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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
EwanG said:
Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms
bwcorvus said:
1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
2) Overclock
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
3) Titanium backup
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
4) Usb Hosting
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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bwcorvus said:
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
diaa08 said:
woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
diaa08 said:
dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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myv6mustang said:
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?
yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.
I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
bwcorvus said:
I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.
wase4711 said:
I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.
Ad blocking.
I have the nook color now. But I just got the transformer, and it will be here today.
Do I need to Root it like I did with the Nook color?
Any advice on things I should do up front?
Personally, ive put off rooting. My TF is smooth, fast, and responsive to the touch. After this last update, people are saying that even Netflix is no working. So no need to root for me.
But your usage might be different than mine. Try the seach box, i think theres a few posts about the advantages to rooting.
Backup
overclocking
Netflix (which sounds can be achieved without rooting now)
change your boot animation
You don't "need" to root it unless you have something that specifically requires root (like Titanium Backup, or a custom ROM you want to try, etc.). If you don't have any reason to root, you probably shouldn't. That said, you'll probably find a reason if you're in touch with your inner Android.
If you do decide to root, first make sure you don't have a B80 serial number, as I think those are still unrootable. Check the little sticker by the charger port on the bottom. B70's are maybe rootable, I've seen mixed reports. Earlier than that and you can use the one-click method or the "pure root" method, just browse the development thread.
Remember you will void your warranty and will not receive anymore OTA Updates from ASUS once you root it
And some people are having problems unrooting them, and still not getting OTA Updates
Rooting is good for things like getting rid of ads and other apps that need root access, but so far apart from these things I have had no need to root it
Silver is right. You don't have to root, it's a personal choice. Just like you didn't have to get the TF, you could have bought a iPad or cheap ass Touchpad. Will root give you some benefits that stock doesn't have? Yes, but you should know that since you've rooted your Nook Color. (You should be able to answer your own question off of that too)
Well, SwiftLegend, I turned the Nook color into more of a tablet than just an ereader.
I know the TF is a real tablet so I assumed I might not have too...
acdcking12345 said:
Well, SwiftLegend, I turned the Nook color into more of a tablet than just an ereader.
I know the TF is a real tablet so I assumed I might not have too...
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Let's start here: What's your model number? First three digits of your S/N on the sticker by the charger port.
rooting is a preference, asking people whether or not you should root (let alone, whether you "need" to root) is like asking others "what's my favorite ice cream flavor?"
just wait for your device, and ask yourself that question once you've used it after a while.
The first three of the serial number is B60
acdcking12345 said:
The first three of the serial number is B60
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Then you can root away if you so desire.
Just for future reference, it's probably, "B6O", the letter O, not the number zero.
acdcking12345 said:
Well, SwiftLegend, I turned the Nook color into more of a tablet than just an ereader.
I know the TF is a real tablet so I assumed I might not have too...
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But again, you didn't have to. That was my whole point. Not that you also rooted your NC. It's still the same concept anyways. The NC runs a custom version of Android, rooting it gave you special features. The TF runs a stock version of Android, rooting it will give you special features.
Tybalt said:
Just for future reference, it's probably, "B6O", the letter O, not the number zero.
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Just for future reference, it's actually "B60", as in the number zero.
SwiftLegend said:
But again, you didn't have to. That was my whole point. Not that you also rooted your NC. It's still the same concept anyways. The NC runs a custom version of Android, rooting it gave you special features. The TF runs a stock version of Android, rooting it will give you special features.
Just for future reference, it's actually "B60", as in the number zero.
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Understood SL, I guess I got so used to working my ass off to get the nook to do what I want, I never used an actual tablet device. BTW--It is freaking awesome. Rolled it to 3.2 and it is badass.
I even like the stock launcher..(Hope you dont think bad of me for saying that)
Definitely something to by choice. Personally, I rooted as I needed chainfire 3D to play certain games and wanted to improve my sound quality with voodoo drivers. As previously mentioned keep your device unrooted until you reach a point where it is a necesity not just something most do.
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Understood SL, I guess I got so used to working my ass off to get the nook to do what I want, I never used an actual tablet device. BTW--It is freaking awesome. Rolled it to 3.2 and it is badass.
I even like the stock launcher..(Hope you dont think bad of me for saying that)
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Haha, no problem. I worked hard to get my X2 and my D1 to where I wanted them. The stock launcher is pretty sweet though.
SwiftLegend said:
Just for future reference, it's actually "B60", as in the number zero.
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Actually . . . I just looked at mine, both the sticker and the box. The "O" does look more like a letter "O" compared to the narrower "0"s (zeroes) in the S/N. Bee-Six-Oh it is.
So I stand corrected. Will you stand with me?
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Actually . . . I just looked at mine, both the sticker and the box. The "O" does look more like a letter "O" compared to the narrower "0"s (zeroes) in the S/N. Bee-Six-Oh it is.
So I stand corrected. Will you stand with me?
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Meh. Whatever, Asus refers to it has B*0 was well. Maybe it was just a typo or maybe we are all wrong. Doesn't really matter though, since we all understand it either way
You don't need to but it has the advantages of overclocking and full filesystem access.
It depends on what you're about using for. I think it's always useful, because from terminal you can do anything, but without root nothing. And many great aps needs root.
Hey, When do you think we can Root B70?
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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If you have to ask after reading all that then you should not root.
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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I would suggest staying stock. Rooting is not for those not willing to take risk and learn. It's not about what you gain its more about what you can control. Anything beyond that im sure youve googled.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=benefits+of+rooting+android
My girlfriend and her daughter still run a stock ROM. But I rooted both for 2 main reasons. Backing stuff up and to get rid of all those ads.
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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I felt the same way until I got bored of the stock ROM/bloatware and came across this forum... I found the one step Root method and away I went! However, I was a nervous wreck throughout the process... But, it's worth it. If you already had a rooted phone why not do it to this one?
Just to make sure you know, rooting your phone will void your warranty, as will installing a custom ROM.
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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Dude, I can completely second everything in your post. Kinda creepy, I'm also David. Haha
The only reason to root really is if you want to tinker with your phone. Other then that the average person has no use for root or custom roms.
zelendel said:
The only reason to root really is if you want to tinker with your phone. Other then that the average person has no use for root or custom roms.
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You hit it right on the head here .
I root to have "control ",and to be anything but average . Being forced to use bloated roms with ad's etcetera ,is not my game .
I hate the status quo ,and I hate carrier branded bloat .
This is my 3rd rooted phone this year ,and I'd do it all again ....g
Why Root?
This has it advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are that you are able to make your device your own, and use custom features, that you can not have when you not rooted. Disadvantages are: None! Unless you try to install something is not made for your device, or you fail to follow the DEVS advice.
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This has it advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are that you are able to make your device your own, and use custom features, that you can not have when you not rooted. Disadvantages are: None! Unless you try to install something is not made for your device, or you fail to follow the DEVS advice.
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There is a disadvantege for alot of people and that is once rooted OTA updates will no longer be reliable. Not like they are on stock anyway lol but alot of people want to be able to OTA. God knows why but hey to each their own.
I guess that if you are asking that you probably don't know what rooting involves. Then you should try to do some research, watch youtube videos and so on to find out what are the advantages of having a root device. If your phone is just a phone to you...then stay stock.
It's not an easy question to answer and frankly it is absolutly subjective.
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I guess that if you are asking that you probably don't know what rooting involves. Then you should try to do some research, watch youtube videos and so on to find out what are the advantages of having a root device. If your phone is just a phone to you...then stay stock.
It's not an easy question to answer and frankly it is absolutly subjective.
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You are right on that. But please don't put faith in YouTube videos. They have been the cause of many bricks as they don't explain anything about what your doing. They are great for seeing someones set up but not for any real info
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You are right on that. But please don't put faith in YouTube videos. They have been the cause of many bricks as they don't explain anything about what your doing. They are great for seeing someones set up but not for any real info
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Yeah you are right. Sorry...I forgot to mention that you always have to read Dev´s and thread´s instructions. Youtube videos are just usefull to see how you can customize the phone or some new tweaks that was the intention. To be totally plain I watched many videos to see how a custom rom was...but then came here and read all thread´s about rooting and flashing...
Root if you want your poop to smell like rainbow sherbet. Oh wait, that is what people think happens when you buy an apple product...
In that case, root to be even better than iPhone than you already are. If benchmarking matters not, follow these guys' advice and STAY STOCK!!! Once you flash, you can never go back. It is a consuming addiction to flash new ROMs.
Just because
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
nmbr1ctrman said:
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
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That is never a reason to do it. This right here is the main reason we have so many bricks on XDA
nmbr1ctrman said:
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
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I seriously considered that very line, the reconsidered because I told a buddy the same thing and never heard the end of it with questions and pursuing things that would definitely brick his phone.
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My inspire is mission critical to my job and ultimately my income...i can'tafford to risk a brick for some ROM that might be a little better. however, when I upgrade after my two years I tinker like crazy...my Aria has tried all the roms and is the test bed for apps and devs.
Bottom line: Take your chances if you can afford it...
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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first off wrong section , secondly ... you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
Just wait for the ota. Most roms come with superuser
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I'm afraid I'm gonna brick it
I still have 7 months till my next upgrade
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Not much experience with rooting
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elias0441 said:
Not much experience with rooting
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167819
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FL0OD said:
Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
@elias, the only option you have if you want ICS and don't want to root is to wait for the official OTA which should be rolling out soon. Once you have ICS from the OTA you won't be able to roll back to GB without rooting (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one)
True
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
vhgomez36 said:
Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
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Yup you can Odin whatever vhgomez shares with you
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
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If you can follow simple, well written instructions you can reap the many benefits of a rooted phone. Btw... you know this is not even close to develeopement, why would you post a question here?
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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zeeraf said:
you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
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Also, the guides are written very well, so bricking should not be a concern.
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/snip. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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oh snap!
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours. There is no way that 99% of people with a Nexus S have it for hacking. I have yet to meet one the wild that has been used that way.
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
Don't forget, some people got them because best buy was giving them away for free.
Not me, although I did get mine for free, I got mine for "fastboot OEM unlock".
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jeremerw said:
That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
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As others have said, this was the wrong section for this, but I will not harp on that.
I also want to apologize for a very poor showing from our community. Sometimes this forum is an embarrassment, especially in juxtaposition to other Linux communities. There are a good deal of very arrogant people here, who just cant seem to help jumping all over the new guy. Im surprised no one called you a noob.
With all of that said, I want to agree with your posting above. Speaking as a system admin for a mid-sized company, your reasoning for owning this phone is the exact reason why it has been handed out to every employee here.
Now on to your question. Because of the age of our phone, the development community behind it is very mature. Not the users, but the tools. It is very hard to brick your phone, in fact you might say you would have to go out of your way to truly brick the device. You might get a soft brick, but even that is hard to do and is still easily fixed via ODIN.
As others have said, there are very easy to follow instructions on unlocking and rooting this device. These are not really hacks, as this phone was meant to have these things done to it. I do understand the hesitation, though after the first time you go though doing it, you will wonder what you were so scared of in the first place. You can always give this thread a try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250583&highlight=one+click+root
to make things easy on yourself. After you get it rooted, familiarize yourself with making a NAND backup in the custom recovery first thing. This is basically an image backup of your device allowing you to jump back to safety should you do something wrong during a custom rom install.
Here is the way I look at it. If you have your phone rooted with a custom rom and it breaks and you need to return it for some reason, then ODIN will flash you back to stock and you'll have no worries about returning it to Sprint. If you some how destroy your phone to the point where not even ODIN will have access to fix it(AKA your phone goes swimming), then Sprint will not have access to the device either and will have no clue you rooted it. What some of these knuckleheads are poorly trying to get across to you, is that the phone you own, wants to be rooted.
Good luck and welcome to the community.
Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
bhags8 said:
No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
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No.
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el_smurfo said:
Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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antny said:
Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Doughh said:
Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
rugmankc said:
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--