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XBMC on Android

I think the time is near.
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* Added support for ARM processor architecture (with TI OMAP3 and NVIDIA Tegra 2 as reference)
* Added OpenMAX Video Acceleration support (requires OpenMax IL compatible hardware, like Tegra2
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The above was stated on changelog for the new stable XBMC release.
I am not expert on these things but is it really time for XBMC on Android tablets and phones?

This would be a great app for android,can anyone express their opinions in regard? Can it be done?

I would love to see this for my Xperia X10a.

How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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How would xbmc bring anything worthwhile to a mobile platform? Don't get me wrong, I love xbmc... On my tv.
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In light of the upcoming Atrix 4G with their media hub, this would be perfect for a portable xbmc which you can take anywhere with you (especially when you have to travel).

Open the doors and bring forth XBMC........ please?
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Those are two very specif SOC reference designs with limited availability in todays market. The Nexus One for example runs the MSM SOC, and Tegra2 phones were just announced this week.

It chapped my hide to find out that there are nearly full blown XBMC installs available now for iOS devices like the iPad and iPhone 4. How can there not be one in development for the Tegra 2 with existing tablets using that processor already available for purchase for less than $400...?

Yeah, with the elocity a7 @ $299 boasting a tegra 2 and 512 mb of RAM someone should jump on it.

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Do want.

Are there any news?

the majority of the libraries aren't a problem in a distribution sense, the NDK has support for that. the problem is the core ones, libc etc. Those which means a custom compiler. This won't do for market inclusion I bet. You can surely do a custom rom and just use the standard arm compiler but it would never be acceptible on market.
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http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=84194&page=7

just a thought what if it is coded for android live?

Ios version works really we on my iPhone 4. I was completely gob smacked to find out there wasn't a version that could run on my android tablet. Make no sense at all that to open source system dosen't have It while the Analy retentive ios has a fully fledged functional version.

I wouldn't mind some news on this either. I had an Ubuntu 10.04 box, built from spare computer parts, serving as my XBMC hub. I wouldn't mind a smaller more portable version.

I'd love an update too.

It won't work until someone compiles all the libraries XBMC depends on (it's a lot) for Android.
Someone had said they were going to do that, but that was about a month ago and no one has chimed in since then.
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wonder if they re doing it.....

i use xbmc on my apple tv 2 (the thing is USELESS without it...) and would really love to have this on either my phone or an android tablet if/when I decide to buy one.
Consider me confused as well at how ios has xbmc yet android doesnt? really???

I have been waiting for this for a long time
I have been waiting for this since before they released it for ios devices. I would pay good money for the ability to run xbmc on my android devices! If I knew how I would have given it a try but maybe someone who is talented at these things could do there magic. If there is anyone out there working on this it would be fantastic for all of us Android/XBMC users. I just think it suits the android devices better anyways bigger screens faster processors more freedom. Thanks and Please!!

[Q] Transformer 2 and Emulation

Hey Guys,
I have a newbie questions. Is there anyway to speculate (given the transfomer 2's specs) what type of next gen emulation we can expect. (I do know that 360s and Ps3's are impossible).
Thanks

well seeing as the tf can already handle ps1 emulation fairly well i'd assume that the tf2 will handle ps1 games perfectly. Correct me if im wrong but there isnt a xbox 1 or ps2 android emulator yet so its purely speculation at this point.

I doubt that were going to see any new console emulators any time soon since the systems they're trying to emulate are just becoming too complex to easily emulate. Not to mention the games themselves are pretty damn huge. As stated above AFAIK there arent even PC emulators for the Xbox1/PS2.
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Nothing really. I tried the latest PS2 emulator on a machine capable running Battlefield 3 @ 1680*1050 Highest avilable settings, but some PS2 games were stuttering. And given the Transformer's specs - PS1, NES, SNES, SEGA games will be emulated - some N64 games are laggy, but don't expect anything Next gen soon.

It'll be able to run Dreamcast at full speed. The TF struggles a bit on Dreamcast currently, but still hoping for some more optimizations.
There are PS2/Xbox emulators, but they aren't anywhere near a state of being able to run on this hardware. The PS2 PC emulator can actually handle just about any game with the proper settings and a good enough rig. But don't expect it to be able to run on Tegra3... or probably even Tegra4.

It will basically involve coding the emulation core from scratch for it to be optimized enough to run on ARM and Tegra specifically. Just porting them over won't be enough.

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I doubt that were going to see any new console emulators any time soon since the systems they're trying to emulate are just becoming too complex to easily emulate. Not to mention the games themselves are pretty damn huge. As stated above AFAIK there arent even PC emulators for the Xbox1/PS2.
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I'm playing FFX on a PS2 emulator (PCSX2) on my pc now without any problems. That game is about 4,5gb. Really hope the Prime has enough juice to pull it off.

There was a rule of thumb that emulators would work if the hardware was at least 10x more powerful than the emulated system.
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So im guessing we will have to wait untill we have more ram aswell because the tegra 3 prime still only has 1 gig
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Damn, I was going to say that 10x the power thing for emulators. The thing is that emulators are imitations, not optimized for the use intended.. you know?

think well ever see a GameCube emulator?

were far past the minumin specs requirements for dolphin to run gamecube emulations, so any modern phone could run a gamecube emulator.. the question is, is anyone currently working on one? we really only seem to have two big emulator developers, both who now have no real motivation to develop.. so i wonder if anyone would take on the job of porting a gamecube emulator to android.. does anyone know if anyone is working on such a project?

I guess it remains to be seen, but I think gamecube emulation on Android has several things going for it. One is the raw horsepower of today's high-end smartphones, with phones like the SGSIII and HTC One X sporting quad cores. Another encouraging sign was the abandoned dreamcast emulator that ran surprisingly well on a Galaxy S2, and even then it was largely unoptimized. It also helps that Dolphin on PCs runs a lot of gamecube games at 60 fps, so optimized emulation of the gamecube architecture is certainly possible with the right developers. Hopefully this idea gains momentum - who wouldn't like to see a functional gamecube emulator running on a phone?

Hell.. anything to be banging out Timesplitters 2 on my phone! But maybe there's too many buttons to fit on the screen? You'd need the Anolog, D-Pad, C-Stick, Z, L & R, Start button and main buttons.. on the PS1 Emulator (FPSE), you've got just the D-Pad and main buttons to worry about.
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Well maybe on Galaxy S3
Altough the Problem with the buttons remains
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Unlikely in the near future consider how far behind smartphone cpu's are. Maybe a few years down the road. Even with the new Exynos 5, it will still lag behind pc processors. The closest thing right now is a Gameboy Advance emulator.

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Unlikely in the near future consider how far behind smartphone cpu's are. Maybe a few years down the road. Even with the new Exynos 5, it will still lag behind pc processors. The closest thing right now is a Gameboy Advance emulator.
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I can play PS1 games on my galaxy S @ 60 fps with sound.

I don't think we'll see this for a very long time.
Although some game specs are very low, there are games that have very high requirements. Twilight Princess for example.
The other thing is, controls. Unless we have a bluetooth game controller, it would be very difficult to map any sort of playable controls to any modern smart phone. especially considering most smart phones now have only a touch screen.
On top of all that, there have only been a few dozen builds of dolphin for linux, afaik.
I could be wrong, but. the reality is, this is something that would take a lot of dedication, and it wouldn't be something the average smart phone user would benefit from, particularly due to the controls.
Lastly, we'd have to consider graphics. Although some smart phones are capable of doing some decent HD video, that doesn't mean they have the power to emulate physics engines and whatnot.

kronflux said:
I don't think we'll see this for a very long time.
Although some game specs are very low, there are games that have very high requirements. Twilight Princess for example.
The other thing is, controls. Unless we have a bluetooth game controller, it would be very difficult to map any sort of playable controls to any modern smart phone. especially considering most smart phones now have only a touch screen.
On top of all that, there have only been a few dozen builds of dolphin for linux, afaik.
I could be wrong, but. the reality is, this is something that would take a lot of dedication, and it wouldn't be something the average smart phone user would benefit from, particularly due to the controls.
Lastly, we'd have to consider graphics. Although some smart phones are capable of doing some decent HD video, that doesn't mean they have the power to emulate physics engines and whatnot.
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I think the biggest point is the performance. On my pc that can run BF3 on ultra it has trouble with gamecube emulation. Sure it pumps out 30 fps but it simply can't push out anything higher than that. And there are regular lagspikes when there are a lot of transparent particles on the screen. Overal the dolphin emulator is unoptimized. So if the pc version is having trouble I don't see a meager smartphone running it any better...
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I doubt that it would be my specs that make dolphin run slow...

Matt3333 said:
Hell.. anything to be banging out Timesplitters 2 on my phone! But maybe there's too many buttons to fit on the screen? You'd need the Anolog, D-Pad, C-Stick, Z, L & R, Start button and main buttons.. on the PS1 Emulator (FPSE), you've got just the D-Pad and main buttons to worry about.
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That's what Gamepads are for Blutooth modded Gamecube controller?

God the Game Cube, great console ever made the biggest challenge is to get all those buttons on a game cube controller on to the smart phone screen. Yes most smart phones now have massive screens but it would be pretty uncomfortable especially the buttons on the very front of the game cube controller. But that could be solved by using wireless controllers I guess..
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I think we need to distinguish between what is theoretically possible and what is practically possible. Theoretically speaking, we had the first-gen Samsung Galaxy S running a nearly playable (and unoptimized) build of a dreamcast emulator. You were getting decent FPS on the emulator running a high-end game like Shenmue (you can find some old videos on Youtube). The dreamcast was in the same gaming generation and had the processing power comparable to the PS2 and Gamecube. When you start considering the power behind the new quad core generation of phones, things become interesting.
As far as practically possible, it'll definitely take a lot of work and technical know-how. If a potential developer is interested in the financial incentives (who isn't?), they can look no further than fpse on the android market: 100,000+ downloads at $5 a pop. No easy change. It can be done, but you need the right people.

soraxd said:
were far past the minumin specs requirements for dolphin to run gamecube emulations, so any modern phone could run a gamecube emulator.. the question is, is anyone currently working on one? we really only seem to have two big emulator developers, both who now have no real motivation to develop.. so i wonder if anyone would take on the job of porting a gamecube emulator to android.. does anyone know if anyone is working on such a project?
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Eh
No Modern Phone Could Natively Run An Emulation Of Resident Evil 4
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vx117 said:
Unlikely in the near future consider how far behind smartphone cpu's are. Maybe a few years down the road. Even with the new Exynos 5, it will still lag behind pc processors. The closest thing right now is a Gameboy Advance emulator.
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Nah GBA Emulators Are Far Behind
I Could Run GBA Games On My 5320 Xpress Music And That Thing Didn't Even Have A Graphics Processor (However It Could Somehow Run NGAGE 2.0 Games)
I Have A HTC Sensation And I Can See It Emulating Everything Up To High End PS1 Games

But maybe there's too many buttons to fit on the screen? You'd need the Anolog, D-Pad, C-Stick, Z, L & R, Start button and main buttons.. on the PS1 Emulator (FPSE), you've got just the D-Pad and main buttons to worry about.

All the emulator work very good!!
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That's why I keep my PSP handy. Custom firmware and some hacking and you have a usable PSP! I don't have a Gamecube emulator since I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist, but the NES, SNES, GB, GBA, etc all work like a dream
BUT..... I must admit, I'm interested in this too. I'd like to know what comes of this...

It would probably be laggy, I mean maybe on the S3 but really :/

Quick question to the folks on this thread: What do you guys think about starting a Kickstarter fund for either a gamecube, dreamcast, and/or ps2 emulator? These take a lot of work but might garner potential interest from Android devs if we throw enough of a financial incentive behind it. What do you guys think?

I've see emulators utilize dual core, but never quad core. I don't think adding more cores is going to make emulation more viable. However as processors get smaller and performance increases, we may see something like that then. It could be a while though.
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It has nothing to do with specs. Even the most spartan modern netbook processor is miles ahead of processing to even the most cutting edge smartphone/tablet cpus.
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I think you're a bit off
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It has nothing to do with specs. Even the most spartan modern netbook processor is miles ahead of processing to even the most cutting edge smartphone/tablet cpus.
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I think you might be a bit off here. Here is a Tegra 3 vs the latest and greatest atom. They aren't far behind at all.
Unfortunately it wont let me post links, so Google "atom vs tegra 3" and it should be near the top. The hosting site is androidandme.com

Has there been any ouya vs sheild talk?

I think the hard part is getting non PC people to have a PC, with a 650 or better nvidia GPU. And then you have PC people that just need an upgraded GPU. And is nvidia gonna do first party break the ice with a bunch of mini game or small and quick MMO or plan on setting up a special something for shield owners? And then you have people who don't really want the portability all that much and will likely buy the poor man's gaming console, the ouya, which should refressh it's hardware every year or two. And isn't nvudia inside the ouya to start off with? Nvidia could get something jumpstarted where the ouya would work in this equation somehow or be a host server for man, or all out line if the right components are there and up to the task.
my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.

I'm still not too sure about either, to be honest. My Asus Infinity with a Tegra 3, and a PS3 controller with the Sixaxis app, currently handles all of my Android gaming. The Tegra 4 will be in Android tablets soon, though I think the first tablet getting the Tegra 4 will be running Windows 8. I'm just not too sure, YET, if Project Glass will be worth the extra money...
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The ouya has a tegra 3 at 1.3ghz. The Shield has a 1.9ghz tegra 4. Significantly more power.
The shield running stock android means it doesnt need to stream from a desktop PC. With the OUYA also being android based I reckon it would be a fairly easy port to get an OUYA game running on the shield, either with a port of the game code to the shield or possibly a modded OUYA SDK. Dependant on how much source code is available for the Shield roms and OUYA roms it might be possible to run an ouya rom on the shield.
Windows 8 wont run on a tegra 4. Namely because windows 8 is x86 only and tegra 4 is ARM.
Windows RT might but there have been no new windows RT devices announced so none with a tegra 4.
Only tegra 4 devices I know of right now are the shield, the HP splitbook x2 and the NVidia demo phone and demo tablets sold to manufacturers to sample what the tegra 4 and 4i can do.

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The ouya has a tegra 3 at 1.3ghz. The Shield has a 1.9ghz tegra 4. Significantly more power.
The shield running stock android means it doesnt need to stream from a desktop PC. With the OUYA also being android based I reckon it would be a fairly easy port to get an OUYA game running on the shield, either with a port of the game code to the shield or possibly a modded OUYA SDK. Dependant on how much source code is available for the Shield roms and OUYA roms it might be possible to run an ouya rom on the shield.
Windows 8 wont run on a tegra 4. Namely because windows 8 is x86 only and tegra 4 is ARM.
Windows RT might but there have been no new windows RT devices announced so none with a tegra 4.
Only tegra 4 devices I know of right now are the shield, the HP splitbook x2 and the NVidia demo phone and demo tablets sold to manufacturers to sample what the tegra 4 and 4i can do.
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The OUYA actually has a 1.9GHZ tegra 3 T33 processor (supposedly better than the T30L which is what youll find in devices like the Nexus 7, HTC one and Asus pads) The OUYA development tool (referred to by the developers as the ODK) is easily obtainable from their website. When you download it and install it (it's an apk) it boots you into the OUYA interface, acting like a launcher controlling it with my nexus 7's touch screen was clumsy and un productive and I didnt have access to the app store but I believe it would be quite easy to gain access. I also installed the play station mobile app on my nexus 7 but since it is not an officially licenced device with access to it it locked me out. This was fixed by flashing a package from custom recovery. No doubt the same applies to the ouya market.
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Tetra 3 uses a cortex A9. Tetra 4 uses A15 which is about 50% faster at the same clock speed. So even with the ouya being 1.9ghz it still has less CPU power than the shield. Has a weaker GPU too.
Only points the ouya wins on are cost and dedicated developer support. There are probably more people hoping to make ouya specific apps than there are shield specific apps, a relatively minor point seeming as those apps should play nicely on either device anyway.
Ultimately you could still hook a shield up to a tv and pair a Bluetooth gamepad with it (maybe even an ouya one when they get around to selling them on their own) if you want a living room console, then unplug cable and go if you need a portable device. It just comes at a cost.

Wasn't contradicting your statement was merely correcting some misleading information.
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There is a lot of hope from both camps (Ouya and NVIDIA) that these "controller-based" products will really push for developers to support landscape-only devices and dedicated controller support. While Shield has the advantage of a touch screen available, both devices are really driving toward controller-only development.

I could see myself getting one of these. Not at launch but after a couple critical mass games and the one that gets more quality support for console like gaming. The ouya is potentially a GameCube successor and the shield has a lot of potential but are people really going to put their smart phones and tablets down for a dedicated but still portable console.
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I could see myself getting one of these. Not at launch but after a couple critical mass games and the one that gets more quality support for console like gaming. The ouya is potentially a GameCube successor and the shield has a lot of potential but are people really going to put their smart phones and tablets down for a dedicated but still portable console.
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While I was previously interested in the OUYA for some hard core android gaming on a tv, I've kind of lost interest due to the fact that its model was meant to attract developers looking to make a name for themselves meaning small scale AA games. While there's nothing wrong with producing opportunity for new developers, it does mean that a good portion of the content will not be worth your time atleast in its early stages. The Nvidia Shield not only has the power to handle anythjng the market can pushout for atleast the next two years, the OUYA is packing hardware which is already outdated.
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While I was previously interested in the OUYA for some hard core android gaming on a tv, I've kind of lost interest due to the fact that its model was meant to attract developers looking to make a name for themselves meaning small scale AA games. While there's nothing wrong with producing opportunity for new developers, it does mean that a good portion of the content will not be worth your time atleast in its early stages. The Nvidia Shield not only has the power to handle anythjng the market can pushout for atleast the next two years, the OUYA is packing hardware which is already outdated.
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The ouya is supposedly getting new hardware every year. How they plan on doing that I don't know. It would be very nerdy and cool to unplug and drop a new SOC instead of buying the while console each time. And ouya seems to be off to a shaky start already with the controller and lag issues.
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The ouya is supposedly getting new hardware every year. How they plan on doing that I don't know. It would be very nerdy and cool to unplug and drop a new SOC instead of buying the while console each time. And ouya seems to be off to a shaky start already with the controller and lag issues.
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What I think they meant by that is that a new ouya with updated hardware will be released every year.
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Thanks to the easily exchangeable hardware of the ouya, I believe that we will see upgrade possibilities.
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What I think they meant by that is that a new ouya with updated hardware will be released every year.
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I think that is the way it will be, but if they designed it the right way it would be cool to just drop a new soc in and only have to buy a new ouya every 3 years or so. Upgrading just the hardware inside for $50 or so would be really cool on the wallet also.
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Thanks to the easily exchangeable hardware of the ouya, I believe that we will see upgrade possibilities.
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what are you on about?
The ouya only breaks down into 4 components. Case, lid, motherboard and fan. Nothing is removable from the motherboard and its hardly worth keeping the case between upgrades (besides, case has negligible financial impact). Only way you can upgrade the ouya is swap the entire motherboard in one go, or basically just buying a new ouya.
Swappable SoC's won't work as ARM chips don't maintain a standard pin out. To swap from a tegra 3 to a tegra 4 even requires a new motherboard. Workaround is to use a computer-on-module but that would not be effective for the ouya. Drivers for different SoCs are all different too. There is no feasible way to switch between SoCs in the ouya.
Just expect new hardware revisions every year or 2 instead.
Until then. Ouya VS shield. Ouya only really wins out for cost and size, and its not as if the shield is big. Ouya apps can probably eventually be coerced into running on the shield and ouya controllers would also work with the shield. Shield is more powerful, more portable. Only thing the ouya has and shield doesn't is the touchpad on the controller (exposes itself as a Bluetooth mouse so there is one workaround, or pair an ouya controller with the shield, or emulate it on the shield touch screen).

I believe the upgrade path for an Ouya would be to keep your old controllers, and just get the base unit.
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I love the idea of Ouya, but with the Xbox One and PS4 coming out in the fall I don't see a need for it.
The shield wins for me because I love the idea that I can play my PC games anywhere in the house or even the backyard. I love the idea of being able to use it like any other Android device. I love the portability and the power that the shield offers and I love that I can actually plug the shield into any TV im play those games right to it. If I wasn't such a big Xbox gamer and just wanted something cheap to play then I would consider the Ouya, but that's not the case and I have been looking for something that's portable with counsel quality gaming for a while now and the PC streaming is just a huge bonus for me.
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The shield does seem to have a more serious gamer allure but at a higher cost. The ouya would get the all around enthusiast gamer and would be much better suited for family or friend fun. Though I don't see why the shield couldn't support multiplayer from one shield output to a TV. I am not a serious gamer anymore but the Xbox one probably won't ever be in my living room if they really do undermine the second hand market like that. Probably the same for the ps4 if they decide to go ahead and do it. Still very interested in getting a ps4 in a couple of years when ps3 starts to show it's age in blue ray movies. The ouya might pique my interest in the meantime if they have some meaningful games.
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stanglifemike said:
I'm still not too sure about either, to be honest. My Asus Infinity with a Tegra 3, and a PS3 controller with the Sixaxis app, currently handles all of my Android gaming. The Tegra 4 will be in Android tablets soon, though I think the first tablet getting the Tegra 4 will be running Windows 8. I'm just not too sure, YET, if Project Glass will be worth the extra money...
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More like tablet (singular)

Is There Any Way To Port/Emulate The Nintendo Switch's OS To A Mobile Device?

Your probably gonna laugh at me, but i was just wondering if it would be feasible to port or emulate the nintendo switch's os on a mobile device. Most phones are armvi, the same as the swutch's cpu. Obviously you wouldnt be able to run games, as you would still need to emulate the gpu, but would this be possible. Sorry, im a bit of a noob.

Jack_Rickwood said:
Your probably gonna laugh at me, but i was just wondering if it would be feasible to port or emulate the nintendo switch's os on a mobile device. Most phones are armvi, the same as the swutch's cpu. Obviously you wouldnt be able to run games, as you would still need to emulate the gpu, but would this be possible. Sorry, im a bit of a noob.
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I don't think so.The GPU is the problem.Android phones have weaker battery conservative ones while gaming consoles have beasts.The same reason why we can't emulate ps games on android.But in near future virtualization could be possible for anything.
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Atifbaig786 said:
I don't think so.The GPU is the problem.Android phones have weaker battery conservative ones while gaming consoles have beasts.The same reason why we can't emulate ps games on android.But in near future virtualization could be possible for anything.
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We can emulate ps games on android tho, even psp and ps2 ones. I know you wont be able to run any games, but im talking about the os itself.

Jack_Rickwood said:
We can emulate ps games on android tho, even psp and ps2 ones. I know you wont be able to run any games, but im talking about the os itself.
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That is rookie stuff.The GPU gets complex and powerful and if you get to know about virtualization you will realize the GPU causes crazy **** if you try to containerize it i.e virtualize it.Apparently companies made sure that emulates weren't possible in the best way.It's been ages since ps3 is dead but we don't have a 100 functional emualtor or virtualizer for it.And that is on a machine that has hyper-v in their cpus.You can't.
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Jack_Rickwood said:
We can emulate ps games on android tho, even psp and ps2 ones. I know you wont be able to run any games, but im talking about the os itself.
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Sure, "in theory", the OS "might" be port-able, but that would be a waste of time and would probably brick some devices in the process of working bugs out. It would just be a lot of time, effort and money wasted.
You "could" "in theory", port the firmware from your TV remote control to work on an android device, but WHY would you? It is the sane scenario with the idea of porting the N-Switch OS. A completely bone-headed idea that isn't even worth the time that it takes to ask the question.
A more reasonable idea is to use a N-Switch emulator. Less risk of bricking devices trying to figure it out plus you would actually be able to play games.
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That is rookie stuff.The GPU gets complex and powerful and if you get to know about virtualization you will realize the GPU causes crazy **** if you try to containerize it i.e virtualize it.Apparently companies made sure that emulates weren't possible in the best way.It's been ages since ps3 is dead but we don't have a 100 functional emualtor or virtualizer for it.And that is on a machine that has hyper-v in their cpus.You can't.
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If you meant PS3 can't be emulated, then you should have specified. The way you posted was as if none of the PS systems can be emulated, that is far from the truth.
Even the PS3 emulator on PC is not that great, some games are playable but barely. I've tried several games they claim are playable but they are really slow and don't consistently load.
And that's on my 4790k system with 32GB RAM. Granted, a graphics card would be an improvement but that would pretty much only give a higher FPS, it wouldn't be much help on the games that are glitchy while loading.
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Droidriven said:
If you meant PS3 can't be emulated, then you should have specified. The way you posted was as if none of the PS systems can be emulated, that is far from the truth.
Even the PS3 emulator on PC is not that great, some games are playable but barely. I've tried several games they claim are playable but they are really slow and don't consistently load.
And that's on my 4790k system with 32GB RAM. Granted, a graphics card would be an improvement but that would pretty much only give a higher FPS, it wouldn't be much help on the games that are glitchy while loading.
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I just checked the specifications on the switch and it has a few chances of being able to run on Android considering it's a arm device.But the GPU is Nvidia which doesn't play along well with linux and it is tegra that is found in not many devices.But if you managed to somehow run it on android I don't think the bootloader is designed to handle some OS like that.I tried to boot a halium device using the same kernel as android with changed iniramfs and it didn't boot due to lack of 4 lines of code that specifies That in order to run the OS we need to have the same hardware as well as the bootloader which isn't possible.So,the second option is to emulate it.In the past golden age companies didn't care about emulators and made good stuff that was well designed and managed easily but with the rise of the Steam and the internet gaming they got mad and tried their best to mix the gpu and cpu more weirdly in order to degrade or slow emulation not that they could stop it.Plus every new games treats the hardware differently in order to extract every ounce of performance out of it starting from ps3.And you can very possibly emulate the OS in a container running on a device.But here's the twist,Virtualization in android has 50-80% loss in performance and with kvm can be minimized to 20-30 and thus brings us to the end where you don't have the hardware which you will emulate again slowing it down.So you need atleast snapdragon 935 or higher to do that stuff that is if developers arer willing.
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Atifbaig786 said:
I just checked the specifications on the switch and it has a few chances of being able to run on Android considering it's a arm device.But the GPU is Nvidia which doesn't play along well with linux and it is tegra that is found in not many devices.But if you managed to somehow run it on android I don't think the bootloader is designed to handle some OS like that.I tried to boot a halium device using the same kernel as android with changed iniramfs and it didn't boot due to lack of 4 lines of code that specifies That in order to run the OS we need to have the same hardware as well as the bootloader which isn't possible.So,the second option is to emulate it.In the past golden age companies didn't care about emulators and made good stuff that was well designed and managed easily but with the rise of the Steam and the internet gaming they got mad and tried their best to mix the gpu and cpu more weirdly in order to degrade or slow emulation not that they could stop it.Plus every new games treats the hardware differently in order to extract every ounce of performance out of it starting from ps3.And you can very possibly emulate the OS in a container running on a device.But here's the twist,Virtualization in android has 50-80% loss in performance and with kvm can be minimized to 20-30 and thus brings us to the end where you don't have the hardware which you will emulate again slowing it down.So you need atleast snapdragon 935 or higher to do that stuff that is if developers arer willing.
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I don't care to even try N-switch OS on android, waste of time that could be better spent.
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