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Tethering with out plan! Message from att

My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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vwood2121 said:
but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop.
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you can pay most bills with the smartphone browsers. i only tether for streaming stock quotes (java applets) when i'm away from home. can your ipad or ipad2 does that? haha
this is why i rather carry my sony 4.5" UMPC when i'm away from home.

vwood2121 said:
My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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Nooo! This is very concerning....
I also agree that everyone should be able to use their monthly allotted amount of data however they please.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.

Divinedark said:
It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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huh??
i have the 2GB plan, does it really matter how i use that 2GB? (laptop or phone?)
if i have cable, i can hook it up any ways i want! (to 50" HDTV, desktop, or laptop)

It's bad enough they (at&t) screwed themselves with the ipads, but now you they really want to be like apple n charge you twice because of it. Why should you have to have 2 data plans to use 1 data feature anyway?

I think it was really more for people like me that have unlimited data plans. I can use an ass-load more data with my laptop than I could with my phone.
Either way, a feature is a feature is a feature. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last big company to charge for stuff like that. As much as you or I don't agree with it (I really hate stuff like this), it's not enough to justify theft. I refuse to pay for tethering, so I just don't do it...
Also, if you read some of the Android guru's talking about the handset manufacturers all starting to lock their bootloaders. This is the reason. Before, when it was just us goofing about with our own devices and hurting noone, especially not the carrier, they couldn't care less. As we start moving into LTE with a tethering option, you'll see almost every single Android handset maker locking their phones down. Just look at the Thunderbolt... HTC has always been a big proponent of the Android dev scene, but they signed that bootloader. If you think it was for any other reason than to stop people from tethering and flooding Verizon's LTE network, you're crazy. Verizon may have forced their hand, but it's still done. Neither AT&T or Verizon want to have to deal with what AT&T had to with the iPhone saturation killing their network speeds(and the crap reputation it's brought them) when it comes to their new LTE networks. They'll do whatever they have to in order to guarantee the majority of their customers get a pleasant network experience. Even if that means making "Suggestions" to handset makers. Motorola did it, HTC did it, Samsung is next, then LG. And ultimately, we're going to be the ones to blame. That's just the way I've been seeing things. I may be completely off base...
*NOTE* The thunderbold has been hacked. Maybe there's hope after all.

At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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I had AT&T update my IMEI because I was going to be using a non-smartphone for "traveling" and had them put in an unlimited $10 data. Went ahead and popped my SIM into my Inspire, and I've only gotten two messages and an e-mail that they recognized I'm using a 4G SIM and that they've changed my plan accordingly. I called and checked my account online, and both show that I've still got the feature, so it's been working; plus, I've been using WiFi hotspot for my laptop this whole time.
Hope they don't catch on!

lrs421 said:
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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You're not going to get 4G speeds with HSPA+. It's a 3.5G technology. The same thing that T-Mobile has been touting as 4G for the last year. They had great speed on their network because no one was using it... That's not being mean, it's just the way it is. If AT&T has this infrastructure and it was only 40% utilized, every current 4G phone (Atrix & Inspire) would be getting 10-14mb down.
I'm in Northern Atlanta (The home of AT&T wireless), and I get 5mb down and 2mb up late at night. During prime time, I pull 2.5mb down and 2mb up.
This will all change when AT&T starts rolling out their LTE network. It should be showing the exact same speeds as Verizon's. They're both similar in size, and running the exact same technology.

[Q] Thoughts about a 3G TF

OK I know that the Asus TF with 3G is not currently available in most parts of the world (it does seem to be available in Italy, Taiwan and China).
I spoke to Asus Canada on Aug 16th, 2011 asking about a possible ETA, not much info but from how the rep responded to my question I think we are getting pretty close (like by mid Sept).
So here's a couple questions that maybe the gurus that lounge in here can somewhat address.
We've seen that subsidized devices (ie cell phone's) running Android have been slow at getting updates on Android. The carriers control that upgrade path to insure compatibility with their network. Some it seem could care less about the users level of satisfaction with a particular device preferring that they purchase a new model to gain the features of a software revision.
I own a TF101, it's been a great product, but I'd much prefer a TF101G. (Thankfully I have someone that will buy the TF for full price if I move to the 3G model). With the original TF we've seen Asus leading over others in pushing down updates. But I'm wondering if we are likely to see the same level of support with a 3G model?
Another question I have is that here in Canada currently the only data plan available from the carriers is a 500MB one for $30-32/month. Bell, Telus and Rogers do offer an IPad plan for $15 - 250MB. Now with time I expect that those 3 will offer more tablet plans, but what I'm wondering is could I just buy the Ipad plan and use it with a TF101G or Rocket Stick. I mean sure neither is an "Ipad" but data is data and it shouldn't matter. The only thing I can think of is that the Piad sends some form of a device identifier to the network, but I would think this could somehow be set?????

On support, my guess is that Asus will be more aggressive in pushing updates than any other vendor. Getting them out early is their "style". So while there may be some delays caused by 3G, Asus will probably resolve those quickly and ship the 3G update shortly after the Wifi only update.
As an aside, have you considered tethering to your phone? I have no interest in a 3G tablet of any sort. I use my phone's wifi hotspot to tether to tablets (TF, iPad, NC) and laptops. It works great and I always have the phone with me. Also, our area has good 4G coverage (Sprint) so the speed is good. Also, sharing the bandwidth between multiple device makes any charges more palatable.

I do an insane amount of tethering, so a 3G tablet seems cool, but unnecessary to me. I find it weird that the TF101 has a portable hotspot feature, along with USB tethering. But I guess in hindsight it makes sense for the tablets that do have 3G connectivity (a la Xoom).
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+1, if you have an Android or iOS smartphone, I see no reason whatsoever to get a 3G/4G tablet. Why pay for another data plan?
I personally tether to my iPhone 4.

currently I have no data plan or for that matter a smart phone, so tethering is not an option, I'm not sure how such devices are priced elsewhere but here in Canada I doubt one could get a phone/plan for under $70 a month. That's considerably more then the under $20 that is available on that 'other' device. Sure it's a small amount of data, but most places that I'd use a tablet have wifi, simply having a 3G for the odd time away from an 802.11 connection would be welcomed

[Q] Best value 3g dongle

I'm looking to use my tablet whilst out and about and I am currently in the USA so I wanted to make the most of the exchange rate.

Bongo2k said:
I'm looking to use my tablet whilst out and about and I am currently in the USA so I wanted to make the most of the exchange rate.
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I too am curious about this, but from here in the U.K. How does tethering to a phone compare, how to go about tethering?
Sorry mate, not trying to hijack your thread.
Seg

i wouldnt bother with a dongle. i am on t-mobile in the uk, have a samsung GS2 and use the portable hotspot functionality to use my 3G connection on my transformer when out and about. it so east to setup a child could do it and it works a treat.
if your phone has hotspot functionality use that instead. so much easier than a dongle and it means you arent paying twice for 3G connection.

bob dylan said:
i wouldnt bother with a dongle. i am on t-mobile in the uk, have a samsung GS2 and use the portable hotspot functionality to use my 3G connection on my transformer when out and about. it so east to setup a child could do it and it works a treat.
if your phone has hotspot functionality use that instead. so much easier than a dongle and it means you arent paying twice for 3G connection.
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I would have definately done this, but I sold my sgs2 to pay for my tf. Do you know of any other phone which can do this? Obviously cheapest is the key for me at the mo.
Seg

I unfortunately have one of the few windows phones that doesn't and wont (I don't think) support portable hotspot. Plus id rather not have to worry about another thing to charge.

Bongo2k said:
I unfortunately have one of the few windows phones that doesn't and wont (I don't think) support portable hotspot. Plus id rather not have to worry about another thing to charge.
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But wouldnt you be charging your phone every night anyway Bongo?
Seg

I am probably going to give my phone to my GF or retire it while I see how the whole tablet thing works out

Seg2012 said:
I would have definately done this, but I sold my sgs2 to pay for my tf. Do you know of any other phone which can do this? Obviously cheapest is the key for me at the mo.
Seg
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pretty much any decent android phone has the hotspot functionality, eg my old htc desire used to do it too.
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Bongo2k said:
I am probably going to give my phone to my GF or retire it while I see how the whole tablet thing works out
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you do know you cant use your tablet as phone you know?!
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i bought the extended battery from samsung, gives me 2 and half days of heavy useage out of one charge
eg i was using the hotspot functionality at work for about 3 hours today, phone went from 97% charged to 80% charged.
it works a treat for me.

Last I checked skype pretty much worked well enough to replace a phone

You can tether to a phone via WiFi just fine, but most people travelling internationally are not blessed. In ten days, if I try to roam, it will cost me $10 per megabyte. Also, it will burn through your phones battery faster (my old phone would die maybe 2x - 2.5x faster).
3G dongles, you should be able to preload with data when you get in country or preload with suitable data service before going abroad. That makes them useful.
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3 do a 3g mifi dingle at 10gbp/more you can unlock it easily and put any 3g sum in it, works for me

I meant which brand/model is ts best value for money...

Unbranded phone= no roaming charges if you have an in country sim.I.e. I use my phone in Germany on a German sim. Its not rocket science
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So no one can give me any recommendations?

An alternative approach
I don't know of a USB 3G modem that can be plugged in to the Transformer. I do have a sim-lock-free 3G Huawei K3520 modem (recognized as an E620 in GNU/Linux, and purportedly compatible with the E169). However I have not tried to get it to work with my Transformer (ie I have not plugged it in), so I can not say whether it works.
Instead I plug this USB 3G modem into a very small portable Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router that I own, and I use that to broadcast a local WAN that I log in with my Asus Transformer. I carry Edimax router around with me.
This Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router is both slightly smaller and SIGNIFICANTLY lighter than my Blackberry mobile phone, and it is easy to carry around. Why so ?
Because typically when I am outside, I have my Asus Tranformer inside my backback. Well the Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router and the 3G Huawei K3520 modem take up next to no additional space in the backpack, and their weight is insignificant compared to the Transformer and basic backpack weight.
By using the 3G Huawei K3520 modem and Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router combination, both my wife (with her iPod) and myself (with my Transformer) can access the Internet at the same time with one 3G account, saving money.
During one test, we had connected at the same time to this 3G Huawei K3520 modem and Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router combination:
Asus Transformer TF-101B
iPod Touch 3G
Lenovo X220 laptop
Dell Studio 1537 laptop
Blackberry Torch phone using its wireless
all sharing the same 3G connection. It would be a LOT more expensive to have to have a separate 3G account for each device.
I know this is not the answer you are looking for, and my apologies for that. But I think it worth considering on your part.

There's a thread about using dongles with the transformer but there's lots of compatible dongles, i don't want to have to go through the entire list finding which one is cheapest.

Bongo2k said:
There's a thread about using singles with the transformer but there's lots of compatible dongles, i don't wantcto have to go through the entire list finding which one is cheapest.
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in the time you have waited for someone to suggest something you could have gone through that list and ordered the cheapest one!!

oldcpu, that's def' best value but highest initial investment. I like the idea though and will probably borrow it someday
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bob dylan said:
in the time you have waited for someone to suggest something you could have gone through that list and ordered the cheapest one!!
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Guess I'll have to do that then

[Q] Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1

I was just about to place order on Amazon for the Samsung Note 10.1 32gb but then came across the unlocked version of the 10.1 16gb. My question is which one to get? I like that the unlocked version is 3g wifi but the American version isnt. Are these 2 tablets similar in specs aside from the 3G?
Any suggestions would be helpful. I want to buy it like tomorrow.
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Jacquie

Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.

Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1
blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks

boredy said:
Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.

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Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.

boredy said:
Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.
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I'd say get the WiFi one if you are around WiFi a lot and don't need it on the run. If you are not around WiFi a lot get the 3g model and need it away from WiFi. And they are the same except 3g
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boredy said:
Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
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They're both the same specs wise. The difference between the N8000 and other wireless-capable tablets is that it's a full-fledged phone.
I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.

I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.[/QUOTE]
The N8000 only comes in 16bg right? Is there a 32gig out there? I mean 16 gig difference is alot? Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
I dont do much sync, I like that it has phone capability and I can use international data when I travel. I use it mostly for games, reading and movie watching. Currently I have Samsung Note phone and I love it! I also use my ipad 3.

Just a quick response to the second post. I've also seen on a few sites like Amazon and Walmart where they list some of the 32gb notes as being dual core and some as having only 1gb of ram. I'm sure it's a mistake of the website. Just wanted to share what I read.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.

TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.

boredy said:
Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
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Yes most if not all android tablets support flash in web browser, but you need to sideload it
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TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks

boredy said:
Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks
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Uh, really?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Uh, really?
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Uh really what? I am asking for help and not sarcasm. foh.

No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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KoRoZIV said:
No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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What's all these hostility in here?
I already have Ipad and just bought a 10.1 N8000 arriving tmw. You people have issues, I feel sorry for your life.
Merry Christmas!

It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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KoRoZIV said:
It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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I didnt see the post and you are too quick to give your assumptions by being sarcastic. What do you mean I deserve it? Who the heck are you to tell say that you bum. You coulda said something like someone already posted. but I guess you rather use sarcasm than being helpful. dude if I read it, why I would repost the question again? that's common sense for a normal person.
Get on with your woeful sarcasm life.

Relax "dude". Don't get mad, I'm the one with the issues...
Common sense will be not to quote the last post, to edit and correct your topic title, or to post in the correct section of the forum, but who am I to educate you.
My intention was not to offend you, I apologize if I did.
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Any non-root Tether options shake loose after the update??

Just wondering. I never did the unlock as I really just need tether. Wondering if there were any developments in that department.

I feel confident that the FoxFi\PDAnet developers will come through with a solution as they did for the Samsung KitKat devices. A process report would be helpful.

You can always pony up the extra money per month for the officially sanctioned mobile Hotspot feature. You can also use Faveset Klink over USB to a small always-on PC that acts as a wireless router. An Intel NUC is a good example of that. Both of these solutions do not involve paying Verizon any extra money per month, though they may not be 100% kosher as far as the ToS for your unlimited data plan. I went the legit route and signed up for the mobile Hotspot feature. Hurts the wallet but I'll never need to worry about NUCs or the possibility that I'll never be able to root my device and be stuck without a tethering solution.
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Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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jfriend33 said:
Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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FoxFi/PDA net also works over bluetooth but its very, very slow.

ratman6161 said:
FoxFi/PDA net also works over bluetooth but its very, very slow.
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I don't think foxfi works though anymore
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Don't know if this is the place to ask but is there any data available on connection rates between WiFi via mobile hotspot vs Bluetooth tether? Which is faster and what app is best?
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jfriend33 said:
Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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same works good with my phone to tablet

mitchbaria said:
Don't know if this is the place to ask but is there any data available on connection rates between WiFi via mobile hotspot vs Bluetooth tether? Which is faster and what app is best?
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I haven't seen any data. But I've personally experienced the best results using wifi hotspot. Followed by usb, then bluetooth. The last 2 are significantly slower.
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Sorry to resurrect old topic but...
allquixotic said:
You can always pony up the extra money per month for the officially sanctioned mobile Hotspot feature. You can also use Faveset Klink over USB to a small always-on PC that acts as a wireless router. An Intel NUC is a good example of that. Both of these solutions do not involve paying Verizon any extra money per month, though they may not be 100% kosher as far as the ToS for your unlimited data plan. I went the legit route and signed up for the mobile Hotspot feature. Hurts the wallet but I'll never need to worry about NUCs or the possibility that I'll never be able to root my device and be stuck without a tethering solution.
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My job is providing me with a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4" which I should be getting in the next couple of days...but it's WiFi only. They will buy tablets but not data plans and they will only buy WiFi only tablets. So if I want cellular data its up to me. Note: Please don't reply with "why don't you unlock and/or root" because I've already made the decision not to do that.
I am lucky enough to still have an unlimited data plan on my Droid Maxx. I checked out buying a Verizon MiFi device, but that would require a change in my data plan and I would lose unlimited . On a MiFi, I would end up on a 5 GB data plan shared between my phone and the MiFi but my total cost would be only $10 higher than I pay today. On the other hand, tethering is a feature I can turn on without changing data plans - but that's $30 per month. But I mostly only need it when traveling and the feature can be turned on and off at will. I can do the math for myself to decide which is more cost effective. But that leads to my question:
If I pay for tethering, how well does it really work? Does a tethered phone work just as well as the MiFi? Or are there other advantages to the MiFi?

I realize you are asking a specific question and I am not answering that, but wanted to throw something out you may not have considered:
You can buy a used Verizon 4G LTE mifi off ebay for $30.
Your unlimited data plan is associated with the sim in your Maxx.
The mifi takes a sim too. Size adapters are easy to find on ebay or Amazon.
I'll let you connect the dots.
Verizon's policy: http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-af...ard-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps.

mblanton66 said:
I realize you are asking a specific question and I am not answering that, but wanted to throw something out you may not have considered:
You can buy a used Verizon 4G LTE mifi off ebay for $30.
Your unlimited data plan is associated with the sim in your Maxx.
The mifi takes a sim too. Size adapters are easy to find on ebay or Amazon.
I'll let you connect the dots.
Verizon's policy: http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-af...ard-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
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Hmmmm. That's a very interesting article and I was completely unaware of the issues it raises. Only problem is that without the SIM card, my Droid Max becomes mostly a useless brick...or does it it? I found this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQ6tyWKXbg
But then the Droid Max would always need a WiFi Connection. When I get home I'm going to try out the app mentioned in the video above on my old Og Droid I still have laying around. It's not activated on Verizon but it still works via WiFi.....

I would look at this solution as disabling the Maxx to use the sim in a mifi, just to keep it simple. When out of a case, the sim in the Maxx is easy to access. This may not work for you but is a cheap workaround for me and my non-rootable phone (I have a Maxx too) when I occasionally travel and can do without the phone for hours at a time. Again, just another option to consider if it fits your particular requirements.

How you unlocked your fone
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