Default Market - G Tablet General

I'm assuming everyone else's Gtab had some handango crap market installed by defualt. What on earth was Viewsonic's idea there? Is there a reason they didn't install the normal full market or at least have an option to use it?
And yes, I know I can get a fully functioning market. I've got it on TnT Lite 4.1.0

ViewSonic does NOT have the option to use the normal market.
At this time, Google does not officially allow the market on tablets. The way the market is supposed to work is that it allows each individual device access only to those applications that are compatible with it. Google says the current implementations of Android were never designed to run on tablets and therefore won't give the tablets market access. Once Google releases Android 3 (Honeycomb) which is designed specifically for tablets it is expected that tablets will then have official access to the market or a brand new market designed specifically for tablets.

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Google has to license a device to use the Market. For whatever legal/business reasons, Google has only licensed one or two currently available tablets like the Galaxy Tablet. The market fix here is unofficial and unapproved.

Is there a way to fool the market into thinking this is a galaxy tab?
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Essentially, it works like this. Android is Open Source but Google Apps (Gmail, Maps, Market, etc.) are not. Anyone can use Android on their device for free, but to use Google Apps they must license them from Google. Google is concerned about a phone version of Android being used for tablets, so they refuse to license Google Apps to tablet makers until 3.0 comes out. Galaxy Tab is a special case and I suspect it was done under protest, but perhaps Google was willing to use Samsung's device to test the market's readiness for an official Google tablet.
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Stupid on google's part IMO. Open should be open, 100%. I do realize they have to deal with the phone nazis though, so I suppose I'm not that surprised.
Regardless, I'm loving my Gtab so far. I'm hoping to eventually get Debian running on it if the boot process is open enough, which it seems to be.

I suppose, but at the end of the day they have so little control over Android, which is their brand. I sometimes which they had more. Especially when I see how few pure Android devices there are.
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Where can i download the google Android market?

Where can i download the Android market?
I have got a new epad but it does not have
android market. so where or how can i download the lastest
original google android market?
many thz
Google vending.apk You must have root though. You can either place it in the system apps with root explorer or push it to the system apps with adb
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Thz I will find this apk in xda
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Google vending.apk You must have root though. You can either place it in the system apps with root explorer or push it to the system apps with adb
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this method do not wrok,i am sorry
my epad cannot install market><
or i cannot run
How bout rooting and flashing gapps?
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I think this question has been asked many times before. I suffer the same problem, so I wonder if there is another way of installing Android market apps on a phone without android. For example, using a QR code scanner? Would that work from a device that doesn't have Android market?
It's an android application, so to use on a non-android phone you'd have to port it.
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android software packages cannot run on non-android devices, no offence but we know this.
Us users of devices that have an android version without Android market, want to have android market on that device.
I just tried using a QR code scanner on my motorola XT701 (which from the factory does not have android market), and it failed to install, because it wants android market presumably.
So here goes again: does someone know of a way to access android market apps on an android device that does not have android market?
Alternatively, can someone explain why Google does not make Android Market available? I mean, it's in their own best interests isn't it? I mean, Google Android is an Opens Source platform, so the app should be available to all android users, right? Or am I thinking to normal here?
For your phone or tablet to have access to Android Market and the rest of the Google apps, it has to be approved by Google. Android itself is free to everyone, but not those apps.
many thz everyone
it can be loaded but crashed in loading terms and argeement scan.
So how about flashing it to another rom or kernal?
For phones flashing it with a new ROM is possible, most android phones tend to have a ROM availale somewhere. However, for those Chinese made tablets, many donot have Market installed. I happen to have one I bought in May, and it does have Android Market, but so far many others do not, even proper brand ones, like Archos, don't have Market, which is sad.
So for chinese tablets, I guess you just hav eto search until you find one that has teh market pre-installed. Probably you'd have to order from HK, rather than mainland china (they are quite arsy, even about google maps. Infact, if you check google maps in China, you wil find the satellite images have been shifted compared to the map....)

How can we get Google to develop a Honeycomb Google Voice app?

One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
I LOVE Gvoice. Google has said they are working on it. I don't know what is taking so long, but if you search the forums you can find a newer modded apk that works with honeycomb.
I'm sure the official app for 3.x will be sick.
You don't even need a modded apk it works out of box. I just set it top sync every five minutes and it works like a champ
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One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
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I'm pretty sure google has already stated that they're working on it. But, on a side note, I'm using the hacked version of Google Voice and it's not ancient / outdated afaik. If anything, there may have been one new release since the version I'm running.
I would definitely support a HC Google Voice version, I'm just saying they're *supposedly* already working on it
Yup, while waiting for Google it doesn't hurt to use the "hacked". The "hacked" I'm using is the latest version, at least for my N1 and TF both running (0.4.2.24)
The HC version better be great to make us wait this long. With an awesome UI. Probably split-screen like the Mail app.

[Q] Are tons of titles not available in your market?

Often when I buy or install an app for my phone I see that the same app is not available for my tablet. If it was just few things I wouldn't care, but it seems disproportionately high.
Is my market screwed up or does everyone have that?
If it is everyone, what gives? I can see some games limiting resolution for performance reasons but there are a lot of other apps I see prohibited that don't make sense.
I know, it's highly annoying. Most developers haven't updated their list of compatible devices in months, except to add the S3. It's a simple thing to do, but they just don't care. I have a ton of supposed 'not compatible' apps that run just fine, but can't be installed through the market because they're too lazy to change their list of devices. Morons...
You can sideload most apps and games. (Install on phone and copy the data to your tablet manually. The process is explained on the forum here somewhere.)
They're forcing us to consider alternate methods of acquiring the apps, especially when you don't have a second Android device. (like me..) We don't want to download, but they're not exactly giving us much of a choice... >.<
I noticed that most EA games not available. Sucks because I bought Dead space and Mass effect on phone and they are great games but wanted to play on a big screen.
Also Flipboard I use. I did sideload it and its working quite well.Some problems occur but still very usable.
I don't think it is just the whole updating the compatibility list, with many apps - It's b/c there are things that simply do not work on tablets for whatever reason, and so they ahve not been made to show compatibility for tablets.
I have found at least 15-20 apps from my BIONIC that I cannot install on my tablet, one of them being the Amazon App Store - which sucks b/c I got OpenOffice Pro free through Amazon and now cannot install it on my tablet without sideloading it.

Is it safe to use non compatible applications?

I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
skyhigh73 said:
I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
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No, that just means they may not run smoothly. You could have issues with the way they display, they might force close, or they may run fine. You never know.
If they are jot compatible how did you download them from Google? Usually they will not download 1f they are not compatible.
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Nah, it won't hurt anything. On Android it's called sideloading and people do it on pretty much every device.
There may be some rare exceptions, but basically if it installs and runs from an apk, then you're good to go. It won't damage anything.
A lot of things are labeled "incompatible" on purpose for reasons other than being technically unable to run on the device. (Like for example Google and Samsung want to keep their launcher and Milk music only running on certain devices thar they benefit from so everything else is flagged as incompatible. Also it may be that devs haven't optimized for certain devices and so don't want it running on them and then get low ratings for devices they don't support.
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No, that just means they may not run smoothly. You could have issues with the way they display, they might force close, or they may run fine. You never know.
If they are jot compatible how did you download them from Google? Usually they will not download 1f they are not compatible.
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Almost all applications either paid/free or compatible/incompatible are available outside google play, just google it and download it.
Which version of ms office are you using and where did you find the apk, link please, I'm just interested in word,
skyhigh73 said:
I am using non compatible application in my P-901, like BBM, Microsoft office, Google Launcher, Samsung Milk, Lab values ..etc
I have downloaded them using google , installed them and they are running smoothly. I know they are not compatible with the device and they are not in the play store. My device is not rooted.
Are they harmful to the software/hardware because they are not compatible?
I just want to check that and if they are harmful I will un-install them immediately.
Thanks...
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nychotxxx said:
Which version of ms office are you using and where did you find the apk, link please, I'm just interested in word,
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I am using version 1.1.0....
U can make a google search and you will find a lot of downloadable links...
The only ones that are truly incompatable are apps that require specific hardware features that aren't physically present in an incompatible device.
The best place I've found to get apps outside of Google play is Aptoide. Yes, there are plenty of crappy porn apps and repos full of pirated ones , but the default store, and many others have any legitimate free app you could want, in any past or present version you could want. It has adult content filtering turned on by default as well. The Aptoide app also has a play store-like update tab and auto-update feature, too. A recent update made huge improvements to the UI, which closely mimics the style of Google play. Just make sure to skim over feedback to check for issues, and avoid app versions that are higher than they should be.
They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
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They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
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You are right..
For example BBM is working fine in Note Pro and Note 2014 but in a bad resolution.
ShadowLea said:
They're all incompatible for one very simple reason: The developers haven't enabled the QHD resolution in Google play. It's really that simple and that stupid.
I had this same rubbish for almost a year with the TF700T, it was the only and first device with 1920x1200 at that time, and nearly évery app was incompatible.
Sideloading them always worked perfectly well, no issues.
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Oh man, that was just the tip of the iceberg with the TF700T. Mine still fights like a champ, but with the hardware specs it had for the time of its release, it should have gotten much more attention. Development was slow and scarce, and the stock firmware was riddled with issues and bugs. I typically go for whatever device has the best, newest hardware, and it stays seems like the second and third place devices get all the attention and accommodation. Going through it with the galaxy note pro 12.2 as we speak. I'm working on building a working cm 11 ROM for it in my spare time. All its had for weeks is twrp recovery. I just wish I had more time.
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What is the best tablet for the largest app compatibility count for Google Play?

I want a decently priced tablet that has the least amount of incompatible apps so I can avoid the frustrations of not being able to use certain apps due to being listed as incompatible with the device.
I am willing to pay amounts from really cheap $20 and up to $100 or so as max for specifically a tablet,NOT a phone.
A tablet like this may also have to be capable of using Android O so that apps under that OS are also listed.
I am sick of running into the problem of not being able to use an app from Google Play to the point where side-loading doesn't solve the issue for stuff like paid apps and other features restricted to the origin device used to install the app.
This thread could help others curious about this concept,I wished Google would have statistics of the device with the most apps available to it to save the trouble.

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