[Q] Samsung Smart TV - is it android/bada based? - General Questions and Answers

I've recently got Samsung Smart TV with Smart Hub application. It has fully functioning browser (with flash!) and Apps Market.
I'm wondering if anyone knows, what's inside that TV. I've read it's linux, but I'm wondering if its Android or Bada based.

Nah I doubt that, android isn't aimed for tv and google has their "google tv" os already so think that would be a bit conflicting.
Samsung probably have some own thing running on them.

Nionor said:
Nah I doubt that, android isn't aimed for tv and google has their "google tv" os already so think that would be a bit conflicting.
Samsung probably have some own thing running on them.
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Well, Bada is "own thing", that's why I'm wondering.

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Default Market

I'm assuming everyone else's Gtab had some handango crap market installed by defualt. What on earth was Viewsonic's idea there? Is there a reason they didn't install the normal full market or at least have an option to use it?
And yes, I know I can get a fully functioning market. I've got it on TnT Lite 4.1.0
ViewSonic does NOT have the option to use the normal market.
At this time, Google does not officially allow the market on tablets. The way the market is supposed to work is that it allows each individual device access only to those applications that are compatible with it. Google says the current implementations of Android were never designed to run on tablets and therefore won't give the tablets market access. Once Google releases Android 3 (Honeycomb) which is designed specifically for tablets it is expected that tablets will then have official access to the market or a brand new market designed specifically for tablets.
Market
Google has to license a device to use the Market. For whatever legal/business reasons, Google has only licensed one or two currently available tablets like the Galaxy Tablet. The market fix here is unofficial and unapproved.
Is there a way to fool the market into thinking this is a galaxy tab?
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Essentially, it works like this. Android is Open Source but Google Apps (Gmail, Maps, Market, etc.) are not. Anyone can use Android on their device for free, but to use Google Apps they must license them from Google. Google is concerned about a phone version of Android being used for tablets, so they refuse to license Google Apps to tablet makers until 3.0 comes out. Galaxy Tab is a special case and I suspect it was done under protest, but perhaps Google was willing to use Samsung's device to test the market's readiness for an official Google tablet.
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Stupid on google's part IMO. Open should be open, 100%. I do realize they have to deal with the phone nazis though, so I suppose I'm not that surprised.
Regardless, I'm loving my Gtab so far. I'm hoping to eventually get Debian running on it if the boot process is open enough, which it seems to be.
I suppose, but at the end of the day they have so little control over Android, which is their brand. I sometimes which they had more. Especially when I see how few pure Android devices there are.
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Is it safe to use non compatible applications?

I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
skyhigh73 said:
I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
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No, that just means they may not run smoothly. You could have issues with the way they display, they might force close, or they may run fine. You never know.
If they are jot compatible how did you download them from Google? Usually they will not download 1f they are not compatible.
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Nah, it won't hurt anything. On Android it's called sideloading and people do it on pretty much every device.
There may be some rare exceptions, but basically if it installs and runs from an apk, then you're good to go. It won't damage anything.
A lot of things are labeled "incompatible" on purpose for reasons other than being technically unable to run on the device. (Like for example Google and Samsung want to keep their launcher and Milk music only running on certain devices thar they benefit from so everything else is flagged as incompatible. Also it may be that devs haven't optimized for certain devices and so don't want it running on them and then get low ratings for devices they don't support.
REHolt218 said:
No, that just means they may not run smoothly. You could have issues with the way they display, they might force close, or they may run fine. You never know.
If they are jot compatible how did you download them from Google? Usually they will not download 1f they are not compatible.
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Almost all applications either paid/free or compatible/incompatible are available outside google play, just google it and download it.
Which version of ms office are you using and where did you find the apk, link please, I'm just interested in word,
skyhigh73 said:
I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
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nychotxxx said:
Which version of ms office are you using and where did you find the apk, link please, I'm just interested in word,
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I am using version 1.1.0....
U can make a google search and you will find a lot of downloadable links...
The only ones that are truly incompatable are apps that require specific hardware features that aren't physically present in an incompatible device.
The best place I've found to get apps outside of Google play is Aptoide. Yes, there are plenty of crappy porn apps and repos full of pirated ones , but the default store, and many others have any legitimate free app you could want, in any past or present version you could want. It has adult content filtering turned on by default as well. The Aptoide app also has a play store-like update tab and auto-update feature, too. A recent update made huge improvements to the UI, which closely mimics the style of Google play. Just make sure to skim over feedback to check for issues, and avoid app versions that are higher than they should be.
They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
ShadowLea said:
They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
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You are right..
For example BBM is working fine in Note Pro and Note 2014 but in a bad resolution.
ShadowLea said:
They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
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Oh man, that was just the tip of the iceberg with the TF700T. Mine still fights like a champ, but with the hardware specs it had for the time of its release, it should have gotten much more attention. Development was slow and scarce, and the stock firmware was riddled with issues and bugs. I typically go for whatever device has the best, newest hardware, and it stays seems like the second and third place devices get all the attention and accommodation. Going through it with the galaxy note pro 12.2 as we speak. I'm working on building a working cm 11 ROM for it in my spare time. All its had for weeks is twrp recovery. I just wish I had more time.
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Android Wear + iOS app

Hey guys,
If Apple will not release iWatch this year, I'll buy Moto 360. But I saw that Android Wear is not working with iOS. So after googling information and looking into THIS thread I came up with an idea.
We have Facebook API ( and another ones, why not ), what if try to make application for Android Wear and iOS ( I am not talking about publishing it into App Store ) which syncs with Android Wear. Umm, I think it is possible, why not. What are your suggestions?
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Hey guys,
If Apple will not release iWatch this year, I'll buy Moto 360. But I saw that Android Wear is not working with iOS. So after googling information and looking into THIS thread I came up with an idea.
We have Facebook API ( and another ones, why not ), what if try to make application for Android Wear and iOS ( I am not talking about publishing it into App Store ) which syncs with Android Wear. Umm, I think it is possible, why not. What are your suggestions?
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Well, during a certain time (maybe it's still the case), Android phone weren't able to connect by bluetooth to an Iphone to make any file transfert, etc.
Just because Apple put security on the bluetooth to avoid non IOS devices to work with them.
So, even if Google wanted to make Android wear compatible with IOS, I'm sure that Apple wouldn't allow them to do it.
Charlus97 said:
Well, during a certain time (maybe it's still the case), Android phone weren't able to connect by bluetooth to an Iphone to make any file transfert, etc.
Just because Apple put security on the bluetooth to avoid non IOS devices to work with them.
So, even if Google wanted to make Android wear compatible with IOS, I'm sure that Apple wouldn't allow them to do it.
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Perhaps not officially, but the community could absolutely develop something like this. Hell they already did it for the galaxy gear. Just standard notifications would be fine for me.
mabye
If the Google and apple can merge into one company one day,it may be come ture
September a pair of Meizu MX4 official unleash
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The ignorance lol, yeah because Apple has never ever supported anything google ever before
Charlus97 said:
So, even if Google wanted to make Android wear compatible with IOS, I'm sure that Apple wouldn't allow them to do it.
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Actually, Google has refused to open the Wear protocol, which puts them in the at least as evil as Apple camp.
javispedro said:
Actually, Google has refused to open the Wear protocol, which puts them in the at least as evil as Apple camp.
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Isn't Android wear open source like Android is ? Or this protecol is "secured" in the play store services (that is closed source) ?
But yea, if they refused to open the Wear protocol, they are in the "bad" camp too. :/
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Isn't Android wear open source like Android is ? Or this protecol is "secured" in the play store services (that is closed source) ?
But yea, if they refused to open the Wear protocol, they are in the "bad" camp too. :/
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Play services. And the only parts of Wear I've seen opened is the kernel (which they're forced to open) and core stuff (which is the same as in other androids). Nothing remotely wear specific such nor user facing programs.
Not a good moment to be looking down at Apple.

Android TV Launcher APK

Now that Google has released the Android TV launcher onto the play store i'm curious to try and install this APK on my LG Google TV and see how it runs. Anyone know where I can find the APK?? Thanks.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/12/18/google-adds-android-tv-launcher-play-store/
Maybe soon on apkmirror.com!
yeah i would like to get this on my Minix Neo X7 TV box
Cant wait for this to get ported to other devices. Beelink R89 please!
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Can someone who is rooted download the APK and upload please??
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajrsbq04s83te96/LeanbackLauncher.apk
This wasn't uploaded by me, but somebody posted the APK
Doesn't seem to work on my CM11 phone, haven't had the chance to try it on my Amlogic MXIII TV box yet.
mbeltoft said:
yeah i would like to get this on my Minix Neo X7 TV box
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It will not work with otner devices exept nexus box and i also think that it is too pity that it works only with some devices, i think they are mistaken with this decision.
I use Handy Smart TV Launcher (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.handysmart.android.launcher&hl=en)with its’ remote control app for my tv box and i ‘m sure that it will be the main rival for this new launcher from Google. Morover it works with a lot of mobile devices and tv-boxes and have intuitive remote control app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/handy-smart-tv-launcher-remote-control-t2975916
Read more: http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12...s-now-available-on-google-play/#ixzz3MLlAiHOy
I've tried to install it on xtreamer multi-console but the file is not compatible.
luigi
pijo1971 said:
I've tried to install it on xtreamer multi-console but the file is not compatible.
luigi
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What console exactly? Can you list your specs, We don't test any sonsoles yet as our apps optimized for tv-boxes. We cannot guarantee that apps will work appropriate on all devices.
Kinda surprised that nobody has been successful in hacking this to work on regular old android builds. Considering the Google play launcher from lollipop was ported to older versions of android before the play store version was updated I'd think it would be technically possible at least... Too bad I don't have the knowledge to do it myself.
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What console exactly? Can you list your specs, We don't test any sonsoles yet as our apps optimized for tv-boxes. We cannot guarantee that apps will work appropriate on all devices.
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That is the name of the console. Xtreamer Multi-console. You can check the info here http://www.xtreamer.net/MultiConsole/
Is it possible to make it work on Xiaomi Mi Box Pro?
hmm
I have it / installed running (laidbacklauncher) whatever that drop box apk was.. it installs.. and runs.. but if you click the voice seach, it crashes, and it looks like its constantly loading (recommendations) but it deffinately loaded.
(Note 2 I317m - model phone)
But i changed a setting in the system via build.prop editor changing the brand of my device to nexus where it before was T0lte (custom firmware for note 2)
i never attempted to install it prior so i dont know if it will load or not. going to see if the play store detects my phone as a nexus and allows the apk download.. (fingers crossed)

Android TV stick without Google account

Hey
Is there a Android TV stick without Google account? Maybe some Chinese stuff? What buying options do I have If I not wish to create a Google account.
Mary1989 said:
Hey
Is there a Android TV stick without Google account? Maybe some Chinese stuff? What buying options do I have If I not wish to create a Google account.
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Just buy amlogic device and don't use Gapps. Never tried it but micro-g would probably work as a Gapps replacement for atv devices.
I think that all TV that does not have an Android system is free to force you to have a google account
@Mary1989 this article has your answer (albeit late).
speed&vodka said:
@Mary1989 this article has your answer (albeit late).
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From link:
How To Use Android TV Box Without Your Google Account
Long story short, you can’t use an Android TV box without a Google account. There used to be loopholes for getting around this, but with each update to their operating system Android has been closing those loopholes and it is now impossible.
Is this true?

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