad-band, or am I confusing data with voice radios?
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Yeah, that would be the cell radio, which is compatible with AT&T, as well as Edge data network (2G).
According to this Engadget article, the G2x may not have the quad band HSDPA+ radio.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/24/t-mobile-g2x-getting-gingerbread-sooner-than-youd-expect-may/

Looking at those specs the Sensation says that it's 3G bands are 2100/900 MHz. AT&T uses 850/1900 MHz bands for 3G. The 2G radio is quadband so it looks like it will work on EDGE. I have an Nexus One that is unlocked but I had to wait for the AT&T banded one because the T-Mobile unlocked one would not work on AT&T 3G bands.
As for the AT&T not having 4G, that battle has been being fought for a long time here. Really what they did is call their HSPA+ network 4G, just like all of the other cell companies that have the same infrastructure starting doing about a year ago. They aren't exactly lying but they are not exactly telling the truth either. They do actually explain what they are doing on their website, but you have to look for it. I am not a fanboy here, I just think people are flaming AT&T even though they aren't exactly hiding what they are doing. They are just taking advantage of the lack of a universal definition for 4G.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115944
That Sensation is a great phone, honestly if it is unlocked and works on AT&T 3G bands and developers can root it and get some good ROMS I might just have to sell a kidney and buy one off contract to run on AT&T's network.

That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm

swatcop1 said:
That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
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That is their definition of what comprises 4G, not what this particular phone is capable of.

swatcop1 said:
That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm
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Sweet! If AT&T says it's so, I would more believe them than HTC. But in all actuality, the AT&T LTE will likely be their 4G network. This means, probably, that the Inspire is compatible in the fact that it uses 4G. This would also make the Atrix compatible.
But I'm not all that familiar with LTE to begin with.

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That is weird because if you go to the ATT site under inspire it says
4G* - HSPA+/LTE HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
I just assumed it was capable of LTE
Humm
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None of the current phones they are pushing out with "4G" labels have LTE radios. Part of that "What is 4G?" battle. I really think we are at least 1 year away from an LTE phone on AT&T. Just a guess, but I have had them for a long time and watched how slowly they move on stuff like this. An example would be launching the iPhone on only the 2G network when they had a fully deployed 3G network, and rolling out this HSPA+ way after T-Mobile and many international carriers. Not exactly committed to bleeding edge technology here with the big blue ball.

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They are just taking advantage of the lack of a universal definition for 4G.
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To my way of thinking, 4G is about a speed standard, not a protocol standard. I don't care if the phone speaks Greek or German, as long as it does so at 4G speed. That said, I do agree with you that AT&T (or other large companies) tend to get into the crosshairs because it's easy to pick on the 800 pound gorilla.
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That Sensation is a great phone, honestly if it is unlocked and works on AT&T 3G bands and developers can root it and get some good ROMS...
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I'm smellin' a lot of 'if' comin' off this plan. Lots of variables - timing, hardware, rooting, unlocking, ROM availability... there's a lot of uncertainty. Might just stick where I am. Besides, there's no saying that even IF everything went well with Tmo and the Sensation that when they're absorbed by AT&T that users won't be forced into an Inspire or other phone anyway.

Understood thanks

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Sweet! If AT&T says it's so, I would more believe them than HTC. But in all actuality, the AT&T LTE will likely be their 4G network. This means, probably, that the Inspire is compatible in the fact that it uses 4G. This would also make the Atrix compatible.
But I'm not all that familiar with LTE to begin with.
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Actually AT&T's plan is to be the only carrier that has LTE and HSPA+ so those in areas that don't have LTE can fall back on HSPA+ and still have somewhat of the 4G experience.
Like it has been said, none of their current phones have LTE radios. The Inspire will see 4G HSPA+ type speeds once the backhaul has been completed in your area but will never see LTE speeds when they roll out.

Any last thoughts on this? I have only until tomorrow to make my decision.

Verizon's LTE is fast now, but wait till it gets saturated like ATT. It'll go downhill just like Sprint's WiMax did.
I personally, would stick w/ ATT because of the Tmob merger. When that's done, the ATT network will get better for us the consumers.
If you have an Unlimited data plan, that's enough reason to stay IMHO. All the carriers are going the way of tiered data plans as an attempt to make the "experience" the best for all of us. I don't like it but don't have a choice either.
I think that if you'll fight the urge to have the best now, you'll be better off in the long run when all the wrinkles get ironed out w/ the ATT-Tmob merge.
My $.02
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I say sensation because its newwer.LOL

I'm not ENTIRELY certain... but I believe the incredible S's bootloader is signed, and has yet to be cracked (or whatever needs to be done for custom Kernels/Roms) I'm not sure if HTC will continue the trend of signing bootloaders, etc, but seeing as how it's a newer phone, it would most likely follow that pattern.
If you're into hacking/modding/tweaking to the extent of a fully unlocked phone (read:custom kernels, more rom choice) then get the Inspire 4G.
If you find yourself pleased with Sense 3.0/ HTC's offerings in general, get the Sensation.
As a side note, I'm sure root will eventually be found for it, but no telling when with HTC changing their phone security game up.

[Q] Simultaneous voice and data

Can anyone confirm whether or not the Charge is capable of simultaneous voice and data?
If so, is it while on 4G only, or, like the Thunderbolt, can it do while in a non-4G area?
Searched around Google and get conflicting reports, so hoping someone here can clear up.
Thanks.

The Revolution is the only one so far that can do VoLTE, as for the Charge I have been looking to see if it has SVDO like the ThunderBolt. I had thought at one point it did but now I can't find that info.

No voice and data on 3g. It only works on lte.

the tbolt was supposed to be the only one of the initial launch lte phones that could do voice/data on 3g simultaneously

RaptorMD said:
The Revolution is the only one so far that can do VoLTE, as for the Charge I have been looking to see if it has SVDO like the ThunderBolt. I had thought at one point it did but now I can't find that info.
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True VoiceOverLTE ("VoLTE") does not exist yet. Should be functional in late 2012.

Correct, Verizon isn't supporting it yet, but the LG Revolution has completed the first test call and it is capable of VoLTE, but again until Verizon supports it, its mute.

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Correct, Verizon isn't supporting it yet, but the LG Revolution has completed the first test call and it is capable of VoLTE, but again until Verizon supports it, its mute.
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Oh, really? I actually wasn't aware of that.
Thanks!
(No sarcasm!)

No sarcasm received , but here is an article about it http://www.slashgear.com/verizon-co...er-lte-call-on-a-commercial-network-09132406/ but the long term is where the focus has to be on getting these features in every LTE phone.

You are correct, the Thunderbolt is the only phone on Verizon that can talk and web over 3G. I thought I would miss it by giving up my Thunderbolt to my wife but southern California where I live is well blanketed with 4G and I'm in LTE coverage most of my daily usage.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm really back and forth on whether I want one or not. I've always used the "no simultaneous voice and data" as a reason not to switch to Verizon. The Thunderbolt took away that excuse, so I took the plunge, but I miss the SAMOLED screens, especially when outside.
I probably don't use voice/data at the same time as much as I think, but I know the times in the past when a friend on Verizon couldn't get a picture or email I sent while we were talking on the phone were very annoying.
Verizon's keeping me from getting one anyways, when the heck are they going to release the darn thing?
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You are correct, the Thunderbolt is the only phone on Verizon that can talk and web over 3G. I thought I would miss it by giving up my Thunderbolt to my wife but southern California where I live is well blanketed with 4G and I'm in LTE coverage most of my daily usage.
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What part of SoCal you in? LTE is strong in most places I frequent, but some places, like Santa Clarita = no LTE. My work takes me to that area often enough that it's a concern (for example, I'm on a project near Magic Mountain for the next two weeks).

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Verizon's keeping me from getting one anyways, when the heck are they going to release the darn thing?
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Tomorrow
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Tomorrow
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Yeah, tomorrow is the "official" release, but they got the OK to sell/activate them today! Go for it if your store is still open!!!

I work for VZW lol can only buy mine online. So waiting till midnight
I went home for the day before they sent out the email giving the OK to sell today lol

It does indeed. http://www.technobuffalo.com/ jon4lakers on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDXbmQldt80&sns=em
1:45 mark for the impatient. I still can't stand the damn physical buttons. But I'm so torn on the LTE. Stay and play with GSM and hope for LTE in 6-12 months or move now to CDMA, blahhhh!, and play with the future in LTE?

I prefer capacitative buttons too. It's the main thing I like better about the Thunderbolt so far. At least the buttons are bigger and require less force than the Droid X.

I live in Orange County which was one of the first LTE markets launched I'm currently in San Jose which has very decent LTE coverage. I did notice on my drive through Santa Clarita the 4G was spotty. I'm sure that will be improving shortly.
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returning phone :( T-mo sucks!

I love this phone, but t-mobile sucks. I can't take the ****ty service anymore. I've had more dropped calls in the past 2 weeks than I've had with Att, sprint, and Verizon over the past 10yrs.
I originally thought I'd be able to use att towers, but we all know that isn't yet possible.
Not sure what carrier and phone to go with now. hmmmm....

What is Tmo's coverage map look like in your area? If it was bad to begin with, then you should be expecting this coming in.
If not, then you may just have a bad device.

not sure about dropped calls, but T-mobile signal coverage does suck

You meant to say Tmobile sucks in you location because it doesn't suck in mine (Baltimore) but you know who's service does suck in my area. ATT and Sprint. My wife's iPhone gets multiple dropped calls though out the week and there data speeds suck. Sprints WiMax is laughable and always gets static on the line. Tmobile however has insane 4g speeds where I live and I average 8mbs DL and 3mbs UL in and around Baltimore. Not to mention I haven't had a dropped call since I can remember. I don't even remember the last time I went without service. In the end there is no point for me to pay more and get less. A post like yours is all subjective depending on where you live and in the end, this thread is idiotic. Nobody wants to hear you high about carrier service in a forum dedicated to a device.
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eagercrow said:
I love this phone, but t-mobile sucks. I can't take the ****ty service anymore. I've had more dropped calls in the past 2 weeks than I've had with Att, sprint, and Verizon over the past 10yrs.
I originally thought I'd be able to use att towers, but we all know that isn't yet possible.
Not sure what carrier and phone to go with now. hmmmm....
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Try here.

mikett26 said:
What is Tmo's coverage map look like in your area? If it was bad to begin with, then you should be expecting this coming in.
If not, then you may just have a bad device.
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It shows as covering everywhere. I wouldn't have gotten the phone if the coverage maps were accurate. I get 3g att coverage on my company phone when I have 0 signal with tmobile.
Driving my kids to school 8 miles away I have NO service for 80% of the drive, never had issues with any other carrier. I can pretty much count on ONLY getting service if I'm at or near a city center.

In my area I have great t-mobile coverage and I had att before which was very bad.
So go for the network which works best for you. No point in cribbing here since I guess no can help you. All it does is a flame war.
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I'm just frustrated cause I like the phone so much. Don't need to get your panties in a bunch.

I get great service in my area (Indianapolis) with T-Mobile 4g damn near all day hardly ever drops to 3g and 4 bars everywhere I go..NO DROPPED calls ever I've been with T-Mobile since 2005
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After being with att, Verizon,and sprint, T-Mobile is by far the coverage for me on my area of Dallas TX, I sit at 1 bar with Verizon in the house if I'm lucky, sprint is always no more than 2 and att is the 2nd best for me.
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I'm having a fair amount of problems with lost signal, and all I did was upgrade from my Nexus 1. Still live in Chicago, still drive the same routes, but before where it was not an issue it is now. Which forces me to conclude it's either SW that still needs improvement, or hardware a la Apple's infamous antenna problems.

eagercrow said:
I love this phone, but t-mobile sucks. I can't take the ****ty service anymore. I've had more dropped calls in the past 2 weeks than I've had with Att, sprint, and Verizon over the past 10yrs.
I originally thought I'd be able to use att towers, but we all know that isn't yet possible.
Not sure what carrier and phone to go with now. hmmmm....
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sprint=over priced/behind the curve (4g?!?!?)
At&t = big bill/****ty network and customer serivce (in my area... i was a customer for 4 years)
verizon= jacked up plans/high prices no customer loyalty or service..... (good service tho in my area)
T-mo= great customer service/decent service (my area) and i got a free g2x from them so suck it
/thread go get a trac phone
stop making useless threads how your gonna get better phones/service NO ONE CARES rant about it on your myspace page
KTHXBYE

I love your threads today...Stop making me laugh. It hurts when I laugh.
I have to say though that I think the I'm leaving posts have their place. If I'm researching a potential phone, I'm interested in disgruntled customers and their rants. They helped me decide on this phone for instance.
While there are a few(I'm leaving posts) for the G2X, there are not that many. And when someone is leaving for a bs, unenlightened, not ever gonna be satisfied reason, it's usually pretty apparent. But go to Androidforums and see all the complaints about the Indulge. There are legions of users who are unhappy. If one person is detered then the people who've posted have helped.
Thank Zeus for the forums. An educated consumer is a powerful one. You have to have a lot of opinions to make an informed decision. Even the redonkalous ones LOL.

I drive between NJ and PA around 70 miles to work everyday. Never dropped a call even while on drive all the way. Tmobile coverage is very good. It sure hops between 2g and 4g, but that is due to the software. AT&T is not at all good in my area.

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It shows as covering everywhere. I wouldn't have gotten the phone if the coverage maps were accurate. I get 3g att coverage on my company phone when I have 0 signal with tmobile.
Driving my kids to school 8 miles away I have NO service for 80% of the drive, never had issues with any other carrier. I can pretty much count on ONLY getting service if I'm at or near a city center.
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8 miles to school!!! damn. Must not be in the city
Tmobile works well in the cities but not so much in-between. I travel and it sucks sometimes. Airports are the worst. ALL AIRPORTS SHOULD HAVE GREAT COVERAGE ON ALL CARRIERS... but they don't. With AT&T and Tmobile I'm often left with little to no cell signal. Verizon has the best coverage and is the most reliable. AT&T is second with Tmobile last.
90% of the time I am within the city and get great 4G data speeds and a reliable network.

I am always amused by how people are so easily affected my the media machine. BMW is the ultimate driving machine, Verizon is the best, Mercedes never break, blah blah blah...
I have Tmo in SoCal...I've had ATT, Sprint and Verizon. I would not trade Tmo's customer service for any or all of the other 3's claims. Sprint and ATT's data speeds are laughable here. Verizon is good but not worth 3x the price. ATT I think spends all their time trying to make their automated phones menus more torturous. The last time I needed to call ATT, I spent 2 hours calling number after number and never got my issue resolved. I cancelled all my ATT services at that point...took nearly all day to do it but boy do I feel good about it now.

jrwingate6 said:
You meant to say Tmobile sucks in you location because it doesn't suck in mine (Baltimore) but you know who's service does suck in my area. ATT and Sprint. My wife's iPhone gets multiple dropped calls though out the week and there data speeds suck. Sprints WiMax is laughable and always gets static on the line. Tmobile however has insane 4g speeds where I live and I average 8mbs DL and 3mbs UL in and around Baltimore. Not to mention I haven't had a dropped call since I can remember. I don't even remember the last time I went without service. In the end there is no point for me to pay more and get less. A post like yours is all subjective depending on where you live and in the end, this thread is idiotic. Nobody wants to hear you high about carrier service in a forum dedicated to a device.
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Same in baltimore with good service.

eagercrow said:
I love this phone, but t-mobile sucks. I can't take the ****ty service anymore. I've had more dropped calls in the past 2 weeks than I've had with Att, sprint, and Verizon over the past 10yrs.
I originally thought I'd be able to use att towers, but we all know that isn't yet possible.
Not sure what carrier and phone to go with now. hmmmm....
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Do you feel better now?
I live in Kansas City, location of the Sprint World Headquarters, and can't recieve a Sprint signal in my house.
Do you have a point?

Try complaining to AT&T for not carrying the G2X...problem solved.

Tmobile is great in my location and wifi calling will not go against minutes pretty soon. You simply cannot beat that at all .
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Switching to t-mobile from vzw, bad decision?

Can anybody let me know if they switched from VZW to T mobile how the experience has been?
Do you regret it because of signal issues?
Thanks for any advice. [emoji106] [emoji111]

My girlfriend has T-mobile, and I used to have Verizon, until I switched to Sprint for their Google Voice integration. With T-mobile, the signal is realllyy spotty, but with Verizon it was quite good. This is from having been in the same place as her and only I had signal. So, I think you made a good choice.

I think it depends on where you are. Some areas T-Mobile sucks and some areas they are great but if you consider the savings worth, that what matters.

you can test drive Tmobile for 7 days free !
they even send you iphone5s to play for 7 days !
just google tmobile test drive

It just sucks that we probably won't have root with the Verizon version of the Edge.

It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.

Detroitking02 said:
It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.
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T-Mobile has converted some of their Edge network to LTE already and is continuing that process as we speak. Also, they are setting up their 700Mhz LTE network which will require a phone with Band 12 capabilities. Their network continues to improve, but I would try out the test drive and see how you like it. Be sure to return the phone or else they are going to bill you for it.

drbveb88 said:
Can anybody let me know if they switched from VZW to T mobile how the experience has been?
Do you regret it because of signal issues?
Thanks for any advice. [emoji106] [emoji111]
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Here in Minnesota tmobile is awesome, verizon obviously has the best coverage overall, but tmo In the last couple years has extended it's reach immensely, don't get me wrong, the coverage up here is outstanding, speeds are faster than verizon overall, the only difference in the extreme northwoods, like border of Canada in the middle of a lake miles and miles from a person I will have service, i might not have lte whereas verizon does spottingly (that a word?) Lol but overall I have zero complaints, in fact I have a couple buddies that are also in your dilemma take them for a spin first and see what you think

DigChrono said:
My girlfriend has T-mobile, and I used to have Verizon, until I switched to Sprint for their Google Voice integration. With T-mobile, the signal is realllyy spotty, but with Verizon it was quite good. This is from having been in the same place as her and only I had signal. So, I think you made a good choice.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I think it depends on where you are. Some areas T-Mobile sucks and some areas they are great but if you consider the savings worth, that what matters.
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netnerd said:
you can test drive Tmobile for 7 days free !
they even send you iphone5s to play for 7 days !
just google tmobile test drive
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Detroitking02 said:
It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.
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slimc84 said:
T-Mobile has converted some of their Edge network to LTE already and is continuing that process as we speak. Also, they are setting up their 700Mhz LTE network which will require a phone with Band 12 capabilities. Their network continues to improve, but I would try out the test drive and see how you like it. Be sure to return the phone or else they are going to bill you for it.
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jdidtht said:
Here in Minnesota tmobile is awesome, verizon obviously has the best coverage overall, but tmo In the last couple years has extended it's reach immensely, don't get me wrong, the coverage up here is outstanding, speeds are faster than verizon overall, the only difference in the extreme northwoods, like border of Canada in the middle of a lake miles and miles from a person I will have service, i might not have lte whereas verizon does spottingly (that a word?) Lol but overall I have zero complaints, in fact I have a couple buddies that are also in your dilemma take them for a spin first and see what you think
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Thanks everyone. I am in Northern Virginia and the reviews are mixed here. While I am close to DC and Richmond so signal and coverage should be strong, there are so many military bases, Airports and suburbs- which all help to create problem areas.
I will have to give it a try to really get a good gauge. Why can't VZW just release a unlocked phone, save me these dilemmas. Lol.
Again, thanks for all the feedback.

jwjames83 said:
It just sucks that we probably won't have root with the Verizon version of the Edge.
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That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]

drbveb88 said:
That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]
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It's been a little over a year since I have been in that area, but when I was there, I had pretty good service. The only time I had any issues, was when I was inside buildings. But they have rolled out the 700 mhz spectrum there so that should greatly improve signal quality indoors.
Edit: Also, the only two phones listed on the T-Mobile website that support Band 12 are the Note 4 and the Note Edge. So you won't be able to test the connectivity if you do the 7 day test drive with the Iphone 5S.

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That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]
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Could you maybe pay off your t-mobile phone and just use straight talk with the t-mobile compatible straight talk sim card?
It's what I do.

If you have the unlimited data from Verizon i'd stay. they no longer offer that and if you switch to a carrier with bad reception in your area then you wont get to go back. as far as the strait talk comment goes that is no good either, their data speeds are ridiculously low. my wife has straight talk (Verizon phone) and i run circles around her with my Verizon contract phone. it may say 4g, but it's a lie... i just wish they still offered unlimited data so i could have used my upgrade that now will never be used.
if you do not have the unlimited package with Verizon i suggest you run like hell to the first available option that has service in your area. Verizon is mean. unfortunately for me there is no other choice atm.

Straight talk users a bunch of networks like at&t and T-mobile. It will vary by which network you're using on which phone in what area. Even different phones can vary because of their antenna and design blocking reception like some early iPhones. Just a thought. There's a lot of prepaid plans out there, I'd look into those and keep the phone if possible.