unroot unvoids your warranty - Thunderbolt General

Called Verizo about a battery problem...before they started to troubleshoot it, he knew I had the ROM DasBamf because I had a different software #. Offer to replace my TB but said it would cost $700. He said my next option was to unroot it and send it back to HTC for a free replacement. Mentioned that they look out for subscribers before charging them #verizonrules

Yeah I might have unrooted before making the call if I thought it was going to be a warranty issue.
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That's one of the reasons I have squaretrade.
Yes, I have to pay 75 as a deductible...but I can get a new phone if VZW balks for any reason..
But yes, I would've unrooted before trying to make a call...

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Exchange with t-mobile

I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I am sure this is the reason the owner sold it in first place, I bet the person gave you lame story about how he changed carrier or got it as gift or some BS and he already has something lol so he didn't need it.
This is why I warn folks about buying jack from eBay or Craigslist when first batch came out month ago that means alot of inferior device that shouldn't have passed QC got though. Your best bet is going via HTC device warranty as TMo itself will not honor yours as they have no proof of this device was valid transaction linked to your account. Also the remorse period is only though TMo not by 3rd party individuals.
Thanks for the reply Mr.HKM, He told me he had 2 of these and he wanted to get rid of it so I'm guessing he used the insurance company to get another by saying it was lost.
Is it worth a shot with T-Mobile? or Should I call up HTC tomrrow and see what they can do? The thing is, I don't want to be left phoneless though, that's the only thing that's going to be bad for me.
Would my best bet be selling it back on Craigslist and getting another one?
I bought my HD2 off craigslist and transfered my insurance to it by calling tmo and asking them if I could. It was originally the insurance I had on my touch pro 2. My nexus one was insured by that other company.
I never had to use it on the hd2 so I don't know how that would work. After I bought the MT4G I had the guy at the store transfer my insurance to it.
Its worth a shot calling tmo. From my experience they are wing willing to work with you.
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Maybe prick got it buy one get one free though adding family members with contract. Best place to buy it now is though TMo as like you I also considered buying it via CL/eBay but after I saw the rate of bad display, ffc, creaky buttons I decide it to just shall out the full $450 and get it without contract. Didn't want the hassle as I lost my HD2 and was left with dumbphone lol trust me its no fun.
Well this is what you can do just skip it all as TMo will not help you so just contact HTC rep and request RMA for it. While you are sending it go to local TMo store and get "loner" phone while its taken care of. You can contact the seller but I am sure the prick will ignore you as kid will be like its your problem now.
Update: Do as MvP77 said then first with TMo it won't hurt long as you get it taken care of if not then you become the prick and get it of your hand ASAP by selling it to someone else lol
Ugh I looked at T-Mobile website about device warranty under T-Mobile and it looks like you cannot transfer warranties from another customer. Pretty much bumed out at this point.
Should I post of on Craigslist asap and get rid of it and buy another one and risk getting a **** screen and or just keep this?
I flashed iced galicer on it and the screen comes on after a call so I'm just worried about the screen for now.
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I have known and helped people who bought through ebay or craigslist get a replacement through T-Mo. It's not a fool proof way but it has worked for some.
First thing is hopefully you are a T-Mo customer? Then don't use the online chat, call them on the phone. Just ask for Tech support. Here is what you are trying to accomplish, you need to get your IMEI # in their system to have a chance. So since this device came out with a OTA (Over the Air update) the same day it launched it is a plus for you. If your IMEI # is not in the system you will never get the update. So when you call and get to the rep just explain to him you are having some problems with very poor battery life and your video chat is not working properly, poor signal etc. Tell him you knew there was a OTA update but you have never received it, and you want to see if this will fix your problems first before deciding on a warranty replacement. If they ask you where you got it tell them you got it from a T-Mobile Store and you bought it full price. Whatever you do don't tell them craigslist. Stay firm on you buying it in a store no matter how many times they ask. Now the above might not even come up but be prepared in case. Noe tell the tech support rep could he please make sure that your IMEI number is correct in their system as you have never received the update. Your number might be in there and it might not. Likely it is not. I had one that was wrong for a whole month from when I changed from my G2. They will ask you for your number and give it to them. If they don't find it they will try to put it in. If the IMEI number is not in their database they will tell you also and ask where you bought it. Stick to the plan. Tell them you don't know why it's not in their system all you did is buy it in their store it should be in the system and you paid full price for it it better be in the system. now I have actually had this happen on one of my early replacements. And I really did get it from a store. They finally said they could manually enter it and override the system. Now if you get this done your almost there. Tell them thank you and you will be waiting for the update and hopefully it fixes the issues if not you will call back. Wait a day or two. The call back and when you here the automated attendant say cancel. This gets you to a higher level rep. Tell the about the problems and you are disappoint that you paid full price and now you have all these problems and the OTA update did not correct them. You are loosing data connection and they stay off for long periods of time. Tell them you have already been to a store and they changed your SIM card and that you have already talked to tech support and factory master reset with them twice and they said it is defective. You said you would give it another chance but it did not get any better. Now hopefully they will process you a exchange and send it to you and then you send yours back..
I hope this help and you get a good one. If all else fails go through HTC.
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I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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Sounds like a software bug. Try a factory reset before you do anything.
xdviper said:
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I've bought a few different phones off Craigslist and got them all exchanged through warranty. As long as its still under the manufacturers warranty they should exchange it. All they did was look up the imei to verify its still under warranty. This is my experience with T-Mob, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to exchange it. Now, if its a stolen or lost phone, they might not. Let us know how it goes for you. Hope you get a good one.
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This is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
Trust ME
as long as you have insurance which is 5.99 a month for the php bundle then it will cover the phone...just call in do troubleshooting and hey will replace it as long as there not liquid damage or physical damage....u dont pay anything not even shipping and hanlding
Alright, I'm going to give it a shot today.
This took ne at a surprise, I went and logged on to my T-Mobile and it shows the white mytouch as my phone... so I'm guessing they already know I have a mytouch?
so alright thanks for the replies everyone. I'll call in this afternoon and see what the deal is. Thanks.
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rodriguez27 said:
this is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
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i agree with you 100%
bobsbbq THANK you soo much for that detailed post and everyone else.
I called and told them about the screen not turning back after a phone call, and they went ahead and replaced it for me. I hope I get a good screen and one that turns on after a phone call. Thanks everyone
Told ya. Tmo customer service is excellent. I even got a watered damage G1 replaced.
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I can't express how.much I wanna say thank you. I just hope it comes before this 3 day weekend and with the Sony screen. Thanks guys.
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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For someone like me that switches phones alot and usually pays full or close to full price the insurance its nice. It would suck if it was like sprints insurance where you gotta pay a deductible.
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I think T-Mobile does also make you pay a deductible also. Not sure, but I do change phones a lot and not sure if insurance would cover non T-Mobile phones like the iPhone.
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Lockeskidney not everyone sells there soul by signing 2year contract and having to pay more than its actually worth. Now lets say this as I never considered insurance. I usually buy the device without contract at full price from valid vendor now if I lose it how much is the deductible? I am sure everyone ATM here some how doing insurance fraud false claiming it as lost.

My thunderbolt experience

April 28th I used my upgrade for this phone. It was great up until that first "update", then it was 5-10 reboots daily.
Since then I'm on my 3rd thunderbolt. I've had a store rep lie to me saying I needed to go back to the place I bought it at to get a replacement phone, same rep voided the warranty after they transfered service back to my D1. Then Verizon tried to charge me the $570 fee for not sending back my 2nd thunderbolt.
After all this hassle & frustration the local manager gives me a free extended battery. Almost worth the $310 to buy out my contract if this is what the future looks like.
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April 28th I used my upgrade for this phone. It was great up until that first "update", then it was 5-10 reboots daily.
Since then I'm on my 3rd thunderbolt. I've had a store rep lie to me saying I needed to go back to the place I bought it at to get a replacement phone, same rep voided the warranty after they transfered service back to my D1. Then Verizon tried to charge me the $570 fee for not sending back my 2nd thunderbolt.
After all this hassle & frustration the local manager gives me a free extended battery. Almost worth the $310 to buy out my contract if this is what the future looks like.
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Did you buy your phone from an authorized retailer or a Verizon company store? Lots of times, authorized retailers are only worried about a sale and not customer service.
I've also heard great things about Best Buy Mobile.
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I'm on my launch day TB, Never had a reboot, shut down, or problem rooting, flashing any rom, theme, font or sim failure. I am however in a Non 4g area.
Knock on wood.
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My wife and I both had our phones replaced. Mine is not as bad as hers but she can't hit the home button with out the phone freezing or loosing the touch functionality. Anyone know if its possible to swap for a different phone?
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My wife and I both had our phones replaced. Mine is not as bad as hers but she can't hit the home button with out the phone freezing or loosing the touch functionality. Anyone know if its possible to swap for a different phone?
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Call *611
If its a manufacturing defect then its covered. If you dropped it then I hope you have insurance.
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CanesDrew said:
Did you buy your phone from an authorized retailer or a Verizon company store? Lots of times, authorized retailers are only worried about a sale and not customer service.
I've also heard great things about Best Buy Mobile.
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I did buy it from a authorized retailer. Thing that frustrates me to no end is the customer service or better yet the lack of it. To have a rep knowingly activate my old phone thus voiding my warranty is beyond inexcusable.
Then the whole trying to charge me $570 for a device that I did send back, its almost like they want me to cancel my contract. I mean do I have to take a manager with me to fed ex to ship my old broken phone so they don't make the same mistake?
Maybe its too much to ask for that I get a working phone that I paid good money for & god forbid anything happens to it that they will try to help. Sorry that my phone broke & you have to spend 5 min helping me order a refurb. Perhaps if I tipped the rep then maybe they could help me even though its not a sale.
I had a crapload of problems after the MR1 OTA, including random reboots, overheating, crappy GPS, you name it. Instead of trying for a replacement, I re-flashed the full MR1 zip from my SD card, and all of my problems went away even when using MR1. MR2 made everything even better, although I'm no longer running a stock install.
My question is, have you guys tried re-flashing with the full RUU? It seems like a lot of the problems could be the result of a bad flash/faulty upgrade.
Great news! Now this phone is starting to reboot. Maybe its just time to root so my $300 phone will work

Change insurance deal?

I got my phone insurance through best buy ssome days ago. My phone is still perfect and new but now I realized I really want Verizon insurance instead. Is there any way I can change that? Maybe bring in the phone so they know nothing is wrong whatsoever just a bad decision I made?
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salas2324 said:
I got my phone insurance through best buy ssome days ago. My phone is still perfect and new but now I realized I really want Verizon insurance instead. Is there any way I can change that? Maybe bring in the phone so they know nothing is wrong whatsoever just a bad decision I made?
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I don't think you're contractually bound to Best Buy's insurance agreement, are you? As far as I remember, when I had it and had it voided by rooting my phone, I just called and cancelled it.
Just out of curiosity, what makes Verizon insurance better than Best Buy's?
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I don't think you're contractually bound to Best Buy's insurance agreement, are you? As far as I remember, when I had it and had it voided by rooting my phone, I just called and cancelled it.
Just out of curiosity, what makes Verizon insurance better than Best Buy's?
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If I lose my phone Verizon will replace it. Bestbuy won't take phones that are "drowned" and yes I know about cancelling I voided my warranty that way too but they don't know. I just wanna have peace of mind knowing if I get robbed Verizon will at least replace my phone
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salas2324 said:
If I lose my phone Verizon will replace it. Bestbuy won't take phones that are "drowned" and yes I know about cancelling I voided my warranty that way too but they don't know. I just wanna have peace of mind knowing if I get robbed Verizon will at least replace my phone
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By "drowned" I'm assuming you mean water damage. And if so, the Best Buy rep told me that if I chucked my phone into a pool and brought it in, they would replace it. That was about 2 years ago, so I don't know if that policy changed since then. Then again, I don't know if what the Best Buy rep said was true since I never needed to test him on it.
I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other. I just thought Best Buy did cover water damage is all.
Google has a lot of posts on people misinformed by bestbuy reps
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If I bought insurance on everything I purchased I would be insurance poor
salas2324 said:
I got my phone insurance through best buy ssome days ago. My phone is still perfect and new but now I realized I really want Verizon insurance instead. Is there any way I can change that? Maybe bring in the phone so they know nothing is wrong whatsoever just a bad decision I made?
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Yes, you are within your return window. Call and cancel your insurance with Bestbuy and take the phone into Verizon and have them activate insurance on your account. Considering I've worked for 3 wireless companies (including Verizon) as a sales rep in the past 5 years, you can take my word on it.
Also, if you root your phone, don't call any cancel like some idiot said he did here. If your phone breaks, drowns, or just quits working, then they will have no way of knowing. Most don't care anyways, because half of the reps root their phones too. Still to be safe, if problems occur, and the phone is still working (software, minor quality control issues), just simply unroot before taking the phone into the store.
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nikeman513 said:
Yes, you are within your return window. Call and cancel your insurance with Bestbuy and take the phone into Verizon and have them activate insurance on your account. Considering I've worked for 3 wireless companies (including Verizon) as a sales rep in the past 5 years, you can take my word on it.
Also, if you root your phone, don't call any cancel like some idiot said he did here. If your phone breaks, drowns, or just quits working, then they will have no way of knowing. Most don't care anyways, because half of the reps root their phones too. Still to be safe, if problems occur, and the phone is still working (software, minor quality control issues), just simply unroot before taking the phone into the store.
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THANK YOU-! And instead of calling can I just go to best buy and Verizon stores since they are in the same parking lot and will I have to show I'd or account info? So I can take the account holDer my brother in law
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nikeman513 said:
Also, if you root your phone, don't call any cancel like some idiot said he did here. If your phone breaks, drowns, or just quits working, then they will have no way of knowing. Most don't care anyways, because half of the reps root their phones too. Still to be safe, if problems occur, and the phone is still working (software, minor quality control issues), just simply unroot before taking the phone into the store.
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Hi, I'm the "idiot" that called and cancelled due to having a rooted phone. I have to admit that if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have cancelled but being a paranoid noob at the time, I didn't know any better since so many people were telling me that rooting could easily be traced back. I know that's not true now. Normally, I would take offense to someone calling me an idiot but that was an idiotic move I made 2 years ago. And just so we're clear, I was never suggesting to the op to do what I did; I was just making a point about how I cancelled my Best Buy insurance.

[Q] Jump with KNOX tripped?

Okay so I know that tripping KNOX voids the manufacturer warranty but how does it factor into Jump? My Note 5 is in excellent condition but as I'm running Darthstalker, KNOX is tripped. I've heard that recently T-Mobile has decided not to take KNOX tripped phones even if they have been fully restored to stock and they're fully functional and will force you to pay the insurance deductible. I am wondering who has experienced this? I won't pay the deductible, ill tell them where they can shove their deductible, leave, smash the Note 5, bring it in and leave it on the counter. My account was inherited from my roommate who passed away and still is in his name and his social so good luck if they try to come after me for payment but it seems like the reps would want the sale from the purchase of a new flagship (I'm looking at the HTC 10) more than a 200 dollar deductible costing them a sale. We all know Samsung can reset the KNOX counter and I don't even have so much as a scratch on my screen. T-Mobile has taken an unlocked M7 and unlocked M8 from me when it came time to Jump so if they changed their policy and check for indicators of a phone ever being modified, I'm going to flip. The battery on my Note 5 is on its last legs so I need to do something and carrying around a ZeroLemon brick isn't appealing. If it makes any difference, I'm on Jump 1 not 2 or JoD.
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Okay so I know that tripping KNOX voids the manufacturer warranty but how does it factor into Jump? My Note 5 is in excellent condition but as I'm running Darthstalker, KNOX is tripped. I've heard that recently T-Mobile has decided not to take KNOX tripped phones even if they have been fully restored to stock and they're fully functional and will force you to pay the insurance deductible. I am wondering who has experienced this? I won't pay the deductible, ill tell them where they can shove their deductible, leave, smash the Note 5, bring it in and leave it on the counter. My account was inherited from my roommate who passed away and still is in his name and his social so good luck if they try to come after me for payment but it seems like the reps would want the sale from the purchase of a new flagship (I'm looking at the HTC 10) more than a 200 dollar deductible costing them a sale. We all know Samsung can reset the KNOX counter and I don't even have so much as a scratch on my screen. T-Mobile has taken an unlocked M7 and unlocked M8 from me when it came time to Jump so if they changed their policy and check for indicators of a phone ever being modified, I'm going to flip. The battery on my Note 5 is on its last legs so I need to do something and carrying around a ZeroLemon brick isn't appealing. If it makes any difference, I'm on Jump 1 not 2 or JoD.
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I realize that your upset about your battery being on it's last legs especially because it is not easily replaced. But please don't flip-out on the store rep, they have no say in Tmobile policy it not their fault that Samsung decided to add Knox to their devices. Secondly the deductible is $175 for a tier 5 device see here: https://myphpinfo.com/t-mobile/general/view-all-deductibles?lang=en
Think of it this way. For $175 you can use jump to get a brand new device as opposed to paying full price upfront.
Lastly if your handy you might try replacing the battery yourself http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ery&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
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I realize that your upset about your battery being on it's last legs especially because it is not easily replaced. But please don't flip-out on the store rep, they have no say in Tmobile policy it not their fault that Samsung decided to add Knox to their devices. Secondly the deductible is $175 for a tier 5 device see here: https://myphpinfo.com/t-mobile/general/view-all-deductibles?lang=en
Think of it this way. For $175 you can use jump to get a brand new device as opposed to paying full price upfront.
Lastly if your handy you might try replacing the battery yourself http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ery&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=galaxy+note+5+battery+replacement+
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What will piss me off is that this policy change is new, that's my point. I've had Jump since a week after it launched and I've never had an issue but now apparently I might. I still find it hard to believe they will give up a sale and a 13 year old account though. I'm not paying 175 on top of the 140 a year I already pay just to have Jump AND the full cost of the phone, that's ridiculous.
For what it's worth, I have never once had T-Mobile say anything about a phone I've returned to them, under Jump or warranty claim. And I have rooted every single phone I've had since the original G1 came out, with perhaps 6 or 7 of them total being exchanged or turned in. I accidentally microwaved a phone a few years ago, and they sent a new one and told me to keep the busted one. Of course, your mileage may vary.
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For what it's worth, I have never once had T-Mobile say anything about a phone I've returned to them, under Jump or warranty claim. And I have rooted every single phone I've had since the original G1 came out, with perhaps 6 or 7 of them total being exchanged or turned in. I accidentally microwaved a phone a few years ago, and they sent a new one and told me to keep the busted one. Of course, your mileage may vary.
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Yeah I don't know where this info is coming from but I decided to Jump last night and tried it over the phone and they don't even ask. They ask you to disable phone security, if there's water damage, and if the screen is clean. They don't ask about anything else. The order failed on the phone but I did it online and it went through fine. I'm now in the backorder queue for an HTC 10. There is nothing on there that says anything about it either. It has the additional question about if it powers on when charged.
The only thing I can think of is T-Mobile has added some point of sale checks but Assurant doesn't have the time to check phones like that. I'm not going to use the Assurant USPS label though, I'm going to ship it with UPS so I know that it gets there. It's even going back in its original box. I don't foresee any problems so it must just be the stores because I've seen T-Mobile employees say that they do indeed check with some machine they have there. Obviously Jump through the mail is a bit of a pain in the backside, especially with the phone being back ordered but this way I'm following the terms on the website and I have two recorded phone calls as well if anyone tries to kick anything back down the line where I'm never even asked if the device is modified and since I'm going HTC, I'll have S-OFF so I can cover my tracks if anything happens in the future.
Man you guys are looking into this way too hard. Sales rep will say anything, literally. I had one say to me yesterday in the store that they used a Note 6 earlier that day. Umm, yeah.
Just put the phone to full stock and send it back.
By the way, Samsung either can't or won't reset the counter. That's why people get Knox tripped phones from T-Mobile and Samsung warranty. My last warranty claim was from Samsung and it came Knox tripped. Same thing with a lady whose phone I rooted, Knox was tripped before I did any flashing.
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Jammol said:
Man you guys are looking into this way too hard. Sales rep will say anything, literally. I had one say to me yesterday in the store that they used a Note 6 earlier that day. Umm, yeah.
Just put the phone to full stock and send it back.
By the way, Samsung either can't or won't reset the counter. That's why people get Knox tripped phones from T-Mobile and Samsung warranty. My last warranty claim was from Samsung and it came Knox tripped. Same thing with a lady whose phone I rooted, Knox was tripped before I did any flashing.
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Yeah the website doesn't ask about root or anything so if they were to try to kick it back to me, I'd have a really tight defense there considering every phone they've gotten from me before was rooted. Hell I've had T-Mobile store reps show me the custom ROMs on their phones before...
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Yeah the website doesn't ask about root or anything so if they were to try to kick it back to me, I'd have a really tight defense there considering every phone they've gotten from me before was rooted. Hell I've had T-Mobile store reps show me the custom ROMs on their phones before...
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Actually, they can send it back or hit you with a charge. The TOS literally states modification of the device voids everything. They even have the "right to cut your service if they want to" listed in there as well.
T-Mobile is just not worrying about it right now until it starts to cost them revenue.
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Jammol said:
Actually, they can send it back or hit you with a charge. The TOS literally states modification of the device voids everything. They even have the "right to cut your service if they want to" listed in there as well.
T-Mobile is just not worrying about it right now until it starts to cost them revenue.
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I understand T-Mobile can do whatever they want, all the carriers can, but if T-Mobile wants to enforce that policy they need to add the question "has your device been rooted or otherwise modified?" to both the website and the sales scripting. It isn't there. I live in a state where I can record any call for any reason without notifying the other party and I have a recorded call from trying to order it over the phone where I am not asked anything about modifications or read any terms. They told me that I needed to remove my fingerprints, asked about liquid damage and damage to the screen. I've got my bases covered but yeah, I think that T-Mobile really doesn't care, its just the stores that bother checking. I'd bet if I went to the Denver 16th Street Mall store that they would rush through it and not check because they are a high volume store and they'd be getting a new flagship sale too. Either way, I'll not be getting a Samsung device ever again. S-OFF let's me do what I want and restore the phone back to how it was out of the box when I am done so I won't have to worry about this anymore.
The most annoying thing is that the primary reason I root my phones is just to restore my apps and data. Resetting all of my authenticators just takes too much time. I've even been known to install a custom ROM and restore my data then permanently unroot it.
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I understand T-Mobile can do whatever they want, all the carriers can, but if T-Mobile wants to enforce that policy they need to add the question "has your device been rooted or otherwise modified?" to both the website and the sales scripting. It isn't there. I live in a state where I can record any call for any reason without notifying the other party and I have a recorded call from trying to order it over the phone where I am not asked anything about modifications or read any terms.
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Because the customer rep doesn't ask you and its not stated when going through the process doesn't make you exempt for the simple fact that signing the documentation means you have already agreed to the stipulations. Heck them accepting it one day and not accepting it another doesn't even imply you have a leg to stand on.
A contract is a contract is a contract. Just because someone paid 11.60 to answer phones in a call center doesn't ask if you are rooted doesn't mean they couldn't at some point decide to check. They also don't ask about 99.8% of the other stipulations called out. Doesn't mean they are null and void.
You already agreed to all the terms.
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EtherealRemnant said:
Okay so I know that tripping KNOX voids the manufacturer warranty but how does it factor into Jump? My Note 5 is in excellent condition but as I'm running Darthstalker, KNOX is tripped. I've heard that recently T-Mobile has decided not to take KNOX tripped phones even if they have been fully restored to stock and they're fully functional and will force you to pay the insurance deductible. I am wondering who has experienced this? I won't pay the deductible, ill tell them where they can shove their deductible, leave, smash the Note 5, bring it in and leave it on the counter. My account was inherited from my roommate who passed away and still is in his name and his social so good luck if they try to come after me for payment but it seems like the reps would want the sale from the purchase of a new flagship (I'm looking at the HTC 10) more than a 200 dollar deductible costing them a sale. We all know Samsung can reset the KNOX counter and I don't even have so much as a scratch on my screen. T-Mobile has taken an unlocked M7 and unlocked M8 from me when it came time to Jump so if they changed their policy and check for indicators of a phone ever being modified, I'm going to flip. The battery on my Note 5 is on its last legs so I need to do something and carrying around a ZeroLemon brick isn't appealing. If it makes any difference, I'm on Jump 1 not 2 or JoD.
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I used jump to go from my Note 4 to Note 5 with no problems. My N4 was rooted and Knox was tripped. Simply unrooted flashed the current tmo stock at the time and that was it. When I went in to jump all the rep did was look at the phone thenext bring up the dialer and dial some special number that did a couple checks I guess to make sure the phone was functional but she said ok everything checks out let's get you a Note 5. That was it. Now who knows what other stores are like but here in Ohio there is one store in my city that most device rooters go and never run into issues.
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I used jump to go from my Note 4 to Note 5 with no problems. My N4 was rooted and Knox was tripped. Simply unrooted flashed the current tmo stock at the time and that was it. When I went in to jump all the rep did was look at the phone thenext bring up the dialer and dial some special number that did a couple checks I guess to make sure the phone was functional but she said ok everything checks out let's get you a Note 5. That was it. Now who knows what other stores are like but here in Ohio there is one store in my city that most device rooters go and never run into issues.
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Yeah I opted to do it online. My HTC 10 was back ordered until yesterday, shipped today, will be here Monday.

Question about Tmobile insurance

Hi everyone.
So for the first time, I plumped for insurance. Because I am so paranoid about breaking that screen on my S8+.
I've never had it before (I had Apple Care on my iPhone) and am just curious as to your experiences of T-Mobile's plan. I was toying with going with Samsung's Premium Care because it says they deliver a replacement to your door, but the Tmobile guy convinced me to try theirs instead.
What I'm wondering is what happens if you break the screen? (I'm guessing people did this with the S7E and the S6E).. Say I call Tmobile and tell them, do they make me send the phone off for repair or do they ship a replacement out to me and then we swap? I'm used to Apple Care where they would take the deductible and then just replace in store.
I believe the Samsung one is near to that (not in store, but they deliver the replacement to you) so wonder how T-Mobile vary. If it's the kind of thing where they are going to make me wait weeks to have it fixed, I'll cancel it.
Thanks.
I've been. T Mobile customer since day 1. I've had the regular & jump insurance since I had my G1. I've only had to replace my phone 2 times since then. Once from theft and once from cracked screen both times i had to pay the premium which was around $100-$200 depending on the price of the phone. Once the replacement comes you send them the broken one. This time around I am trying out Samsung's Insurance.
My insurance is included with my jump 1 program. T-Mobile uses a third party insurance company called Assurant. The deductible for for my S7 flat was $175. As the previous poster said, you fork out the dough, they send you a new or refurbished device along with a return shipping label. The newer the phone, the more likely you are to receive a brand new and not a refurbished device. The more expensive these devices get, the higher your deductible is going to be. I've never used another insurance before.
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T mobile is doing it a bit different now for some reason if your device has defects they send the replacement to a tmobile store where they will inspect your phone before they give you the replacement its happen twice like this that ive seen . My sister just did it they just charged her the 5 dollar shipping fee since it was hardware issue but the guy said that their insurnace claims will be handled like that from now on , waste of personal time IMO but i guess saves them money from people trying to pull a fast one
MacTheRipperr said:
My insurance is included with my jump 1 program. T-Mobile uses a third party insurance company called Assurant. The deductible for for my S7 flat was $175. As the previous poster said, you fork out the dough, they send you a new or refurbished device along with a return shipping label. The newer the phone, the more likely you are to receive a brand new and not a refurbished device. The more expensive these devices get, the higher your deductible is going to be. I've never used another insurance before.
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This has been my experience as well regarding the process. I have been in a TMobile store when a huge argument have broken out regarding the need to replace a phone. So if I have any doubts I just say I lost it because I don't want any rep trying to be God.
This is great - thanks guys. I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be in the situation where I called them to say I had a smashed screen, they sent me a returns label and then I had to send the phone off and wait three weeks for it to be fixed or anything like that.
Do they tend to issue replacements fairly quickly? I'm on the policy with Jump. Not that I have any intention of using it but I'm paranoid about this screen!!!
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This is great - thanks guys. I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be in the situation where I called them to say I had a smashed screen, they sent me a returns label and then I had to send the phone off and wait three weeks for it to be fixed or anything like that.
Do they tend to issue replacements fairly quickly? I'm on the policy with Jump. Not that I have any intention of using it but I'm paranoid about this screen!!!
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yeah if its during the week and you call early enough its usually next day two days tops
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T mobile is doing it a bit different now for some reason if your device has defects they send the replacement to a tmobile store where they will inspect your phone before they give you the replacement its happen twice like this that ive seen . My sister just did it they just charged her the 5 dollar shipping fee since it was hardware issue but the guy said that their insurnace claims will be handled like that from now on , waste of personal time IMO but i guess saves them money from people trying to pull a fast one
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That's the warranty exchange process. I agree. Completely waste of time.
For the insurance claim, once approved, they ship the replacement phone overnight to the house.
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I did warranty exchange 2 times and paid $5 bith times shipped to my house and when I recieved it I sent old one back
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you gotta make a claim with the insurance company.
They will charge you whatever the deductible is. You pay that and they send you a phone next day air.
Get that new phone and put the old one back in the box and return it. All prepaid labels.
You can do this 2 times a year.
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you gotta make a claim with the insurance company.
They will charge you whatever the deductible is. You pay that and they send you a phone next day air.
Get that new phone and put the old one back in the box and return it. All prepaid labels.
You can do this 2 times a year.
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I just got my claim approved. Seeing as the s8+ juts came out, do you think I'll get a brand new device or a refurbished? Do you think it will be the same color as my current one?
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SlickNGU said:
I just got my claim approved. Seeing as the s8+ juts came out, do you think I'll get a brand new device or a refurbished? Do you think it will be the same color as my current one?
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Has to be the same color and it will be new.
Mall my phones have been new (well wife's lol, i havent broken mines)
She drop her note 7 right after the first exchange and had to file a claim and got the phone overnight the next day.
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Has to be the same color and it will be new.
Mall my phones have been new (well wife's lol, i havent broken mines)
She drop her note 7 right after the first exchange and had to file a claim and got the phone overnight the next day.
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Sweet! Thanks!
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xile6 said:
you gotta make a claim with the insurance company.
They will charge you whatever the deductible is. You pay that and they send you a phone next day air.
Get that new phone and put the old one back in the box and return it. All prepaid labels.
You can do this 2 times a year.
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I got another question. So I received my replacement device and it came in with all the accessories, including the afg headphones. When I send my old phone to them, do I need to send all the accessories with it? I'm wanting to keep the headphones at least
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SlickNGU said:
I just got my claim approved. Seeing as the s8+ juts came out, do you think I'll get a brand new device or a refurbished? Do you think it will be the same color as my current one?
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SlickNGU said:
I got another question. So I received my replacement device and it came in with all the accessories, including the afg headphones. When I send my old phone to them, do I need to send all the accessories with it? I'm wanting to keep the headphones at least
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I always keep the stuff and just return the phone and sim crd tray.
They never ask for them.
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I always keep the stuff and just return the phone and sim crd tray.
They never ask for them.
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Awesome! Thanks for the help!
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My insurance is included with my jump

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