I'm currently on stock rom with it rooted. I wanted to know if i do a back-up of a fresh install of the stock rom and I start to delete files off my phone. If I happen to delete the wrong file, can I restore with the back-up, will those delete files be there again?
If you have a custom recovery installed that supports backups then create a backup with it and delete whatever you are trying to. If **** gets bad then just use the recovery option to restore and you should be back to where you started
Did you do a Nandroid backup, through CWM, or a Titanium type backup ?
A nandroid one will restore the phone to the point in time of the backup. Any changes since it will be lost during restore.
Titanium, or similar, will allow a finer granuality of files/apps/data..
If you play at swapping ROMs and want to revert a nandroid backup is a MUST.
Kernel backup?
This may be a strange question. I just got a T Mobile Sensation yesterday and already rooted, s-off, and did a Nandroid Backup. I previously had a Samsung Captivate and flashed it all the time. This is my second Android device and first HTC device, on the Captivate Nandroid only backed up the ROM without touching the kernel making flashing back and forth between ROMS a PITA. Is the same true with HTC Sensation, will Nandroid also backup the kernel?
Please don't flame me, I used search and found this thread so I am attempting to find answers without starting new threads on topics already discussed.
Thanks.
gol_n_dal said:
If you play at swapping ROMs and want to revert a nandroid backup is a MUST.
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Does that mean that with a Vodafone NL branded phone (no RUU available for download at this moment), I can S-Off, Root and use nandroid backup to create an image I can always return to?
I want to get rid of the VF crapware as well as the quicker updates. In other words: a stock HTC (not vodafone) ROM.
In case of a hardware defect (unrelated to flashing other ROMs*), I want to be able to get back to VF branded, so the guys at HTC (who know what S/N belongs to Vodafone) won't see anything weird.
Thanks
*: If I mess up, I am willing to pay for it. But if it's unrelated, I don't want HTC to be able to start whining about software changes by me.
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Right now I've got 6 back ups of different ROMs, including a stock ROM. This seems somewhat high to me, but perhaps you guys keep more?
I use to backup every time before I flashed a ROM, and probably had a stockpile of like 4-5 backups. Then I realized those backups are worthless to me. Titanium Backup makes a backup of my apps and all other data is synced to some other system in one form or another.
The only reason I was making backups was because I thought I might need to revert back to one in the case of a bad flash. In reality, if I have a bad flash...the first thing I'm going to do is use Odin to restore to JF6 and try the flash again, NOT restore my Nandroid backup.
Once I had that realization, I saved quite a bit of time in my ROM flashing "procedures" since I didn't have to wait for a Nandroid backup to complete, and then move it off the phone to a desktop.
^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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I've just come to that realization after a bad flash with Axura. The ROM is great, but I tried Nandroiding and doing CWM recovery and neither time did my back up work. This has happened before and I'm sure as hell glad I bought Titanium Backup. I don't regret that one bit; same goes for ROM Manager Premium.
I back up the last 3 I used .....but save some apks from earlier ROMS. I used to have all of them but there is no point in having earlier Beta ROMS that were flashed months ago and since improved. They are ususally available online anyway.
This doesntl count the original Stock ROM and 1 click Odin.....Always need that one
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^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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^^this^^
So I can't answer that poll because there is no zero option. I've never had a nandroid backup work.
So my stock Infuse 4G is now Infused 2.1 and I LOVE it. So happy with the change. With that said, what is the number one BEST option to backup the phone in case I do anything stupid? I'm usually very thorough but sometimes I act too quickly.
I'm assuming booting in Recovery and doing the backup there is a good step, is there anything better? Never used Titanium but I see it mentioned a good deal but it seems that you can use it for some things yet not others. I just want a verified safe and secure method.
Also, another question if I may. Since I didn't do any type of backup to begin with, is it safe to assume I can't get back to Froyo at this point? Not that I really want to but I'd like to know either way.
Thanks!
Kadin said:
So my stock Infuse 4G is now Infused 2.1 and I LOVE it. So happy with the change. With that said, what is the number one BEST option to backup the phone in case I do anything stupid? I'm usually very thorough but sometimes I act too quickly.
I'm assuming booting in Recovery and doing the backup there is a good step, is there anything better? Never used Titanium but I see it mentioned a good deal but it seems that you can use it for some things yet not others. I just want a verified safe and secure method.
Also, another question if I may. Since I didn't do any type of backup to begin with, is it safe to assume I can't get back to Froyo at this point? Not that I really want to but I'd like to know either way.
Thanks!
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You can get back to Froyo but not without wiping your data.
Nandroid backups (from Recovery) can restore your phone to an EXACT state - apps, data, and ROM.
TiBu is fairly flexible and, for example, can take all of your installed apps, back them up along with their data, and restore the missing apps when you switch ROMs. (Be EXTREMELY careful restoring system data or data for non-missing apps - 90% of the time it will break.)
I use Call Logs Backup and Restore and SMS Backup and Restore to back up what TiBu can't
Ok so if I simply want to make one big global backup, the Nandroid backup is a good way to go? I'm not too concerned with backing up stuff individually, more of a 'once a month' type of backup so if something disastrous happens, I can get back to a working state.
Also, if I were to do something that maybe caused a boot loop or some other type of bricked scenario, what is the process for restoring the backup? As in, how do you get back into the Recovery option if you can't boot into the OS to begin with?
Kadin said:
Ok so if I simply want to make one big global backup, the Nandroid backup is a good way to go? I'm not too concerned with backing up stuff individually, more of a 'once a month' type of backup so if something disastrous happens, I can get back to a working state.
Also, if I were to do something that maybe caused a boot loop or some other type of bricked scenario, what is the process for restoring the backup? As in, how do you get back into the Recovery option if you can't boot into the OS to begin with?
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For that, you have the Ultimate brick solution though I've never had the need to try it.
I've been switching roms quite a bit lately. For each and everytime I :
(1) Do a Tibu backup of all system and apps
(2) Do a Nandroid backup (either from red cwm or from ROM mgr)
The Tibu is the logical backup while the Nandroid is the physical image backup.
So far, I've gone to Serendipity (too many issues) back to my trusted 1.6 without much effort. The Nandroid restore is initially not 100%, some of my shortcuts like gosms and my unlocker setup was messed up. But then I'll go into Tibu, check to see what apps are missing and just restore those. In my case, after restoring gosms and reboot, all is good. I think the apps that have a system equivalent, will need to be restored individually.
However, that said, I haven't been too successful with Tibu on restoring *all* apps installed under Froyo (Infused 1.6) to GB (S7). This is even with the pro's automated method. This is likely so because those apps don't work well with GB and nothing to do with Tibu.
I've been using Titanium Backup for over a year. Third different phone, and maybe 30 different ROM's. I've never had a problem what so ever. Just remember rule #1, when switching ROM's with TitBU... restore "missing apps and data" ONLY! And you'll be fine.
Jep56 said:
I've been using Titanium Backup for over a year. Third different phone, and maybe 30 different ROM's. I've never had a problem what so ever. Just remember rule #1, when switching ROM's with TitBU... restore "missing apps and data" ONLY! And you'll be fine.
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I second this. Moved between multiple phones, and hard-to-count number of roms, and TiBu was always there to help me out
So right now I'm using CWM to do my nandroid backups. I make one after I make any major updates or changes - call me a worry wort. I also use Titanium Backup.
With doing this, obviously it takes up a bit of room so I offload them to my computer. The issue here is if I do something detrimental and need to restore, I don't know of a way to get the backup files back onto the internal memory since you can't access them via CWM, if that makes sense.
I guess I can simply keep just the latest backup saved on the phone itself but I'm wondering if there's another method that I'm not aware of. Is there a way to get files copied to the internal memory if you can't fully boot into the OS?
Oh and one other question: Does a nandroid backup include every single item? Basically is it a 100% clone of the device or are some thing left out? Basically if I tried a completely different rom and then decided to go back to an entirely different rom, would I simply be able to restore it and be up and running? The last restore I did seems to indicate it does but that was going from different versions of the same rom.
nandroid is a clone of ur system.
diablo009 said:
nandroid is a clone of ur system.
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Ok that's what I figured; read something a bit ago which seemed to say something else.
So if I want to test a few completely different rom setups and make a nandroid backup of each one, I could essentially swap between them whenever I want by simply restoring them and I'll get back to the exact state as I was at the time they were made? Menus and all?
So apparently a kernel change will not get reverted via nandroid. Anything else? Just tried Entropy's daily driver and apparently it's a no go for me. Restored via nandroid and still freezes during 'X' boot animation.
I was running Infusion 1.1 and made sure to reset the VC O/C back to stock and reboot before updating...
Hi,
There are two phones, both are HTC Wildfires believed to be identical (case colour is different though but I don't think it also marks any differences in their guts). On one of them I have once installed a CyanogenMOD firmware without making a backup of the default Sense first, and Cyanogen turned out to be a complete disaster on Wildfire. So I want to get back to Sense on that device, but no backup.
Luckily, I have a backup made with the Clockwork ROM Manager on the second phone which works fine (I tried to restore from it already after installing Cyanogen on that device and everything went flawlessly). Can I copy that backup to the first phone and then restore it to get Sense back on it? Is there a predictable possibility of bricking the phone in the process?
There is a similar discussion on this forum where people agree everything should be fine, but it's about the Nandroid backups, not the Clockwork ones. I wonder if anybody has tried that with Clockwork ROM Manager as well.
Thank you.
Clockworkmod backups and nandroid backups are one and the same, so if it works one way, it should work the other.
Good luck!
Sweet! Thank you.
So before I decided to get back into custom ROMs I made sure to backup my phone using the oneplus switch in the settings. I was running the stock OS at the time. I moved the backup folder to my pc and proceeded to root, twrp, and installing Bliss. I probably should have done my research but it seems the switch app now does not recognize the device as one that can actually restore from a local backup. Only the "start" button is available. So it seems the app is under the assumption that the device is not a Oneplus at all. So is there any way at all to restore that backup or will I have to revert back to stock just to restore the backup, then back it up in like twrp or titan or migrate? I have not been in the scene for a while so please forgive me for the noobish question.