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Smart money says this is why att has been stalling the release of 2.2 for the captivate. To all those who speculate that the cappy won't get official 2.2 i offer counter speculation that they will announce the push sometime between the 13th after the bloatware ATT apmobile launch and the end of February.
AT&T Details Pricing, Launch of AT&T Mobile Hotspot App Coming February 13
Application Provides Additional 2GB of Data, Bundled with AT&T Data Pro
Dallas, Texas, February 02, 2011
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AT&T* today announced select smartphone customers will soon be able to connect multiple devices from their smartphone – via Wi-Fi – thanks to the new AT&T Mobile Hotspot application. The feature will first be available February 13, beginning with the in-store launch of the HTC Inspire™ 4G. Bundled with the AT&T Data Pro plan, customers will benefit from a total of 4GB for $45 per month.
In addition, also on February 13th, to bring AT&T’s smartphone tethering plan in line with the AT&T Mobile Hotspot offer, AT&T will automatically add the additional 2GB of monthly data usage to smartphone customers already on a tethering plan – at no extra charge. Customers will incur the same $20 monthly fee they’re accustomed to paying, only now they’ll receive an extra 2GB of data each month.
AT&T Mobile Hotspot details include:
* Connectivity for multiple wireless devices to AT&T’s mobile broadband network
* 2 GB of data usage for $20 a month, bundled with AT&T’s Data Pro plan ($25 / 2GB)
* The combined AT&T Data Pro plus AT&T Mobile Hotspot will provide 4GB for $45 per month
* 4GB applies to collective use among all devices
* Overage fee of $10 per gigabyte
“Our customers want to connect as many devices as possible to the nation’s fastest mobile broadband network, which is getting faster with 4G,” said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. “We want to extend the benefits of an additional 2GB to smartphone customers on our tethering plan. This delivers more value today for the price they’re already paying – and that’s what our customers want.”
Customers will receive a text message from AT&T – as soon as February 13 – once the additional 2GB has been auto-added to their plan.
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As far as I know, they have not yet announced which devices would be supported by this, and the requirements.
It's certainly a logical conclusion to make, but given the complete silence both companies have maintained, who knows what else is causing the delay (and of course, it does not help to explain why the Fascinate and Evo haven't seen their overdue upgrades either).
Already speculated in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939114
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As far as I know, they have not yet announced which devices would be supported by this, and the requirements.
It's certainly a logical conclusion to make, but given the complete silence both companies have maintained, who knows what else is causing the delay (and of course, it does not help to explain why the Fascinate and Evo haven't seen their overdue upgrades either).
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any device that has 2.2 or higher should be supported.
If you have a custom Rom, then it's already in there without paying....
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If you have a custom Rom, then it's already in there without paying....
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most everyone here would be aware of that.
But that could be the reason for the delay. The official leaked firmware also has it FREE. ATT has likely been developing this to have a way to lock it down in the official release and force those using the official update to pay for the ability.
To me that is ignorant (especially in the case of someone with a capped data plan). For instance, if you have a 2gb data cap why should it matter whether you burned through your 2gb on your phone or through a laptop tethered to it?
Would roms built on the at&t 2.2 have free tethering? Basically would it be possible to combine codes and get around at&t?
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Would roms built on the at&t 2.2 have free tethering? Basically would it be possible to combine codes and get around at&t?
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should be people have gotten around it on tmobile. there is a file that has to be removed i think from system or framework then it works.
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should be people have gotten around it on tmobile. there is a file that has to be removed i think from system or framework then it works.
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Awesome. I haven't used it yet but I haven't been where I needed my laptop instead of my phone. It's good to know it's there though.
Also, are they going to lock down wifi access point through the phone? It's basically the same thing right, a computer using the 3g network to go online?
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Also, are they going to lock down wifi access point through the phone?
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That's the tethering we're talking about here. WiFi AP = Mobile HotSpot. I know in the case of Rogers 2.2, wifi APP will tunnel through a hidden app to verify your account before it alow you to connect. However, if you root your phone and delete that specific apk file from system/app folder, the wifi AP will work like normal. I believe Vibrant ROM is the same thing.
Although, when AT&T said it will offer a Mobile HotSpot app, I'm not sure if it will require another separate AT&T app so that you can not easily bypass it. If that's the case, it will involve devs here to update the kernel to add the wifi AP back.
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This all sounds like The X-Files to me
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Although, when AT&T said it will offer a Mobile HotSpot app, I'm not sure if it will require another separate AT&T app so that you can not easily bypass it. If that's the case, it will involve devs here to update the kernel to add the wifi AP back.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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thats non-sense for 2 reasons.
1. If you are on a capped data plan. They shouldn't care whether you tether/mobile ap or not. You use your 2GB and go over you get billed regardless of whether the data was used specifically on your phone or a laptop via tethering. You tell me the difference.
2. I DONT ABUSE the service. I have had my phone since June and i have used mobile/AP twice. Both instances were severe storms where my home internet was knocked out and i got on via tether or mobileAP long enough to get updated news on the weather. I never go over the cap and over the course of 12 months might have 3-4 times when tether/mobile AP would be needed in the event of home internet being down in which case i am not doing any significant data usage.
3. The part of the problem with slowdowns is a provider not a user problem. Its called investing in your infrastructure to meet the needs of your customers. There is a need and desire for unlimited data plans (not to mention the only legitimate reason to have a paid plan for tethering is if someone has unlimited data which they no longer offer). You get charged $10 for each GB of data you go over your limit so why not let people on capped plans police their own tethering and pay for the overages when/if they use it. (for instance....if your capped @ 2gb and you use 4GB your billed and addition $20 ..so $25 data plan + $20 overage data fee...or $45 total the same price as tethering. So now what if some months you only used 3GB.....if it was all on your phone your data was $35....why should it cost $10 more or $45 if the data was moved via tethering. In summation the way the data is used is not relevant....it is the amount of data. I think even for those with "unlimited" data there is a soft cap @ around 5GB so your argument doesn't make much sense coupled with the fact that alot of the heavy data usage has come from iphone users with unlimited plans who are using a large amount of data via their iphone NOT TETHERING.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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So, tell me this: when AT&T deliberately disabled HSUPA on Captivate (you're capped at 300kbps upload max while iPhone can go over 1mbps upload), what kind of abuse AT&T tries to prevent us doing?
I use tethering very rarely but I want to keep my options open. My monthly average data usage is about 300MB. Compared to some others posted here that uses 1 or 2GB a day even without tethering, it is safe to say I'm not the one cause AT&T's network problem.
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So, tell me this: when AT&T deliberately disabled HSUPA on Captivate (you're capped at 300kbps upload max while iPhone can go over 1mbps upload), what kind of abuse AT&T tries to prevent us doing?
I use tethering very rarely but I want to keep my options open. My monthly average data usage is about 300MB. Compared to some others posted here that uses 1 or 2GB a day even without tethering, it is safe to say I'm not the one cause AT&T's network problem.
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Nevermind him...he doesn't have clue 1 what he is talking about.
Att themselves admitted that they data congestion and slowness was due to the iphone users and underestimating how much data they would be and were using. (most of which had nothing to do with tethering).
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There is a need and desire for unlimited data plans (not to mention the only legitimate reason to have a paid plan for tethering is if someone has unlimited data which they no longer offer). You get charged $10 for each GB of data you go over your limit so why not let people on capped plans police their own tethering and pay for the overages when/if they use it. (for instance....if your capped @ 2gb and you use 4GB your billed and addition $20 ..so $25 data plan + $20 overage data fee...or $45 total the same price as tethering. So now what if some months you only used 3GB.....if it was all on your phone your data was $35....why should it cost $10 more or $45 if the data was moved via tethering. In summation the way the data is used is not relevant....it is the amount of data. I think even for those with "unlimited" data there is a soft cap @ around 5GB so your argument doesn't make much sense coupled with the fact that alot of the heavy data usage has come from iphone users with unlimited plans who are using a large amount of data via their iphone NOT TETHERING.
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Each of the major carriers are facing similar problems with the top 5-10% of people consuming a large portion of the data and causing load on the network. T-mobile addressed the problem by throttling data once you pass a certain point. Verizon just changed their terms of service today and is addressing the problem by throttling the top 5% of data users for up to 61 days (depending on where you are in your billing cycle): http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/verizon-can-now-throttle-top-five-percent-of-bandwidth-hogs-down/ . AT&T is addressing the problem with tiered data plans and charging per 1GB overage.
Personally, I wish the carriers would give you an option. Option 1, unlimited data with a $20 tethering charge and throttling if you exceed a certain amount. Or Option 2, a tiered data plan for a set price and no tethering charge, pay as you go per 1 GB overage.
While I know people will be upset if they can't get unlimited data + tethering for $15 per month because that is what they had with their old mediamax plan, I think it is an acceptable compromise for the carriers to charge heavy data users more money so they can invest it in making the infrastructure faster and adding more coverage. I'd just like to have more choice in how it works.
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...To me that is ignorant (especially in the case of someone with a capped data plan). For instance, if you have a 2gb data cap why should it matter whether you burned through your 2gb on your phone or through a laptop tethered to it?
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Because to AT&T that is all money in their pockets.
If you have a 2GB data plan, that doe snot mean you will use 2GB that month, or any month. AT&T knows this. They also know that if you have multiple avenues to tap into that 2GB, you will be more likely to use more of it.
I have the unlimited plan, and while I was on a blackberry I think my highest utilization in a month was 200 MB. Multiply that by a few million customers and you can see there is a huge potential for overloading AT&T's network if they all decided to start using even half of their cap in a month.
I am not defending AT&T's move here, but I can see their reasoning behind making tethering difficult for the average customer to get.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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The other carriers dont seem to have this issue. I dont believe they should legally be able to charge for tethering or doing anything else IP related on a data plan. They're free to charge whatever they want per kilobyte used or they can cut people off if they go over and they really can't handle the excess usage. If you aren't familiar with net neutrality then I'm sure that sounds like a scary assertion. It's far from a simple topic though and there is more at stake than ATT's rights as a company.
If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with.
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If you're on the opposing side of net neutrality then you're part of a much, much larger problem.
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Because to AT&T that is all money in their pockets.
If you have a 2GB data plan, that doe snot mean you will use 2GB that month, or any month. AT&T knows this. They also know that if you have multiple avenues to tap into that 2GB, you will be more likely to use more of it.
I have the unlimited plan, and while I was on a blackberry I think my highest utilization in a month was 200 MB. Multiply that by a few million customers and you can see there is a huge potential for overloading AT&T's network if they all decided to start using even half of their cap in a month.
I am not defending AT&T's move here, but I can see their reasoning behind making tethering difficult for the average customer to get.
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2gb's is 2gb's. Charging for tethering is like charging me more for 2 gallons of gasoline in a rectangular shaped gas can than you charge for 2 gallons of gasoline in a cylindrical shaped can.
Even in your scenario....longterm taking advantage of your customers in a scam doesn't make sense and it still negates that fact that many of the high data users aren't tethering they are iphone users who do all of their internet use on their phone (including people streaming netflix to their iphones). If a user uses 2gb all tethering they shouldn't be charged more than an iphone user who uses 2gb all on their phone.
I totally agree. Charge for tethering has more to do with extra $$ in carrier's pocket than anything else. If your network can't handle the load, throttling on everyone is an acceptable solution, not just the top data hog. Top data hog can be dealt with a cap.
What I don't like is they offer so called 'unlimited' plan then if you use over a few GBs, they start to apply soft caps, either cut you off or throttle you down significantly (T-Mo). This kind of practice should be illegal.
I'd propose following data plan schema:
1. Two tiered: premium vs economic. Premium tier offer a 2 or 4GB hard cap at full speed. Over the cap, you can opt to pay $$$ per GB or simply cut off data connection. Economic tier offer 250 to 350 MB hard cap with much lower speed. Over the cap, you can opt to pay $$$ per MB or simply cut off data connection.
2. Throttling: if network congestion happens, everyone on the network at that moment get throttled down equally until the network traffic eases. Basically, offer a minimum QoS guarantee.
3. Get rid of tethering charge. It can be totally covered by #1 and #2.
Of course, it makes too much sense. No carrier will do it.
My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop.
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you can pay most bills with the smartphone browsers. i only tether for streaming stock quotes (java applets) when i'm away from home. can your ipad or ipad2 does that? haha
this is why i rather carry my sony 4.5" UMPC when i'm away from home.
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My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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Nooo! This is very concerning....
I also agree that everyone should be able to use their monthly allotted amount of data however they please.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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huh??
i have the 2GB plan, does it really matter how i use that 2GB? (laptop or phone?)
if i have cable, i can hook it up any ways i want! (to 50" HDTV, desktop, or laptop)
It's bad enough they (at&t) screwed themselves with the ipads, but now you they really want to be like apple n charge you twice because of it. Why should you have to have 2 data plans to use 1 data feature anyway?
I think it was really more for people like me that have unlimited data plans. I can use an ass-load more data with my laptop than I could with my phone.
Either way, a feature is a feature is a feature. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last big company to charge for stuff like that. As much as you or I don't agree with it (I really hate stuff like this), it's not enough to justify theft. I refuse to pay for tethering, so I just don't do it...
Also, if you read some of the Android guru's talking about the handset manufacturers all starting to lock their bootloaders. This is the reason. Before, when it was just us goofing about with our own devices and hurting noone, especially not the carrier, they couldn't care less. As we start moving into LTE with a tethering option, you'll see almost every single Android handset maker locking their phones down. Just look at the Thunderbolt... HTC has always been a big proponent of the Android dev scene, but they signed that bootloader. If you think it was for any other reason than to stop people from tethering and flooding Verizon's LTE network, you're crazy. Verizon may have forced their hand, but it's still done. Neither AT&T or Verizon want to have to deal with what AT&T had to with the iPhone saturation killing their network speeds(and the crap reputation it's brought them) when it comes to their new LTE networks. They'll do whatever they have to in order to guarantee the majority of their customers get a pleasant network experience. Even if that means making "Suggestions" to handset makers. Motorola did it, HTC did it, Samsung is next, then LG. And ultimately, we're going to be the ones to blame. That's just the way I've been seeing things. I may be completely off base...
*NOTE* The thunderbold has been hacked. Maybe there's hope after all.
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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I had AT&T update my IMEI because I was going to be using a non-smartphone for "traveling" and had them put in an unlimited $10 data. Went ahead and popped my SIM into my Inspire, and I've only gotten two messages and an e-mail that they recognized I'm using a 4G SIM and that they've changed my plan accordingly. I called and checked my account online, and both show that I've still got the feature, so it's been working; plus, I've been using WiFi hotspot for my laptop this whole time.
Hope they don't catch on!
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At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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You're not going to get 4G speeds with HSPA+. It's a 3.5G technology. The same thing that T-Mobile has been touting as 4G for the last year. They had great speed on their network because no one was using it... That's not being mean, it's just the way it is. If AT&T has this infrastructure and it was only 40% utilized, every current 4G phone (Atrix & Inspire) would be getting 10-14mb down.
I'm in Northern Atlanta (The home of AT&T wireless), and I get 5mb down and 2mb up late at night. During prime time, I pull 2.5mb down and 2mb up.
This will all change when AT&T starts rolling out their LTE network. It should be showing the exact same speeds as Verizon's. They're both similar in size, and running the exact same technology.
Hi all,
I'm considering whether to get a TF now, or wait until a 3G version comes out.
Based on some specs it seems 3G will be offered as an option, but it's unclear whether the 3G can be a home-installed add-on, a store-installed add-on, something factory installed that can't be retrofitted to a wifi-only system, or (shudder) something only available through carriers.
I'm prepared to wait, but would prefer to buy a wifi-only one now if I had confidence that I could add on the 3G when it became available.
Can anyone shed some light on how the TF will include 3G?
Thanks!
I think that you would have to wait for asus to make one with 3G. I think I remember seeing someone mention sometime in summer for 3G.
I highly doubt 3g will be an add-on.
Do you not have an Android phone?
Why get 3g just use your mobiles connection
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Sure, I could tether to a phone. However I'd like to reduce the amount of gear that I need to carry around, keep charged, etc.
A Mifi unit or something would work well. I keep one in the business card slot of my laptop bag and plan to shift it over to the tablet case once mine is delivered.
Hey guys,
Rogers doesn't allow tethering for my LTE plan (( I have a i727) what other ways can I tether without paying?
What plan do you have? I have been tethering on a LTE plan without extra cost...
I downloaded 2.8GB of data in under 8 minutes tethered in Toronto on LTE...wanted to see how quickly I could use the rest of my data lol.
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Hey guys. I'm assuming you both own the SGS2 LTE from Rogers. How are they? Do your devices also have the screen defect? How long have you had your devices? I'm asking because I want to get one, but am reluctant because of the screen defect many of the devices have.
huh
im tethering all the time lol , no charges
RoLo. said:
Hey guys. I'm assuming you both own the SGS2 LTE from Rogers. How are they? Do your devices also have the screen defect? How long have you had your devices? I'm asking because I want to get one, but am reluctant because of the screen defect many of the devices have.
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Lol thread jacking much? I don't have the screen defect as stated in this forum and the t989 forum.
Coming from the gt-i9100m, the screen isn't quite as sharp but it's almost identical.
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had a gs2 since august 20, but my 727r since december 5
i like the phone alot. I miss the amount of development that was on the 9100m, but whatever. There is still good dev's helping out and the phone works well. Not quite as fast, not as much support with some games, but it's coming along...oh...and LTE works really well.....heh.
apparently my 2gb lte plan doesnt come with tethering access & on the rogers bill when I switched from a blackberry 1gb data to the 2gb lte plan they removed tethering access. I had the phone since it came out, its nice but sometimes overheats. The screen could be better
What does really prevent you from tethering? Forget the stupid "restrictions" on paper. I'm not on an LTE plan but despite Rogers' contract specifically stating that my 6GB data plan cannot be used for tethering, I was tethering both wireless and/or USB without any problems or additional charges. Give it a try, I just don't see how they could prevent it. The phone comes with everything you need.
@ RoLo
As far as the phone itself, I have been using it for about 2 months now and I'm quite pleased with it - no screen defect/problems. The only downfall is the battery - definitely not the worst among Android devices but with only 8-10 hrs of medium-heavy duty usage I needed to buy another battery just to make sure it survives the day without additional charge.
Rogers LTE Data Plans do include tethering.
If you have LTE you should jump on the 6 gig my 10 plan.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
HowardZ said:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
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It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
Hope this helps.
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It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
Hope this helps.
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That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
thanks,
Howard
HowardZ said:
That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
thanks,
Howard
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
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Howard
HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
Regards,
Howard
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I completely agree with you. That is why I think that the Surface (WIntel 8) devices will be very successful.
HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
Regards,
Howard
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If you want it all in one, have you thought about getting a 4G version later this year?
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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jtrosky said:
I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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While you may be right, the battery of the device providing the tethering does suffer from battery drain, so an internal 4G LTE modem would be nice to have, but it appears that you are right about the popularity of such a feature. I believe I read that the XOOM WIFI outsold the XOOM that came out first with VZW due to the lower price. I had the VZW XOOM, but to be honest, I usually used it on Wifi, hardly ever using the built in 3G/LTE, I understand why people would want to have a USB modem so that they could use any Cellular carrier regardless of the device they want to buy.
Archos tablets have an optional USB stick for 3G GSM cellular connectivity.
However it is for european use only.
http://www.archos.com/store/g9_3g_stick.html?country=gb&lang=en
So, this exists for some tablets in some countries.
jtrosky said:
I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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I want it for the CPU. I dont care for the Tegra 3.
Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
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I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
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Actually, there is no additional data plan required if you have the share plan. And whatever the cost, it would be the same for the USB as the MiFi, but the MiFi can drive more than one device at the same time.
Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
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Seems I stand corrected. The 4G LTE is based off GSM, so at least that would work in GSM areas (though perhaps not at 4G speeds). Phone communication still uses CDMA unless its a dual phone that can use GSM or CDMA. GSM functionality is not natively inherent to Verizon's phone nor CDMA. If you want to test it here in the states, move from Verizon to AT&T or T-mobile. If it works that way then it will work in a GSM environment.
Why Verizon 4G LTE smartphones are a bad choice for world travelers
Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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Well, now that's cool about the RAZR... might have to read up on that 'un.
But what I meant is that one needs to find a specific functionality that allows for such roaming. Buying Verizon does not automatically get GSM nor does having CDMA automatically work worldwide. One needs to find a device where it is specifically mentioned, such as that RAZR you indicated.