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i know the sensation have a QSD8260 and evo3D an 8660...
A lot of people are saying, the HTC Sensation runs default at 1.5Ghz... but i think by default run at 1.2Ghz, and 1.5Ghz isn't her default clockspeed...
so my question is... what Differences bewten QSD8260/8660??? only the default clock speed?
thanks and forgive my bad english.
I assume you mean the MSM8260 and MSM8660. They are the same silicon, except one has a dual mode UMTS/CDMA radio and one has just the UMTS. Otherwise, they are identical. One is typically used in UMTS/GSM phones (Sensation) and one in CDMA phones (EVO 3D). There is no difference in default clock speeds.
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I assume you mean the MSM8260 and MSM8660. They are the same silicon, except one has a dual mode UMTS/CDMA radio and one has just the UMTS. Otherwise, they are identical. One is typically used in UMTS/GSM phones (Sensation) and one in CDMA phones (EVO 3D). There is no difference in default clock speeds.
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Just out of curiosity for my roommate here with me in Qatar, I have a question... I don't think it's even possible but I told him I would do some research. Is there a way to make the inspire 4G pick up quad band umts like my incredible 2 does? For instance like flashing a different radio? Thanks for any feedback
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Without trying to be too short, no.
Android's Radio Interface Layer (RIL) provides an abstraction layer between Android telephony services (android.telephony) and radio hardware. The RIL is radio agnostic, and includes support for Global System for Mobile communication (GSM)-based radios.
The Android radio interface is radio-agnostic and the Vendor RIL can use any protocol to communicate with the radio. Android provides a reference Vendor RIL, using the Hayes AT command set, that you can use as a quick start for telephony testing and a guide for commercial vendor RILs
A signal at baseband is often used to modulate a higher frequency carrier wave in order that it may be transmitted via radio. Modulation results in shifting the signal up to much higher frequencies (radio frequencies, or RF) than it originally spanned. A key consequence of the usual double-sideband amplitude modulation (AM) is that, usually, the range of frequencies the signal spans (its spectral bandwidth) is doubled
The simplest definition is that a signal's baseband bandwidth is its bandwidth before modulation and multiplexing
SO I guess HD DESIRE HD listens to 2100 band FOR 3G
while HTC INSPIRE 1900 BAND FOR 3G
AND 3G IN INDIA HAS 2100 BAND
So i guess it should make things work
Im not sure about everything.
Waiting for adminsitrators and senior members to correct me
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Without trying to be too short, no.
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It is a hardware thing. No genius explanation needs to be given. And Inspire 4G/Telus Desire HD is HSDPA 850 / 1900. European/Asain Desire HD is HSDPA 900 / 2100.
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It is a hardware thing. No genius explanation needs to be given. And Inspire 4G/Telus Desire HD is HSDPA 850 / 1900. European/Asain Desire HD is HSDPA 900 / 2100.
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I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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xM Minton Mx said:
I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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Waiting for senior developers to correct me,
Im not at all sure.
xM Minton Mx said:
I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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You can't port hardware.
Since the Inspire 4G and the Desire HD are practically the same device. I wonder if they use the same radio. if they do, I think radio bands could be unlocked to work with a least 850/900/1900/2100MHZ WCDMA bands since the Inspire work on 850/900 and the Desire on 900/2100.
dennis5pia said:
Since the Inspire 4G and the Desire HD are practically the same device. I wonder if they use the same radio. if they do, I think radio bands could be unlocked to work with a least 850/900/1900/2100MHZ WCDMA bands since the Inspire work on 850/900 and the Desire on 900/2100.
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nope, please search before opening a thread that has been beaten to the dirt
Darunion said:
nope, please search before opening a thread that has been beaten to the dirt
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So what radio comes with the Inspire and What radio comes with the Desire HD?
dennis5pia said:
So what radio comes with the Inspire and What radio comes with the Desire HD?
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Like darunion said search. It's like this radios and Rils are different per Rom there is no better one and its all depends where u live and its a trial and error. Personal I never flash radio or Rils very often because each Rom comes with the matching ones. 2nd look in the sticky for the inspire thread for radios and if needed. 3rd desire hd is 99.9999999999% the same but UK but you can flash roms from the desire hd thread but search and search this has been talked 100+ billions of times.
Before you start flashing radios make a backup of what you have just in case.
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ya the flashable radios are just firmware files. the frequency range that the qualcomm chip is using is set at the manufacturer. it cannot be changed, unless someone here works for qualcomm and can help out
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Like darunion said search. It's like this radios and Rils are different per Rom there is no better one and its all depends where u live and its a trial and error. Personal I never flash radio or Rils very often because each Rom comes with the matching ones. 2nd look in the sticky for the inspire thread for radios and if needed. 3rd desire hd is 99.9999999999% the same but UK but you can flash roms from the desire hd thread but search and search this has been talked 100+ billions of times.
Before you start flashing radios make a backup of what you have just in case.
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I am talking about radio chip, not radio firmware. so I mean hardware not software.
Darunion said:
ya the flashable radios are just firmware files. the frequency range that the qualcomm chip is using is set at the manufacturer. it cannot be changed, unless someone here works for qualcomm and can help out
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Actually you don't need to work for Qualcomm to change it. I asked about Inspire and Desire Radio chip because I have a Droid Bionic which is "LTE-CDMA". but since it uses the Qualcomm MDM6600 radio chip which is CDMA/GSM capable, but GSM part is desactivated by Verizon. So searching in the Droid Bionic forum I could find the way to activate the GSM radio, turning the Droid bionic into a Global GSM smartphone.
So, I think the Inspire and the Desired has built in with the same Radio chip, but with certain WCDMA bands activated/desactivated depending on the model.
I just wanted to know the radio chip model, since I couldn't find it searching the web. I bet they use the same radio and there must be a way to activate all bands..
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Since the Inspire 4G and the Desire HD are practically the same device. I wonder if they use the same radio. if they do, I think radio bands could be unlocked to work with a least 850/900/1900/2100MHZ WCDMA bands since the Inspire work on 850/900 and the Desire on 900/2100.
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well by this it seems like your talking about firmware.. might want to edit that and your headline of this thread.
Model: HTC Inspire 4G
CPU: Qualcomm QSD8255
Name: Desire HD
CPU: Qualcomm MSM8255
It's two different chip sets, so I would be very cautious to flash a HD radio. You can try, and let us know if you have a brick or not!
Darunion said:
Model: HTC Inspire 4G
CPU: Qualcomm QSD8255
Name: Desire HD
CPU: Qualcomm MSM8255
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Where did you find this info?
according to Wikipedia and gsmarena is the same chipset:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3706&idPhone2=3468
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It's two different chip sets, so I would be very cautious to flash a HD radio. You can try, and let us know if you have a brick or not!
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In fact is the same chipset: Qualcomm MSM8255. I am using the ARHD and is all the same for both of them: Radio and Roms. The thing is that the Desire HD has the 900/2100 UMTS bands enabled, and the Inspire the 850/1900.
According to the internet the Qualcomm MSM8255 chipset handle all UMTS bands but It can only have 3 of them enabled. So I am just interested in the 850/900 bands. So if I found a way to change the radio basebands I could enable the 900 band to my Inspire. But I couldn't find anything about it in the Web..
from qualcomms website. but who are they to argue with wikipedia lmao. its all 2nd hand info, until u urself crack open each phone its all just web info
Darunion said:
Model: HTC Inspire 4G
CPU: Qualcomm QSD8255
Name: Desire HD
CPU: Qualcomm MSM8255
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dennis5pia said:
Where did you find this info?
according to Wikipedia and gsmarena is the same chipset:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3706&idPhone2=3468
In fact is the same chipset: Qualcomm MSM8255. I am using the ARHD and is all the same for both of them: Radio and Roms. The thing is that the Desire HD has the 900/2100 UMTS bands enabled, and the Inspire the 850/1900.
According to the internet the Qualcomm MSM8255 chipset handle all UMTS bands but It can only have 3 of them enabled. So I am just interested in the 850/900 bands. So if I found a way to change the radio basebands I could enable the 900 band to my Inspire. But I couldn't find anything about it in the Web..
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from qualcomms website. but who are they to argue with wikipedia lmao. its all 2nd hand info, until u urself crack open each phone its all just web info
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if you got it from qualcomm it has to be true.. so let me see the info from the qualcomm website, I cant find anything about the QSD8255 chipset..
https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-inspire-4g
https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-desire-hd
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https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-inspire-4g
https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-desire-hd
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uh.. but the Desire HD is not from AT&T.
I can't find information about the QSD8255 in the qualcomm website neither the web, just some websites that claim the Desire HD also have it too..what a contradiction in the web..
NM8PD98120 is the FCC ID of the inspire if you want to do more digging.
you also have to consider, it may not even allow frequency changes from any kind of software side. Without a datasheet (which qualcomm wont allow public view) you wont know what components youll have to change out on the board to open up those additional ranges. And with phones having such a small life span (~2yrs till trade ins) not many are going to reverse engineer something they will replace soon.
which you could learn what to tinker with if you had both motherboards side by side and probed the pins
Hi dennis5pia,
Wondering if you had any luck in getting 850/1900 out of your Desire HD?
I know of 2 different Desire HD models the
1) A9191 (with 900/2100) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2598&view=1&c=htc_desire_hd_a9191_htc_ace
2) A9192 (850/1900) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2727&view=1&c=htc_inspire_4g_a9192_htc_stallion
I'm wanting to see if I can modify my A9191 to become a A9192.
Qualcomm's website doesn't even mention the A9192, but looking at the specs it certainly shares a lot with each other - including the same MSM8255
Whilst not as big a "jump" from a Desire HD to an Inspire 4G, I'd be happy just to get 3G on our Telstra NextG (850) network here in Australia.
Keen to know if anyone else has investigated changing between the 2 Desire HD models or successfully done this?
Kind Regards,
David.
David_PDA2K said:
Hi dennis5pia,
Wondering if you had any luck in getting 850/1900 out of your Desire HD?
I know of 2 different Desire HD models the
1) A9191 (with 900/2100) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2598&view=1&c=htc_desire_hd_a9191_htc_ace
2) A9192 (850/1900) http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2727&view=1&c=htc_inspire_4g_a9192_htc_stallion
I'm wanting to see if I can modify my A9191 to become a A9192.
Qualcomm's website doesn't even mention the A9192, but looking at the specs it certainly shares a lot with each other - including the same MSM8255
Whilst not as big a "jump" from a Desire HD to an Inspire 4G, I'd be happy just to get 3G on our Telstra NextG (850) network here in Australia.
Keen to know if anyone else has investigated changing between the 2 Desire HD models or successfully done this?
Kind Regards,
David.
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I have the Inspire 4G not the Desire HD. Anyway there is a Desire HD from Telus (I think) that is a9192 and 850/900.
I couldn't be able to enable any other WCDMA band to my device. All I know is that most of the smartphone has a radiochip that can handle all WCDMA bands, but for hardware limitations they couldn't have all of them active or the carrier just lock some bands.
the MSM8255 handle all WCDMA bands but can only have 3 of them enable, but carrieres just enable 2 of them.
Hi, Thanks for the quick reply.
Yes I'm aware of other providers that have the A9192, but don't really want to go to the trouble of selling my A9191 phone & then buy a A9192 - would be great if I could just flash a new firmware onto the phone to switch off / remove the 900/2100 & then switch on the 850/1900 band - turning mine into a A9192.
So, whilst you haven't had any luck with your Inspire 4g do you know if anyone has been able to unlock / change bands on any of these HTC phones where the Qualcomm chipset supports other bands?
Best Regards,
David.
David_PDA2K said:
Hi, Thanks for the quick reply.
Yes I'm aware of other providers that have the A9192, but don't really want to go to the trouble of selling my A9191 phone & then buy a A9192 - would be great if I could just flash a new firmware onto the phone to switch off / remove the 900/2100 & then switch on the 850/1900 band - turning mine into a A9192.
So, whilst you haven't had any luck with your Inspire 4g do you know if anyone has been able to unlock / change bands on any of these HTC phones where the Qualcomm chipset supports other bands?
Best Regards,
David.
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I haven't had any luck on this. I don't know anyone who had unlocked/changed/enabled bands on this phones.
I also found out that the Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon can handle 42Mbps but our phones only support 14.4Mbps. Companies just fool us..
Here is a link to a hardware mod site, that may be able to help.
I'll follow up with them & let you know if I have any luck.
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-inspire-4g-a9192-htc-stallion-unbrick-boot-imei-cid-modelid-unlock-supported/
Hi I have a One S with MSM8960 which I know is the S4 version, but more importantly it seems to support 4G/LTE (since it is the same chip used in the American version of the ONE X). Im in the UK with T-Mobile so its of no use right now since we only have 3G networks, but T-Mobile is launching the UK first ever 4G network so I was wondering whether I could make use of it. Ive searched Google extensively and can only find one other person with the MSM8960 here on xda. Either way this version of the ONE S is advertised nowhere and I want to know if my phone can really support 4G and if so how can I enable it.
Thanks
One S doesn't support LTE.
I am also msm8960 ....Bell phone
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One S doesn't support LTE.
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The s4 processor in the one s is supposed to be different than the one in the one x. One X has lte.. One s doesn't. However the one in the One X is the msm8960 and it does support lte.
We are supposed to have the msm8260a which doesn't.
But his chipset says 8960.
Are you tuning a custom Rom?
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KACE321 said:
Hi I have a One S with MSM8960 which I know is the S4 version, but more importantly it seems to support 4G/LTE (since it is the same chip used in the American version of the ONE X). Im in the UK with T-Mobile so its of no use right now since we only have 3G networks, but T-Mobile is launching the UK first ever 4G network so I was wondering whether I could make use of it. Ive searched Google extensively and can only find one other person with the MSM8960 here on xda. Either way this version of the ONE S is advertised nowhere and I want to know if my phone can really support 4G and if so how can I enable it.
Thanks
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The one x and one s use the same board, and the same processor. On the kernel level, they all use the msm8960 chipset. However, the one s is named msm8260a because it is a variant of the msm8960 family, but without lte.
So to clarify things, yes, the one s has the msm8960 chip, but there is zero chance that we have lte.
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OK so a bit more research, when I use "quadrant system information" it lists my processor as MSM8960, how does it list your fellow S4 phones? And the One S in America under T-Mobile does support 4G?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-S-Gradient-Blue
http://htc.t-mobile.com/one/s-4g-phone
Im in the UK btw, I am on ViperROM 1.1.1, do you think install the USA RUU would help?
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OK so a bit more research, when I use "quadrant system information" it lists my processor as MSM8960, how does it list your fellow S4 phones? And the One S in America under T-Mobile does support 4G?
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=HTC-One-S-Gradient-Blue
http://htc.t-mobile.com/one/s-4g-phone
Im in the UK btw, I am on ViperROM 1.1.1, do you think install the USA RUU would help?
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Our 4g in America is just fast 3g. Same a what you have in some areas.
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So what my phone does support 4g
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So what my phone does support 4g
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That information is build.prop related, so if they ported it from the One X...
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The One S can Never Ever support LTE, what a carrier says in its marketing doesnt make it true and even so TMOUS never said it has LTE, they just brand the fastest 3G tech (DC-HSPA+) as 4G.
I dont know about Three UK but Three Sweden has DC-HSPA and its real nice. But sure install a TMOUS RUU or a TMOUS based Sense ROM and you will get a 4G icon whenever youre on any 3G network.
The MSM8260A isnt part of the MSM8960 "family", but they're bort part of the Snapdragon S4 Plus "family". The difference is mostly what the included modem can do, check https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
Probably Quadrant that said the One S had a MSM8960 is wrong, either because the ROM-makers didnt bother to change a string as suggested here or because Quadrant doesnt give a **** about what radio interface you have
I took this from my build.prop
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# system props for telephony modules
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#device supports LTE
ro.config.lte=true
#device supports EHRPD
#ro.config.ehrpd=true
#device supports simultaneous 1x voice + LTE
#ro.config.svlte1x=true
# Modify MMS APN retry timer from 5s to 2s.
ro.gsm.2nd_data_retry_config = max_retries=3, 2000, 2000, 2000
Is there anyway I can try and test/enable it, if the t-mobile us version supports 4g then there must be some one s' in production that have LTE support
T-Mob UK will be releasing 4G on the current 1900MHz 2G frequency, so it *might* support it.
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I took this from my build.prop
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# system props for telephony modules
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#device supports LTE
ro.config.lte=true
#device supports EHRPD
#ro.config.ehrpd=true
#device supports simultaneous 1x voice + LTE
#ro.config.svlte1x=true
# Modify MMS APN retry timer from 5s to 2s.
ro.gsm.2nd_data_retry_config = max_retries=3, 2000, 2000, 2000
Is there anyway I can try and test/enable it, if the t-mobile us version supports 4g then there must be some one s' in production that have LTE support
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Yeah try these as well while you're at it, only the first two changes the actual hardware in your phone though.
Code:
ro.micro-arc-oxidation-failure=disable
ro.display.pentile-matrix=0
ro.android-version="Key Lime Pie"
Sarcasm aside, if you dont want to bother reading the boring stuff that people post here about 4G not necessarily being the same thing as LTE then just go to somewhere with an LTE network and try it... I could be wrong, failure is always an option. Please post back what LTE frequency the One S supports as well when you get it working
How does the Vodafone Germany HTC One XL differ from other carrier / location specific variants of the Qualcomm based phones like the Australian Telstra One XL or the Northern American AT&T HTC One X ?
Some specs from the website:
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Qualcomm MSM 8960 Dual-Core 1,5 GHz
Internal storage 32GB
130g
LTE (Frequencies not specified)
If this has been answered previously I'm sorry and would like to ask a moderator to close the thread. It would be nice to create a table comparing all available variants.
Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.
It looks you have 32Gb internal storage like international one and Dual-Core 1.5 GHz MSM8960 Qualcomm Snapdragon processor like xl variant. 32GB is big plus!!
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Ok I just compared the Qualcomm One X Linux Kernel sources from htc developers evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-271616b.zip (AT&T USA) and evita-ics-crc-3.0.8-a6dad.zip (Vodafone
Germany).
29 files differ, the majority is non platform specific networking stuff. The platform specific changes are of cosmetic nature and I doubt they are a result of different board revisions, indicative for a match of AT&T USA One X and Vodafone Germany One XL hardware.
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does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.
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does that mean i could flash a AT&T One X with a german One XL stock rom? and the LTE band/frequencies would be changed too? ie. utilizing 4G/LTE network in Germany? sorry, my questions maybe silly, i am noob.
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You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.
I have an One XL from Vodafone Germany, too. At the moment I am using King Cobra 1.5 ROM and everything is working fine on T-Mobile Germany network. Can't tell if LTE is working coz i don't have the high speed internet option in my contract but edge, 3g and hsdpa/hsupa is working without any problem.
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You can flash the rom and everything will work, but you still won't get LTE in Germany. The radio frequencies are set in hardware, and they aren't the same as the North American HOX variant. Everything else should work though, and you'll still get HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+ depending on your carrier.
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What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?
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What do you mean the radio frequencies are set in hardware (like radio rom?) and how do you know?
Does anybody know how to check which LTE frequencies are available on a device?
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I am not 100% sure how much anyone has actually tested, I think most is based on assumptions.
There is many LTE bands and most just expect the amps in the One XL wont suit all frequencies.
Likely type A: 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz
This would suit Europe, Australia and Asia.
Likely type B: 700, 800, 1700, 1900 MHz
This would suit North America.