I've just switched from Android (running MIUI Rom on my Galaxy S) to Windows Phone on a HTC Titan running 7740. One of the things that's bugging me (other than toasts disappearing and no central store of notifications) is that Facebook notifications for me always seem to be 5 minutes delayed. If someone sends me a Facebook message or posts on my wall, the notification always takes 5 minutes to come through to my phone. This happens whether i'm on Wifi or 3G. I've got notifications set to 'As they arrive' but the delay persists. This is especially annoying when someone sees my Facebook status as Online and tries chatting to me and all my replies are 5 minutes late.
Is this the same for everyone on Mango? My outlook/exchange notifications come through instantly so I wonder if this is a Facebook issue or if its the Windows Phone implementation of push notifications.
I also find the Facebook Live Tile is slow to update - it will show I have a notification, i'll read that notification but the Live Tile doesn't update for a while.
Replies are much appreciated!
Facebook notifications are slow as he'll. Just the way it is...
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In the Facebook app notifications are a little bit delayed, but when chatting its almost instant like texting. At least for me anyway.
Notifications barely work and when they do, they are atleast 10 mins delayed. I've noticed this for most of the apps including kik,Facebook,whatsapp,weather channel.
Most of the time I don't receive push and have togo into the app to see that I have messages
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Some information that would be worth including with the posts from users experienceing problems.
Location and carrier. It's pretty easy to set up your profile to display these automatically.
Like the poster above from Chicago, chatting is nearly instantaneous for me in the Minneapolis area.
I did recieve a friend request notification about 30 seconds after I had received it on my iPhone.
Different Notification have different settable priorities by the developers.
So, recieving a Toast about a friend request could be considered by the develoeprs to be low priority, since it does not require an immediate response.
I moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania. They're still slow as hell. Everywhere in between, there was no change. The Vibrant with the Official Facebook Apps has no issue anywhere, nor does the iTouch when used in various places on WiFi.
If it is high priority on every other platform, I don't see why it cannot be high priority here.
It's called a Social Network for a reason. Friend requires are high priority on this...
The issue just isn't about friend request. Chat, Messages, Posts, Picture Comments, Photo Tags, etc. are all more than considerably slower than on other platforms. EVERYTHING is slower.
Maybe Facebook is just low priority on this platform, period? I'm jumping the gun because you'll eventually get there, it seems...
Facebook app activity notifications are instant. Chat notifications are instant. Every other app that's supposed to be instant is. However, the "Me" tile is delayed, but we all know that.
N8ter said:
I moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania. They're still slow as hell. Everywhere in between, there was no change. The Vibrant with the Official Facebook Apps has no issue anywhere, nor does the iTouch when used in various places on WiFi.
If it is high priority on every other platform, I don't see why it cannot be high priority here.
It's called a Social Network for a reason. Friend requires are high priority on this...
The issue just isn't about friend request. Chat, Messages, Posts, Picture Comments, Photo Tags, etc. are all more than considerably slower than on other platforms. EVERYTHING is slower.
Maybe Facebook is just low priority on this platform, period? I'm jumping the gun because you'll eventually get there, it seems...
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maybe if you'd just sign in at one location only it would work alot better because I'm having no issues at all.
prohibido_por_la_ley said:
maybe if you'd just sign in at one location only it would work alot better because I'm having no issues at all.
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Maybe they should fix it to work correctly. Everyone else's clients work. I'm not the issue
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Maybe they should fix it to work correctly. Everyone else's clients work. I'm not the issue
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Usually have Androids to test around the house and both WP7 and my current Android work fine for FB notifications.
I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
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I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
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mine aren't late, usually a few seconds to a couple mins at the most. Not an issue at all and my HD7 is the only device I carry.
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I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.
Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.
Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.
The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.
Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
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Try keeping WiFi off on your Windows Phone 7 with a SIM in.
It looks like WiFi is shutting off when the phone screen shuts off. When I let my phone sit for a while, and then turn the screen back on, the WiFi icon is animated. Then it turns solid, which I am guessing means that is was connecting and is now connected.
Obviously, no push notification will come through if WiFi is not connected and no SIM is in the phone.
I have not noticed any delays when I don't have WiFi on. So, there might be some problem related to data, where WiFi does not transition to 3G.
I have also noticed that WiFi shuts off on the iPhone and reconnects when you turn the screen on.
I am starting to think that delays might be related to this.
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Try keeping WiFi off on your Windows Phone 7 with a SIM in.
It looks like WiFi is shutting off when the phone screen shuts off. When I let my phone sit for a while, and then turn the screen back on, the WiFi icon is animated. Then it turns solid, which I am guessing means that is was connecting and is now connected.
Obviously, no push notification will come through if WiFi is not connected and no SIM is in the phone.
I have not noticed any delays when I don't have WiFi on. So, there might be some problem related to data, where WiFi does not transition to 3G.
I have also noticed that WiFi shuts off on the iPhone and reconnects when you turn the screen on.
I am starting to think that delays might be related to this.
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It happens even when WiFi is off, plus, when the WiFi shuts off the phone falls back to 3G and I get a full 3G signal here.
You're not onto anything
The Vibrant is still way faster than the HD7 when I'm away from Home and Off of WiFi. Obviously the iTouch won't get anything off of WiFi.
Additionally, the device does not sleep WiFi when it's plugged into a charger and I use USB extenders and almost always have them on a charger when I'm at home or in the car. My phone charge cables are like 20 feet long, Lol.
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prohibido_por_la_ley said:
mine aren't late, usually a few seconds to a couple mins at the most. Not an issue at all and my HD7 is the only device I carry.
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I'm changing carriers in two months and going down to one phone. I can assure you I will not have to worry about this when that happens. It's not something I should have to deal with, and it's not something you or anyone else should have to deal with either.
Are you just talking about the facebook app or people's hub integration?
People's hub is always up to date for me and messages through it are instant. I don't use the facebook app so not sure there. Neither do groups (like the dog park group i am part of) and bugs me the most. The app says it does but when you click on a notification it takes you to the facebook mobile and says not found. For groups i use IE9. Works great even as the desktop version. Why even use the app when you have that and the people's hub?
Oh my, N8ter saying that Android does something faster than Windows Phone and that Windows Phone is ruining a user experience model. And he's saying they need to make it work properly? What a surprise!
My notifications come in within 1-10 seconds, most of the time they'll come through on my phone before they come in on my girlfriend's Android in a picture we're both tagged in, the platform isn't the problem.
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Are you just talking about the facebook app or people's hub integration?
People's hub is always up to date for me and messages through it are instant. I don't use the facebook app so not sure there. Neither do groups (like the dog park group i am part of) and bugs me the most. The app says it does but when you click on a notification it takes you to the facebook mobile and says not found. For groups i use IE9. Works great even as the desktop version. Why even use the app when you have that and the people's hub?
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People polls when opened so of course its always up to date. I am talking about push notifications for the Facebook app and message hub Facebook chat. And various other third party apps. Something is wrong with the way Microsoft handles push notifications.
People hub social stuff does not update in the background. It clearly polls whenever you open it up, just like Samsung social hub in touchwiz 3.
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People polls when opened so of course its always up to date. I am talking about push notifications for the Facebook app and message hub Facebook chat. And various other third party apps. Something is wrong with the way Microsoft handles push notifications.
People hub social stuff does not update in the background. It clearly polls whenever you open it up, just like Samsung social hub in touchwiz 3.
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I second that. You need the facebook app to receive toast notifications when something happens in facebook. But this push notification for me is delayed and noticeably so compared to Android and iOS. This is the case when using wifi or 3g and is the case on my HTC Titan and HD7. This isn't a HUGE deal for wall posts (though it is annoying), but i've had to turn my facebook status through WP7 onto Appear Offline, because chat notifications are delayed and when you appear to people on facebook as Online they expect a faster response.
I get FB chat messages instantly on my Focus. Notifications from the FB application aren't as quick but never been delayed for more than a few minutes. Never been a problem. I also play scrabble a lot with friends and as soon as they make there move (there sitting across from me), I get a push notification a second later. So the push notifications are working great for me. Maybe a format of your HTC Titan will help?
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Facebook notifications are slow as he'll. Just the way it is...
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I can only compare with windows7 and wp7 but I always get notifications faster on my phone then my pc (always)
pc on wifi and phone on 3g.
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This applies to:-
Gmail (new mail)
Market app updates
Google Intent (Chrome2Phone for example)
I have a Nexus One on a Vodafone contract. It doesn't have the Vanilla ROM but the Vodafone ROM. What I've noticed is that, with each of the 3 apps listed above, the information pushed to the phone is almost never instant. New email notification on Gmail, for instance, can take upto 40 (yes forty!) minutes to come on my phone. Although on certain occasions I get the notification within a second.
From reading experiences on forums, I think if your phone is unlocked then the push notifications are near instant. This makes me think that the Vodafone ROM might be interfering, but it shouldn't if I have 3G mobile internet access on all the time, which I do. Auto-sync is also, always, enabled.
So can Google's push notifications be interfered by mobile carrier networks in anyway? Thanks.
Hi,
having read about push notifications the behavior you described is exactly the one intended. If the phone is idle and locked the notifications are delayed (in fact by Google) to not drain the battery. Might look for the link later. Was in the development documentation of push notifications.
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slow23 said:
Hi,
having read about push notifications the behavior you described is exactly the one intended. If the phone is idle and locked the notifications are delayed (in fact by Google) to not drain the battery. Might look for the link later. Was in the development documentation of push notifications.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply. It is very interesting that Google withholds notifications intentionally. But I'm not sure it has been implemented correctly because, for example, one would assume that the intent delivered in case of Chrome2Phone should be near instant. In practice it's not always so.
On my Wildfire I still get new Gmail notifications instantly even if my phone screen is off. Same like if I'd receive a SMS message. I think that behavious is as designed by Google
However, when you setup your gmail account to receive emails from other accounts (via POP3) then this is incrementally delayed by Google depending on your email traffic.
Probably you have auto-sync unchecked? My gmail notifies me instantly if I turn on auto-sync.
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Hi i'm on WIFI, dont have have data package. The integrated messenger just signs out from time to time....
Its connected to WIFI at all times....when i check the status of my live msessenger/facebook account from a friends pc...it says offline.....i've open the phone goto ME tile>> and under status choose available again...
this is driving me nuts....Kik messenger works flawlessly.... but integrated messenger with live/facebook signsout.........
i tried a soft reset but the problem persists....anybody else having the same probs?
i'm on Mango RTM on samsung focus v1.3
Wifi connection drops when the screen locks, and then re-connects when you unlock.
Maybe this could be the issue? Only 3G data connection is able to run under the lockscreen.
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Wifi connection drops when the screen locks, and then re-connects when you unlock.
Maybe this could be the issue? Only 3G data connection is able to run under the lockscreen.
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Thanks that explains it, i hope they change this.....i understand they are doing this to save battery but my iphone doesnt do that and still has an amazing battery life.
Perhaps windows phone should ONLY drop the wifi connection IF the person has chosen the "battery saver option"....otherwise let it be....
If you put it on the charger WIFI won't drop.
Otherwise I have the same problem as you.
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Thanks that explains it, i hope they change this.....i understand they are doing this to save battery but my iphone doesnt do that and still has an amazing battery life.
Perhaps windows phone should ONLY drop the wifi connection IF the person has chosen the "battery saver option"....otherwise let it be....
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Actually, iPhone does dropped WiFi when it's locks.
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Actually, iPhone does dropped WiFi when it's locks.
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No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....
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No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
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This is correct. Persistent wifi connection was a new feature added to iOS4 :
http://www.tipb.com/2010/06/14/ios-4-feature-ipod-touch-wifi-stays-connected-asleep-iphone/
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with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....
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If it were that simple, I have a feeling MS would have implemented it. Apple only added it last year, and for Android, you need to root your phone to enable persistent wifi, so guess it's more complex; probably a real battery killer?
Hopefully addressed in the future; it is a pretty huge issue!
I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
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PsyCLown89 said:
I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
Thanks
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it's push, as soon as someone sends an im, it pops up like a sms
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No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....
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iOS drops wifi at sleep+300 seconds, then "wakes" in background every 300 seconds to prompt/receive push updates.
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PsyCLown89 said:
I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
Thanks
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It's push, your phone establishes a "permanent" connection to a centralized server. Server receives messages, notifications, alerts, and forwards them to your phone via "permanent" link. At sleep, push turns into fetch.
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iOS drops wifi at sleep+300 seconds, then "wakes" in background every 300 seconds to prompt/receive push updates.
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That's interesting, thanks.
Unsure why WP7 doesn't do this. When I first got the phone and set my email to poll every 15 minutes, I expected the wifi to wake up under the lock screen every 15mins and check for new messages. Or at least do a new poll as soon as I unlock and the wifi wakes up?
Instead when you unlock the phone, it checks email 15 mins later - so you end up having to check your email manually. Quite annoying.
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It's push, your phone establishes a "permanent" connection to a centralized server. Server receives messages, notifications, alerts, and forwards them to your phone via "permanent" link. At sleep, push turns into fetch.
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ok, I see. So how does fetch work and what if you walk into an area where you completely lose signal and are using your cellular data connection for msn, then 5 seconds or so later you walk back into a normal fine area with signal. BUT as you lost signal someone sent you a message and/or you sent a message. You obviously won't get it with no signal, will it resend it or something?
Fetch is when your phone retrieves all it can on a regular basis i.e: every 15 minutes. If you walk into a dead spot, your phone'll resume when signal is regained.
Push = permanent link
Fetch = scheduled "grab"
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Awesome, exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks!
its a microsoft OS, they developed the direct push tech & active sync...they've been in market far longer (first with windows mobile - yrs of experience developing that)....than google/apple..........
yet its apple who has nailed it with keeping wifi alive even at screen lock without sacrificing battery life.......
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Awesome, exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks!
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One wired thing, when i'm listining to TunIn Radio, over wifi (Data connection = Off), it continus streaming when i turn off the screen. Maybe they found a workaround.
In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
Yes, it is. But it reconnect looooot faster.
Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.
I think you're missing the point, it recconects every so often in standby to download messages/emails/notifications etc it just doesn't stay constantly on.
ammarmalik said:
Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.
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Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.
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In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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I guess your machine will juiced out within 6 hours if your run WiFi all the time, which is simply no point. I don't think you will charge your phone every 4-5 hours or bring 5-6 batteries along with you.
Phone will turn on WiFi only when you are going to use the internet (while screen on) or when receiving the mails/messages as scheduled (while screen off), so you can still receive your mails and messages when it is idling.
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Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.
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I think his problem is that he's lacking a data contract(?) In that case he can't get any real time updates, but it should still connect to Wi-Fi for the periodic checks.
Yeah, it will still connect for email. I ran wifi only for a few months.
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In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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It is still connected on WIFI. I use it since using Mango Dev.
WiFi is a little different in mango. If I am using last.fm and turn off the screen, WiFi stays on instead of switching to 3g. Nodo would turn off WiFi.
Few things to note:
Wifi will drop at screen lock if its not utilized. It will sign you out from your messenger and stop receiving emails etc.
If you have DATA (edge or 3G) that will keep the connection alive.
If you have plugged in your phone to a electric socket then and ONLY then the wifi will stay alive at screen lock.
Wifi drops in about 30sec at screen lock.
Android drops wifi at screenlock by default, BUT you have an option under settings to keep it alive. iPhone prior to iOS4 used to drop wifi at screenlock but not anymore and has no impact on battery life what so ever. 3G consumes more battery than Wifi.
wp7 mango is amazingly fast, but no OS is perfect. Probably in future it will be much better. For now if you are dependent on chat, email and other notification then wp7 and Data package work gr8.
All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
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All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
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If my Android can last one whole day with Wifi on 24 hours(Galaxy S2) then WP7 should last longer. WiFi radio DOES NOT consume a lot of battery. Please get these retarded Android thoughts out of your mind. I'm not exactly aiming for the moon here. All I want is to get my push notifications AS THEY HAPPEN.
Someone mentioned in this thread that it periodically reconnects even with screen off to check for updates. Well if that's the case then I can forget about push notifications right? Because for those to work I'll need internet access on my phone constantly and not on periodic intervals.
I'm not trolling here. This was a genuine problem for me on my old WP7 device. The phone would disconnect WiFi when in standby. I have a perfectly fine working internet connection at home and I'm not about to sign up for an expensive data plan from my cellular network provider.
What I need to know is will I get IM push notifications, email push notifications
on WiFi when my screen has been off for a longer period of time? If I'm not then what exactly is the reason behind this? Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.
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The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.
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well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month
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Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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It's a smartphone so... yes. That's why smartphones are usually sold with data plans and that's why Microsoft implemented cloud services like Skydrive and Zune Pass.
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well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month
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Let me make this easy for you... WP7 is not for you and you should stick with your Galaxy S2 which is a great phone anyway.
Hey guys,
Tried searching for this, but nada.
Anyone else having issues with your phone being idle but powered on ans upon bringing on the screen you receive a google talk notification that's old? Is been happening to me lately, and I can't tell if it's the phone or the fact that my desktop version is intercepting the message and preventing the phone notification.
I'm tempted to no longer use the desktop built in gmail version, but I wanted to see if others are having similar issues.
Thanks in advance!
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
I assume both of you also get delayed notifications with push email using the native Gmail app? I also frequently get logged out of Google Talk when I put the phone in standby mode. When I am logged out of Google Talk, my push emails are delayed in the Gmail app until I log back into Google Talk.
So it seems to be some problem of getting disconnected from google services when the phone is asleep.
I don't think i've been getting delayed notifications, but I do notice that my chat gets out of order a lot. My replies will be above whoever is talking to me no matter what order each was sent in.
Almost every phone that comes out gets a google talk going eventually so there is lots out there, but each phone has it's own issues. Here is a thread that was pretty good from the Galaxy Nexus Forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400367
With the HOX I have had issues with Google Talk not working great when the wifi is dropping, so this might be part of the wifi issue that pretty much everybody is having with this phone. The wifi stays connected but seems to go to sleep so your phone only gets the notification once it is woken up. Try turning off the wifi and seeing if you have the same problem.
As for Google Talk, there are some oddities that go along with using it on multiple devices. Here is some stuff I figured out playing around with it on multiple devices and computers at the same time. (I posted this in the GN forums as well)
"Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps"
Gtalk and gmail delays
Hi all,
I have performed tests and discovered that if i disable WiFI and only use the phone's data connection "4g" or LTE that i receive all my messages with no problem even when the phone locks/goes to sleep. However if i leave wifi turned on, within 5-10 seconds i stop receiving them and will only receive them when i wake up the phone/unlock or wait for the delay which can be anywhere from 5-15 mins.
Trying to figure out a way to by pass this, but can't seem to figure it out. I don't want to keep my wifi off when i'm at work or home so i don't use data as i have 3GB and not unlimited so it kind of sucks that i have to keep wifi off for now. Any thoughts/ideas would be great, thanks.
k0sun7eash3d said:
Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
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This. I have issues with timely/accurate reception of notifications from GV. I only use my account for voicemail, but typically I only get voicemail notifications if I open the actual application (which I do because my gmail account receives an email notification now, as well). Sometimes I notice GV as a running task, but often times not, so to me it seems that (possibly) multitasking or some other form of process management in ICS or Sense is not prioritizing the GV process and it's associated actions. I dont mind the aggressive multitasking, but it would be nice to have the option of protecting some processes, such as GV.
I removed google + app completely with titanium backup, and the problem is gone., I get the messages immediately
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
I'm running the latest Viper, I've never had an issue receiving or sending msgs. The only time the phone won't alert me is if I am actively typing in the browser window.
I'll note though that I never have wifi on, it's always on the mobile network.
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Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
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I tried everything not even this works for me
Same problem, screen off - phone disconnects, unlock the phone - messages start to appear
Same problem on 2 different phones and 2 different numbers
I don't use G Talk, but I see the same thing with G Voice. I almost never get voicemail notifications on my HOX (they show up instantly on my old GNex). I blame Sense (for this and other things).
Same problem, but with Nexus 4 when I am on WiFi. With data connection, it works without problems.
Has anyone else been having weird notification problems the last few days? Internet problems? Please read this whole post, especially the bottom paragraph.
So far I've been getting double and triple notifications.
Sometimes nothing at all.
I've noticed on a few messaging apps that I would receive a notification showing the person's I'm talking to photo and name but the text would be the text I just sent them.
Also my eBay notifications just turned themselves off without warning and I actually lost 2 items I bid on because of it.
I have my gmail set to vibrate on notification and it hasn't when I get an email.
Sometimes I delete an email and then login to gmail on the PC and it's not deleted out of my inbox.
It doesn't matter if I'm on wifi or 3g, it still happens.
Besides the phone I've noticed google.com in general being very slow and sometimes just not loading at all on my PC and a few others are having the same slow internet issues.
I have a N-7100 on AT&T running stock 4.1.1 rooted with the latest cwm and my FrankenBeats audio installed. I haven't done any modifications or installed any new apps to cause an issue, yet I'm having these problems.
This may be the conspiracy theorist inside me talking but I'm starting to think there is a massive cyber attack going on in the USA. Four of my family members (that I know of so far) have been experiencing slow internet (sometimes to the point of a time out) and their router logs show numerous back to back DoS attacks. I've done traces to the IP addresses that show in the logs and some are coming from GoDaddy servers, Cox ISP, Comcast, and all around the country? The four people are all located in different parts of the country. All different ISPs. But I find it hard to believe that Google's servers are being slow. In the history of the internet I don't think it ever has been acting the way it has in the last 2-3 weeks, and it's only getting worse. Not to mention the recently published articles of Facebook, Microsoft, and Apple being hacked or infected with viruses. What do you guys think?