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hey all, i am a noob when it comes to stuff like this but i wanted to know if theres a way to keep wifi on while in sleep mode? i dont have a data plan and would like to keep my wifi on so i can get emails without having to check ever 20 mins or so. any tips would be great, thanks in advance.

mistamikel said:
hey all, i am a noob when it comes to stuff like this but i wanted to know if theres a way to keep wifi on while in sleep mode? i dont have a data plan and would like to keep my wifi on so i can get emails without having to check ever 20 mins or so. any tips would be great, thanks in advance.
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One way to have it is:
start-settings-system-backlight-adjust power settings-advanced and de select the "turn off if device is not used for:" so this way your device will never power off, just the screen, of course it will consume more battery.
About the mail checking, if you have your account on outlook, there is a way to automatically check your mail every certain time
Hope it helped,

How to get mail for WinMo over WiFi without constant connection

I am not sure if this has been discussed before but searching didn't help much as I am not sure what keyword to use.
I have a Fuze (Touch Pro) without the data service and would like the phone to periodically get the mails over WiFi. I am posting it here assuming this would apply to all WinMo devices. If not, please enlighten me.
In default settings, the phone disconnects WiFi as soon as it goes to sleep. I used Advanced Config to enable WiFi even in sleep, but now it stays connected all the time even though Pocket Outlook is configured to run every 15 minutes. For last several months it has been working this way but it drains the battery very quickly unlike my iPhone, which lasts the more than a day because it connects only to check mails when inactive.
I know with 3G service I don't have worry about it but wondering if there is any utility or setting in registry that would connect periodically for a minute or two so that PO can check for new messages.
Thanks.

How to update at intervals
generally there is an option in the email program you are using. check these options

powersupplyzzzz said:
generally there is an option in the email program you are using. check these options
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Thanks powersupplyzzzz. The interval is already configured in ActiveSync/Pocket Outlook, but it doesn't connect to the WiFi unless it's already connected. Does it work for others? I mean does it connect to WiFi automatically when ActiveSync is ready to sync?

Wondering if I posted in the wrong forum or I am asking for something not possible on WM at the moment ...

rexian said:
Thanks powersupplyzzzz. The interval is already configured in ActiveSync/Pocket Outlook, but it doesn't connect to the WiFi unless it's already connected. Does it work for others? I mean does it connect to WiFi automatically when ActiveSync is ready to sync?
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AFAIK what you are asking is not possible, unless you ask someone to write you a script or there is an app that does this, but i havent come across one.

Thanks timmymarsh, this is what I was afraid of. I guess the old iPhone still has some use for this advantage.

rexian said:
Thanks timmymarsh, this is what I was afraid of. I guess the old iPhone still has some use for this advantage.
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What you need is a car battery that you can strap to your back which will boost your battery when required
I'll have a fish around for a real solution.

[Q] Mango messenger signs out

Hi i'm on WIFI, dont have have data package. The integrated messenger just signs out from time to time....
Its connected to WIFI at all times....when i check the status of my live msessenger/facebook account from a friends pc...it says offline.....i've open the phone goto ME tile>> and under status choose available again...
this is driving me nuts....Kik messenger works flawlessly.... but integrated messenger with live/facebook signsout.........
i tried a soft reset but the problem persists....anybody else having the same probs?
i'm on Mango RTM on samsung focus v1.3

Wifi connection drops when the screen locks, and then re-connects when you unlock.
Maybe this could be the issue? Only 3G data connection is able to run under the lockscreen.

Aphasaic2002 said:
Wifi connection drops when the screen locks, and then re-connects when you unlock.
Maybe this could be the issue? Only 3G data connection is able to run under the lockscreen.
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Thanks that explains it, i hope they change this.....i understand they are doing this to save battery but my iphone doesnt do that and still has an amazing battery life.
Perhaps windows phone should ONLY drop the wifi connection IF the person has chosen the "battery saver option"....otherwise let it be....

If you put it on the charger WIFI won't drop.
Otherwise I have the same problem as you.

regspy said:
Thanks that explains it, i hope they change this.....i understand they are doing this to save battery but my iphone doesnt do that and still has an amazing battery life.
Perhaps windows phone should ONLY drop the wifi connection IF the person has chosen the "battery saver option"....otherwise let it be....
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Actually, iPhone does dropped WiFi when it's locks.

day2die said:
Actually, iPhone does dropped WiFi when it's locks.
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No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....

regspy said:
No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
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This is correct. Persistent wifi connection was a new feature added to iOS4 :
http://www.tipb.com/2010/06/14/ios-4-feature-ipod-touch-wifi-stays-connected-asleep-iphone/
regspy said:
with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....
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If it were that simple, I have a feeling MS would have implemented it. Apple only added it last year, and for Android, you need to root your phone to enable persistent wifi, so guess it's more complex; probably a real battery killer?
Hopefully addressed in the future; it is a pretty huge issue!

I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
Thanks

PsyCLown89 said:
I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
Thanks
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it's push, as soon as someone sends an im, it pops up like a sms

regspy said:
No it doesnt, my iphone at home lies locked but i still get message/email notifications as usuall....
with wp7 its weird....wish someone could find a registry hack....cause with the current microsoft update schedule i doubt we'll see this fixed anytime soon....
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iOS drops wifi at sleep+300 seconds, then "wakes" in background every 300 seconds to prompt/receive push updates.
Sent via my magical HTC Wildfire S.

PsyCLown89 said:
I have a quick question which is a bit off topic.
With the integrated MSN client in Mango.
How often does it check for new messages? How does the checking for messages work?
Thanks
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It's push, your phone establishes a "permanent" connection to a centralized server. Server receives messages, notifications, alerts, and forwards them to your phone via "permanent" link. At sleep, push turns into fetch.
Sent via my magical HTC Wildfire S.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
iOS drops wifi at sleep+300 seconds, then "wakes" in background every 300 seconds to prompt/receive push updates.
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That's interesting, thanks.
Unsure why WP7 doesn't do this. When I first got the phone and set my email to poll every 15 minutes, I expected the wifi to wake up under the lock screen every 15mins and check for new messages. Or at least do a new poll as soon as I unlock and the wifi wakes up?
Instead when you unlock the phone, it checks email 15 mins later - so you end up having to check your email manually. Quite annoying.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
It's push, your phone establishes a "permanent" connection to a centralized server. Server receives messages, notifications, alerts, and forwards them to your phone via "permanent" link. At sleep, push turns into fetch.
Sent via my magical HTC Wildfire S.
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ok, I see. So how does fetch work and what if you walk into an area where you completely lose signal and are using your cellular data connection for msn, then 5 seconds or so later you walk back into a normal fine area with signal. BUT as you lost signal someone sent you a message and/or you sent a message. You obviously won't get it with no signal, will it resend it or something?

Fetch is when your phone retrieves all it can on a regular basis i.e: every 15 minutes. If you walk into a dead spot, your phone'll resume when signal is regained.
Push = permanent link
Fetch = scheduled "grab"
Sent via my magical HTC Wildfire S.

Awesome, exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks!

its a microsoft OS, they developed the direct push tech & active sync...they've been in market far longer (first with windows mobile - yrs of experience developing that)....than google/apple..........
yet its apple who has nailed it with keeping wifi alive even at screen lock without sacrificing battery life.......

PsyCLown89 said:
Awesome, exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks!
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You're welcome
Sent from a mysterious mobile device.

One wired thing, when i'm listining to TunIn Radio, over wifi (Data connection = Off), it continus streaming when i turn off the screen. Maybe they found a workaround.

Does WiFi remain on in Mango update?

In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?

Yes, it is. But it reconnect looooot faster.

Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.

I think you're missing the point, it recconects every so often in standby to download messages/emails/notifications etc it just doesn't stay constantly on.

ammarmalik said:
Wow thank God I actually remembered to ask this before wasting money on a WP7. I don't care how fast it reconnects when it wont be connected in standby. Which means I wont be notified of emails, IMs, social network updates etc etc. Brilliant decision MS.
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Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.

ammarmalik said:
In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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I guess your machine will juiced out within 6 hours if your run WiFi all the time, which is simply no point. I don't think you will charge your phone every 4-5 hours or bring 5-6 batteries along with you.
Phone will turn on WiFi only when you are going to use the internet (while screen on) or when receiving the mails/messages as scheduled (while screen off), so you can still receive your mails and messages when it is idling.

tiny17 said:
Don't know if this is a troll or just a lack of understanding.
You can determine in the options how often you want to to check your various email accounts. For example, one of my accounts I only need checked every hour, while another one I have check ever 15 minutes.
Social network updates are pushed to the phone in real time. I just got a FB notification and the comment had only happened 30 seconds prior.
IM works real time like text.
MS knows what they're doing.
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I think his problem is that he's lacking a data contract(?) In that case he can't get any real time updates, but it should still connect to Wi-Fi for the periodic checks.

Yeah, it will still connect for email. I ran wifi only for a few months.

ammarmalik said:
In pre-mango WP7 phones the WiFi would automatically turn off if your phone was on battery and screen was off. Is this stupid feature still present in Mango or can we make WiFi run ALL THE TIME on battery power?
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It is still connected on WIFI. I use it since using Mango Dev.

WiFi is a little different in mango. If I am using last.fm and turn off the screen, WiFi stays on instead of switching to 3g. Nodo would turn off WiFi.

Few things to note:
Wifi will drop at screen lock if its not utilized. It will sign you out from your messenger and stop receiving emails etc.
If you have DATA (edge or 3G) that will keep the connection alive.
If you have plugged in your phone to a electric socket then and ONLY then the wifi will stay alive at screen lock.
Wifi drops in about 30sec at screen lock.
Android drops wifi at screenlock by default, BUT you have an option under settings to keep it alive. iPhone prior to iOS4 used to drop wifi at screenlock but not anymore and has no impact on battery life what so ever. 3G consumes more battery than Wifi.
wp7 mango is amazingly fast, but no OS is perfect. Probably in future it will be much better. For now if you are dependent on chat, email and other notification then wp7 and Data package work gr8.

All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

hdfanatic said:
All radios im the RTM are sinked, the system will use WiFi if available, and does real time updates. Aging WiFi, GPS, 3G, BT all on when not needed it is plain stupid and will kill your battery in no time. If anyone desires this get Android, there you can turn everything on till your device stops responding altogether... Embrace the way WP works, lots of taught has gone in for someone to simply criticize it like so... I think ur a perfect android customer....
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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If my Android can last one whole day with Wifi on 24 hours(Galaxy S2) then WP7 should last longer. WiFi radio DOES NOT consume a lot of battery. Please get these retarded Android thoughts out of your mind. I'm not exactly aiming for the moon here. All I want is to get my push notifications AS THEY HAPPEN.
Someone mentioned in this thread that it periodically reconnects even with screen off to check for updates. Well if that's the case then I can forget about push notifications right? Because for those to work I'll need internet access on my phone constantly and not on periodic intervals.
I'm not trolling here. This was a genuine problem for me on my old WP7 device. The phone would disconnect WiFi when in standby. I have a perfectly fine working internet connection at home and I'm not about to sign up for an expensive data plan from my cellular network provider.
What I need to know is will I get IM push notifications, email push notifications
on WiFi when my screen has been off for a longer period of time? If I'm not then what exactly is the reason behind this? Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?

ammarmalik said:
Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.

thesecondsfade said:
The simple answer is yes. It's Windows Phone. It's intended to work with a data, voice, and text plan.
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well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month

ammarmalik said:
Does MS except everyone to have a data plan?
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It's a smartphone so... yes. That's why smartphones are usually sold with data plans and that's why Microsoft implemented cloud services like Skydrive and Zune Pass.

ammarmalik said:
well if that's the case then is there any app that I use to limit what app can use how much data and what app can use what kind of data (wifi or cellular?) Because if there isn't then its just a ticking time bomb before I get a bloated bill at the end of the month
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Let me make this easy for you... WP7 is not for you and you should stick with your Galaxy S2 which is a great phone anyway.

My clock is 5-10 minutes late!

Hello everybody,
since I am not allowed to post in the official thread for ARHD until i have at least 10 post, i will do it here.
I flashed ARHD 6.51 a while ago and noticed, that my clock is couple of minutes late. So I decided to sync it with the internet. Nothing happened. I rebooted my device and the clock was showing the correct time - at least for a while. After a few hours, the clock was late again. So I set it to the right time manually. I guess you know what happens next... its late again.
So i superwiped my phone and flashed the latest version of ARHD v. 6.6.2.
At first the clock showed the correct time, but after a few hours it was late AGAIN!
I booted into the recovery and noticed that the time in the recovery was correct. I reseted my phone to factory defaults and still no change.
Does anyone of you know how to fix this?
Greetings,
elyts

Happened to me once while I was on college..
I turned of automatic clock sync and set it manually... When I got home (after 7-8 hours), I turned it on again and it was showing correct time.. Dunno what happened but now its ok for me... It was on older version of ARHD... 6.x.x

try downloading ClockSync from Google Play Store, that syncs your clock really accurately using the internet and you can get it to sync automatically bit of a botch but might do it

lifeisfaked said:
try downloading ClockSync from Google Play Store, that syncs your clock really accurately using the internet and you can get it to sync automatically bit of a botch but might do it
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Wow damn. If I could use all of today's thanks on this one post, I would. I had already accepted that my time would lose sync every couple of days, but ClockSync seems to be doing the trick after unchecking the HTC time sync. Thanks!

rawrfische said:
Wow damn. If I could use all of today's thanks on this one post, I would. I had already accepted that my time would lose sync every couple of days, but ClockSync seems to be doing the trick after unchecking the HTC time sync. Thanks!
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No problem could you do me a massive favour and vote for me in this competition I'm in? See my signature! Thanks

I already downloaded ClockSync. But that is only a way to bypass this problem and not to solve it. I want to know why the clock is always late. Espacially when WiFi is on. This is a 400 € phone. It should at least be able to show me the correct time.

elyts said:
I already downloaded ClockSync. But that is only a way to bypass this problem and not to solve it. I want to know why the clock is always late. Espacially when WiFi is on. This is a 400 € phone. It should at least be able to show me the correct time.
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Hi,
I have the feeling that it is not the phone's fault, hear me out. Your phone does not keep the time, it reads it from your phone provider or wifi if it is connected. My guess is that your phone is reading the wrong time from some of those sources.
And by the way before continuing I would go to Greenwich and check the correct time!
rio

I bookmarked a similar page to check the correct time. So you think my phone doesn't have an internal clock server or something that provides the time if its set manually? I have to correct my last statement. The time is late only when WiFi is enabled.

elyts said:
I bookmarked a similar page to check the correct time. So you think my phone doesn't have an internal clock server or something that provides the time if its set manually? I have to correct my last statement. The time is late only when WiFi is enabled.
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Of course, the phone has an internal clock, but it rather not use it, while there is internet connection. So setting up your time manually will only work until the phone syncs with the sources from your service provider/internet.
If you want to keep your own "manual" time my guess is you would have to disable a few sync options on your phone, one of them being Settings/Date&time/Automatic date&time.
rio

rio911 said:
Of course, the phone has an internal clock, but it rather not use it, while there is internet connection. So setting up your time manually will only work until the phone syncs with the sources from your service provider/internet.
If you want to keep your own "manual" time my guess is you would have to disable a few sync options on your phone, one of them being Settings/Date&time/Automatic date&time.
rio
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Automatic date&time is disabled... Everything i know is that if WiFi is enabled the clock will be late after a few hours. I disabled every possible option that could have something to do with wrong sync or something. And the lower my battery gets, the faster my clock gets slow.. Could it have something to do with WiFi and or battery?

Anybody there?