Any non-root Tether options shake loose after the update?? - Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just wondering. I never did the unlock as I really just need tether. Wondering if there were any developments in that department.

I feel confident that the FoxFi\PDAnet developers will come through with a solution as they did for the Samsung KitKat devices. A process report would be helpful.

You can always pony up the extra money per month for the officially sanctioned mobile Hotspot feature. You can also use Faveset Klink over USB to a small always-on PC that acts as a wireless router. An Intel NUC is a good example of that. Both of these solutions do not involve paying Verizon any extra money per month, though they may not be 100% kosher as far as the ToS for your unlimited data plan. I went the legit route and signed up for the mobile Hotspot feature. Hurts the wallet but I'll never need to worry about NUCs or the possibility that I'll never be able to root my device and be stuck without a tethering solution.
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Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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jfriend33 said:
Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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FoxFi/PDA net also works over bluetooth but its very, very slow.

ratman6161 said:
FoxFi/PDA net also works over bluetooth but its very, very slow.
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I don't think foxfi works though anymore
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Don't know if this is the place to ask but is there any data available on connection rates between WiFi via mobile hotspot vs Bluetooth tether? Which is faster and what app is best?
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jfriend33 said:
Easy tether pro has worked since day one. Has bluetooth for wireless but it's not a true wifi hotspot. Better than nothing.
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same works good with my phone to tablet

mitchbaria said:
Don't know if this is the place to ask but is there any data available on connection rates between WiFi via mobile hotspot vs Bluetooth tether? Which is faster and what app is best?
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I haven't seen any data. But I've personally experienced the best results using wifi hotspot. Followed by usb, then bluetooth. The last 2 are significantly slower.
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Sorry to resurrect old topic but...
allquixotic said:
You can always pony up the extra money per month for the officially sanctioned mobile Hotspot feature. You can also use Faveset Klink over USB to a small always-on PC that acts as a wireless router. An Intel NUC is a good example of that. Both of these solutions do not involve paying Verizon any extra money per month, though they may not be 100% kosher as far as the ToS for your unlimited data plan. I went the legit route and signed up for the mobile Hotspot feature. Hurts the wallet but I'll never need to worry about NUCs or the possibility that I'll never be able to root my device and be stuck without a tethering solution.
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My job is providing me with a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4" which I should be getting in the next couple of days...but it's WiFi only. They will buy tablets but not data plans and they will only buy WiFi only tablets. So if I want cellular data its up to me. Note: Please don't reply with "why don't you unlock and/or root" because I've already made the decision not to do that.
I am lucky enough to still have an unlimited data plan on my Droid Maxx. I checked out buying a Verizon MiFi device, but that would require a change in my data plan and I would lose unlimited . On a MiFi, I would end up on a 5 GB data plan shared between my phone and the MiFi but my total cost would be only $10 higher than I pay today. On the other hand, tethering is a feature I can turn on without changing data plans - but that's $30 per month. But I mostly only need it when traveling and the feature can be turned on and off at will. I can do the math for myself to decide which is more cost effective. But that leads to my question:
If I pay for tethering, how well does it really work? Does a tethered phone work just as well as the MiFi? Or are there other advantages to the MiFi?

I realize you are asking a specific question and I am not answering that, but wanted to throw something out you may not have considered:
You can buy a used Verizon 4G LTE mifi off ebay for $30.
Your unlimited data plan is associated with the sim in your Maxx.
The mifi takes a sim too. Size adapters are easy to find on ebay or Amazon.
I'll let you connect the dots.
Verizon's policy: http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-af...ard-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps.

mblanton66 said:
I realize you are asking a specific question and I am not answering that, but wanted to throw something out you may not have considered:
You can buy a used Verizon 4G LTE mifi off ebay for $30.
Your unlimited data plan is associated with the sim in your Maxx.
The mifi takes a sim too. Size adapters are easy to find on ebay or Amazon.
I'll let you connect the dots.
Verizon's policy: http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-af...ard-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps.
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Hmmmm. That's a very interesting article and I was completely unaware of the issues it raises. Only problem is that without the SIM card, my Droid Max becomes mostly a useless brick...or does it it? I found this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQ6tyWKXbg
But then the Droid Max would always need a WiFi Connection. When I get home I'm going to try out the app mentioned in the video above on my old Og Droid I still have laying around. It's not activated on Verizon but it still works via WiFi.....

I would look at this solution as disabling the Maxx to use the sim in a mifi, just to keep it simple. When out of a case, the sim in the Maxx is easy to access. This may not work for you but is a cheap workaround for me and my non-rootable phone (I have a Maxx too) when I occasionally travel and can do without the phone for hours at a time. Again, just another option to consider if it fits your particular requirements.

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Tethering with out plan! Message from att

My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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vwood2121 said:
but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop.
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you can pay most bills with the smartphone browsers. i only tether for streaming stock quotes (java applets) when i'm away from home. can your ipad or ipad2 does that? haha
this is why i rather carry my sony 4.5" UMPC when i'm away from home.
vwood2121 said:
My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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Nooo! This is very concerning....
I also agree that everyone should be able to use their monthly allotted amount of data however they please.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
Divinedark said:
It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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huh??
i have the 2GB plan, does it really matter how i use that 2GB? (laptop or phone?)
if i have cable, i can hook it up any ways i want! (to 50" HDTV, desktop, or laptop)
It's bad enough they (at&t) screwed themselves with the ipads, but now you they really want to be like apple n charge you twice because of it. Why should you have to have 2 data plans to use 1 data feature anyway?
I think it was really more for people like me that have unlimited data plans. I can use an ass-load more data with my laptop than I could with my phone.
Either way, a feature is a feature is a feature. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last big company to charge for stuff like that. As much as you or I don't agree with it (I really hate stuff like this), it's not enough to justify theft. I refuse to pay for tethering, so I just don't do it...
Also, if you read some of the Android guru's talking about the handset manufacturers all starting to lock their bootloaders. This is the reason. Before, when it was just us goofing about with our own devices and hurting noone, especially not the carrier, they couldn't care less. As we start moving into LTE with a tethering option, you'll see almost every single Android handset maker locking their phones down. Just look at the Thunderbolt... HTC has always been a big proponent of the Android dev scene, but they signed that bootloader. If you think it was for any other reason than to stop people from tethering and flooding Verizon's LTE network, you're crazy. Verizon may have forced their hand, but it's still done. Neither AT&T or Verizon want to have to deal with what AT&T had to with the iPhone saturation killing their network speeds(and the crap reputation it's brought them) when it comes to their new LTE networks. They'll do whatever they have to in order to guarantee the majority of their customers get a pleasant network experience. Even if that means making "Suggestions" to handset makers. Motorola did it, HTC did it, Samsung is next, then LG. And ultimately, we're going to be the ones to blame. That's just the way I've been seeing things. I may be completely off base...
*NOTE* The thunderbold has been hacked. Maybe there's hope after all.
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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I had AT&T update my IMEI because I was going to be using a non-smartphone for "traveling" and had them put in an unlimited $10 data. Went ahead and popped my SIM into my Inspire, and I've only gotten two messages and an e-mail that they recognized I'm using a 4G SIM and that they've changed my plan accordingly. I called and checked my account online, and both show that I've still got the feature, so it's been working; plus, I've been using WiFi hotspot for my laptop this whole time.
Hope they don't catch on!
lrs421 said:
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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You're not going to get 4G speeds with HSPA+. It's a 3.5G technology. The same thing that T-Mobile has been touting as 4G for the last year. They had great speed on their network because no one was using it... That's not being mean, it's just the way it is. If AT&T has this infrastructure and it was only 40% utilized, every current 4G phone (Atrix & Inspire) would be getting 10-14mb down.
I'm in Northern Atlanta (The home of AT&T wireless), and I get 5mb down and 2mb up late at night. During prime time, I pull 2.5mb down and 2mb up.
This will all change when AT&T starts rolling out their LTE network. It should be showing the exact same speeds as Verizon's. They're both similar in size, and running the exact same technology.

[Q] Can you Tether without being charged?

I have never Tethered my Samsung Ace to my Asus Pad TF300T before and I have been reserching this feature because I am about to go on holiday.
Before I experimented I asked my ISP (Virgin Mobile) if this was possible. They replied that I could Tether my phone for the princely sum of 50 pence a time.
Now I'm not happy with being charged twice for the same thing when all I want to do is surf on a bigger screen.
Is there any way that I can Tether my phone and tablet without having to pay 50 pence a pop?
wifi tether
the lemming said:
I have never Tethered my Samsung Ace to my Asus Pad TF300T before and I have been reserching this feature because I am about to go on holiday.
Before I experimented I asked my ISP (Virgin Mobile) if this was possible. They replied that I could Tether my phone for the princely sum of 50 pence a time.
Now I'm not happy with being charged twice for the same thing when all I want to do is surf on a bigger screen.
Is there any way that I can Tether my phone and tablet without having to pay 50 pence a pop?
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If you have root you search the market for wifi tether apps that will let you tether with out the restrictions from your carrier. BEWARE- you will pay for data if you go over your data limit, of course, so keep an eye out.
If you not rooted, it limits you down to unlocking it with your isp, rooting your device(then it doesn't matter because you are rooted), or installing a custom rom with tethering included already(generally comes with root as well).
I'm sure there are more options available but those would seem the most direct route at least...
If I'm wrong or anything please feel free to correct me.
Isn't 50 p not the normal data tariff ? Thethering uses data.
You can try FoxFi from the Market. It works wonderfully. If you have unlimited data on your phone like I do, then you can just use that to tether to whatever devices you want to using WiFi.
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Teathering is patr of your data plan. You can have up to 5 devices hooked up to your phone, but still have to watch out for going over your data plan
yes
you can if you root your phone and install a wifi tether app, like "wifi tether" or "barnacle". however, it will run off your data plan, so if you have unlimited data then yes it is free, but if you have a data cap, you may need to watch how much data you tether.
Are these apps encrypting your traffic? I would think the carriers can detect tethering based off your traffic.
I have been using FoxFi for more than a year now to tether. You don't need to root your phone, and to your carrier, it just looks like data that your phone itself is using. They can see that you are viewing sites with a desktop/tablet User string, but that's it. Unless they really analyze it, they won't know you are using the tethering app.
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Tethering A Computer vs. Tablet

Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet. So can I safely go nuts tethering to my tablet as if it was my phone due to it looking like I'm using my phone or am I way off and can Verizon tell I'm tethering and using my tablet. I really just want tot tether the hell out f my tablet when I need it. Anyways as this is XDA can I hide it safely? I have an unlimited data plan so the whole OK to tether thing since that lawsuit doesn't apply to me with this.
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mrvogel said:
Tried to ask this in the general forums and didn't get an answer, wondering f you guys could help. Got an s3 to keep my unlimited data. Reading it says that Verizon can tell if you tethering to a computer due to TTL packets. I don't know much about networking but reading it says that windows computers while tethering push a value of 124 or 128 packets unless configured while android devices have a value of 64. The thing is I never tether to my computer only my tablet.
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I don't know about the packet size issue you mentioned.
Otherwise, I have read that if*your Verizon tethering indicator turns on or your usage suddenly goes quite high for a month or more, they might suspect you of tethering without a plan and look into it. It's also said that apps like PDAnet make it very difficult for the service provider to figure out if you are tethering or not - regardless of what you're connected to.
- ooofest
VZW can no longer block tethering on 4g phones. Due to FCC saying so. Simple Google search will fond multiple articles.
There is no restrictions on unlimited versus tiered data plan. What counts is that you have a 4g phone. Check out this article ans the tether away.
http://www.zdnet.com/let-my-wi-fi-go-fcc-rules-verizon-cant-charge-for-wi-fi-tethering-7000001916/
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I've read differently. It sounds like if you have an unlimited data plan you can only use that data plan for a single device meaning that you can't tether the unlimited data. I read multiple places that this is part of the terms of service and it doesn't apply to unlimited data plan users... M
aybe somebody can clarify this for me because it would be great to use my unlimited data for tethering when on vacations.
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Tethering
Its like not paying you bill. You get a warning. You can always deny it or ignore it. Modern PDANet if thats what you are boing to use has some countermeasures. At least 2 I think. Don't know if they are effective. You can just use Orobot to tunnel your traffic and I'm pretty certain that would work. I don't know what you plan to do but I wouldn't go download something shady from some torrent site though. Web browsing and getting email is probably fine.
I've been tethering my laptop to my phone since I first figured out how to do it with the Droid X. Meaning basically since I rooted it and found a decent tether app. Out of 5 people on a business share plan(business version of family plan - add a line for 9.99 etc) I've always had significantly highest usage. 5 gigs at a bare minimum, and not once has verizon figured out I'm tethering.
I honestly dont think they can really tell if you are or arent tehtering. 4g or 3g.
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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I believe you can if you turn it on through the notification toggles...Why tho? The WiFi for Root Users is a lot more customizable...
sfetaz said:
Curious, is Verizon still charging people today who were paying before the ruling? Is it possible now for me to use built in hotspot instead of wifi tether, regardless of whether or not i am on a custom rom? I am using latest synergy atm with wifi tether, i should have no problem using built in right?
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atm no. the software is still there to keep you from doing that. IF you root, the world is your oyster though... and they aren't actually allowed to do anything to do. They just aren't rushing to open everyone up to free hotspotting.

Sapido RB-1733 work with the xt926?

Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone knows if I can use the the xt926 with the Sapido RB-1733 router in USB tether mode?
I have an unlimited data plan so data usage is not an issue. I just don't want to keep using WiFi tether as the connection resets every now an then. I still want to share my connection with a few other devices as well hence why I'm looking at this router.
If I can't then is there another router that is capable of tethering to my phone via USB and use the phone as a wan connection?
Thanks!
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Anyone?
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While I can't condone what you're doing, or answer your question, I can offer you this temporary fix.
When Comcast was down for a few days, I used easy tether pro (great for tethering one device, always works, even without root) and bridged the connection to my wireless card in my laptop. This allowed Internet on the laptop and whatever else I needed in the house. Only problem is you gotta have the laptop on at all times.
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I'm paying the extra 30 bucks for the right to tether with the stock hotspot/USB tether app. So I am allowed to tether since I'm properly provisioned to do so.
I know I could do that with a computer but I was looking for a low power solution like that router I was looking at. I would rather not have to leave a full blown computer running if I don't have to.
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boomertwo said:
I'm paying the extra 30 bucks for the right to tether with the stock hotspot/USB tether app. So I am allowed to tether since I'm properly provisioned to do so.
I know I could do that with a computer but I was looking for a low power solution like that router I was looking at. I would rather not have to leave a full blown computer running if I don't have to.
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That isn't unlimited then. Verizon customers pay 30 a month but it's only for 2,4,or 5 gigs.
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jfriend33 said:
That isn't unlimited then. Verizon customers pay 30 a month but it's only for 2,4,or 5 gigs.
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For those of us that kept our unlimited data plans now get unlimited hotspot/tether if we decide to pay for it. This was due to Verizon being sued for their data pricing practices. This is why they know offer their shared data plans which they are no longer allowed to charge you for tethering anymore. However those of us on unlimited data plans still have to pay to have that feature but Verizon now just sells us the ability to tether and not a limited data package for tethering. Hence why there is a thread in the general discussion on how to do an entitlement hack so that you can get away from paying them the extra 30 bucks. I have no intention of rooting my phone or hacking it so I decided to pay them the extra money since I already payed full retail for a phone just to keep my unlimited data plan.
Anyway we are getting off track here.
My question has yet to be answered if it is possible to tether this phone to a Sapido RB-1733 router or not?
Sorry about that. I stand corrected. I was not aware the two were connected. Well shucks. That's really cool. I have lots of reading to do.
You might find some info over at Howard forums. The droid forums here don't seem to have very much activity. I anyway back on track...
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Tethering not working

My little brother has a moto g and my girlfriend has a nexus 5, they both use the 30 monthly t mobile plan and tethering does not work at all, it takes them straight the the t mobile log in page, We all live in the US and in the 30 dollar plan, tethering is included for free, my little brothers old phone allowed tethering , and that phone was a t mobile phone, not unlocked, so any ideas on the issue.
And is there a fix that does not require root, they dont want me to root there phones yet
PopperJuan said:
My little brother has a moto g and my girlfriend has a nexus 5, they both use the 30 monthly t mobile plan and tethering does not work at all, it takes them straight the the t mobile log in page, We all live in the US and in the 30 dollar plan, tethering is included for free, my little brothers old phone allowed tethering , and that phone was a t mobile phone, not unlocked, so any ideas on the issue.
And is there a fix that does not require root, they dont want me to root there phones yet
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Try this app for instance https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether&hl=nl, there are more available on Google Play that don`t require root.
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Try this app for instance https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether&hl=nl, there are more available on Google Play that don`t require root.
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Well I need something that can connect to ipods and tablets as well.. There has to be a reason why it doesn't work... The tether turns on it just doesn't function correctly
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Works here
I have the US 16gb model and now at office where there is no TMO signal -- only wifi is available. I shut off wifi on iPad and was able to successfully tether off the Moto G hotspot using bluetooth connection. It took a couple of times to pair the two devices but once linked, downloaded some emails, checked internet blogs, etc.
When I get home tonight, will try using just data service. I only have 500 mb limit before they throttle down on speed so curious how fast the connection will be.
TMobile Simple Choice Plan Tethering
No issues (so far) with tethering on my Moto G using TMobile Simple Choice Plan.
OP, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2579963&highlight=tethering
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When I get home tonight, will try using just data service. I only have 500 mb limit before they throttle down on speed so curious how fast the connection will be.
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Solid connection and skype audio worked perfectly.:good:
Thnx dude, it was very helpful, also after using this app, my hotspot MOTO G, start working fine. Thank you again

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