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How to get mail for WinMo over WiFi without constant connection

I am not sure if this has been discussed before but searching didn't help much as I am not sure what keyword to use.
I have a Fuze (Touch Pro) without the data service and would like the phone to periodically get the mails over WiFi. I am posting it here assuming this would apply to all WinMo devices. If not, please enlighten me.
In default settings, the phone disconnects WiFi as soon as it goes to sleep. I used Advanced Config to enable WiFi even in sleep, but now it stays connected all the time even though Pocket Outlook is configured to run every 15 minutes. For last several months it has been working this way but it drains the battery very quickly unlike my iPhone, which lasts the more than a day because it connects only to check mails when inactive.
I know with 3G service I don't have worry about it but wondering if there is any utility or setting in registry that would connect periodically for a minute or two so that PO can check for new messages.
Thanks.

How to update at intervals
generally there is an option in the email program you are using. check these options

powersupplyzzzz said:
generally there is an option in the email program you are using. check these options
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Thanks powersupplyzzzz. The interval is already configured in ActiveSync/Pocket Outlook, but it doesn't connect to the WiFi unless it's already connected. Does it work for others? I mean does it connect to WiFi automatically when ActiveSync is ready to sync?

Wondering if I posted in the wrong forum or I am asking for something not possible on WM at the moment ...

rexian said:
Thanks powersupplyzzzz. The interval is already configured in ActiveSync/Pocket Outlook, but it doesn't connect to the WiFi unless it's already connected. Does it work for others? I mean does it connect to WiFi automatically when ActiveSync is ready to sync?
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AFAIK what you are asking is not possible, unless you ask someone to write you a script or there is an app that does this, but i havent come across one.

Thanks timmymarsh, this is what I was afraid of. I guess the old iPhone still has some use for this advantage.

rexian said:
Thanks timmymarsh, this is what I was afraid of. I guess the old iPhone still has some use for this advantage.
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What you need is a car battery that you can strap to your back which will boost your battery when required
I'll have a fish around for a real solution.

Does WiFi remain on in Mango update?

In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?

Yes, it is. But it reconnect looooot faster.

Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.

I think you're missing the point, it recconects every so often in standby to download messages/emails/notifications etc it just doesn't stay constantly on.

ammarmalik said:
Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.
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Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.

ammarmalik said:
In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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I guess your machine will juiced out within 6 hours if your run WiFi all the time, which is simply no point. I don't think you will charge your phone every 4-5 hours or bring 5-6 batteries along with you.
Phone will turn on WiFi only when you are going to use the internet (while screen on) or when receiving the mails/messages as scheduled (while screen off), so you can still receive your mails and messages when it is idling.

tiny17 said:
Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.
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I think his problem is that he's lacking a data contract(?) In that case he can't get any real time updates, but it should still connect to Wi-Fi for the periodic checks.

Yeah, it will still connect for email. I ran wifi only for a few months.

ammarmalik said:
In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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It is still connected on WIFI. I use it since using Mango Dev.

WiFi is a little different in mango. If I am using last.fm and turn off the screen, WiFi stays on instead of switching to 3g. Nodo would turn off WiFi.

Few things to note:
Wifi will drop at screen lock if its not utilized. It will sign you out from your messenger and stop receiving emails etc.
If you have DATA (edge or 3G) that will keep the connection alive.
If you have plugged in your phone to a electric socket then and ONLY then the wifi will stay alive at screen lock.
Wifi drops in about 30sec at screen lock.
Android drops wifi at screenlock by default, BUT you have an option under settings to keep it alive. iPhone prior to iOS4 used to drop wifi at screenlock but not anymore and has no impact on battery life what so ever. 3G consumes more battery than Wifi.
wp7 mango is amazingly fast, but no OS is perfect. Probably in future it will be much better. For now if you are dependent on chat, email and other notification then wp7 and Data package work gr8.

All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
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All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
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If my Android can last one whole day with Wifi on 24 hours(Galaxy S2) then WP7 should last longer. WiFi radio DOES NOT consume a lot of battery. Please get these retarded Android thoughts out of your mind. I'm not exactly aiming for the moon here. All I want is to get my push notifications AS THEY HAPPEN.
Someone mentioned in this thread that it periodically reconnects even with screen off to check for updates. Well if that's the case then I can forget about push notifications right? Because for those to work I'll need internet access on my phone constantly and not on periodic intervals.
I'm not trolling here. This was a genuine problem for me on my old WP7 device. The phone would disconnect WiFi when in standby. I have a perfectly fine working internet connection at home and I'm not about to sign up for an expensive data plan from my cellular network provider.
What I need to know is will I get IM push notifications, email push notifications
on WiFi when my screen has been off for a longer period of time? If I'm not then what exactly is the reason behind this? Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?

ammarmalik said:
Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.

thesecondsfade said:
The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.
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well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month

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Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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It's a smartphone so... yes. That's why smartphones are usually sold with data plans and that's why Microsoft implemented cloud services like Skydrive and Zune Pass.

ammarmalik said:
well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month
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Let me make this easy for you... WP7 is not for you and you should stick with your Galaxy S2 which is a great phone anyway.

Delayed Facebook notifications

I've just switched from Android (running MIUI Rom on my Galaxy S) to Windows Phone on a HTC Titan running 7740. One of the things that's bugging me (other than toasts disappearing and no central store of notifications) is that Facebook notifications for me always seem to be 5 minutes delayed. If someone sends me a Facebook message or posts on my wall, the notification always takes 5 minutes to come through to my phone. This happens whether i'm on Wifi or 3G. I've got notifications set to 'As they arrive' but the delay persists. This is especially annoying when someone sees my Facebook status as Online and tries chatting to me and all my replies are 5 minutes late.
Is this the same for everyone on Mango? My outlook/exchange notifications come through instantly so I wonder if this is a Facebook issue or if its the Windows Phone implementation of push notifications.
I also find the Facebook Live Tile is slow to update - it will show I have a notification, i'll read that notification but the Live Tile doesn't update for a while.
Replies are much appreciated!

Facebook notifications are slow as he'll. Just the way it is...
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In the Facebook app notifications are a little bit delayed, but when chatting its almost instant like texting. At least for me anyway.

Notifications barely work and when they do, they are atleast 10 mins delayed. I've noticed this for most of the apps including kik,Facebook,whatsapp,weather channel.
Most of the time I don't receive push and have togo into the app to see that I have messages
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Some information that would be worth including with the posts from users experienceing problems.
Location and carrier. It's pretty easy to set up your profile to display these automatically.
Like the poster above from Chicago, chatting is nearly instantaneous for me in the Minneapolis area.
I did recieve a friend request notification about 30 seconds after I had received it on my iPhone.
Different Notification have different settable priorities by the developers.
So, recieving a Toast about a friend request could be considered by the develoeprs to be low priority, since it does not require an immediate response.

I moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania. They're still slow as hell. Everywhere in between, there was no change. The Vibrant with the Official Facebook Apps has no issue anywhere, nor does the iTouch when used in various places on WiFi.
If it is high priority on every other platform, I don't see why it cannot be high priority here.
It's called a Social Network for a reason. Friend requires are high priority on this...
The issue just isn't about friend request. Chat, Messages, Posts, Picture Comments, Photo Tags, etc. are all more than considerably slower than on other platforms. EVERYTHING is slower.
Maybe Facebook is just low priority on this platform, period? I'm jumping the gun because you'll eventually get there, it seems...

Facebook app activity notifications are instant. Chat notifications are instant. Every other app that's supposed to be instant is. However, the "Me" tile is delayed, but we all know that.

N8ter said:
I moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania. They're still slow as hell. Everywhere in between, there was no change. The Vibrant with the Official Facebook Apps has no issue anywhere, nor does the iTouch when used in various places on WiFi.
If it is high priority on every other platform, I don't see why it cannot be high priority here.
It's called a Social Network for a reason. Friend requires are high priority on this...
The issue just isn't about friend request. Chat, Messages, Posts, Picture Comments, Photo Tags, etc. are all more than considerably slower than on other platforms. EVERYTHING is slower.
Maybe Facebook is just low priority on this platform, period? I'm jumping the gun because you'll eventually get there, it seems...
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maybe if you'd just sign in at one location only it would work alot better because I'm having no issues at all.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
maybe if you'd just sign in at one location only it would work alot better because I'm having no issues at all.
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Maybe they should fix it to work correctly. Everyone else's clients work. I'm not the issue
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N8ter said:
Maybe they should fix it to work correctly. Everyone else's clients work. I'm not the issue
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Usually have Androids to test around the house and both WP7 and my current Android work fine for FB notifications.

I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?

N8ter said:
I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
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mine aren't late, usually a few seconds to a couple mins at the most. Not an issue at all and my HD7 is the only device I carry.

N8ter said:
I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
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Try keeping WiFi off on your Windows Phone 7 with a SIM in.
It looks like WiFi is shutting off when the phone screen shuts off. When I let my phone sit for a while, and then turn the screen back on, the WiFi icon is animated. Then it turns solid, which I am guessing means that is was connecting and is now connected.
Obviously, no push notification will come through if WiFi is not connected and no SIM is in the phone.
I have not noticed any delays when I don't have WiFi on. So, there might be some problem related to data, where WiFi does not transition to 3G.
I have also noticed that WiFi shuts off on the iPhone and reconnects when you turn the screen on.
I am starting to think that delays might be related to this.

JVH3 said:
Try keeping WiFi off on your Windows Phone 7 with a SIM in.
It looks like WiFi is shutting off when the phone screen shuts off. When I let my phone sit for a while, and then turn the screen back on, the WiFi icon is animated. Then it turns solid, which I am guessing means that is was connecting and is now connected.
Obviously, no push notification will come through if WiFi is not connected and no SIM is in the phone.
I have not noticed any delays when I don't have WiFi on. So, there might be some problem related to data, where WiFi does not transition to 3G.
I have also noticed that WiFi shuts off on the iPhone and reconnects when you turn the screen on.
I am starting to think that delays might be related to this.
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It happens even when WiFi is off, plus, when the WiFi shuts off the phone falls back to 3G and I get a full 3G signal here.
You're not onto anything
The Vibrant is still way faster than the HD7 when I'm away from Home and Off of WiFi. Obviously the iTouch won't get anything off of WiFi.
Additionally, the device does not sleep WiFi when it's plugged into a charger and I use USB extenders and almost always have them on a charger when I'm at home or in the car. My phone charge cables are like 20 feet long, Lol.
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prohibido_por_la_ley said:
mine aren't late, usually a few seconds to a couple mins at the most. Not an issue at all and my HD7 is the only device I carry.
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I'm changing carriers in two months and going down to one phone. I can assure you I will not have to worry about this when that happens. It's not something I should have to deal with, and it's not something you or anyone else should have to deal with either.

Are you just talking about the facebook app or people's hub integration?
People's hub is always up to date for me and messages through it are instant. I don't use the facebook app so not sure there. Neither do groups (like the dog park group i am part of) and bugs me the most. The app says it does but when you click on a notification it takes you to the facebook mobile and says not found. For groups i use IE9. Works great even as the desktop version. Why even use the app when you have that and the people's hub?

Oh my, N8ter saying that Android does something faster than Windows Phone and that Windows Phone is ruining a user experience model. And he's saying they need to make it work properly? What a surprise!
My notifications come in within 1-10 seconds, most of the time they'll come through on my phone before they come in on my girlfriend's Android in a picture we're both tagged in, the platform isn't the problem.

ROCOAFZ said:
Are you just talking about the facebook app or people's hub integration?
People's hub is always up to date for me and messages through it are instant. I don't use the facebook app so not sure there. Neither do groups (like the dog park group i am part of) and bugs me the most. The app says it does but when you click on a notification it takes you to the facebook mobile and says not found. For groups i use IE9. Works great even as the desktop version. Why even use the app when you have that and the people's hub?
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People polls when opened so of course its always up to date. I am talking about push notifications for the Facebook app and message hub Facebook chat. And various other third party apps. Something is wrong with the way Microsoft handles push notifications.
People hub social stuff does not update in the background. It clearly polls whenever you open it up, just like Samsung social hub in touchwiz 3.
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N8ter said:
People polls when opened so of course its always up to date. I am talking about push notifications for the Facebook app and message hub Facebook chat. And various other third party apps. Something is wrong with the way Microsoft handles push notifications.
People hub social stuff does not update in the background. It clearly polls whenever you open it up, just like Samsung social hub in touchwiz 3.
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I second that. You need the facebook app to receive toast notifications when something happens in facebook. But this push notification for me is delayed and noticeably so compared to Android and iOS. This is the case when using wifi or 3g and is the case on my HTC Titan and HD7. This isn't a HUGE deal for wall posts (though it is annoying), but i've had to turn my facebook status through WP7 onto Appear Offline, because chat notifications are delayed and when you appear to people on facebook as Online they expect a faster response.

I get FB chat messages instantly on my Focus. Notifications from the FB application aren't as quick but never been delayed for more than a few minutes. Never been a problem. I also play scrabble a lot with friends and as soon as they make there move (there sitting across from me), I get a push notification a second later. So the push notifications are working great for me. Maybe a format of your HTC Titan will help?

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Facebook notifications are slow as he'll. Just the way it is...
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I can only compare with windows7 and wp7 but I always get notifications faster on my phone then my pc (always)
pc on wifi and phone on 3g.

Keep WIFI ON during sleep via email check interval?

Hello,
I understand that WP7 turns off WIFI when the screen is locked/phone goes to sleep.
I believe that Microsoft should provide an option where the user (paying money for the device and expecting some options) is given the option to set WIFI to always ON, but it seems Microsoft is not of that opinion despite many users complaining.
Anyway, here's what I'd like to know:
If one sets one of his email accounts to check every 15 minutes while Cellular Data is turned OFF and WIFI is turned ON, does phone turn WIFI ON during sleep every 15 minutes to check the email account or does it default to the 2-hour wake-up/check?
Thanks for your answers in advance.

No answer? Bump

simple:
put phone to sleep, send yourself email, wait 15min ...
but to awnser your question: no
and yea it sucks
keep the screen on or make sure to check from time to time...

webwalk® said:
simple:
put phone to sleep, send yourself email, wait 15min ...
but to awnser your question: no
and yea it sucks
keep the screen on or make sure to check from time to time...
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Waiting on my Lumia 900 to arrive and test. Big Inconvenience nonetheless !

xsever said:
Waiting on my Lumia 900 to arrive and test. Big Inconvenience nonetheless !
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Or keep an app running in the background that uses Wifi... Skype, Spotify seem to work (sometimes) keeps the Wifi On

Tachi91 said:
Or keep an app running in the background that uses Wifi... Skype, Spotify seem to work (sometimes) keeps the Wifi On
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I live in Canada so cannot download Spotify, but will test with Skype although if it actually worked, the forums would have been filled with this solution.

Here's a trick: http://mobilitydigest.com/wp-tips-tricks-keep-wifi-running-all-the-time/
Thank Jim for finding it and myself for sharing it!

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Q: What does mean "set the heartbeat to x minutes" ?
A: It means only that android will send a network packet over the push connection every x minutes instead of the default 15/28 minutes to keep alive that connection. It does NOT mean that you receive push notification every x minutes. Notifications are instantly if the push connection is alive.
Q: Why Whatsapp messages are still delayed sometimes?
A: Whatsapp, and some others apps, don't completely rely on google push service (GCM). Those apps start their own connection when you open the application, and the messages come through this connection. The heartbeat is sent by android only on the push connection on the port 5228, and so it only keep-alive that particular connection. Blame those apps that doesn't have a keep-alive mechanism for their connection or that doesn't use full push messaging.
A workaround for whatsapp is to swipe it away from the recent apps when your finished a chat session. In this way it's connection is dropped and you will be notified of new messages through google push notifications.

I start seeing some download, but few stars.. Come on show your gratification with 5 stars
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How?
Hi, Im using your application, the root one.
But I'm interested in how this one works.
I recently developed an app that use GCM to send messages between devices.
If you can answer me... How do you send the heartbeat through an Activity? This can help a lot of people since Google don't do anything.
Thank you

Hitsbam said:
Hi, Im using your application, the root one.
But I'm interested in how this one works.
I recently developed an app that use GCM to send messages between devices.
If you can answer me... How do you send the heartbeat through an Activity? This can help a lot of people since Google don't do anything.
Thank you
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Basically to trigger an heartbeat you only need those 2 lines (those are undocumented, I it discovered by decompiling GSF):
Code:
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.GTALK_HEARTBEAT"));
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.MCS_HEARTBEAT"));
where context is the application context.
Those intents will be "catched" by GoogleServicesFramework (GSF) that will physically send the heartbeat packet to the google servers. If an aswer come back instantly the push connection is alive, otherwise if in 60 seconds there is no answer back, GSF will initiate a new push connection without to wait the next heartbeat.
The first intent is for Ice Cream Sandwhich and below "I think", while the second one is used in new android versions, should depend from the GSF version installed..But you can safety fire both, since one of the two won't just do anything.
Not sure if it is a good practice to place it inside an application, since if every developer will do that the battery will be killed. Maybe you can invoke that only in some situations.

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Basically to trigger an heartbeat you only need those 2 lines:
Code:
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.GTALK_HEARTBEAT"));
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.MCS_HEARTBEAT"));
where context is the application context.
Those intents will be "catched" by GoogleServicesFramework (GSF) that will physically send the heartbeat packet to the google servers. If an aswer come back instantly the push connection is alive, otherwise if in 60 seconds there is no answer back, GSF will initiate a new push connection.
The first intent is for Ice Cream Sandwhich and below "I think", while the second one is used in new android versions, should depend from the GSF version installed..But you can safety fire both, since one of the two won't just do anything.
Not sure if it is a good practice to place it inside an application, since if every developer will do that the battery will be killed. Maybe you can invoke that only in some situations.
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Thanks a lot.
Your right, if every developer use it then can turn in to a problem.
I'm not going to use it, only in the start of the app if the users reports me problems. But first i'm going to suggest your application, i think is a better solution by the moment :good:.
Thanks for satisfy my curiosity.

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Great app :good:
I'm new with android. How can I swipe whatsapp away from the recent apps in settings when I finished a chat session?
Thanks in advance

lefty68 said:
Great app :good:
I'm new with android. How can I swipe whatsapp away from the recent apps in settings when I finished a chat session?
Thanks in advance
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Depends from your phone I think, just launch the recent apps list and remove / swype whatsapp from there..
On the Nexus phones there is a dedicated on screen button to open the recent app list, on some Samsung phone I think you can long press the home button.
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andQlimax said:
Depends from your phone I think, just launch the recent apps list and remove / swype whatsapp from there..
On the Nexus phones there is a dedicated on screen button to open the recent app list, on some Samsung phone I think you can long press the home button.
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On Huawei g300 phone I can long press the home button to open the recent app list too, but it seems like in android 2.3.6 I can't swipe apps away. Any alternative action?

andQlimax said:
Basically to trigger an heartbeat you only need those 2 lines (those are undocumented, I it discovered by decompiling GSF):
Code:
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.GTALK_HEARTBEAT"));
context.sendBroadcast(new Intent("com.google.android.intent.action.MCS_HEARTBEAT"));
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Hi, I'am using the same method in my product.
Can we reach an agreement how to reduce the frequency of these intent calls?
I have no idea to realize any heartbeat timeout settings in my app (hard policy).
I can't listen for these intents cause it requires com.google.android.c2dm.permission.SEND permission that can't be acquired.
For example, can you send some additional broadcast intent (w/o permissions) when fire heartbeat?
I'll listen for it and reset own alarms to not to do the same action.

dd00_xda said:
Hi, I'am using the same method in my product.
Can we reach an agreement how to reduce the frequency of these intent calls?
I have no idea to realize any heartbeat timeout settings in my app (hard policy).
I can't listen for these intents cause it requires com.google.android.c2dm.permission.SEND permission that can't be acquired.
For example, can you send some additional broadcast intent (w/o permissions) when fire heartbeat?
I'll listen for it and reset own alarms to not to do the same action.
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I have to check, there is an other intent directly fired by android which indicate that an heartbeat has been sent, you can listen that intent I think
I don't remember it right now what, I will check tomorrow maybe and will let you know

dd00_xda said:
Hi, I'am using the same method in my product.
Can we reach an agreement how to reduce the frequency of these intent calls?
I have no idea to realize any heartbeat timeout settings in my app (hard policy).
I can't listen for these intents cause it requires com.google.android.c2dm.permission.SEND permission that can't be acquired.
For example, can you send some additional broadcast intent (w/o permissions) when fire heartbeat?
I'll listen for it and reset own alarms to not to do the same action.
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@dd00_xda
It seems there isn't an android system intent that you can listen to check if an heartbeat has been sent.
About your request to send some broadcast intent in my app, what will be the advantage for you? I mean, if you already need my app installed, then you don't need at all your own alarm..My app by default send and heartbeat every 5 minutes for example (the alarm will start every time a connection is made) and in that way the push connection is already alive..and every notification you app need to listen, it will always being received

Thanks very much for creating this app! I have a question about it.
I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3 running Android 4.1.2. Push notifications worked fine over Wi-Fi when I was at home.
I have now switched to a Nexus 5 running Android 4.4. I'm still using the same router at home, but I'm getting an issue with notifications being delayed. Sometimes I will not get any notifications for a while, then a bunch will turn up at once from different apps.
Does the issue I've described sound like it's related to the problem that this app is designed to fix? If so, how come everything worked fine with my S3 with the same router?
Many thanks!

funksoulbrother said:
Thanks very much for creating this app! I have a question about it.
I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3 running Android 4.1.2. Push notifications worked fine over Wi-Fi when I was at home.
I have now switched to a Nexus 5 running Android 4.4. I'm still using the same router at home, but I'm getting an issue with notifications being delayed. Sometimes I will not get any notifications for a while, then a bunch will turn up at once from different apps.
Does the issue I've described sound like it's related to the problem that this app is designed to fix? If so, how come everything worked fine with my S3 with the same router?
Many thanks!
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maybe the issue is that the device loose the network while the screen is off? that's a common problem on some device, it is not fixed by PNF

andQlimax said:
maybe the issue is that the device loose the network while the screen is off? that's a common problem on some device, it is not fixed by PNF
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Thanks for the reply!
Do you have any recommendations of how I could troubleshoot this issue? I really don't know what the cause is - I just know it happens, and if it was a widespread issue with the Nexus 5 then a lot more people would be talking about this issue. I've only seen a handful of folks mentioning it.
Thanks again.

funksoulbrother said:
Thanks for the reply!
Do you have any recommendations of how I could troubleshoot this issue? I really don't know what the cause is - I just know it happens, and if it was a widespread issue with the Nexus 5 then a lot more people would be talking about this issue. I've only seen a handful of folks mentioning it.
Thanks again.
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if the phone disconnect from the wifi while the screen is off (happen also with only some routers sometimes), you usually should see the phone reconnect as soon as you wake the screen..if you pull down the notification bar and open the toggle switch, you should see the wifi icon orange (no connection to google server) and in few seconds become white again (connected).

andQlimax said:
if the phone disconnect from the wifi while the screen is off (happen also with only some routers sometimes), you usually should see the phone reconnect as soon as you wake the screen..if you pull down the notification bar and open the toggle switch, you should see the wifi icon orange (no connection to google server) and in few seconds become white again (connected).
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Thanks again.
I don't believe the Wi-Fi is disconnecting. I can ping the device when the screen has been off for ages and notifications do come in when the screen is off - they're just delayed and sometimes I don't get a notification at all, yet I'll get an email notification on my PC.

funksoulbrother said:
Thanks again.
I don't believe the Wi-Fi is disconnecting. I can ping the device when the screen has been off for ages and notifications do come in when the screen is off - they're just delayed and sometimes I don't get a notification at all, yet I'll get an email notification on my PC.
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that's strange...anyway my nexus 5 is arriving, I will do some tests and see if PNF is working correctly on KitKat