okay ive always used xda as a source of information and i made a new account for this soul question. i have a rooted HTC Inspire running latest android revolution ROM i read that u dont have to pay for AT&T data usage with this ROM....well i have and i want to know if i can or cannot get free tethering wired or wifi i dont care without paying? i have a 200MB data cap on my plan and i need to know if there is a way around that if i can keep using the data w/o ATT knowing. im willing to do whatever it takes flashing another rom whatever so dont hold back on the android revolution rom alone your answers will all be a use to me and i thank u for helping me
I don't know about using data without at&t knowing, but you can tether with a rooted rom (which still uses data) without the at&t tether plan.
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I don't know about using data without at&t knowing, but you can tether with a rooted rom (which still uses data) without the at&t tether plan.
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so at&t would still see me tethering and use my data rate and charge me?
Popupstoppa was correct about the plan. You will be able to tether using Android Revolution, but no matter which rom you use, AT&T will definitely know how much data you have used during the month. If you are only on the 200mb plan, I would say forget about tethering. You will go over your limit in minutes.
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Popupstoppa was correct about the plan. You will be able to tether using Android Revolution, but no matter which rom you use, AT&T will definitely know how much data you have used during the month. If you are only on the 200mb plan, I would say forget about tethering. You will go over your limit in minutes.
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yep and that is exactly what happens aw man o well guess thats it thanks for all ur help
You are better off getting a Telus Desire HD(exactly the same as the inspire) and tell ATT you have a non smartphone and then you can get an UNLIMITED data plan for $10 a month.
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You are better off getting a Telus Desire HD(exactly the same as the inspire) and tell ATT you have a non smartphone and then you can get an UNLIMITED data plan for $10 a month.
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I thought of doing this before, but it ends up being very pricey. Would you get 4g speeds with the unlimited $10 plan?
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I thought of doing this before, but it ends up being very pricey. Would you get 4g speeds with the unlimited $10 plan?
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Unfortunately, you will not. None of ATT's feature phones, the ones that would be able to get the unlimited, have HSPA+. You wouldn't be able to go faster than 3G speeds, but that's the price you pay. Lol
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All phones transmit imei numbers to att so they WILL know if your using a smart phone and automatically add the 2gb data plan.
Not to be the **** of this discussion,but do u really believe that there's a way to leech data without att knowing? Really? Getting away with free tethering is one thing, leeching data without them knowing on their own network with the ability to monitor traffic from each device is another. Common sense will tell you that, first of all, if there was a way, you would have read it by now, considering your claim of using xda
as a resource. Secondly, even if there was a way, don't u think att would have fixed an issue of that magnitude by now? (Rolls eyes)
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Quote from somewhastock: All phones transmit imei numbers to att so they WILL know if your using a smart phone and automatically add the 2gb data plan.
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ATT only knows of IMEI numbers of smartphones they sell with 3 exceptions that I know of: Blackberrys, Iphones, and the Nexus 1. Others are not in their database so they know not what phone you have. And that's a fact. I have been doing this for over 2 years. Still on the $10 fullfeature phone plan with unlimited data. And I don't tether.
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Unfortunately, you will not. None of ATT's feature phones, the ones that would be able to get the unlimited, have HSPA+. You wouldn't be able to go faster than 3G speeds, but that's the price you pay. Lol
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I am not on the 4G plan, no. I use the older single APN. Do you actually think that matters? I still can't believe how many people are still fooled by this 4G crap. Especially within less than a year your 4G plans will all be outdated for the new LTE (The real 4G) that ATT is now implementing. Below is a screenshot from my Telus DHD. Not the best time of the day here as it is 3:40 PM. But my speeds are very good. I have hit as high as 6500MB download. Do you think this is 3G speed? Not.
Quote from cavsoldier19d: Not to be the **** of this discussion,but do u really believe that there's a way to leech data without att knowing? Really? Getting away with free tethering is one thing, leeching data without them knowing on their own network with the ability to monitor traffic from each device is another. Common sense will tell you that, first of all, if there was a way, you would have read it by now, considering your claim of using xda
as a resource. Secondly, even if there was a way, don't u think att would have fixed an issue of that magnitude by now? (Rolls eyes)
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No one is leeching data. And FYI, it depends how you tether as ATT can tell. And no they cannot detect my device. Just because you have not read it before, how can you possibly think it is not true? So sorry to say but you are. (Rolls eyes)
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ATT only knows of IMEI numbers of smartphones they sell with 3 exceptions that I know of: Blackberrys, Iphones, and the Nexus 1. Others are not in their database so they know not what phone you have. And that's a fact. I have been doing this for over 2 years. Still on the $10 fullfeature phone plan with unlimited data. And I don't tether.
I am not on the 4G plan, no. I use the older single APN. Do you actually think that matters? I still can't believe how many people are still fooled by this 4G crap. Especially within less than a year your 4G plans will all be outdated for the new LTE (The real 4G) that ATT is now implementing. Below is a screenshot from my Telus DHD. Not the best time of the day here as it is 3:40 PM. But my speeds are very good. I have hit as high as 6500MB download. Do you think this is 3G speed? Not.
No one is leeching data. And FYI, it depends how you tether as ATT can tell. And no they cannot detect my device. Just because you have not read it before, how can you possibly think it is not true? So sorry to say but you are. (Rolls eyes)
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I don't buy into that 4G crap from ATT. 4G to me is LTE. With the speed you got, I would say you got as close to LTE speeds while still being on a still 3g network. If ATT wants to call their HSPA+ network 4G, I will call it that just for their benefit. I believe the truth and side with the the original statement from the ITC about what is truly 4G.
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I am saying, irreguardless of what device u use, they can monitor the TRAFFIC that is coming from whatever device u are using. The whole basis of this question was whether u can go over your said data limit without att knowing. That question is absurd because they can monitor exactly how much data u are using, no matter what device or if u are rooted/romed
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I am saying, irreguardless of what device u use, they can monitor the TRAFFIC that is coming from whatever device u are using. The whole basis of this question was whether u can go over your said data limit without att knowing. That question is absurd because they can monitor exactly how much data u are using, no matter what device or if u are rooted/romed
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That...and technically it's theft...at least the way the OP is going about it...
Agreed.
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/att-cracks-down-on-tethering-cheaters/
how do they know? think it's purely based on how much data you are using at once time?
Think they are really doing this or just trying to scare people out of tethering?
There's a big thread on this on another iPhone site, but I'm curious how many android users have gotten this email.
Hmmm I could see a class action lawsuit coming from this. Along the same lines as when Apple tried to make jailbreaking illeagal. Personally I don't see a problem we are using the data we pay for. It should be up to us how we use it.
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what about a class action lawsuit about att 4G BS??
on att map, it shows i have 4G coverage in bayarea, CA but my speedtest never go higher than 4mb! speedtest on inspire 4G is the same as any 3G phones!
I tether once in a while, usually while on vacation. I did not get any notice. I seem to think this is triggered by data usage. I only use about 1GB a month.
Those of you that got notified, how much data do you use in a typical month?
Wow. I too think it's a 5GB or so trigger.
It's more the gateway than anything else. MyWi enables the broadband or ISP.cingular gateway. If we ensure we are going through the wap.cingular gateway then it is less likely. In addition, I would suggest anyone running anything close to stock edit your database in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.DB and ensure that anything in the area of 410310 doesn't say broadband or ISP.cingular, but wap.cingular or phone instead.
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It's more the gateway than anything else. MyWi enables the broadband or ISP.cingular gateway. If we ensure we are going through the wap.cingular gateway then it is less likely. In addition, I would suggest anyone running anything close to stock edit your database in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.DB and ensure that anything in the area of 410310 doesn't say broadband or ISP.cingular, but wap.cingular or phone instead.
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Good info, so if you changed your APN to wap.cingular would that do it?
The email in the link says AT&T sends text messages when we hit certain percentages of data used. I have never received such a message. Are they supposed to be automatic, or do I have to enable them?
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/att-cracks-down-on-tethering-cheaters/
how do they know? think it's purely based on how much data you are using at once time?
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I would say it is a little of both. This is nothing new, not even for AT&T.
Ultimately what it comes down to is, the amount of data you move at one time, services requested and types of packets sent/received. Everything which can be monitored on an automated basis.
For thethering I try not to over-do it, but only use it when I need it.
As far as I am concerned, I already pay for data usage and I should not be restricted on how I use it.
I have read people using 20+ gb a month. Those people deserve to be capped. They are the reason why capped data plans came in the first place. With that said how At&t is detecting this through browser Id's or Ttl is a mystery for now.o
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I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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Ditto what they said.
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I've consistently used more than 5 gigs a month the last few months and I don't even tether much at all. The vast majority of my data use occurs on my device.
*Haven't seen the aforementioned text or email btw
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7.5-8 for me, mostly Pandora.
I know this is the Inspire thread but I've been thethering with my HTC pure for months now (between 3-8gb) and have never heard anything... I wonder if it's because I'm directing my data through MediaNet or if I've been lucky so far.
Everything I'm reading says iPhone owners are the only ones getting notices.
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I wonder if they built something into the stock ROM that allows them to track and if by using custom ROMs we avoid detection.
$10 per GB is to much. I see if you upgrade your phone you can not keep your unlimited plan. 4GB is not enough if you do everything from your personal communication device.
I don't think it's unfair for AT&T to bump users off of unlimited plans if they are tethering with their device...the Smartphone data plan is for the phone...not for devices attached to the phone...they did have a 60 dollar tethering plan back in the day that was unlimited on the phone and 5GB for connected devices...I disagree more with AT&T capping DSL/Uverse more than I disagree with Mobile broadband caps...since a smartphone isn't supposed to be a person's primary source for internet
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I don't think it's unfair for AT&T to bump users off of unlimited plans if they are tethering with their device...the Smartphone data plan is for the phone...not for devices attached to the phone...they did have a 60 dollar tethering plan back in the day that was unlimited on the phone and 5GB for connected devices...I disagree more with AT&T capping DSL/Uverse more than I disagree with Mobile broadband caps...since a smartphone isn't supposed to be a person's primary source for internet
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I disagree completely. That's like saying a loaf of bread is $3, but if you're going to use it for grilled cheese it's $10. Both loaves make sandwiches, who cares what kind it is. In the end, you'll eventually run out of bread (unless you were grandfathered in).
My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop.
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you can pay most bills with the smartphone browsers. i only tether for streaming stock quotes (java applets) when i'm away from home. can your ipad or ipad2 does that? haha
this is why i rather carry my sony 4.5" UMPC when i'm away from home.
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My friend and I added a new apn from the steps in forum to allow tethering without a plan, well I rarely use mine but he uses his a little more to pay bills and such online through his laptop. He received a message yesterday from ATT stating that this sim is not authorized for tethering and to stop. From what I read I thought they were only catching those with the cryphone. Are they starting to look for others too, what's the deal we r both grandfathered in on the unlimited plan, it shouldn't matter how I use my mobile internet its the same wether I use it in my phone or tether through our laptops.
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Nooo! This is very concerning....
I also agree that everyone should be able to use their monthly allotted amount of data however they please.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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It was going to happen eventually. It's the cell phone equivalent of stealing cable. Most companies don't take kindly to losing money on hacked features.
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huh??
i have the 2GB plan, does it really matter how i use that 2GB? (laptop or phone?)
if i have cable, i can hook it up any ways i want! (to 50" HDTV, desktop, or laptop)
It's bad enough they (at&t) screwed themselves with the ipads, but now you they really want to be like apple n charge you twice because of it. Why should you have to have 2 data plans to use 1 data feature anyway?
I think it was really more for people like me that have unlimited data plans. I can use an ass-load more data with my laptop than I could with my phone.
Either way, a feature is a feature is a feature. They aren't the first, and they won't be the last big company to charge for stuff like that. As much as you or I don't agree with it (I really hate stuff like this), it's not enough to justify theft. I refuse to pay for tethering, so I just don't do it...
Also, if you read some of the Android guru's talking about the handset manufacturers all starting to lock their bootloaders. This is the reason. Before, when it was just us goofing about with our own devices and hurting noone, especially not the carrier, they couldn't care less. As we start moving into LTE with a tethering option, you'll see almost every single Android handset maker locking their phones down. Just look at the Thunderbolt... HTC has always been a big proponent of the Android dev scene, but they signed that bootloader. If you think it was for any other reason than to stop people from tethering and flooding Verizon's LTE network, you're crazy. Verizon may have forced their hand, but it's still done. Neither AT&T or Verizon want to have to deal with what AT&T had to with the iPhone saturation killing their network speeds(and the crap reputation it's brought them) when it comes to their new LTE networks. They'll do whatever they have to in order to guarantee the majority of their customers get a pleasant network experience. Even if that means making "Suggestions" to handset makers. Motorola did it, HTC did it, Samsung is next, then LG. And ultimately, we're going to be the ones to blame. That's just the way I've been seeing things. I may be completely off base...
*NOTE* The thunderbold has been hacked. Maybe there's hope after all.
At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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I had AT&T update my IMEI because I was going to be using a non-smartphone for "traveling" and had them put in an unlimited $10 data. Went ahead and popped my SIM into my Inspire, and I've only gotten two messages and an e-mail that they recognized I'm using a 4G SIM and that they've changed my plan accordingly. I called and checked my account online, and both show that I've still got the feature, so it's been working; plus, I've been using WiFi hotspot for my laptop this whole time.
Hope they don't catch on!
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At this point I don't really care anymore. If AT&T ever delivers 4G speeds I won't have to tether. Charge me, don't charge me, whatever. Being an AT&T customer is exhausting.
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You're not going to get 4G speeds with HSPA+. It's a 3.5G technology. The same thing that T-Mobile has been touting as 4G for the last year. They had great speed on their network because no one was using it... That's not being mean, it's just the way it is. If AT&T has this infrastructure and it was only 40% utilized, every current 4G phone (Atrix & Inspire) would be getting 10-14mb down.
I'm in Northern Atlanta (The home of AT&T wireless), and I get 5mb down and 2mb up late at night. During prime time, I pull 2.5mb down and 2mb up.
This will all change when AT&T starts rolling out their LTE network. It should be showing the exact same speeds as Verizon's. They're both similar in size, and running the exact same technology.
So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
@eatjello
Same exact thing I'm having, so hot, and charging is so slow I'm hating this phone a little, and continuous use last me just 4hrs wifi turned off and gps off. Charging takes 4 hrs +
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I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I get the same messages in my email & text from AT&T. I also have the iPhone unlimited data plan. I wonder if not having the right plan doesn't allow me to utilize the full speed of hspa+. I get like 3mbps down & 1.26mbps up. I'm also using my iPhone 4 microsim in my Infuse.
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
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If i bought this phone off of someone else who bought it from ATT, can i still trade it in for a new one?
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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i can confirm this is true. i just did what bullet told me to, i'm now on the 4G plan with unlimited data still. It's still annoying having a micro sim. but i guess it means i can go to the new iphone if i decide to
now to address the heat issue...
bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
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Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
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no you do not
just call in and tell them you have a new phoen and that you need to get switched over to your new data plan Smartphone personal 4G.
idk if there is a difference but the lady who did my change told me that since it was a 4G phone they give us a plan that has the advantage to access 4G when available idk if thats true but thats what i was told
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So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
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You just have to call cs, it is free unlimited data plan for 4g phones, i was offered the same with my inspire and i am presently on it.
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Free unlimited data? Not sure what you mean by that. If you already had a data plan, it was free to switch it over to the unlimited 4G. but you can't get the data free.
I had my unlimited iphone grandfathered over to the 4G unlimited data. but my "4G" speeds suck. they barely hit 2mps. no faster than my 3G plan was.
Upon searching I got too many results to filter through on these 2 questions...
1. Can i get 4g on this phone if I didn't buy it straight through ATT? I tried enabling it on my plan online and it flags that it's not my registered phone so it kicked it out.
2. Can I enable tethering without paying ATT? I've tried a few different apps but the ATT stuff still kills it.
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Upon searching I got too many results to filter through on these 2 questions...
1. Can i get 4g on this phone if I didn't buy it straight through ATT? I tried enabling it on my plan online and it flags that it's not my registered phone so it kicked it out.
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If you mean 3G/4G and not LTE then yes. Have no clue what you are trying to enable online. I have a non smartphone plan and I still get 3-6mbps depending on the time of day.
2. Can I enable tethering without paying ATT? I've tried a few different apps but the ATT stuff still kills it.
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Installing a custom ROM is the simplest way. Totally against tethering so that is all I am going to say on this.
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Upon searching I got too many results to filter through on these 2 questions...
1. Can i get 4g on this phone if I didn't buy it straight through ATT? I tried enabling it on my plan online and it flags that it's not my registered phone so it kicked it out.
2. Can I enable tethering without paying ATT? I've tried a few different apps but the ATT stuff still kills it.
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No way around paying for tethering. Not to mention if you use too much data and are on an unlimited data plan they will pull it and change your plan
3g only
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3g only
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The phone differentiates between Edge, 3G, and H+ (HSPDA), what some *say* can be called 4G. But if it is LTE that the web site is calling 4G, then the Inspire doesn't have that.
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No way around paying for tethering. Not to mention if you use too much data and are on an unlimited data plan they will pull it and change your plan
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I beg to differ, I've been tethering for years on my unlimited data plan and have never paid a cent for it. I don't use obscene amounts of data while doing it though.
OP, rooting and installing a custom rom will let you tether for free as long as you don't get caught.
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I beg to differ, I've been tethering for years on my unlimited data plan and have never paid a cent for it. I don't use obscene amounts of data while doing it though.
OP, rooting and installing a custom rom will let you tether for free as long as you don't get caught.
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Its only a matter of time. Att is watching the packets sent, so you will be caught soon enough.
ive used tethering scince I got my iPhone 3G which was my first phone and ATT hasn't said anything about it and I don't see why people think its wrong, YOU pay for the data YOU should be able to use it any way you want including tethering.
H+, 3G, EDGE, on an aftermarket rom you can enable tethering but you may get a letter fron ATT saying they noticed you were using tethering and if you continue tethering they may add a $45 tether plan to your account...
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Unless you have a data plan that includes tethering, doing so is a violation of the terms of service you agreed to, that's what's wrong.
OP, call AT&T and tell them what phone you're using. They should put in the appropriate data plan at no add'l cost or loss of unlimited data, if that's what you have. I got moved from a "regular" 3G plan to one that is HSPA compatible when I got my Inspire.
Of course, if you're referring to LTE, that wont work on the Inspire.
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pseudoware said:
Unless you have a data plan that includes tethering, doing so is a violation of the terms of service you agreed to, that's what's wrong.
OP, call AT&T and tell them what phone you're using. They should put in the appropriate data plan at no add'l cost or loss of unlimited data, if that's what you have. I got moved from a "regular" 3G plan to one that is HSPA compatible when I got my Inspire.
Of course, if you're referring to LTE, that wont work on the Inspire.
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Wait they are telling people.they need a different plan for HSPA? Lol
zelendel said:
Wait they are telling people.they need a different plan for HSPA? Lol
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They didn't tell me that. In fact, the personI spoke with was the one that mentioned my unlimited first. She assured me it wouldn't change.
tethering fee justified?
Agoattamer said:
Installing a custom ROM is the simplest way. Totally against tethering so that is all I am going to say on this.
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I am curious about your comment about being against tethering. Can you expand on that. I am trying to learn more on the topic. I will not flash a custom rom - have gotten use to SENSE.
I find AT&T being greedy by charging their customers a premium to tether. I pay $25 a month for 2GB and they want me to pay an additional $20 to tether and get another 2GB. I rarely use the 2GB I have now and want to tether when I am not at home when I travel usually. If I go over my 2GB limit, I have to pay $10 for each GB over 2. I am more than happy to pay the $20 more if I use the 2GB but having to pay it each month makes no sense to me - other than carrier greed. --- how does it hurt their network or other customers?
ATT is not the only one that charges extra for tethering. So does, T-mobile, Sprint, and Verizon. So before you start calling them greedy just stop and think. To say I am totally against tethering may have not been the correct words out of my mouth. ATT has let tethering slide for many years for those that just do it once in awhile for emails or occassional browsing. So they are greedy ehhh? But in this technical day and age there are those that abuse it. Some that just go too far with what they use it for and how much data they use. And that does make it bad for others in certain areas where the bandwith may get diluted. So ATT, like other carriers had to cap it off to make it fair for everyone. The ATT service is meant for your phone and not your home computer.
Buying a gun does not give you the right to take it out in the woods and shoot anything you want. You still need a license for what you shoot. If you travel that much then you can afford $20 extra a month. If you use it that little then seriously root your phone and take your chance tethering. You don't have to give up sense. I am running a ROM that looks and runs exactly like the Inspire 2.47 ROM except I don't have messaging bugs, most of my ads are gone, and I can tether with Hotspot if I so need to.
simard57 said:
I am curious about your comment about being against tethering. Can you expand on that. I am trying to learn more on the topic. I will not flash a custom rom - have gotten use to SENSE.
I find AT&T being greedy by charging their customers a premium to tether. I pay $25 a month for 2GB and they want me to pay an additional $20 to tether and get another 2GB. I rarely use the 2GB I have now and want to tether when I am not at home when I travel usually. If I go over my 2GB limit, I have to pay $10 for each GB over 2. I am more than happy to pay the $20 more if I use the 2GB but having to pay it each month makes no sense to me - other than carrier greed. --- how does it hurt their network or other customers?
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You are correct with this. Tethering should only be disallowed with the unlimited plan, as it has never been allowed with it. With the tethering plan, AT&T is not charging you more to tether. It is forcing you to buy more data for tethering. Since data is sold as blocks with the tiered plans and you pay for additional data used, tethering should be included with those plans. If you go over the 2GB, you are going to pay an additional &10 per GB and would end up paying $45 for 4GB anyways. AT&T not being so greedy would allow a person that only needs to tether a small amount in a pinch and doesn't go over the 2GB to not have to purchase additional data when they didn't need it. AT&T has it structured like everyone that wants to tether will use excess amounts of data. This is simlpy not true, and for those that do, the need to purchase additional data covers that. Now, the unlimited is different because one can tether greater amounts of data and not have to pay anymore. But with the tired plans, since data is bought I'm blocks, there is no way for abuse.
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mrhaley30705 said:
They didn't tell me that. In fact, the personI spoke with was the one that mentioned my unlimited first. She assured me it wouldn't change.
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The unlimited data is NOT lost. Data is still unlimited. But if you switch your sim from a phone that is not HSPA-compatible (like an iPhone) to one that is, you won't realize the faster data speeds unless you let AT&T know you've changed, and they change you over to an HSPA plan. But unlimited data wont change if you're already grandfathered in.
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pseudoware said:
The unlimited data is NOT lost. Data is still unlimited. But if you switch your sim from a phone that is not HSPA-compatible (like an iPhone) to one that is, you won't realize the faster data speeds unless you let AT&T know you've changed, and they change you over to an HSPA plan. But unlimited data wont change if you're already grandfathered in.
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Just an FYI I get the HSPA speed on a 2 year old prepaid sim card.
zelendel said:
Just an FYI I get the HSPA speed on a 2 year old prepaid sim card.
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Me too. SIM doesn't matter. Coding in the system doesn't matter. Hardware (radio) in the phone and software (radio, build.prop, apn, etc) configuration on the phone matters when it comes to which network your device is going to connect to
People who tethered on unlimited: Thanks, you are the reason that AT&T couldn't handle that much data use anymore.
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tribestros said:
People who tethered on unlimited: Thanks, you are the reason that AT&T couldn't handle that much data use anymore.
#sentfrommycm7desirehd
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There was a time awhile back when I tethered with my Windows phone, but rarely went over 1gb total usage for the month. I have never tethered with my Inspire, yet last month I went just over 4gb of usage. I know it is against the terms to tether with the unlimited, but for me, it is not more a matter if you tether or not, but a matter if you abuse it or not. And even if you don't tether, you could still use massive amounts of data on this phone. I know I could with the Netflix app alone.
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I've been using mobile hotspot on my inspire for about 4-5 months after rooting the phone. All was well... I was using my laptop and speed was decent to check emails, youTube, general browsing.
But I just a mail from at&t saying that "we noticed that you have been using the hotspot feature but you don't have the feature addon on your account. If you continue to use the hotspot feature, your account will be billed $45 automatically on your next billing cycle. If don't use the hotspot, you will not be billed". Hmmm... Anyone using hotspot on at&t get something similar notification from at&t?
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I have never heard of this before. Can they do that? Being Sarcastic
Got that back in October. Yes they can do that. I just stopped tethering.
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Yeah. I stopped tethering now. It was kinda weird that at&t sent the letter now.
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This has been covered all ready. ATT is cracking down on all teathering.
Yep, I posted something about this like a month or so ago.. I got the same letter. I just stopped tethering and have yet to hear anything about my data usage since. And I haven't noticed any throttling either except when they were threatening me about the tethering and such
I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
voyagerfan99 said:
I also got the same message. I'm actually guessing it was because I jumped from light tethering to a temporary massive download session with it. Gonna lay off for a while and see what comes of it.
Do any of the apps out there (like WiFi Tether for Root Users) actually allow you to tether without them noticing?
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No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
zelendel said:
No. There are some that are saying ATT is watching the packets that are being sent. Unless there is a way to make your PC send packets like a mobile device then there is nothing that can be done short of getting a tethering plan.
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Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
voyagerfan99 said:
Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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Does nobody read the TOS? This has been gone offer alot as of late.
But you are right. The standard of society is motivated by greed.
voyagerfan99 said:
Adding a tethering plan when you already have an unlimited data plan is really stupid to be honest. But I guess that's American greed for you.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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American greed? Maybe you better look at non-American cellular plans before you jump on that wagon. You are fortunate to be on a so called unlimited plan. Second your plan was technically never unlimited. 5GB fair use clause in the TOS that you never took the time to read.
ATT has let users slide for years with tethering and I can't remember ever being allowed to tether on an ATT plan without a tethering plan. It is one thing to use it for occassional email or browsing, but it is another to use it for streaming or online video games. It is that abuse that ruins it for everyone. So where is the greed? Is it the US cellular companies which are trying to keep it fair for everyone to enjoy fast and reliable service or is it in the consumer that is given an inch and takes a mile and then calls foul.
There is nothing wierd that anyone tethering, whether small amounts or massive amounts, is getting a letter. How many threads like this have been started? It is well known. ATT and the other major carriers have made it clear. No tethering without a plan. And they are cracking down and they mean it.
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I totally agree. 10chars
Only thing that gets me is everyone releasing all this new online crap, cloud storage, music/video streaming etc and now they're capping you on data usage. It's almost like its 1997 again and we're paying for AOL by the hour lol... At least having a 5gb package instead of the normal 2gb would be a bit more reasonable
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I've been warned before for something from AT&T I had hacked facetime on my iPhone 3gs they sent me a text saying that my phone wasn't registered for a facetime plan and then after that I guess there were characters my phone didn't recognize and half the message was in squares. The first day I had my iPhone though I had gotten a text and email pretty much telling me to stop tethering even though my iPhone wasn't even "set" up -.- it got me worried but I never got a price change
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PDANET hides the fact that you are tethering and you do not need root. It only works with bluetooth or USB cable, you can not use hotspot.
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If you think that's bad, I got booted off my unlimited plan today for tethering when I havent tethered since October and got the warning text in November :/ The lady at at&t said something about third-party apps using tethering without my knowing and to delete all of them off my phone. Don't know who they are trying to fool
ATT is removing the unlimited plans by any means they can. This is not surprising as they stated publicly that this was the plan. They use the tethering ploy as in common use there is no reason one should be using that much data to be honest with work, family and personal lives. Then add in the fact that wifi is just about everywhere.
AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
Rasa11 said:
AT&T is rubbish.
ATT and sprint belong in the rubbish bin.
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And you think big red is any better or T-Mobile? They are all doing it. It is about money plain and simple. This is nothing new or surprising
Donate me a few million and I will build us a satellite and we can have all our own service running 15g jkjk I'm tired of restrictions is all... I mean the new T-Mobile commercial says hey you get unlimited everything for 50$ a month then in fine print it says " after 100mb of 4g you're speeds get dropped to 2g" like wtf really? What's the point of having unlimited 2g? I mean I am on a plan with 2gigs of data but only have edge where I'm at I'm glad to have wifi where ever I'm at so it doesn't bother me too much but for companies to say they give us the best and then only give us a taste and tease us with it should be illegal -.-
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