ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
A nandroid is a system restore basically. If you fubar something and can get into recovery you can restore that nandroid to exactly where the phone was before. You don't need to flash anything just be able to get into recovery.
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Thanks am, flashing one now just to see....
the2rrell said:
ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
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A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
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A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
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ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
the2rrell said:
ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
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Yup, that would be a good idea - since if you restore the nandroid on an incompatible kernel, you'll have the phone be very unhappy. (Will refuse to boot.)
Much thanks E.........appreciate the time bruh.
this can be closed.
I completely failed here E, i tried to restore a nandroid. i loaded the Infusion GB Kernel then proceeded to restore the nandroid and just get boot loops no matter how i do it.
any thoughts??
Hmm I think I need to look at this later in the week. Starting to sound like Nandroid might be broken in red CWM.
i got it, but i had to load the Kernel - Rom - then do the nandroid. but that kinda of defeats the purpose in my eyes....lol
but yea, if you find something that would be cool to know E.
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My phone is rooted, backedup with clockwork and I even used sprite backup to backup the phone just in case. I plan on flashing my phone for the first time with the Epic Experience rom since it seems to be the most popular.
I'm pretty happy with my phone's current state except the battery life once in a while. So after flashing with a custom rom how do I revert back and restore my phone to the "EXACT" way it is now?
Make a nandroid backup in clockwork, then you can go back whenever you like.
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Restore nandroid backup and flash stock kernel. You will most likely have to flash a non stock kernel for a custom rom, and even if you dont HAVE to, you will probably want to.
So to go back to stock, flash back to a stock kernel, and then restore the nandroid backup.
are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific
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are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific
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yeah its pretty self explanatory, boot into clockworkmod > backup. or you can choose backup current rom an rom manager if you use it. thats your nandroid system backup
that's just confusing. So basically, a nandroid backup is the backup creating using clockwork? lol if so, that was the first thing I did after I installed clockwork.
I have a kernel that i found that i want to flash. When you flash a kernel, does it replace a flashed ROM or do they combine?
Also, when you flash anything (ROM or kernel) does it replace the stock ROM or does it take a spot next to it? Can you make several spots so there can be more than one ROM? What is wiping out a ROM? If you leave a ROM, can you save your setting so when you go back you don't have to start over again? Can you back up contacts,messages, and apps from stock ROM and extract the data to the new ROM?
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I have a kernel that i found that i want to flash. When you flash a kernel, does it replace a flashed ROM or do they combine?
Also, when you flash anything (ROM or kernel) does it replace the stock ROM or does it take a spot next to it? Can you make several spots so there can be more than one ROM? What is wiping out a ROM? If you leave a ROM, can you save your setting so when you go back you don't have to start over again? Can you back up contacts,messages, and apps from stock ROM and extract the data to the new ROM?
I AM CONFUSED
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1. No, they "combine"
2. It replaces it when you flash
3. Yes, but its more complicated than just flashing multiple roms. There is an app but it doesn't support Sensation.
4. Wiping a ROM is just that, wiping your phone of the ROM along with all your app,data and anything else on the phone(SD card not effected).
5. Umm. I don't understand your question completely but yes flashing a new ROM over an old ROM will preserve your data but you can flash a different rom and expect it to work. For example ARHD-->ARHD(updated) is OK but ARHD --> Insertcoin wont work.
6. Yes, its called titanium backup. Look it up.
thanks. after reading this, I stumbled on radios. what are radios?
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thanks. after reading this, I stumbled on radios. what are radios?
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Radio is what gives your phone signal. which version works best for you will depend on your location and carrier so you will just have to experiment. its generally advised that you flash the latest recommended version stated on the rom your using
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I have a kernel that i found that i want to flash. When you flash a kernel, does it replace a flashed ROM or do they combine?
Also, when you flash anything (ROM or kernel) does it replace the stock ROM or does it take a spot next to it? Can you make several spots so there can be more than one ROM? What is wiping out a ROM? If you leave a ROM, can you save your setting so when you go back you don't have to start over again? Can you back up contacts,messages, and apps from stock ROM and extract the data to the new ROM?
I AM CONFUSED
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1. No, they "combine"
2. It replaces it when you flash
3. Yes, but its more complicated than just flashing multiple roms. There is an app but it doesn't support Sensation.
4. Wiping a ROM is just that, wiping your phone of the ROM along with all your app,data and anything else on the phone(SD card not effected).
5. Umm. I don't understand your question completely but yes flashing a new ROM over an old ROM will preserve your data but you can flash a different rom and expect it to work. For example ARHD-->ARHD(updated) is OK but ARHD --> Insertcoin wont work.
6. Yes, its called titanium backup. Look it up.
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The only thing I'd add is that for:
o If you leave a ROM, can you save your setting so when you go back you don't have to start over again?
You can do a Nandroid backup from CWM recovery, it takes a snapshot of the ROM, Kernel, Data,.. You can then play with other ROMs. Then at a later date restore the Nandroid backup from CWM and you're back at the earlier ROM.
It's extremely important that when you play with ROMs you backup a working version. It saves a lot of swearing when you lose a nice working system unintentionally. It's happened a couple of times to me and it's a bugger.
I am about to flash my 1st ROM on my S3 and I had made a nandroid of my phone a cpl months ago when it was running great, I was copying that nandroid to my PC prior to flashing the new ROM and notice it is quite small, about 21MB. Is that the complete nandroid or is it in the "blobs"? I have 3300 folders in my blobs directory consisting of 7000 files and it is 3.27GB.
Do I need to backup that blobs folder and carry it everywhere the "nandroid" backup goes?
Lastly, if I flash TWRP will it overwrite CWM and does TWRP make reliable nandroids?
Thanks
the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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Thanks, I have 6.0.1.2, does the 6.0.1 you reference NOT have blobs?
TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Sounds like a perfect plan, I'll give it a go.
You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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No I did not realize that. When I was frustrated with CWM and was looking for a way to get rid of blobs, I couldnt find any info about this. Too late I'm afraid, no turning back from TWRP for me.
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You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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yes i know, but i like the blobs folder because backing up/ restoring is so much faster...its nice for bouncing back and forth between roms.
What the Blob files do is they keep copies individually of everything the nandroid backs up.... and when you go to do another backup it will read both blobs and current setup to see what, if anything is the same. Then it will only back up the differences and make reference to all the data that is the same.
And I dunno yet if I like the blob system better than the old way or not yet. Usually I only keep nandroids of the latest version of different ROMs.
Which is best for Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro)
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Use Safestrap on Droid Razr for 2+ years ,and loved it! the ability to immediately revert to Stock saved me many times while learning the ropes about roms, rooting, and flashing. I just got my hands on an old but new Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Toro). Owner installed KitKat Shiny Rom for GNex, via CWM Touch, but is now redeployed and difficult to reach UGH! So I have no way of knowing "what's next?" Rom works well, but I must say that Cm10.2 and CM10.3 were more inclusive than this AOSP version of pure Kitkat. But, is slim and sleek, and I want to get used to it, but I want to blow it up forst and start from scratch.
With my Raxr, I performed every step so I am familiar with installing TWRP and Safestrap for Razr, but have not tried it on a GNex? Can u advise if u have? Should I go from newest CMW to TWEP. The main reason I like TWRp is the ability too boot to stock if issues with Rom appear, ability to create "nandroid" backup, the ability to install several Roms on one system.
So, do ya think it's safe? Worthwhile? Thanks!
Few months back i flashed CM9 ROM by Elypson3 on my Moto Defy.Presently there is a new version of that ROM which i downloaded and flashed.I have Nandroid Backup of the previous ROM.After flashing the updated version of that ROM i am getting ROOT problems using Superuser.When i use the ALLOW all app the root permissions in Superuser,the apps does not allow the root(Tested onany apps including Titanium Backup Pro),but when i use the PROMT option in Superuser settings,the root works on all apps when i tap ALLOW button on promt.
Is there any problem in ROM or i have to ROOT my phone again?Also if anyone can post some simple steps to flash ROM freshly(like a very new ROM and not including a single bit of data from previous versions,like wiping data etc.) would be really helpful.
Go into superuser app & check for update. You can try to unroot, reboot, & reroot. Play around how you like, since you (smartly) made a backup.
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Go into superuser app & check for update. You can try to unroot, reboot, & reroot. Play around how you like, since you (smartly) made a backup.
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Thanks for the reply.Ya I had a backup and unfortunatly had to go back to that as the update had some changes which i didnt like .I have a question, how to flash the stock nandroid backup?I have the ROM and its Fixed SFB.So what to flash first ROM or SFB?And after flashing stock ROM and SFB will i be able to get back to CM9 using nandroid backup?
I have problems with SMS. I don't receive certain texts. just randomly.Anyone else with this problem?
Thanks for the reply.Ya I had a backup and unfortunatly had to go back to that as the update had some changes which i didnt like .I have a question, how to flash the stock nandroid backup?I have the ROM and its Fixed SFB.So what to flash first ROM or SFB?And after flashing stock ROM and SFB will i be able to get back to CM9 using nandroid backup?
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I don't know what SFB is, but I'm guessing you need it for the ROM to work on your phone? In that case, ROM first.
Nandroid backs up your whole phone's internal memory, so restoring will take you back to whatever state your phone was in when you made the backup. The contents of your SD card are not included in the backup.
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I don't know what SFB is, but I'm guessing you need it for the ROM to work on your phone? In that case, ROM first.
Nandroid backs up your whole phone's internal memory, so restoring will take you back to whatever state your phone was in when you made the backup. The contents of your SD card are not included in the backup.
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Restored Nandroid ROM first and its rebooting again and again after Motorola logo.And cant go to cwm recovery too.What to do now?
Edit:Fixed.Thnx to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618718
Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
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Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
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As far as I know, all the CWM also back up the kernel but I do not know a tool to back up the kernel only but you can backup all system without data in custom back-up options.
As far as I know CWM does not backup the kernel. I believe TWRP is doing it.
Maybe you can also use this