[Q] B70 v2 bootloader question - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is the only thing that we owners of locked devices is wait for a leaked key, or is there something else i can do to try to support people that could get it working? i love my tf but am sad i cant get root to the point where i almost want to return it ><

I'd go to stores around you, look for a B70KAS15 or below (to be safe...i believe the consensus is that lower B70KAS devices can root), and once you find one, return your old one.
From what i understand, there are a few people working on a way around this (or they have the new SBK--but even with the new one, they've made it harder to use).
All in all,you'll have to decide if you want to risk waiting (there's always small chance something could go awry, right?).
I see nothing wrong with going to look around and find if you can find an older B70, or anything like that.

Unrooting B70/B80 is a work in progress, check androidroot.mobi

But if I were you, I'd look for a TF with B50 or B60, then you can root your tab for sure (I did the same and was able to get a B50. A friend of mine got a B70 which can't be rooted yet).

I bought via amazon, i dont really want to return it to pay more local+tax for a maybe :/
Im new to this group of devs, how reliable is it to expect those guys at androidroot.mobi to come through and not can it haflway through? just to be clear, this question is in no way meant to be deragotive towards those guys, i just know some devs disappear (which is totally cool) and some stick around forever.

darkrangr said:
I bought via amazon, i dont really want to return it to pay more local+tax for a maybe :/
Im new to this group of devs, how reliable is it to expect those guys at androidroot.mobi to come through and not can it haflway through? just to be clear, this question is in no way meant to be deragotive towards those guys, i just know some devs disappear (which is totally cool) and some stick around forever.
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RaYmAn posted the SBK on twitter the first time.
bumble-bee and RaYmAn were also behind the previous roots, using a temproot and blobs

lilstevie said:
RaYmAn posted the SBK on twitter the first time.
bumble-bee and RaYmAn were also behind the previous roots, using a temproot and blobs
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+1
Without RaYmAn and Bumble-Bee's efforts none of us would be using blobs and nvflash on our Transformers.

well im glad that us poor souls are in good hands

i agree, this will allow us to have the full potentiol for all transformers

Related

Looking for a couple brave testers

So I just bought a Slide on eBay, but I wanna go ahead and get things started.
I can do most of the work I think right now before the phone (since it's Sense 3), but I'll need a few brave testers with ADB knowledge and who aren't afraid to flash things.
Somebody help this bro out, he does good work.
You should try this forum:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/mytouch_4g_slide?view=all
It seems like most of the people on here like our phones and want to root and rom them, while the people on the t-mobile forum want to complain and cry. I'm sure you'd have pretty good luck on there lowballing someone for their phone!
Got one on eBay a couple of minutes ago. See you guys on the other side . Thanks for the replies.
Sweet can't wait to see what you can do with this phone!
If you don't mind me asking, how much was it on eBay?
I currently have a MT3GS I bought from Craigslist awhile back - got a pretty good deal from someone who decided he'd rather have an iphone, it came with the original box and all the stuff.
Been debating on whether it was worth an update to a 4GS.
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Sweet can't wait to see what you can do with this phone!
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Check out my Sensation ROM (link is in my sig)
Brew78 said:
If you don't mind me asking, how much was it on eBay?
I currently have a MT3GS I bought from Craigslist awhile back - got a pretty good deal from someone who decided he'd rather have an iphone, it came with the original box and all the stuff.
Been debating on whether it was worth an update to a 4GS.
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It was $340... it said it was refurbished so I jumped on it. That's just around the price range I was looking for, too (extremely hopeful price range).
$400 seems to be the area in which the used ones are selling for...
Romanbb said:
Check out my Sensation ROM (link is in my sig)
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I did, and I LOVE it! Man if you ported that to our phone I would be eternally grateful, and your phone would have cost you a little less $$$ if you know what I mean
unclespoon said:
I did, and I LOVE it! Man if you ported that to our phone I would be eternally grateful, and your phone would have cost you a little less $$$ if you know what I mean
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I updated the OP. If anyone is interested please post here.
I'm going to start porting some of the features today and need some testers .
Romanbb said:
I updated the OP. If anyone is interested please post here.
I'm going to start porting some of the features today and need some testers .
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You know I'm in!
I've been one of the ones to dive in headfirst around here so i'll help as I can.
This week, and next, are gonna be real tight on time for me. I still have a few threads around here I have to update...and just can't get more then a few minutes in front of a terminal at a time.
When I get the chance to update my threads, I can sit here and have the phone installing (or whatever) while I do.
Glad to see another dev jumping into the pool here with the MT4GS - it's a sick piece of hardware.
Your list has made it incredibly easy to list out all the apps (I usually have to go through them one by one and try and figure everything out, usually takes 1-2 hours per phone )
Anyways, I can't test it as I don't have the phone yet but Bloater should be setup for it. At least for the apps and stuff. I'll have to add WiFi calling later.
Test it out and let me know what works and what doesn't. I tried not to include anything I wasn't sure about or anything that could be potentially harmful to remove.
If it doesn't recognize something as installed or uninstalled it just means my MD5s mismatch what it was expecting, easy fix.
Install it as a normal APK
I can new a lab rat if needed as I still haven't committed to this as a dd
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I'll be willing to test!
Are any of you guys familiar with IRC? This may be easier to do everything there instead of posting back and fourth.
We could try #mt4gs @ freenode
Other than that, I may have my statusbar mods ported today. Just need to fix the resource IDs up I think. I'll need to have someone test.
I'm using Paul's deodex as a base for now since I couldn't find an RUU. So if anyone is running that, you'll just have to flash two files over to test if this works or not .
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=mt4gs
Someone join so I can use you as a test dummy!

[Q] any news about sbk V2?

Hi,
I know i'm asking again this question, but i'm wondering if the devs can ,one day, found the sbk v2 key.
I want to know it, even if it s in one month or more.
Because i dont know if i have to sell my tf b80k and buy à rootable devices.
Thanks
You're asking about something that might or might not happened in the future.
I'm sure a lot of other peoples would like to see the new SBK discovered but
there's no sure answer right now.
I've heard it will happen at 12:20 PM CST on Dec 12, 2011.
well... I can tell you, that SBK v2 has been found by @DroidRay, but he won't share it as he was told not to. But he's working on another root-method which probably will be released in a not so distant future
source: http://androidroot.mobi/2011/08/26/b70-and-beyond/ and some tweets
thanks for your answers,
i know it might not happen and i know about DroidRay, BUT, as he said
Be patient, we are close to root on B70 and possibly B80 (if SBK is the same!).
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The B70 is about to be rooted but B80 maybe not.
That's why i'm asking this question, if a dev working on it could just tell us if they can ,in the future or not, root the B80k.
I have one week to send back my transformer, if it can't be rooted i'll send it back and buy an iconia i think.
How are they supposed to know this? I would send it back and get something else. I'm sure they will gain root on the B80 but there is no way they can give you an ETA. It could happen tomorrow or in 6 months. Rayman(DroidRay) is the personyou need to watch for this but you don't seem to like his answer
I'm aware that it could take 6 months, i just wanted to know if a dev have an answer, if they found that b80 is the same sbk as b70 and if they have something.
Sorry if i seem to be rude, it wasn't my intention. I know those guys are doing this for free and I admire them for that, i'm just confused by this new sbk.
I'll try to PM Rayman, thank you

[Q] What's the progress on SBKv2 devices?

Hi there,
A few months back (pre prime) people were quite active on getting nvflash to work for SBKv2 devices. Now lately I barely hear news. I'm quite curious: is this dead? or is work still being done?
I really would love to get ubuntu running as atm I feel android is quite limited as a tablet OS.
Wrong section, I'm afraid...
djmulder said:
Hi there,
A few months back (pre prime) people were quite active on getting nvflash to work for SBKv2 devices. Now lately I barely hear news. I'm quite curious: is this dead? or is work still being done?
I really would love to get ubuntu running as atm I feel android is quite limited as a tablet OS.
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As curious as I am about this too it is non the less the wrong section post in general or q & a
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This thread with it's replies confuses me. Was this initially posted in Android Dev? That would make sense
Nevertheless, the question still remains. I haven't heard anything about SBKv2. I wonder if it's not a lack of effort, but rather just a difficult, difficult task. You would have to ask the guys over at androidroot.mobi really...
I would like also to know were is the sbkv2.
2 questions:
- how was the first sbk key found? from what I understand it is saved in the hardware someplace that it is not readable, so there is no way it can be extracted. maybe the first was leaked from and insider as Asus? or was just the default for the tegra?
- any chance asus will provide an unlock tool for the TF101 with the one they will release for the Transformer Prime?
It was leaked.
I think it might be time to petition Asus for the rights to our device. It worked for the TF201 owners. And honestly, its ridiculous to say we shouldn't be able to know the SBK (and I'm willing to void warranty for that)
Thanks for the replies and yeh it's sadly as I feared. I guess we need to start a petition about it.
And about the mispost, yeh... kinda was in doubt when posting. As well the question IS development related my humble apologies for the mistake
btw seeing I have a dock-drain on my transformer I mailed em.. also with the inquiry about the SBK let's see how they respond
Hi everyone!
I´m also curious about that same thing, and I would be happy to sign a petition =P.
yea, noone knows whats going on?
Bump.
Look at FP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518552
15 day old Transformer. Nvlfashable. Wtf. Have I missed something?
josteink said:
Bump.
Look at FP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518552
15 day old Transformer. Nvlfashable. Wtf. Have I missed something?
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Just luck, he must have got an sbk1 device, there is no sbk2 nvflash yet.
Where I got mine, the demo unit was B50, while the one I got was BC0KAS, I had the option to get the demo unit but It was there since few months, and many many touched and played with it, which is not very good for me.

Sorry...but NONE of the current rom devs have a clue!

I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this blah blah blah, yada yada yada
Ummmm.......team eos is Roach2010 (plus some others)
Strange person
Is the droid in your avatar breakdancing or did he trip up and land on his head??
scottyf79 said:
Ummmm.......team eos is Roach2010 (plus some others)
Strange person
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I'm not strange, I am sick and tired of wiping and installing some wanna be rom and have my tf101 reboot every single time the Wireless tries to startup. Testing is key when releasing something you hope others will use...and that is just not being done.
TeamEOS is not Roach2010...he only just starting developing with them. Until I seem a full on, tested, release from them with his Stamp of Approval. I won't believe it.
All the others are amateurs, noobs, and don't bother testing on every model or documenting the fact that they only tested on model a, model b, or model c.
I tried all of the AOSP roms yesterday and none of them had any issues with wifi. They all had excellent stability. But my TF is B70 sbk 1.
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All the others are amateurs, noobs, and don't bother testing on every model or documenting the fact that they only tested on model a, model b, or model c.
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Develop your own then, or quit complaining. You flash these at your own risk, even a thoroughly tested ROM can brick your particular device..also, how do you think the devs TEST these on every device type? They release it here so WE can HELP by reporting bugs back to them and then they FIX them. ICS has been out for barely a month, and the STOCK ICS is full of bugs as it is, why do you expect devs who do it on their own time to be any better than Asus is when they are a corporation?? Wow that was a disrespectful post...
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I tried all of the AOSP roms yesterday and none of them had any issues with wifi. They all had excellent stability. But my TF is B70 sbk 1.
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Thats super great and I am very happy for you. That doesn't help me. I have a B60, and none of them work on it. My main complaint is that none of the devs bother to report which models their rom is tested on.
They are such noobs that they just compile and release and claim the blanket "oh we are not responsible for .... " crap. When they are responsible when they don't document which models they have tested on. They are responsible when they don't give all possible information to people so they can make educated decisions.
This I am not responsible crap is just a way of saying I may or may not be a ****ty developer, and if you find out I suck...its not my problem.
Its no wonder so many people flock to XDA and other site and beg for donations...because they could never make it in the real world as a developer where making quality software was how they eat and pay bills.
I think XDA should vet any developer before just letting them on the forums to release whatever. Sorry, but with all the phone/tablets out there...the room for crappy devs is just growing. Now is the time to start qualifying people.
Anyway...who cares right. "Oh mine works" sorry yours doesn't!
So you expect all of the devs to have every available hardware versions of TF101? That's ridiculous. Maybe send them your TF if you want them to test their ROMs on it?
They do this for FREE. If the ROMs don't work for you, too bad. Not sure how you can complain about something that is completely free. No one is forcing you to use the ROMs.
Think this thread is just to create drama.........
If the op had a sensible case to argue then it would be interesting.
Like its been said before - i have a b40 and ive tried them all with no issues - so theres a 40 & 70 tried and tested........maybe porking the micro sd slot isnt doing your tf any favours.
Going to test out the ignore feature again bet it works as well.
Thread needs binned.......its even in the wrong sub section
horndroid said:
So you expect all of the devs to have every available hardware versions of TF101? That's ridiculous. Maybe send them your TF if you want them to test their ROMs on it?
They do this for FREE. If the ROMs don't work for you, too bad. Not sure how you can complain about something that is completely free. No one is forcing you to use the ROMs.
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Exactly. It's just a hobby for most developers, and none force you to use them. Get another tablet if you're seriously going to complain about the developers work you choose to use.
I've tried AOKP, CM9, Revolver, and Android Revolution, and other than flashing non-stock overclock kernels (which don't work with wifi, apparently) I've had no more problems than stock ICS (Sleep of Death, etc etc)
Also, where is OP's magic ROM that works on every version of the TF101, TF101G, and SL101??? I'd love to give it a shot!
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This I am not responsible crap is just a way of saying I may or may not be a ****ty developer.
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I say again, if it's so easy, why are you even flashing ROMs other people made..make your own and shut up.
gVibeR said:
I think XDA should vet any developer before just letting them on the forums to release whatever. Sorry, but with all the phone/tablets out there...the room for crappy devs is just growing.
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First point, they are called 'recognized developers'. Don't download anything that isn't from a recognized developer..sounds like a failure on your part there..
Second point..crappy devs = every dev when they start. It's called a learning curve. This is where we learn. You want polished software, stick with a stock ROM. They have the money to put into PAYING developers to FIX EVERY SINGLE BUG before they release it, oh, and they also EMPLOY BUG TESTERS..
Get off your soapbox. And close this thread already..you are wrong, and being rude. XDA isn't for you, that's obvious. Stick with stock ROMs and you will be happy (LMAO).
So if youre so much better than all the current rom devs, why dont you cook up a completely bugfree rom, tested on all TF models, in your free time, without getting paid?
If asus themselves, who have the resources and hired coders, cant sort out the random reboot issue, why the hell do you expect a group of enthusiast, who code in their spare time mostly for fun, to magically sort it out?
Get down to earth and get a grip on how coding works before flaming.
i normally wouldn't bother giving such post a thought. but its ridiculous to be complaining about something you are getting for free. these devs put in TIME and EFFORT to make something. SO what if there are bugs here and there. almost every piece of software out there has bugs. even the paid ones. And its certainly not an easy task to test every combination of a software.
Yes it can be frustrating having a ROM give you so many issues. But unless you are going to hire them as your personal programmer dont complain. or maybe give up some of your own time to read through their source code and help find the bugs.
XDA is a forum where people HELP one another. We know what it means to have an OPEN environment. We should be appreciative that there are devs willing to make ROMs for our devices and SHARING it with everyone.
off course your solution is to sell your TF and get an iCrap
gVibeR said:
I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Yeah, and we all know how stable YOUR ROM is, huh? Oh wait, you haven't released a ROM, have you??
Hmm, there is a thought- create the 'perfect' ROM yourself if it's so easy!
Unbelievable.... I cannot believe how un-appreciative and immature some of the people are around here!
gVibeR said:
I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Hi there I own a B60 and have 3 different roms that will work on it and 1 that has no reboots at all also found an oc kernel that is playing nicely for now.
You can't put issues down to what model you have if the same car is manufactured 5 years in a row not to much is gonna change and base parts can usually be swapped.
I mean I have the same model as you but I may just be able to tweak a rom to work on mine where on yours it has issues or visa versa.
You seem to forget that icys is new and that even completely stock TF101 icys has issues at the moment. I think if anything the devs here are trying to find solutions and actively working quicker than the Asus company themselves also they dont have to go through all the stuff Asus has to to get an update out. Most of the devs here have done great work and have continued to support and develop from honeycomb they could of just left when icys arrived. I mean some are new but a few are not and are well respected.
1st You have a B60 tried a clean NVflash ?
2nd With your wireless are you using the right kernel on the right Rom? Are you doing things correctly?
3rd If its just compile and done do you think cm9 would be making progress?? Do you think modified stock would be as quick or have etc?
4th Kernels are not exactly an easy thing to build or improve on so you cant expect rock solid with everything at the moment its to early!!!!!!
5th Most of these guys have day jobs or university the fact they even do this is huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think maybe you should calm down have a rethink and suss it out or ask for help or maybe move away from custom and rethink what hardware/software you want to use
Sorry for the long post guys but had to answer such an insulting set of comments
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Hah everyone and their mom taking a shot at the OP because he made it just too easy and irresistible. This could be a very subtle troll.
This is just rude and obnoxious!
This is basically a devoper site. They make it, you test it.
And get your facts straight! There's an issue in the kernel that not everyone experiences. The source is out and people are trying to pin down the reboot issues.
If ya don't like to test and contribute to finding the issue, then go to some other site and whine there. Make your own damn kernel from the source and find the issue yourself!
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IT IS OVER/UNDER time.
I say this thread will be closed by 2:00pm (14:00)pm US Eastern time.
NOW Go!!!!!
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I say this thread will be closed by 2:00pm (14:00)pm US Eastern time.
NOW Go!!!!!
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You lose. It's closed now.
gVibeR said:
I don't care what kind of flaming I get from this, but I am just sick and tired of taking a chance on the current list of developers for the TF101 only to find that my pad ends up in a continuous boot loop with constant Wireless module issues.
I think that if you haven't tested your rom on every possible model of transformer that you should note that, and make it very clear that anyone with a model not tested should take caution.
Yes..I am talking to you sportstart89, ricardopvz, teameos, timbit123, and whoever else thinks that by just compiling a rom, adding Superuser is all it takes to make it in this scene.
I have tried all of them on my B60 transformer...and every last one of them has a crashing Wireless with constant reboot loop.
THE ONLY ROM THAT IS STABLE ON MY PAD IS STOCK WITH VIPERMOD ROOT.
I'm done with all you amateurs.
I want my Roach2010 back!!
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Blasting people who do what you are seemingly unable to do is wrong, and does not belong at XDA. We exist for the developers, and if you don't want to provide a decent amount of respect, you can leave.

[Q] 4.3 downgrade??

I was going through the 4.3 update discussion thread and came across twitter links to a possible downgrade from 4.3 to 4,1,2. Anyone have any new information on this? Is this true, and if so how can you do this.
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I was going through the 4.3 update discussion thread and came across twitter links to a possible downgrade from 4.3 to 4,1,2. Anyone have any new information on this? Is this true, and if so how can you do this.
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https://twitter.com/MobileTechVids/status/454103612721860608
heres the tweet
Moved to Q&A.
Let's not be fooled here one of two things are happening. Either it is a trick to get followers or they mistakenly "downgraded" a 4.3 rom that already had the insecure boot loader and are trying to figure out why it won't work again. There is no reason why the haven't put up the links already. I'm betting its a trick but who knows? Deep down inside I hope they figured something out.
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Let's not be fooled here one of two things are happening. Either it is a trick to get followers or they mistakenly "downgraded" a 4.3 rom that already had the insecure boot loader and are trying to figure out why it won't work again. There is no reason why the haven't put up the links already. I'm betting its a trick but who knows? Deep down inside I hope they figured something out.
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MobileTechVideos is a very renown website and Josh Groce is a very respected developer. He wouldn't try to "trick" anyone to believe something like this isn't true. Also, there is a reason he wouldn't put up any links because this wouldn't be something that can be done on the software level. It's most likely a hardware mod and requires JTAG.
Could he have been mistaken and jumped the gun on this announcement? Possibly. However it wouldn't be something as simple as not realizing the phone already had an insecure bootloader. He knows what he is doing.
To get a taste of the stuff he does check out some of his youtube videos. Here's an example:
BattsNotIncld said:
MobileTechVideos is a very renown website and Josh Groce is a very respected developer. He wouldn't try to "trick" anyone to believe something like this isn't true. Also, there is a reason he wouldn't put up any links because this wouldn't be something that can be done on the software level. It's most likely a hardware mod and requires JTAG.
Could he have been mistaken and jumped the gun on this announcem ibly. However it wouldn't be something as simple as not realizing the phone already had an insecure bootloader. He knows what he is doing.
To get a taste of the stuff he does check out some of his youtube videos. Here's an example:
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I retract my last post. I took a look down in his Facebook posts and he accidentally found a way to downgrade. So call me crazy but you don't accidentally stumble across a fix like this if it requires a hardware mod and I thought jtag was proven to not work because of the efuse or qfuse or whatever its called. From the "feel" of his post he did a repair he has done before that works with both the 4.1.2 and 4.3 boot loader and didn't realize he mixed the two up until the customer told him he was on 4.3 before sending it in. I'll be the first to admit I know nothing about bootloaders and there operation. Perhaps he bypased the fuse by removing and programing the chip directly and that is his normal repair operation instead of jtag and that is why it worked? No matter what it is I am happy he figured it out and hope he gets a lot of business out of it. Sorry for my ramble I probably didn't need to post all of that but its done and I don't feel like deleting it.
This is really exciting news, but I hope he updates soon. If he is wrong, I would not be mad but would rather know sooner than later. Right now, it's just a big tease
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This is really exciting news, but I hope he updates soon. If he is wrong, I would not be mad but would rather know sooner than later. Right now, it's just a big tease
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He did it three times on three different phones so I'm sure he is correct.

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