Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
Reefius said:
Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
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As far as I know, all the CWM also back up the kernel but I do not know a tool to back up the kernel only but you can backup all system without data in custom back-up options.
As far as I know CWM does not backup the kernel. I believe TWRP is doing it.
Maybe you can also use this
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My phone is rooted, backedup with clockwork and I even used sprite backup to backup the phone just in case. I plan on flashing my phone for the first time with the Epic Experience rom since it seems to be the most popular.
I'm pretty happy with my phone's current state except the battery life once in a while. So after flashing with a custom rom how do I revert back and restore my phone to the "EXACT" way it is now?
Make a nandroid backup in clockwork, then you can go back whenever you like.
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Restore nandroid backup and flash stock kernel. You will most likely have to flash a non stock kernel for a custom rom, and even if you dont HAVE to, you will probably want to.
So to go back to stock, flash back to a stock kernel, and then restore the nandroid backup.
are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific
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are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific
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yeah its pretty self explanatory, boot into clockworkmod > backup. or you can choose backup current rom an rom manager if you use it. thats your nandroid system backup
that's just confusing. So basically, a nandroid backup is the backup creating using clockwork? lol if so, that was the first thing I did after I installed clockwork.
ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
A nandroid is a system restore basically. If you fubar something and can get into recovery you can restore that nandroid to exactly where the phone was before. You don't need to flash anything just be able to get into recovery.
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Thanks am, flashing one now just to see....
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ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
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A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
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A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
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ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
the2rrell said:
ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
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Yup, that would be a good idea - since if you restore the nandroid on an incompatible kernel, you'll have the phone be very unhappy. (Will refuse to boot.)
Much thanks E.........appreciate the time bruh.
this can be closed.
I completely failed here E, i tried to restore a nandroid. i loaded the Infusion GB Kernel then proceeded to restore the nandroid and just get boot loops no matter how i do it.
any thoughts??
Hmm I think I need to look at this later in the week. Starting to sound like Nandroid might be broken in red CWM.
i got it, but i had to load the Kernel - Rom - then do the nandroid. but that kinda of defeats the purpose in my eyes....lol
but yea, if you find something that would be cool to know E.
I am about to flash my 1st ROM on my S3 and I had made a nandroid of my phone a cpl months ago when it was running great, I was copying that nandroid to my PC prior to flashing the new ROM and notice it is quite small, about 21MB. Is that the complete nandroid or is it in the "blobs"? I have 3300 folders in my blobs directory consisting of 7000 files and it is 3.27GB.
Do I need to backup that blobs folder and carry it everywhere the "nandroid" backup goes?
Lastly, if I flash TWRP will it overwrite CWM and does TWRP make reliable nandroids?
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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Thanks, I have 6.0.1.2, does the 6.0.1 you reference NOT have blobs?
TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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the blobs folder is indeed specific to the nandroid backup you created...if you try to restore your backup with a different blobs folder, you will be greeted with a system error. i prefer cwm 6.0.1, it works with everything for this device. oh and yea you can flash back and fourth between recoveries, one just overwrites the other.
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Sounds like a perfect plan, I'll give it a go.
You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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No I did not realize that. When I was frustrated with CWM and was looking for a way to get rid of blobs, I couldnt find any info about this. Too late I'm afraid, no turning back from TWRP for me.
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You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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yes i know, but i like the blobs folder because backing up/ restoring is so much faster...its nice for bouncing back and forth between roms.
What the Blob files do is they keep copies individually of everything the nandroid backs up.... and when you go to do another backup it will read both blobs and current setup to see what, if anything is the same. Then it will only back up the differences and make reference to all the data that is the same.
And I dunno yet if I like the blob system better than the old way or not yet. Usually I only keep nandroids of the latest version of different ROMs.
Which is best for Samsung Galaxy Nexus (toro)
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TWRP makes perfectly fine nandroids. The blobs crap is what prevents you from moving/deleting individual nandroid backups. This is the reason I ditched CWM and only use TWRP now. When you frequently make backups, you need the ability to delete individual ones. What I did was load my stock nandroid that I wanted to keep, then flashed TWRP and made a new nandroid in that, and then flashed CWM again so i could go back to my current rom. Flashed TWRP once more and made another nandroid.
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Use Safestrap on Droid Razr for 2+ years ,and loved it! the ability to immediately revert to Stock saved me many times while learning the ropes about roms, rooting, and flashing. I just got my hands on an old but new Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Toro). Owner installed KitKat Shiny Rom for GNex, via CWM Touch, but is now redeployed and difficult to reach UGH! So I have no way of knowing "what's next?" Rom works well, but I must say that Cm10.2 and CM10.3 were more inclusive than this AOSP version of pure Kitkat. But, is slim and sleek, and I want to get used to it, but I want to blow it up forst and start from scratch.
With my Raxr, I performed every step so I am familiar with installing TWRP and Safestrap for Razr, but have not tried it on a GNex? Can u advise if u have? Should I go from newest CMW to TWEP. The main reason I like TWRp is the ability too boot to stock if issues with Rom appear, ability to create "nandroid" backup, the ability to install several Roms on one system.
So, do ya think it's safe? Worthwhile? Thanks!
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I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
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I have a couple of questions, been digging around xda and the web and found some conflicting answers...
1) Does a Nandroid backup also back up the kernel? I'm thinking about dabbling with some custom kernels, but don't want to potentially mess things up as well as have an easy way back to the stock kernel if I don't like the custom one for one reason or another.
2) What would happen if I made a Nandroid backup from recovery, did a full wipe (/data, /system, /sdcard, caches), rebooted then restored from the Nandroid backup?
I'm still pretty new to all this but I've done some reading and a wee bit of flashing & rooting on Nexus devices and the HP Touchpad. I also have an old TF101 that I'd really like to tinker with as well.
Thanks!
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I don't know much about kernel but I do know that Nandroid backup backups everything exactly where the phone is.
That means if you do factory reset and restore Nandroid backup it will restore everything from the day you made the Nandroid backup.
I hope it clarifies everything.
Let me answer your questions.
1. When you do a nandroid backup, it backs up everything. Including the kernel.
2. If you nandroid backup, factory reset your device then restore your nandroid backup. Your device will return to the same state you had it previously. You will have all your content, files and settings. However if you do a backup, then factory reset and reboot, your device will be wiped of everything but it will boot up. As if the device was just turned in upon purchase. Also note, if you do a backup, then wipe your device (factory reset) you will not lose your backup.
Just note, if you ever flash a ROM, even if the developer states there is no issues. MAKE A BACKUP, sometimes things go wrong.
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Thanks for the quick replies!
I was a bit confused about 2) because I read somewhere that if you make a nandroid backup of a stock ROM, then install a custom ROM (non-Stock based ie CM, PA or OmniROM) you must flash the stock ROM again before you can restore the nandroid backup, or else restoring the nandroid backup will not work. Is this true?
Consider the following example, say I:
-flash TWRP on my device and root
-make nandroid of stock, rooted ROM
-wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push a non-stock custom ROM .zip file and flash the custom ROM
-decide I want to return to stock, rooted ROM after a while
-Boot into TWRP, then wipe /data, /system, /sdcard and caches and reboot back into recovery
-ADB push my original stock, rooted nandroid backup to /sdcard while in reocvery
-restore nandroid backup
What would be the outcome of the above example? I'm very curious...but I'd like some advice before attempting something like this myself as I'm still kinda new to all this
BTW I'm now comfortable flashing back to stock using fastboot and the google facotry image to restore a Nexus device so I now know how to do this in case things go south. I'm just curious if this would work on a device where returning to a full stock state isn't so easy.
No you don't need to install anything to get back to the previous state. So if you had a stock rooted ROM, then backed it up. But you decided to flash, let's say. Cyanogenmod but you wished to return back to stock, you don't need to flash stock ROM, all you have to do is just wipe data and restore your backup.
And for the example.
The outcome would be, you would be resulted with a stock, rooted rom.
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Thanks again, krishneelg3 for the quick reply. Been wondering about this for a while.
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I'm considering trying out a different ROM on my T-Mobile Galaxy S2. I've done quite a bit of modifications to my stock 4.1 ROM.
I made a complete backup of my phone using TWRP recovery (both system & data backed up).
Now, if i decide that after trying someother ROMS, i decide to revert back to the stock ROM i was using, can i just restore my backup with TWRP Recovery and all my settings, apps, screens, etc. everying will be restored just like it was before i put another ROM on?
I've been very hesitant to try this for fear of needing to reconfigure everything again.
I assume everythig restores as original but i need confirmation.
Thanks.
James
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I'm considering trying out a different ROM on my T-Mobile Galaxy S2. I've done quite a bit of modifications to my stock 4.1 ROM.
I made a complete backup of my phone using TWRP recovery (both system & data backed up).
Now, if i decide that after trying someother ROMS, i decide to revert back to the stock ROM i was using, can i just restore my backup with TWRP Recovery and all my settings, apps, screens, etc. everying will be restored just like it was before i put another ROM on?
I've been very hesitant to try this for fear of needing to reconfigure everything again.
I assume everythig restores as original but i need confirmation.
Thanks.
James
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Yes, it does....if you do a full backup...
And by the way, questions belong in the Q and A section....cheers!