Hi,
There are two phones, both are HTC Wildfires believed to be identical (case colour is different though but I don't think it also marks any differences in their guts). On one of them I have once installed a CyanogenMOD firmware without making a backup of the default Sense first, and Cyanogen turned out to be a complete disaster on Wildfire. So I want to get back to Sense on that device, but no backup.
Luckily, I have a backup made with the Clockwork ROM Manager on the second phone which works fine (I tried to restore from it already after installing Cyanogen on that device and everything went flawlessly). Can I copy that backup to the first phone and then restore it to get Sense back on it? Is there a predictable possibility of bricking the phone in the process?
There is a similar discussion on this forum where people agree everything should be fine, but it's about the Nandroid backups, not the Clockwork ones. I wonder if anybody has tried that with Clockwork ROM Manager as well.
Thank you.
Clockworkmod backups and nandroid backups are one and the same, so if it works one way, it should work the other.
Good luck!
Sweet! Thank you.
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Right now I've got 6 back ups of different ROMs, including a stock ROM. This seems somewhat high to me, but perhaps you guys keep more?
I use to backup every time before I flashed a ROM, and probably had a stockpile of like 4-5 backups. Then I realized those backups are worthless to me. Titanium Backup makes a backup of my apps and all other data is synced to some other system in one form or another.
The only reason I was making backups was because I thought I might need to revert back to one in the case of a bad flash. In reality, if I have a bad flash...the first thing I'm going to do is use Odin to restore to JF6 and try the flash again, NOT restore my Nandroid backup.
Once I had that realization, I saved quite a bit of time in my ROM flashing "procedures" since I didn't have to wait for a Nandroid backup to complete, and then move it off the phone to a desktop.
^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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I've just come to that realization after a bad flash with Axura. The ROM is great, but I tried Nandroiding and doing CWM recovery and neither time did my back up work. This has happened before and I'm sure as hell glad I bought Titanium Backup. I don't regret that one bit; same goes for ROM Manager Premium.
I back up the last 3 I used .....but save some apks from earlier ROMS. I used to have all of them but there is no point in having earlier Beta ROMS that were flashed months ago and since improved. They are ususally available online anyway.
This doesntl count the original Stock ROM and 1 click Odin.....Always need that one
boborone said:
^ what he said
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I think the nandriod backup is mostly best used for phones like the evo. With us, we have roms and builds and kernals and modems from galaxy s devices all over the world. Sometimes clockwork doesn't save all that to the backup, so going stock is the best thing to do before reverting back.
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^^this^^
So I can't answer that poll because there is no zero option. I've never had a nandroid backup work.
When you restore to a nandroid backup, will it also restore any fixes flashed via clockwordmod?
i.e. If I was using a Rom that required the Turbonium Audio fix, did a backup, Then wiped everything, then recovered that nandroid back, would the audio fix be preserved.
I guess I'm just wondering truly how much nandroid backs up, is it literally EVEERTHING on your phone at that time?
I'm almost 99% sure literally everything as I had the same concern a while back about the audio fix when I restored and it was fine.
From my experience, yes, everything is intact from the last time you did a backup.
I actually have 4 different ROM's backed up through CWM. I keep them in my backups so I can restore from CWM anytime I want.
One for CM7
One for CM7 (custom version)
One for RCMix 5.3 (Gingerbread and Sense)
One for MIUI (Gingerbread)
I haven't had any problems restoring any of them from ROM Manager, I just make a backup when I'm finished, deleting the old one and replacing it with the new one. I keep my backups very organized and up to date.
My ROM changes with my mood and they all have pro's and con's...
Hi, I'm LWFB and I'm a flash-aholic.
Hi there,
I rooted my phone, and following the guide, from the recovery screen did a 'NAND' back up before wiping then flashing a new ROM. Am I right in thinking, the 'NAND' backup took a copy/image of my phone, I.e if I wanted to return my phone to it's original state, with the stock ROM from my vendor, I could just do a 'Nand' restore?
Thanks
Absolutely correct. Can be restored either from within Rom Manager or directly from Recovery.
Thanks Mr Gently,
So I'm guessing now that I've installed a custom Rom and set it up how I like, if I wanted to test drive a different ROM, I could do another 'NAND' backup, incase I don't like the new ROM, restore it back to how my phone is as I'm typing this, apps and all?
Precisely! It's a great feature to have, especially as you can have multiple backups and swap between them as you see fit.
Huzzah!A great feature indeed, thanks for replying.
I'm currently on stock rom with it rooted. I wanted to know if i do a back-up of a fresh install of the stock rom and I start to delete files off my phone. If I happen to delete the wrong file, can I restore with the back-up, will those delete files be there again?
If you have a custom recovery installed that supports backups then create a backup with it and delete whatever you are trying to. If **** gets bad then just use the recovery option to restore and you should be back to where you started
Did you do a Nandroid backup, through CWM, or a Titanium type backup ?
A nandroid one will restore the phone to the point in time of the backup. Any changes since it will be lost during restore.
Titanium, or similar, will allow a finer granuality of files/apps/data..
If you play at swapping ROMs and want to revert a nandroid backup is a MUST.
Kernel backup?
This may be a strange question. I just got a T Mobile Sensation yesterday and already rooted, s-off, and did a Nandroid Backup. I previously had a Samsung Captivate and flashed it all the time. This is my second Android device and first HTC device, on the Captivate Nandroid only backed up the ROM without touching the kernel making flashing back and forth between ROMS a PITA. Is the same true with HTC Sensation, will Nandroid also backup the kernel?
Please don't flame me, I used search and found this thread so I am attempting to find answers without starting new threads on topics already discussed.
Thanks.
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If you play at swapping ROMs and want to revert a nandroid backup is a MUST.
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Does that mean that with a Vodafone NL branded phone (no RUU available for download at this moment), I can S-Off, Root and use nandroid backup to create an image I can always return to?
I want to get rid of the VF crapware as well as the quicker updates. In other words: a stock HTC (not vodafone) ROM.
In case of a hardware defect (unrelated to flashing other ROMs*), I want to be able to get back to VF branded, so the guys at HTC (who know what S/N belongs to Vodafone) won't see anything weird.
Thanks
*: If I mess up, I am willing to pay for it. But if it's unrelated, I don't want HTC to be able to start whining about software changes by me.
I'm thinking about switching from cwm to twrp cause my cwm backups are taking up way too much room on my phone. I heard twrp doesn't use as much space.
My question is will my backups made in cwm work with twrp or do I need to make new ones. I have the stock TW backup from when I first rooted that is like to keep.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to make new ones. Just the fact that TWRP's are smaller than CWM's would lead me to believe they use a whole different system of backing up.
I've only ever used CWM tho, so I dunno, may be possible. Stranger things than that have happened.
I was able to do a few searches and confirmed they are different. No biggie. I never got back to my stock one anyways. I can always Odin if things **** the bed!!
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What I did was load my stock backup with CWM, then flashed TWRP and made a backup. Then I flashed CWM again and loaded my most recent backup (or any other backups you want) followed by flashing TWRP and making another backup. Its extra steps, but doing so allows you to bring your old backups to TWRP.
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What I did was load my stock backup with CWM, then flashed TWRP and made a backup. Then I flashed CWM again and loaded my most recent backup (or any other backups you want) followed by flashing TWRP and making another backup. Its extra steps, but doing so allows you to bring your old backups to TWRP.
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+1. Only way to do it regardless of device. Just use EZ-Recovery and GooManager to swap recoveries back and forth.
Thanks for the replies. I ended up installing twrp, made a backup on my external SD and then copies it onto my PC in case something should happen. Deleted all my cwm files and freed up like 3.5 GB of storage!!
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Differences?
I'm thinking about switching too. I loved CMW and Rom manager for my Droid Inc. but they don't have any rom updates any more. I'm not sorry I bought the pro app at the time but feel like it's pretty useless now.
I'm curious what are the advantages, especially with the vzw gs3, with using TWRP. Are there any reasons not to switch?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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I'm thinking about switching too. I loved CMW and Rom manager for my Droid Inc. but they don't have any rom updates any more. I'm not sorry I bought the pro app at the time but feel like it's pretty useless now.
I'm curious what are the advantages, especially with the vzw gs3, with using TWRP. Are there any reasons not to switch?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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I used CWM and Rom Manager with my Droid X, but now I use TWRP with my S3. The differences feel minimal, to me at least, and navigation and UI were very easy to pick up coming from CWM. The only problem I have had with TWRP is that my backups get automatically named with a date in the 1970s.... I think there is a fix for this now, however.
You mean CWM names them with the wrong date. TWRP you can choose your name.
If you dont opt to name it yourself and let it use a default name, it will still have the improper date like in CWM.