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Tethering with out plan! Message from att

My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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vwood2121 said:
but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop.
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you can pay most bills with the smartphone browsers. i only tether for streaming stock quotes (java applets) when i'm away from home. can your ipad or ipad2 does that? haha
this is why i rather carry my sony 4.5" UMPC when i'm away from home.

vwood2121 said:
My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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Nooo! This is very concerning....
I also agree that everyone should be able to use their monthly allotted amount of data however they please.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.

Divinedark said:
It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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huh??
i have the 2GB plan, does it really matter how i use that 2GB? (laptop or phone?)
if i have cable, i can hook it up any ways i want! (to 50" HDTV, desktop, or laptop)

It's bad enough they (at&t) screwed themselves with the ipads, but now you they really want to be like apple n charge you twice because of it. Why should you have to have 2 data plans to use 1 data feature anyway?

I think it was really more for people like me that have unlimited data plans. I can use an ass-load more data with my laptop than I could with my phone.
Either way, a feature is a feature is a feature. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last big company to charge for stuff like that. As much as you or I don't agree with it (I really hate stuff like this), it's not enough to justify theft. I refuse to pay for tethering, so I just don't do it...
Also, if you read some of the Android guru's talking about the handset manufacturers all starting to lock their bootloaders. This is the reason. Before, when it was just us goofing about with our own devices and hurting noone, especially not the carrier, they couldn't care less. As we start moving into LTE with a tethering option, you'll see almost every single Android handset maker locking their phones down. Just look at the Thunderbolt... HTC has always been a big proponent of the Android dev scene, but they signed that bootloader. If you think it was for any other reason than to stop people from tethering and flooding Verizon's LTE network, you're crazy. Verizon may have forced their hand, but it's still done. Neither AT&T or Verizon want to have to deal with what AT&T had to with the iPhone saturation killing their network speeds(and the crap reputation it's brought them) when it comes to their new LTE networks. They'll do whatever they have to in order to guarantee the majority of their customers get a pleasant network experience. Even if that means making "Suggestions" to handset makers. Motorola did it, HTC did it, Samsung is next, then LG. And ultimately, we're going to be the ones to blame. That's just the way I've been seeing things. I may be completely off base...
*NOTE* The thunderbold has been hacked. Maybe there's hope after all.

At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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I had AT&T update my IMEI because I was going to be using a non-smartphone for "traveling" and had them put in an unlimited $10 data. Went ahead and popped my SIM into my Inspire, and I've only gotten two messages and an e-mail that they recognized I'm using a 4G SIM and that they've changed my plan accordingly. I called and checked my account online, and both show that I've still got the feature, so it's been working; plus, I've been using WiFi hotspot for my laptop this whole time.
Hope they don't catch on!

lrs421 said:
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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You're not going to get 4G speeds with HSPA+. It's a 3.5G technology. The same thing that T-Mobile has been touting as 4G for the last year. They had great speed on their network because no one was using it... That's not being mean, it's just the way it is. If AT&T has this infrastructure and it was only 40% utilized, every current 4G phone (Atrix & Inspire) would be getting 10-14mb down.
I'm in Northern Atlanta (The home of AT&T wireless), and I get 5mb down and 2mb up late at night. During prime time, I pull 2.5mb down and 2mb up.
This will all change when AT&T starts rolling out their LTE network. It should be showing the exact same speeds as Verizon's. They're both similar in size, and running the exact same technology.

Droid Charge for Atrix 4G - Tiered Data

Hey guys thanks in advance for all your help,
Currently i'm rocking a Atrix 4G which I love. Great screen camera, Dual core etc. and it's rooted. With the rumors of Unlimited LTE ending on July 7th I don't want to miss another unlimited data bandwagon as I tether quite a bit.
What i'm wondering is should I do it. Selling my Atrix for the Droid Charge in order to have the Unlimited LTE. I love having my Atrix and will the Charge live up to it? You guys wiill know best so thanks a bunch
Ps. Whats the chance the Droid Bionic will launch with a special "Unlimited Data" promotion?
Till next time

Bionic won't come till august sorry to pop people's bubbles. You won't be able to get unlimited data. They used these phones as a way to get us used to 4g so we would upgrade to new dual core phones that use lte. Either we get a new non unlimited plan or pay retail price.
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rocketboy6885 said:
Hey guys thanks in advance for all your help,
Currently i'm rocking a Atrix 4G which I love. Great screen camera, Dual core etc. and it's rooted. With the rumors of Unlimited LTE ending on July 7th I don't want to miss another unlimited data bandwagon as I tether quite a bit.
What i'm wondering is should I do it. Selling my Atrix for the Droid Charge in order to have the Unlimited LTE. I love having my Atrix and will the Charge live up to it? You guys wiill know best so thanks a bunch
Ps. Whats the chance the Droid Bionic will launch with a special "Unlimited Data" promotion?
Till next time
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It depends on how you use your phone. If you do a lot of multimedia related or processor intensive or huge multi-app (multi-threading) then the dual-core will definitely make a difference (stick with Atrix or wait), but if its just normal phone related stuff then the charge will be more than sufficient.
The only thing you need to be prepared for is that if you get the Charge, you will have to root and clean/flash it. The way it comes from Verizon it just plain sucks...but once you do get a different kernel and possibly ROM it will fly!
Cheers!
P.S. Verizon's LTE network is mcuh faster and has far better ping times than AT&T

Coming from an Atrix to a Charge I have no regrets about making the switch. Even though the Charge has only a single core it is still has one of the best single core chipsets found in mobile devices. For me Lte speeds are much more of a sell then a slightly faster phone. I though it was going to be rough going from a dual core phone back to a single core but it really was not too bad.

papi92 said:
Bionic won't come till august sorry to pop people's bubbles. You won't be able to get unlimited data. They used these phones as a way to get us used to 4g so we would upgrade to new dual core phones that use lte. Either we get a new non unlimited plan or pay retail price.
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You still get to keep it if you have an upgrade or buy phone full price as long as your a customer before the 7/7/11
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Heres what i'm thinking
If Unlimited LTE really does end i'll buy the Charge off contract before the Unlimited Data ends. I'm hoping that some of these leaks are actually true about the Droid Bionic and it might come out the July 4th weekend and I can snatch that. Along with the extension of free mobile hotspot this seems somewhat feasible
If not i'll buy the charge and wait out for a better dual core phone, but at that point at least we'll have the unlimited data plan. vs the tiered...$80/10gb thats just theft

As of right now, after 7/7/11 you will be able to upgrade your device and keep your unlimited plan.
@androidcentral: Verizon's new data plans broken down in complete detail http://bit.ly/jKDldQ #android
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rocketboy6885 said:
If Unlimited LTE really does end i'll buy the Charge off contract before the Unlimited Data ends. I'm hoping that some of these leaks are actually true about the Droid Bionic and it might come out the July 4th weekend and I can snatch that. Along with the extension of free mobile hotspot this seems somewhat feasible
If not i'll buy the charge and wait out for a better dual core phone, but at that point at least we'll have the unlimited data plan. vs the tiered...$80/10gb thats just theft
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I am not sure that would work... Im I don't know about others, and but when I picked up my charge they actually changed my data plan, and an I am not sure if that would let you keep unlimited. This is just conjecture based on how mobile companies work, so take it with a grain of salt.
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I've read Verizon will in fact allow you to keep the plan when upgrading phones
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I meant they actually have a listed 4g plan thats different than 3g. Thats why im not sure if thats the same as upgrading to another phone using the same radio... Ie if you change, them moving you from unlimited 3g to limited 4g
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Ahhhh good point! Becase after the tiered plans start 3G and" 4G" aren't differentiated. Well done!
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Read the link I posted earlier. It explains EVERYTHING leaving absolutley no room for speculation.
There is no such thing as 3g or 4g data plans. DATA plan is a DATA plan. Which means UPGRADING to a 4g phone (now or after 7/7/11) does NOT change your plan in anyway, in regards to pricing or amount of data they allow you..... For now. If your a new customer, or add a new line AFTER 7/7/11, then you're screwed.
Read the link. You guys are making this WAY more complicated than it is.
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papi92 said:
Bionic won't come till august sorry to pop people's bubbles. You won't be able to get unlimited data. They used these phones as a way to get us used to 4g so we would upgrade to new dual core phones that use lte. Either we get a new non unlimited plan or pay retail price.
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Luckily I just got my Charge two weeks ago and I have 90 days at Costco to return for another phone. Great option without having to change plans.

rocketboy6885 said:
Hey guys thanks in advance for all your help,
Currently i'm rocking a Atrix 4G which I love. Great screen camera, Dual core etc. and it's rooted. With the rumors of Unlimited LTE ending on July 7th I don't want to miss another unlimited data bandwagon as I tether quite a bit.
What i'm wondering is should I do it. Selling my Atrix for the Droid Charge in order to have the Unlimited LTE. I love having my Atrix and will the Charge live up to it? You guys wiill know best so thanks a bunch
Ps. Whats the chance the Droid Bionic will launch with a special "Unlimited Data" promotion?
Till next time
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Don't switch if you wanna tether... verizon charges your bill when you tether with the popular tether programs like barnacle and wifi tether.... if you don't believe me ask any experienced android person in here or google it...
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moondrius said:
Coming from an Atrix to a Charge I have no regrets about making the switch. Even though the Charge has only a single core it is still has one of the best single core chipsets found in mobile devices. For me Lte speeds are much more of a sell then a slightly faster phone. I though it was going to be rough going from a dual core phone back to a single core but it really was not too bad.
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You are only able to use 1 core at any given time so each phone is equal in speed. Atrix sucks... it's a gimmick phone with bs laptop netbook crap
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[Q] possible to not pay AT&T for DATA

okay ive always used xda as a source of information and i made a new account for this soul question. i have a rooted HTC Inspire running latest android revolution ROM i read that u dont have to pay for AT&T data usage with this ROM....well i have and i want to know if i can or cannot get free tethering wired or wifi i dont care without paying? i have a 200MB data cap on my plan and i need to know if there is a way around that if i can keep using the data w/o ATT knowing. im willing to do whatever it takes flashing another rom whatever so dont hold back on the android revolution rom alone your answers will all be a use to me and i thank u for helping me

I don't know about using data without at&t knowing, but you can tether with a rooted rom (which still uses data) without the at&t tether plan.

popupstoppa said:
I don't know about using data without at&t knowing, but you can tether with a rooted rom (which still uses data) without the at&t tether plan.
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so at&t would still see me tethering and use my data rate and charge me?

Popupstoppa was correct about the plan. You will be able to tether using Android Revolution, but no matter which rom you use, AT&T will definitely know how much data you have used during the month. If you are only on the 200mb plan, I would say forget about tethering. You will go over your limit in minutes.

Wolf_2 said:
Popupstoppa was correct about the plan. You will be able to tether using Android Revolution, but no matter which rom you use, AT&T will definitely know how much data you have used during the month. If you are only on the 200mb plan, I would say forget about tethering. You will go over your limit in minutes.
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yep and that is exactly what happens aw man o well guess thats it thanks for all ur help

You are better off getting a Telus Desire HD(exactly the same as the inspire) and tell ATT you have a non smartphone and then you can get an UNLIMITED data plan for $10 a month.

Agoattamer said:
You are better off getting a Telus Desire HD(exactly the same as the inspire) and tell ATT you have a non smartphone and then you can get an UNLIMITED data plan for $10 a month.
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I thought of doing this before, but it ends up being very pricey. Would you get 4g speeds with the unlimited $10 plan?

popupstoppa said:
I thought of doing this before, but it ends up being very pricey. Would you get 4g speeds with the unlimited $10 plan?
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Unfortunately, you will not. None of ATT's feature phones, the ones that would be able to get the unlimited, have HSPA+. You wouldn't be able to go faster than 3G speeds, but that's the price you pay. Lol
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All phones transmit imei numbers to att so they WILL know if your using a smart phone and automatically add the 2gb data plan.

Not to be the **** of this discussion,but do u really believe that there's a way to leech data without att knowing? Really? Getting away with free tethering is one thing, leeching data without them knowing on their own network with the ability to monitor traffic from each device is another. Common sense will tell you that, first of all, if there was a way, you would have read it by now, considering your claim of using xda
as a resource. Secondly, even if there was a way, don't u think att would have fixed an issue of that magnitude by now? (Rolls eyes)
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Quote from somewhastock: All phones transmit imei numbers to att so they WILL know if your using a smart phone and automatically add the 2gb data plan.
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ATT only knows of IMEI numbers of smartphones they sell with 3 exceptions that I know of: Blackberrys, Iphones, and the Nexus 1. Others are not in their database so they know not what phone you have. And that's a fact. I have been doing this for over 2 years. Still on the $10 fullfeature phone plan with unlimited data. And I don't tether.
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Unfortunately, you will not. None of ATT's feature phones, the ones that would be able to get the unlimited, have HSPA+. You wouldn't be able to go faster than 3G speeds, but that's the price you pay. Lol
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I am not on the 4G plan, no. I use the older single APN. Do you actually think that matters? I still can't believe how many people are still fooled by this 4G crap. Especially within less than a year your 4G plans will all be outdated for the new LTE (The real 4G) that ATT is now implementing. Below is a screenshot from my Telus DHD. Not the best time of the day here as it is 3:40 PM. But my speeds are very good. I have hit as high as 6500MB download. Do you think this is 3G speed? Not.
Quote from cavsoldier19d: Not to be the **** of this discussion,but do u really believe that there's a way to leech data without att knowing? Really? Getting away with free tethering is one thing, leeching data without them knowing on their own network with the ability to monitor traffic from each device is another. Common sense will tell you that, first of all, if there was a way, you would have read it by now, considering your claim of using xda
as a resource. Secondly, even if there was a way, don't u think att would have fixed an issue of that magnitude by now? (Rolls eyes)
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No one is leeching data. And FYI, it depends how you tether as ATT can tell. And no they cannot detect my device. Just because you have not read it before, how can you possibly think it is not true? So sorry to say but you are. (Rolls eyes)

Agoattamer said:
ATT only knows of IMEI numbers of smartphones they sell with 3 exceptions that I know of: Blackberrys, Iphones, and the Nexus 1. Others are not in their database so they know not what phone you have. And that's a fact. I have been doing this for over 2 years. Still on the $10 fullfeature phone plan with unlimited data. And I don't tether.
I am not on the 4G plan, no. I use the older single APN. Do you actually think that matters? I still can't believe how many people are still fooled by this 4G crap. Especially within less than a year your 4G plans will all be outdated for the new LTE (The real 4G) that ATT is now implementing. Below is a screenshot from my Telus DHD. Not the best time of the day here as it is 3:40 PM. But my speeds are very good. I have hit as high as 6500MB download. Do you think this is 3G speed? Not.
No one is leeching data. And FYI, it depends how you tether as ATT can tell. And no they cannot detect my device. Just because you have not read it before, how can you possibly think it is not true? So sorry to say but you are. (Rolls eyes)
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I don't buy into that 4G crap from ATT. 4G to me is LTE. With the speed you got, I would say you got as close to LTE speeds while still being on a still 3g network. If ATT wants to call their HSPA+ network 4G, I will call it that just for their benefit. I believe the truth and side with the the original statement from the ITC about what is truly 4G.
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I am saying, irreguardless of what device u use, they can monitor the TRAFFIC that is coming from whatever device u are using. The whole basis of this question was whether u can go over your said data limit without att knowing. That question is absurd because they can monitor exactly how much data u are using, no matter what device or if u are rooted/romed
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I am saying, irreguardless of what device u use, they can monitor the TRAFFIC that is coming from whatever device u are using. The whole basis of this question was whether u can go over your said data limit without att knowing. That question is absurd because they can monitor exactly how much data u are using, no matter what device or if u are rooted/romed
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That...and technically it's theft...at least the way the OP is going about it...

Agreed.
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Anyone running on Simple Mobile and getting Wifi Calling to work?

Hiw did you get it to work if so?

Anyone?

Yes, I went to simple on my phone last week and my wife's today, wifi working no problems on both. Use latest stable cm7.2.0 and go to settings, wireless, mobile networks, access point names, check the simple circle and reboot.
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mustangtim49 said:
Yes, I went to simple on my phone last week and my wife's today, wifi working no problems on both. Use latest stable cm7.2.0 and go to settings, wireless, mobile networks, access point names, check the simple circle and reboot.
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Lol thanks, but i was asking about wifi "calling". Like making phone calls on wifi as opposed to your network.

Not to hijack but how do you like simple I'm a T-Mobile monthly 4g user and thinking of switching... do they throttle like T-Mobile
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TheKid1 said:
Lol thanks, but i was asking about wifi "calling". Like making phone calls on wifi as opposed to your network.
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I think WiFi Calling is a T-Mobile feature only.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28018861
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Not to hijack but how do you like simple I'm a T-Mobile monthly 4g user and thinking of switching... do they throttle like T-Mobile
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After years of the Tmobile $250 a month no matter what your plan. I had 2 phones with 10gig plans for $250, went down to 2gigs on both, $250 a month. Not only is simple as fast if not faster, even though its Tmobile's network, its truly unlimited high speed Internet! No limits, $60 a month, period.
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After years of the Tmobile $250 a month no matter what your plan. I had 2 phones with 10gig plans for $250, went down to 2gigs on both, $250 a month. Not only is simple as fast if not faster, even though its Tmobile's network, its truly unlimited high speed Internet! No limits, $60 a month, period.
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Totally agree. I was paying $120/month with sprint. It was a $99 plan but with all their bull shart taxes and fees, it came out to $120/month and whatever else they decide to charge you for. Simple mobile has no surprises. $60 flat a month for unlimited everything and if you dont pay you dont get service, simple as that. Once you pay for the next month, phone is back on, and also no extra fees, simply unlimited. I love it.
Oh and make sure its a tmobile phone you are hooking up or you wont get 4g beooooooooooooootch!

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Totally agree. I was paying $120/month with sprint. It was a $99 plan but with all their bull shart taxes and fees, it came out to $120/month and whatever else they decide to charge you for. Simple mobile has no surprises. $60 flat a month for unlimited everything and if you dont pay you dont get service, simple as that. Once you pay for the next month, phone is back on, and also no extra fees, simply unlimited. I love it.
Oh and make sure its a tmobile phone you are hooking up or you wont get 4g beooooooooooooootch!
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Good to know... on the subject of WiFi calling I was looking for it as well. I do like what you say about the cost, but seeing how my current GSM phone didn't get reception at my house with TracFone; I am looking for a network which can use WiFi when I am in my house.
Seeing how I'm home most of the time I will need to be able to receive phone calls at my house. I did hear that Metro PCS is also a T-Mobile carrier phone system which can use WiFi calling. I do believe you phone needs to actually support WiFi calling in order to do so.
I have a ZTE Axon 7 mini which is currently on Marshmallow(Android 6.**) however the Nougat (Android 7.**) OS is in Beta testing and once that is done my phone will have WiFi calling ability with T-Mobile. I say all of this due to the fact the phone was only $210 with 3gb RAM (Memory), 32gb ROM, 5.2" AMOLED display, Voice & Finger Print, NFC, dual Nano GSM or SDCard & GSM. Honestly I love the phone so much I'm going to find a network to use it on... I is quick responsive and in a month I'll have Nougat as well. I paid nearly as much for another phone which is just god Awful :crying: Samsung Galaxy Prime I think is the model.
I've been shopping for an affordable phone and the only one which has the same specs is Amazon phone, but they strip out the NFC card for US customers, which seems to be the norm. All other reasonably priced phones seem to neglect NFC or RAM. I have been using mine to surf web/play games/Audio Book player till I actually use all the minutes I have on TracFone or Nougat is released. :victory::silly:

[Q] Good, inexpensive, contract-less smartphone

I hope that this is the right area to post, if it is not I am sorry and please move it. Thank you!
So, I am heading off to college and I want to get a smart phone. But I am way too cheap to pay for a data plan from a major carrier.
I currently have a Net10 brick phone and use their $30 for 60 days cards. So, I am essentially paying a $15/month service. I like the idea of Net10's "bring your own phone" plan that is $50/month with unlimited everything.
I have decided that what ever phone I may get, it needs to be under $250, run Android 4+, have a dual-core 1GHz or higher, and have 4G capability.
Now, I really like the Samsung Galaxy S2 and I can get one from eBay used for around $250, but I found the BLU Quattro 4.5 for $240 and it looks like one heck of a phone for the price. So my question is, which one should I get, or should I get something else?
Thank you,
saleenman95

I just received the Blu Quattro 4.5 from Amazon. It's a great phone, crazy fast. It doesn't support 4G LTE, but I'm pretty sure it will work on Tmobile's H+ 4G, haven't tried it yet though. Also Tmobile now does unlimited plans with 500MB data for $50/month no contract.

I see what the development for the Blu Quattro is and compare things like micro SD and removeable battery. If you're buying the phone yourself I think being able to replace the battery will really extend the life of the device and save you trouble. I'd check the bands against your provider and service area.
Just taking a peek, the SII has multiple 4.2.2 ROMs. Another quick look doesn't really turn up anything for the other phone. Something like re-flashing the stock ROM can save you in some situations even if you haven't used custom ROMs. Things can go wrong.
T-Mobile still has the 100min/unlimited text/5Gb 4G data plan through WAL*MART if that's enough minutes for you or you'd be able to call over VOIP (data or wifi) to extend that.

Boost mobile .....the plans shrink as you pay on time and the phone are pretty cheap....unlimited everything
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