You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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If you have to ask after reading all that then you should not root.
I got your 10 char right here
abso Bacon Mod
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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I would suggest staying stock. Rooting is not for those not willing to take risk and learn. It's not about what you gain its more about what you can control. Anything beyond that im sure youve googled.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=benefits+of+rooting+android
My girlfriend and her daughter still run a stock ROM. But I rooted both for 2 main reasons. Backing stuff up and to get rid of all those ads.
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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I felt the same way until I got bored of the stock ROM/bloatware and came across this forum... I found the one step Root method and away I went! However, I was a nervous wreck throughout the process... But, it's worth it. If you already had a rooted phone why not do it to this one?
Just to make sure you know, rooting your phone will void your warranty, as will installing a custom ROM.
mydogyuma said:
You've been asked this and seen this how many times?
I've read and read and read......and I see people who have problems after problems after problems...........so WHY should I root?
What are my benefits? HONESTLY
I have an AT&T HTC Inspire 4G with 2.3.3 Gingerbread
I previously had an HTC Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5 custom rom, etc. so I understand some of the techy side.
Thanks for your opinion.....I'm listening.
David
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Dude, I can completely second everything in your post. Kinda creepy, I'm also David. Haha
The only reason to root really is if you want to tinker with your phone. Other then that the average person has no use for root or custom roms.
zelendel said:
The only reason to root really is if you want to tinker with your phone. Other then that the average person has no use for root or custom roms.
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You hit it right on the head here .
I root to have "control ",and to be anything but average . Being forced to use bloated roms with ad's etcetera ,is not my game .
I hate the status quo ,and I hate carrier branded bloat .
This is my 3rd rooted phone this year ,and I'd do it all again ....g
Why Root?
This has it advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are that you are able to make your device your own, and use custom features, that you can not have when you not rooted. Disadvantages are: None! Unless you try to install something is not made for your device, or you fail to follow the DEVS advice.
SGF11 said:
This has it advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are that you are able to make your device your own, and use custom features, that you can not have when you not rooted. Disadvantages are: None! Unless you try to install something is not made for your device, or you fail to follow the DEVS advice.
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There is a disadvantege for alot of people and that is once rooted OTA updates will no longer be reliable. Not like they are on stock anyway lol but alot of people want to be able to OTA. God knows why but hey to each their own.
I guess that if you are asking that you probably don't know what rooting involves. Then you should try to do some research, watch youtube videos and so on to find out what are the advantages of having a root device. If your phone is just a phone to you...then stay stock.
It's not an easy question to answer and frankly it is absolutly subjective.
glevitan said:
I guess that if you are asking that you probably don't know what rooting involves. Then you should try to do some research, watch youtube videos and so on to find out what are the advantages of having a root device. If your phone is just a phone to you...then stay stock.
It's not an easy question to answer and frankly it is absolutly subjective.
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You are right on that. But please don't put faith in YouTube videos. They have been the cause of many bricks as they don't explain anything about what your doing. They are great for seeing someones set up but not for any real info
zelendel said:
You are right on that. But please don't put faith in YouTube videos. They have been the cause of many bricks as they don't explain anything about what your doing. They are great for seeing someones set up but not for any real info
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Yeah you are right. Sorry...I forgot to mention that you always have to read Dev´s and thread´s instructions. Youtube videos are just usefull to see how you can customize the phone or some new tweaks that was the intention. To be totally plain I watched many videos to see how a custom rom was...but then came here and read all thread´s about rooting and flashing...
Root if you want your poop to smell like rainbow sherbet. Oh wait, that is what people think happens when you buy an apple product...
In that case, root to be even better than iPhone than you already are. If benchmarking matters not, follow these guys' advice and STAY STOCK!!! Once you flash, you can never go back. It is a consuming addiction to flash new ROMs.
Just because
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
nmbr1ctrman said:
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
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That is never a reason to do it. This right here is the main reason we have so many bricks on XDA
nmbr1ctrman said:
Rooting is awesome. That's why you should do it.
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I seriously considered that very line, the reconsidered because I told a buddy the same thing and never heard the end of it with questions and pursuing things that would definitely brick his phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
My inspire is mission critical to my job and ultimately my income...i can'tafford to risk a brick for some ROM that might be a little better. however, when I upgrade after my two years I tinker like crazy...my Aria has tried all the roms and is the test bed for apps and devs.
Bottom line: Take your chances if you can afford it...
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I am looking for a good android phone on at&t. It seems that the captivate is the only really good choice. is it worth it? also, how easy is it to root? I understand that recent app for rooting does not work on the captivate.
If you can get something else on another carrier, do it. If you can wait for something else. Do it.
If you HAVE to get an Android Phone, RIGHT NOW, on THIS NETWORK, then yes Captivate.
But otherwise, NO ****ING WAY BOOOOO CAPTIVATE.
MikeyMike01 said:
If you can get something else on another carrier, do it. If you can wait for something else. Do it.
If you HAVE to get an Android Phone, RIGHT NOW, on THIS NETWORK, then yes Captivate.
But otherwise, NO ****ING WAY BOOOOO CAPTIVATE.
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my parents say it has to be on at&t, I do not have a cellphone at the moment, so I would say yes to the RIGHT NOW and ON THIS NETWORK. is rooting a real pain in the ass with the captivate?
There are one click root programs and one click roms.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
thanks guys
ghost55 said:
my parents say it has to be on at&t, I do not have a cellphone at the moment, so I would say yes to the RIGHT NOW and ON THIS NETWORK. is rooting a real pain in the ass with the captivate?
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No, rooting has been made simple. Do yourself a favor and read, read and read some more before you try anything. It's best to know you can recover when you make an oopsie, we've all made at least one.
added: and welcome to the forums!
I'd say get the HTC Aria - it is on par performance wise with today's phones. It works. It can be rooted and overclocked. You can run Cyanogen Mod on it out of the box.
But... it is not the fastest phone that AT&T has today.
I love my Captivate... when it works.
But with non-working GPS (and flaky when after much tweaking I do get it up and running.)
And now the phone is suffering from shutdowns after I charge the phone all the way up. Will need to warranty it to hopefully get a build # that will "work".
..... Good thing is that XDA has a rocking' community for this phone - and for those it works for - it is a great phone.
So - its ultimately up to you. Good Luck
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No, rooting has been made simple. Do yourself a favor and read, read and read some more before you try anything. It's best to know you can recover when you make an oopsie, we've all made at least one.
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I am going to read all of the xda stuff on the captivate before I do anything to root or overclock the device (overclocking on of those things is my current goal here)
ghost55 said:
I am going to read all of the xda stuff on the captivate before I do anything to root or overclock the device (overclocking on of those things is my current goal here)
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If you are going for speed then you need either the Cappy or the x10, nothing else AT&T has comes close.
Personally between the 1GHZ, 16gb of storage and the beautiful screen, I wouldn't trade my Cappy for any other phone on the market, even though the GPS is crap.
No issues w/ my Cappy... GPS works accurately everytime (shhh!) there's just minor lag when I reboot the phone until the media stops scanning. one-click root will take you longer to download the app to your PC than it will to root it.
Let's the rom cooking begin...
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Let's the rom cooking begin...
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It's already begun. This is a Desire HD. There is plenty already available, including CM7.
what doesnt work on cm7 for it?
Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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Well the thing is, we have to wait n see what bootloader it has, if it the old one or the one that we can downgrade, then we can root, and if we can root, ummm im pretty positive we can flash any rom from the Desire HD rom section.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I already have a root procedure in mind that I think will work. The HBOOT doesn't matter - the exploit in the newer HTC devices was not in the HBOOT. But the radio version does.
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I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
aNdroidnut said:
I take it you will be laying down the aria to play with your new Inspire?
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Momentarily. The Aria will still need support for CM. I'm it. This device is established and has good support already. We just need to document the procedure to root and get custom recovery on it, which will be a little more complex than the Euro DHD.
regoice, the great and mighty attn1 has come to the inspire, not sure if its a good thing or not as i still am using my aria but.... oh well.
I will have this phone when it comes out on the 13th, looking forward to some modding. I'm coming from an iphone, JB, customized etc, it's no longer any fun. Hope the roms work and the root is easily attainable, I will be back in here when i get the phone....5 days
I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
slapdaddy said:
I will be getting one of these on launch, though I'm not sure if stores are going to have the phone for a more expensive price than what's shown online. I'm coming from an HTC Fuze and this will be a big improvement for me....now I'll have a nice shiny new gadget to sleep with.
I'm hoping that by some stroke of luck I'll get one that allows sideloading but if not, there are ways around that....I don't like my devices being locked in any way. How long does it generally take to root new phones when they're out? I'm new to Android (been a WM person for quite a few years now) so I'm still trying to read as much as I possibly can about the OS and how it works.
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I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
legend221 said:
I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
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Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
I seriously hope we have a root on launch day lol, i mean stock sense is ok but I can only deal w it for so long.
legend221 said:
I was a WM user for a long time as well.
Once I owned Android Id never go back to anything else.
The complexity of rooting is dependent on the device.
Some phones are rooted even before launch day, hahaha.
Here are 4 links that pretty much break it down for you:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
http://www.firstdroid.com/2010/04/27/rooting-explained-via-android-police/
http://lifehacker.com/#!5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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Looks like the Canadian version from the carrier Telus launched today. From what I've read we should be able to flash that modems soft/firmware and get the full advantage of functioning hsupa. I also will be wasting my entire day in tinkertown lol.
Oh.Y.Not said:
Also a long time WM user, first Raphael, currently Rhodium. I love HTC devices.
Looking forward to getting the Inspire as well, really thinking that I'll get one at launch. From all indication this should be very similar to DHD. Hopefully the device will be rooted very quick.
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All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
slapdaddy said:
Thanks for the information! Yeah I'm looking forward to this Sunday - I'm probably going to just go in the store when it opens and grab one up then waste the ENTIRE DAY tinkering with it and giggling like a baby with candy.
One thing I didn't see in those articles was the radio firmware for the phone. I've installed and tested... quite a few radios on my Fuze in order to achieve the best possible phone and GPS signal I can get. Is this possible once the phone is rooted?
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As rwon said our Canadian friends have the Inspire / Desire HD now too, the dev ezterry that brought and continues to provide so much to the HTC Dream / G1 community is from there so the talent is definitely of high caliber up north from us.
The MotoDur Atrix to me is seeming to be a bad product already and it hasn't even launched yet, hahaha
So is it safe to go buy the dhd right now? Think there will be root forthe telus desire hd? I can get contract price out of contract today
legend221 said:
All signs point to yes, undoubtedly we are going to blow this Inspire 4G up with root goodness, then once we get a custom recovery BAM! custom roms are soon to come after that. Overclocking the phone will yield results similar to Dual Core devices as posted by me in another thread.
The real power of this phone will shine brightly after all the above
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I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
rwon said:
I'm very hopeful that that many of the tricks and customization from the DesireHD will be able to be adapted. I want my dual core killing battery sipping 4g hsupa enabled monster on release day
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I'm with you buddy, we all look forward to such work.
I have the phone as of this afternoon, already put a full body shield so I cant play with it as much as Id like to however.
Tomorrow Ill take it out after the settling in process of the skin.
Just wondering if we will ever see a one click root for the HTC EVO SHIFT 4G running 2.3.3 :/
I used to root using ADB, actually, my samsung intercept is still rooted....But I have no warranty on my evo, nor do I plan on buying one from sprint.. Really don't wanna go through this phone like I did with my intercepts messing them up
(pretty much just want to fix my 3g speeds and use downloaded apps and one theme...not looking to do a bunch of roms or kernals or eclair etc like I did with my intercept before I moved to froyo haha.)
Highly doubt it since we figured out how to downgrade and root that way but you never know. There might be a dev out there looking for an exploit
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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crump84 said:
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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From what i've read on it, it unlocks bootloader but it still has S-on but as always i could be wrong
I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
Sent from a MikRunny Inspire,cause I had to trade that pos thrill!
strapped365 said:
Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
Sent from a MikRunny Inspire,cause I had to trade that pos thrill!
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
IWillNotChange said:
I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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You realize that after you downgrade you can flash any Gingerbread or ICS ROM that you like. You can also update to the latest radio's. The only this that will stay downgraded is bootloader.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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LOL just like his name says.. IWillNotChange even in the views of downgrading all jokes my friend. But we do cause stock gingerbread roms that was only alter to have superuser rights.
IWillNotChange said:
Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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One Click Root at this point will probably never happen. The reason is we have a downgrade root and the source to ICS is out in the wild so what few devs we have seem to be more interested in getting ICS working on the Shift. So if you want a rooted shift your only choice at this time is to downgrade.
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
°•neXus S4G•°
first off wrong section , secondly ... you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
Just wait for the ota. Most roms come with superuser
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I'm afraid I'm gonna brick it
I still have 7 months till my next upgrade
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Not much experience with rooting
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elias0441 said:
Not much experience with rooting
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167819
°•neXus S4G•°
FL0OD said:
Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
@elias, the only option you have if you want ICS and don't want to root is to wait for the official OTA which should be rolling out soon. Once you have ICS from the OTA you won't be able to roll back to GB without rooting (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one)
True
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
vhgomez36 said:
Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
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Yup you can Odin whatever vhgomez shares with you
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onigiri1692 said:
Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
°•neXus S4G•°
If you can follow simple, well written instructions you can reap the many benefits of a rooted phone. Btw... you know this is not even close to develeopement, why would you post a question here?
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FL0OD said:
Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
°•neXus S4G•°
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
onigiri1692 said:
Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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zeeraf said:
you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
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Also, the guides are written very well, so bricking should not be a concern.
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/snip. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
°•neXus S4G•°
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oh snap!
FL0OD said:
I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours. There is no way that 99% of people with a Nexus S have it for hacking. I have yet to meet one the wild that has been used that way.
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
Don't forget, some people got them because best buy was giving them away for free.
Not me, although I did get mine for free, I got mine for "fastboot OEM unlock".
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jeremerw said:
That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
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As others have said, this was the wrong section for this, but I will not harp on that.
I also want to apologize for a very poor showing from our community. Sometimes this forum is an embarrassment, especially in juxtaposition to other Linux communities. There are a good deal of very arrogant people here, who just cant seem to help jumping all over the new guy. Im surprised no one called you a noob.
With all of that said, I want to agree with your posting above. Speaking as a system admin for a mid-sized company, your reasoning for owning this phone is the exact reason why it has been handed out to every employee here.
Now on to your question. Because of the age of our phone, the development community behind it is very mature. Not the users, but the tools. It is very hard to brick your phone, in fact you might say you would have to go out of your way to truly brick the device. You might get a soft brick, but even that is hard to do and is still easily fixed via ODIN.
As others have said, there are very easy to follow instructions on unlocking and rooting this device. These are not really hacks, as this phone was meant to have these things done to it. I do understand the hesitation, though after the first time you go though doing it, you will wonder what you were so scared of in the first place. You can always give this thread a try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250583&highlight=one+click+root
to make things easy on yourself. After you get it rooted, familiarize yourself with making a NAND backup in the custom recovery first thing. This is basically an image backup of your device allowing you to jump back to safety should you do something wrong during a custom rom install.
Here is the way I look at it. If you have your phone rooted with a custom rom and it breaks and you need to return it for some reason, then ODIN will flash you back to stock and you'll have no worries about returning it to Sprint. If you some how destroy your phone to the point where not even ODIN will have access to fix it(AKA your phone goes swimming), then Sprint will not have access to the device either and will have no clue you rooted it. What some of these knuckleheads are poorly trying to get across to you, is that the phone you own, wants to be rooted.
Good luck and welcome to the community.
Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
bhags8 said:
No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
bhags8 said:
No.
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Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--