Best way to convert back to bone stock after custom roms? - Epic 4G Android Development

My phone is rooted, backedup with clockwork and I even used sprite backup to backup the phone just in case. I plan on flashing my phone for the first time with the Epic Experience rom since it seems to be the most popular.
I'm pretty happy with my phone's current state except the battery life once in a while. So after flashing with a custom rom how do I revert back and restore my phone to the "EXACT" way it is now?

Make a nandroid backup in clockwork, then you can go back whenever you like.
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Restore nandroid backup and flash stock kernel. You will most likely have to flash a non stock kernel for a custom rom, and even if you dont HAVE to, you will probably want to.
So to go back to stock, flash back to a stock kernel, and then restore the nandroid backup.

are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific

dannieboiz said:
are the steps to creating nandroid backup the same on the epic as others? I can't locate a tutorial for the epic specific
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yeah its pretty self explanatory, boot into clockworkmod > backup. or you can choose backup current rom an rom manager if you use it. thats your nandroid system backup

that's just confusing. So basically, a nandroid backup is the backup creating using clockwork? lol if so, that was the first thing I did after I installed clockwork.

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[Q] (Clockwork Mod) What is Nandroid Backup and How Does it Work?

This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
From my understanding, the backup backs up all the stuff on your phone EXCEPT for what's on the SD card.
The idea is that you do a back up. Then install a new rom that you want to try out. BUt you don't like it, so you just restore the backup and woolah! your old phone is back along with all your settings, data, etc.
I'm not sure why it's called a nandroid backup, but from what I gather, you can do it with clockworkmod, just boot into recovery. And use the backup and restore option.
That was my understanding as well. I just wasn't sure on the situation with the user data (or the backup in general really). So all it takes is a nandrid backup to revert back to (rooted) stock?
A Android backup takes all the files on your device and saves them as a data.img,system.I mg,cache.I mg,user data,and recovery.img. It is also restorable through fastboot. It can also get you out of a tough spot. Say you are messing with a new theme and it causes your device not to boot up or causes unwanted problems. You can restore a backup to a time when your device was working correctly.
saintmagician said:
From my understanding, the backup backs up all the stuff on your phone EXCEPT for what's on the SD card.
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this is true unless you do a nandroid+android_secure backup. this also backs up your external app data
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes you're correct. You can restore but just remember some app might have ext data in sdcard. If you don't delete it, when you restore you'll get the same as before
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rootfan said:
A Android backup takes all the files on your device and saves them as a data.img,system.I mg,cache.I mg,user data,and recovery.img. It is also restorable through fastboot. It can also get you out of a tough spot. Say you are messing with a new theme and it causes your device not to boot up or causes unwanted problems. You can restore a backup to a time when your device was working correctly.
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So if you want to restore say just your data can you just delete the images you do not wish to restore from the backup folder and it will just keep the ones you have? Or won't it work at all if you start deleting images?
rfp101 said:
So if you want to restore say just your data can you just delete the images you do not wish to restore from the backup folder and it will just keep the ones you have? Or won't it work at all if you start deleting images?
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i wouldnt tamper with a nandroid backup, but if you have clockwordmod recovery, that is possible. clockwordmod recovery gives you the option to restore one of those images (but only one at a time).
does a nandroid backup include your kernel?
Pender1 said:
does a nandroid backup include your kernel?
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It does! It's a compelete "snapshot" of your phone with all apps/settings etc.
Does it also backup the stuff which has been stored on the external ext2-Partition, which is mounted to enlarge the space for apps?
Same with restore of this nandroid-backup. Will it also place the backup again to the same space?
As I know there's a (symbolic) link put into /data which might get problems.
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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its back up all yore staff and programs so if u will back to the backup it eill be exactly the same as beafore
If you install another ROM with different kernel and then you want to go back to nandroid backup, does it work ?
Nandroid backups
I was wondering if the framework is saved as well. I recently updated to the ICS firmware and am wondering if I restore with a backup from the old GB firmware will that be restored as well or will it still stay on the ICS? From my understanding ICS firmware will run previous versions
will nandroid backup (made from cwm) un-brick your phone if say, you installed a custom rom via cwm and it bricked it?
dunngh said:
This is a noob question, but I have a bit of experience under my belt just so you don't have to worry too much about using "confusing" terminology.
I have rooted/ROMed many devices in the past and have heard guides talking about doing a Nandroid backup. My question is how exactly does it work? Say for example: I am on the stock ROM (rooted of course) and I do a Nandroid backup while on stock. If go to say Cyanogen and I don't like it can I just restore from my nandroid backup like I would flash any other ROM to go back to stock. And if that will get me back to stock does it also preserve all of the user data that was in that ROM when it was backed up?
Any other information about about nandroid backups would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes,It restores all data and apps nandroid backup is a mirror copy of your phone.after restoring you will get your previous stock ROM.
cheebs42 said:
I was wondering if the framework is saved as well. I recently updated to the ICS firmware and am wondering if I restore with a backup from the old GB firmware will that be restored as well or will it still stay on the ICS? From my understanding ICS firmware will run previous versions
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Interesting question. Anyone?
Snake X said:
will nandroid backup (made from cwm) un-brick your phone if say, you installed a custom rom via cwm and it bricked it?
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im not sure, i think nandroid backup will unbrick your phone as long as you can boot to recovery. atleast when i installed a roms pach it didnt fully boot, got stuck at bootanimation, no loop, just froze, then i got it back with nandroid backup
I have the latest CWM 5.xxx, but there is no Nandroid backup option.
but only those below';
- backup and restore and under it
- backup
- restore
- advanced restore
- backup to internal sd card
- advanced restore from internal sdcard
Where is NANDROID Backup?
sas_sas said:
I have the latest CWM 5.xxx, but there is no Nandroid backup option.
but only those below';
- backup and restore and under it
- backup
- restore
- advanced restore
- backup to internal sd card
- advanced restore from internal sdcard
Where is NANDROID Backup?
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all the options with the word backup are.
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NANDROID??

ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
A nandroid is a system restore basically. If you fubar something and can get into recovery you can restore that nandroid to exactly where the phone was before. You don't need to flash anything just be able to get into recovery.
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Thanks am, flashing one now just to see....
the2rrell said:
ok since we getting more roms and have hellraiser over there opening the door. i have ALOT of nandroid back ups.
now having never had to actually use one of these i wanted to know somethings.
is a nandroid like a Rom, i just have to flash over another rom, or from stock and boom i have that Rom back with all my apps and info.
or do i need to load up the rom then nandroid on top of that for it work??
just have never had a use, but i would like to go back to some of my prior setups.
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A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
Entropy512 said:
A nandroid will reflash system, data, cache - everything. The only thing a Nandroid won't flash is a kernel if you're doing a major change (e.g. Froyo to Gingerbread or either of those to CM7 - while it's also GB, it requires special kernels.)
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ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
the2rrell said:
ok with that said, you should flash the Kernel before the nandroid to make sure there is a compatible kernel there for the nandroid to use??
basically match up froyo roms and kernels and visa versa for BG before i decide to flash a Nandroid?
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Yup, that would be a good idea - since if you restore the nandroid on an incompatible kernel, you'll have the phone be very unhappy. (Will refuse to boot.)
Much thanks E.........appreciate the time bruh.
this can be closed.
I completely failed here E, i tried to restore a nandroid. i loaded the Infusion GB Kernel then proceeded to restore the nandroid and just get boot loops no matter how i do it.
any thoughts??
Hmm I think I need to look at this later in the week. Starting to sound like Nandroid might be broken in red CWM.
i got it, but i had to load the Kernel - Rom - then do the nandroid. but that kinda of defeats the purpose in my eyes....lol
but yea, if you find something that would be cool to know E.

[Q] Full backup/restore

I've had my sensation for a few weeks now. Still on stock room 2.3.3, no root.
I want to do a full backup and restore of the ROM, like a nandroid backup, before experimenting with other ROMs.
If I boot into the recovery/backup mode and do a backup, is that the same as a nandroid? Will it backup the entire ROM as is?
If so... if I then S-OFF, experiment with other ROMs, and then recover from that backup, would my phone still be S-OFF or would it revert back to S-ON?
I know the preferred method is to root and then do ClockWork Recovery, but I'm wondering if it's possible to do a full ROM backup before rooting.
Thanks.
MPenguin said:
I've had my sensation for a few weeks now. Still on stock room 2.3.3, no root.
I want to do a full backup and restore of the ROM, like a nandroid backup, before experimenting with other ROMs.
If I boot into the recovery/backup mode and do a backup, is that the same as a nandroid? Will it backup the entire ROM as is?
If so... if I then S-OFF, experiment with other ROMs, and then recover from that backup, would my phone still be S-OFF or would it revert back to S-ON?
I know the preferred method is to root and then do ClockWork Recovery, but I'm wondering if it's possible to do a full ROM backup before rooting.
Thanks.
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A nandroid backup is done using ClockworkMod rcovery, which means you need to S-Off and install CWM before you backup. This will be a full backup of the phone at that point and would allow you to restore to that same point.
So what is the difference between the nandroid/ClockWork backup and the backup done after holding the volume down and starting the phone?
The latter only backs up contacts/settings/etc?
MPenguin said:
So what is the difference between the nandroid/ClockWork backup and the backup done after holding the volume down and starting the phone?
The latter only backs up contacts/settings/etc?
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When you hold the Volume down and Power button, it takes you to the HBoot screen. If you select Recovery, that takes you to the Recovery mode. If you have ClockworkMod installed, you will get a recovery menu which has the backup and restore options ands this is a nandroid backup. I have never seen the standard HTC recovery screen, so I don't know if there is a backup/restore option or not. Every thing I have read about nandroid backups has been in reference to CWM and that's the way I have always done it on my 3 HTC devices.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm always eager to learn.

[Q] about nandroid back stock and rooted

i have a nandroid stock rom backup i did it when my phone is not yet rooted.
now i successfuly flashed hybridrom v2.1 in my phone.
my question is
1. is it ok to restore the nonrooted stockrom back up in my phone?
2. should i delete phone data ang cache before restoring the backup?
3. what cw recoverry mod i'll use in my SGY? ive found out thre are lots of ver its confusng .
i'm just new with andriod its almost a month that ive got this phone so any help from you guys is much appreciated!
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1. IMHO, you should extract necessary settings or data and restore to your new rom. You can use AppExtractor
2. No need to delete everything before restoring
3. Your choice. There is touch version out there. Try and love it
beth22 said:
1. IMHO, you should extract necessary settings or data and restore to your new rom. You can use AppExtractor
2. No need to delete everything before restoring
3. Your choice. There is touch version out there. Try and love it
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Thanks for your reply i really appreciate it.
i was saying that if i wana go back to my stock rom (original rom) wich is not rooted can i restore it using CW?
if i flash back to my stock nandroid backup using CW my phone will not be rooted and it will restore the default samsung rom?
its just my theory though i haven't tried it yet i`m asking question like this for my future reference
Well...
Yes your device wont be rooted and will return to the stock rom.
Since the nandroid backup copies the whole partition. just like Norton Ghost does on the pc, so your phone will just go back to its exact status it was at that time.
You wont need to wipe user data/factory reset, because of the data partition being restored by CW.
Well you are asking for a recovery. How did you make a nan backup if you have no recovery?
Or you used the stock one? if you used the stock one, aren't you able to use it to restore?
Or do you want a new more powerful recovery?
As in the previous post they mentioned, use the one you like, with the most options
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[Q] Complete backup including kernel

Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
Reefius said:
Is there a way to make a complete backup of my TF101, because as far as I know CWM does not include the kernel in the backup. I would like to try some ROM's and kernels, but before I start I would like to make a full backup of my tablet, so I can always restore it back to the state it is right now.
If there is a seperare tool to only backup the kernel, this would also be great
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As far as I know, all the CWM also back up the kernel but I do not know a tool to back up the kernel only but you can backup all system without data in custom back-up options.
As far as I know CWM does not backup the kernel. I believe TWRP is doing it.
Maybe you can also use this

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