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I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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the docks are interchangeable but like you said you gotta give up some stuff. Also the prime dock doesnt fit as neately
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the docks are interchangeable but like you said you gotta give up some stuff. Also the prime dock doesnt fit as neately
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Well since I bought the dock with the tab, I could easily use the refund money for the tf300 dock to buy the infinity dock, but I would need that refund money too buy the infinity. The price of the full infinity and dock package is too much for this starving college student.
i dont understand why youre switching...the only real advantage youre getting is HD screen. the rest of the specs are negligeable
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i dont understand why youre switching...the only real advantage youre getting is HD screen. the rest of the specs are negligeable
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"Only"? In my opinion the display is one of the most important things in a tablet. Or a phone for a that matter.
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I'm still within my 30 days for my tf300, and I have to return it because of a piece of dust stuck under the display glass. I also bought the tf300 dock and find it quite useful. Im thinking of going for the tf700. But If I get the TF700, I dont think i'll be able to afford the dock. Has anyone hear tried both tabs and know if the difference is worth sacrificing the dock?
The pixelated look of the tf300 screen does kinda bother me a little.
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First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had.
More on-topic: the keyboards are essentially the same as far as ergonomics go, so in that respect, so it'd be a matter of asking yourself if you'd miss the keyboard of the TF300 if I broke in in two on my knee at this very moment. If not, you won't miss it on the TF700. (I would, as I like the hard keyboard very much.)
As far as the screen is concerned: it's wonderful. Can;t really say anything more than that; you will absolutely notice a difference.
I cannot imagine where the reviewers who said there is not a noticeable difference between 1280x7.. and 1900x1200 gathered that from -- have they actually compared even the desktops? Sheesh.
I am definately one for high resolutions. I am trying my tf300 out without the dock, and I can get used to it. It is harder though and I can't type as much as if I had a hard keyboard.
Since a tablet is basically a touchscreen connected to an SoC package, the higher resolution does justify paying more for the pad itself.
The other thing to take into consideration is the boatloader. I know it seems weird to make that a deciding factor, but you do pay a lot for it and its a pretty serious device, so you'd expect an unlockable bootloader to be standard. (that and since I'm a CompE student, tampering is definately on my last of things to do with the device). ASUS hasn't released one yet for this tab. (I'm sure they will though)
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I am definately one for high resolutions. I am trying my tf300 out without the dock, and I can get used to it. It is harder though and I can't type as much as if I had a hard keyboard.
Since a tablet is basically a touchscreen connected to an SoC package, the higher resolution does justify paying more for the pad itself.
The other thing to take into consideration is the boatloader. I know it seems weird to make that a deciding factor, but you do pay a lot for it and its a pretty serious device, so you'd expect an unlockable bootloader to be standard. (that and since I'm a CompE student, tampering is definately on my last of things to do with the device). ASUS hasn't released one yet for this tab. (I'm sure they will though)
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Well, I think I'd go for the TF700, then, if I'd were you. The resolution indeed is superb, and the unlocked bootloader undoubtedly will be available in a few weeks. And as I said, I love the keyboard, though I wouldn't fancy typing longer reports or essays on it -- but that time lies in my (to my feeling already somewhat distant) past. ; )
Well after trying my tf300 for a while without the keyboard dock, I snapped them back together, and the difference is night and day. I have to choose between one great feature or the other, but not both. At least with the TF700 I can always get the dock later. Upgrading the screen is not quite as easy.
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First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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>2012
>not buying the most high end of high end tablets
i shiggy diggy
JK, tf700 is best for movies, tf300 is good for anything else.
Well I took the plunge, there's a tf700 in shipment somewhere with my name on it. In just one week, it will be all mine.
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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Is there a return policy for your dock? If so, you can probably just exchange it for the correct one.
I'd exchange it for insurance reasons.
I'm just thinking if something dock related went wrong with your (very expensive top of the line) tablet, and you were using the wrong dock, you warranty would be void, and you would be out of luck.
Plus the correct dock would look and fit better.
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MartyHulskemper said:
First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had
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hmmmm just got my tf700t and accidentally ordered a 300 keyboard dock.....seems to be just ducky so far....incompatible how?
more battery?....buttons?
I'll admit there is some play in the hinge system, but it stays where you put it....please advise
Chas
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Well, if it fits.... it... .errrmm.... fits.
All kidding aside, I do think the battery in the TF201/700 dock is more powerful, but I'd have to look that one up to be sure. I believe the connectors are essentially the same, although the placement might be off a bit -- since that didn't stop you from docking the tablet, I wouldn't mind too much. The Prime's dock is compatible with recent firmware, even if slightly off-color, but I do not know what the specific reasoning was behind the TF300's not being compatible (except for the thickness of the tablet, and the resulting lack of "hinge fit").
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MartyHulskemper said:
First things first: you are right in that the TF300 dock IS NOT compatible with the TF700 tablet! Do not heed the other poster telling you so, you will be in trouble. It was clear you knew that, but I thought I'd chime in on behalf of the less informed visiting this thread with the same question you had.
More on-topic: the keyboards are essentially the same as far as ergonomics go, so in that respect, so it'd be a matter of asking yourself if you'd miss the keyboard of the TF300 if I broke in in two on my knee at this very moment. If not, you won't miss it on the TF700. (I would, as I like the hard keyboard very much.)
As far as the screen is concerned: it's wonderful. Can;t really say anything more than that; you will absolutely notice a difference.
I cannot imagine where the reviewers who said there is not a noticeable difference between 1280x7.. and 1900x1200 gathered that from -- have they actually compared even the desktops? Sheesh.
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WHAT TROUBLE? tf300 dock works just fine on tf700.- I have tf300 and tf700. So here is the pix
Please don't tell people something what you did not even try
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WHAT TROUBLE? tf300 dock works just fine on tf700.- I have tf300 and tf700. So here is the pix
Please don't tell people something what you did not even try
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THANK YOU. My wife dropped her Prime so I'm going to hand her down my TF300 but I couldn't stand the though of loosing my keyboard as I've grown quite accustomed to it when traveling. I was on the fence and not having to drop another $150 on the dock is the deciding factor. TF700 here I come.
PS Anyone looking to buy a 201 with a cracked screen. Dig works....
I tried my tf700 in a tf300 dock. It works but the fit is terrible. The tf300 is thicker than the tf700. I would reccomend selling your tf300 dock on ebay, and buying a prime or infinity dock with the money.
Hi,
I got a tf700t and i bought a tf300t dock as there were no other docks and it looked asit wworkks. The dock fits ok (slightly loose) , and the keyboard works ok and is detected by the tablet as (DOCK EC20N 0207). But when docked the dock does not seem to charge the tablet. The tablet battry depleets andthe taab turns off while the dock reminsat 97% charge.
Anybody else having this? Or is my doock broken?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vQrzK-TaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Hi ALL,
This post is to address the confusion regarding the difference between the TF-201 only doc and the TF-700 Infinity dock that was released at the same time as the Infinity that I like many orderd the package on release day, (paying full MSRP for both, some paid more, where TF-201 doc is available easily $50-$60 cheaper, hence the importance of figuring out the distinction). The common theory is there is no real difference... that I shared once I received my TF-700 dock and saw no external differences other than a few stickers, and no differences what so ever in capability. There was a reported reduction in battery capacity in the TF-700 dock and change in battery position to distribute weight more effectively to prevent tip overs, but all indications (model number on box, in BIOS, etc.) indicate that this isn't true, that we all received repackaged TF-201 docks. Given the dramatic price difference (50% more in price), and the fact that I have been a loyal Asus customer for years, if Asus is going downhill and resorting to blatant misleading of their customers just to make a buck, IMO I can no longer trust anything that company says, and to me, beyond all else, trust is the most important when selecting your supplier of choice.
Their honesty regarding product issues, their innovation, and fantastic value (in most cases) for Asus products will be missed, but there are other great choices out there (and cheaper too), so do not despair. In the last month alone, even before the first reviews hit the inet (either professional or consumer) I have purchased an Asus Z77 Premium motherboard (their TOTL 1155 Z77 motherboard, and NOT CHEAP). I also got their GTX670 Direct CUII TOP video card (TOP version supposedly means it has the best binned video ships of all of the 670s for better over clocks and over all stability), but based on the cumulative results across then the inet on the comparisons between the standard Direct DUII and the TOP version I regularly see the normal version doing better (sometimes significantly) than the TOP versions, sometimes not, it basically looks like a TOP is no different than a standard model. These tests are controlled and documented tests, with one variable, which card is used in the test bed, everything else was done properly. In other words, I believe now that I payed an extra $30 for three letter printed on a box that mean nothing(MINE OVERCLOCKS HORRIBLY BTW), and overclocking is what paying the extra $30 for the TOP versions is FOR, they even given you an app overclock by pushing a button in their auto-oveclock app, so it is certainly a "supported and encouraged" practice. I bring this other example up because I am thinking that this dock thing is not an isolated incident. I am depressed to loose a friend/hardware partner where the only benefit is increasing the margin just a tiny bit. I have also just purchased the ASUS Zenbook Prime UX31A-DB51 13.3-Inch Ultrabook (SSD, ULV i-5, over a grand for that), and now I am wondering what I got into on that front. Now on to the proof...
All of the ones on the left in the SxS's are the TF-700s, (you can tell in the TF 700 because its stickers is missing the claim of 18hr battery life on the sticker on the palm rest). For the close ups, with only one dock, the pic is labeled with which doc it is.
which one is the tf201 and tf700 docks?
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Fixed, the TF-700 is always the one of the left when disassembled and side by side, I forgot tot annotate the pics, I am TIRED .
P.S. Sad when you cannot even tell them apart, Asus really pulled a fast one IMO.
Well I guess it's nice to see that they both have a 2940 mAh battery...
And the circuit board of TF700 dock, just below the wide black ribbon cable, says "TF201 docking"...
I really want to know what Asus have to say about these findings. I wonder how Asus will try and dig themselves out of this one...
So moral of the story is to get the Primes dock? I'm thinking about buying a dock. Whats the point in spending $60 extra for the same thing? I can use that towards school! And beverages!!!
The Country Product Manager ASUS Romania & Bulgaria has sent me an email on July:
"Both docking stations, for TF201 and TF700, are identical, with same battery 2940mAh(22Wh)"
So, is official, not a new discovery!
On the other side, Asus write on the official website of TF700, a different thing:
Battery: 19.5Wh + (The Eee Pad Transformer Prime mobile dock is NOT compatible with Transformer Pad Infinity)
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So moral of the story is to get the Primes dock? I'm thinking about buying a dock. Whats the point in spending $60 extra for the same thing? I can use that towards school! And beverages!!!
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Yep! Buy the TF201 dock at a discount while you can because they are identical. My TF700 dock is going back. I might send it all back and boycott Asus because of their shady business practices but I am undecided at this point because my second choice at this point is an iPad 3 but they do not support mouse functionality as far as I know and that's almost a deal killer for me.
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Yep! Buy the TF201 dock at a discount while you can because they are identical. My TF700 dock is going back. I might send it all back and boycott Asus because of their shady business practices but I am undecided at this point because my second choice at this point is an iPad 3 but they do not support mouse functionality as far as I know and that's almost a deal killer for me.
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Agreed, i got the 201 dock up the street at Best buy for $99 ($105 after tax). Probably will be able to find it cheaper online, but in my case I had an $80 BB gift card burning a hole in my wallet, and I rarely shop there, so it was a match made in heaven . My other one is going back as well.
Guys guys guys. These ARE NOT identical. The difference is rather noticable too. If you all would stop ranting and raving about being ripped off for just a moment you would see that one is a small "check" big "2" while the other is a big "check" small... well a zero or something, hard to tell. This is a clear performance edge over whichever is supposed to be the older one.
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That bolded statement alone makes me think you have no clue what you are talking about. From what I have been reading, there are no performance issues using the Primes (that would be your dubbed "older one") dock with the Infinity. It works perfectly well. And going through those pictures, I can see no visual difference between the docks. The Infinity's battery is supposed to be less but you can see clearly in the pictures that the batteries are the exact same minus the printing.
Plus your 'proof' makes no sense but that is probably because I don't have either dock.
Just my honest opinion.
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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Gotcha. Sorry Chief
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asuseeepad .net/transformer-keyboard. php
Just connect the above fragments, I'm not able to post external links yet.
the_punkreas2003 said:
asuseeepad .net/transformer-keyboard. php
Just connect the above fragments, I'm not able to post external links yet.
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Thanks, very nice page and history. I have to ask, can someone point me to a URL to teach me how to take pics like that specifically ? I have a Canon S95, T3i with an excellent Macro lense, SX230, and other nice cameras which certainly would have been clearer, but nothing like what the page you linked would look like (mainly how they make it look like they took the pics in white space. I was using my Galaxy IIs to take the pics of my work last night, time was of the essence given it was really late, I was also working at the same time, and had an early AM (that I missed cos I overslept :/).
Not asking for a full blown photography page to tell me how to check and adjust WB and all of that, just specifically how they take the pics so the hardware just seems to be floating in white... I don't see ANY edges at all to indicate PSing. Do they just have it on a stand perhaps with a perfectly white back ground or something? I will update my pics with much better ones soon, but I would LOVE to be able to post pics like that website .
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I detected a hint of sarcasm in Chief's post.
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Ha, yea just a little sarcasm was meant to be delivered there. No biggie, I'm a bit of an asshat at times so if not for this I'm sure I deserve it for something else.
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.lifeisaprayer .com /articles /photography /keying-out-backgrounds-photoshop
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Again, connect the fragments )
.lifeisaprayer .com /articles /photography /keying-out-backgrounds-photoshop
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AWESOME, thanks!!
Very sneaky Asus... Glad I got the TF201 dock at best buy for $99, I almost waited for the 700 dock, that woulda been a waste...
Thanks for the images and review.
I have been on the market for an Android 10 inch tablet for close to a year. I have watching several of the devices that have come on the market there. I like the iPad for some things but I hate the proprietary nature and many other numerous issues to list.
Back to my original question though
I have been following reviews online and this is probably the 3rd or 4th time that I have seen reviews on Amazon.com or other sites that the ASUS TF700 has some "build quality issues" they have pointed out problems with the tablet making a squeaky noise when pressing on the glass in some areas and it appearing that the "glue is coming loose". I wanted to say that if I'm spending $500+ on a device. I want it to work, and work well, and not have to replace it in a year or less.
Another comment I have seen is that its sluggish when doing "heavy multitasking". I plan to do quite a bit of multitasking on it and wondered what other user's experiences are. I have read that ASUS will release the Jelly Bean update to this device and I would expect that this may help with some of that.
One of the reasons that I'm certainly considering going with the ASUS over the other tablets is that I prefer ASUS devices on other platforms. I have an ASUS laptop that originally came with Windows Vista (that tells you how dated it is). It's probably 4-5 years old at this point and it's still working off the original AC adapter, original battery and it still works flawlessly. I have owned several ASUS motherboards that work perfectly and last.
I wanted your opinions, since you guys are the Android tablet guru's and I've read some of the other posts. Even the one about the squeakiness by the speaker. But I' m wondering if this is a common issue or one to be concerned about.
One last thing is that I noticed there is an Atmel stylus that might be compatible with it. Has anyone purchased and used one yet? If so, what do you think about it? I'm seriously considering the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 as well because of this stylus capability and the 2GB of ram in there. Money is not that much of a problem since I will be using gift cards (like up to $700 worth) to buy it.
Yes, Asus definitely has some quality-control issues, but if you do get a "bad" one, you can always just return it for another. Personally, my TF700 is fine - some minor light bleed on the bottom and right sides, but it's only noticeable at full brightness, which I'll never use anyway. I don't have the clicking/squeaking noise either. I truly believe that most of these issues are very minor and most folks wouldn't even notice them if they weren't looking for them.
Don't let this hold you back from an awesome tablet - that's why they make warranties! My original TF101 is still running great (hardware-wise, at least - ICS is another story!) - never had any hardware issues with it and my wife still uses it daily.
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I'm surprised. From what I see here, I think I got one of the nicer tablets. My screen has no obvious light bleeds, no dust trapped under the glass, or scratches. The display is bonded firmly and doesn't squeak. I guess it may be potluck with the build quality, but mine is built well.
Like jtrosky said, if you get a bad one, you can exchange it.
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I'm surprised. From what I see here, I think I got one of the nicer tablets. My screen has no obvious light bleeds, no dust trapped under the glass, or scratches. The display is bonded firmly and doesn't squeak. I guess it may be potluck with the build quality, but mine is built well.
Like jtrosky said, if you get a bad one, you can exchange it.
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First one had dust under screen.
Second had huge bright white crater-like defect in center of screen. Really bad defect - can't understand how that passed quality control.
Third one is perfect....so far....
Asus should stay with what they do best..build computers. They sucks with pad, problems after problems. The TF700 is not ready for prime time. They did the 201 and still making too many mistake with the 700. I can named many like, USB,SB card, I/O bottle neck, phone jack volume, noise when pressed on glass, not fitting well with dock..and on and on. I would wait for Samsung Note 10.1.
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Asus should stay with what they do best..build computers. They sucks with pad, problems after problems. The TF700 is not ready for prime time. They did the 201 and still making too many mistake with the 700. I can named many like, USB,SB card, I/O bottle neck, phone jack volume, noise when pressed on glass, not fitting well with dock..and on and on. I would wait for Samsung Note 10.1.
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But then what would be the alternative: Acer? Apple? Samsung where you're stuck on the same firmware forever?
I think the problem is the separation of design and production these days. These tablets are made by faceless Chinese workers, and then shipped over here. Its not like it used to be where the factory workers and the manufacturer and quality control were all in one place. In fact, do we even know if ASUS ever even sees the tablets after they leave the factory and get shipped to the warehouse?
You should be honored. You're now an ASUS employee - we get to inspect the tablets and return the defective ones - we're quality control technicians!
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But then what would be the alternative: Acer? Apple? Samsung where you're stuck on the same firmware forever?
I think the problem is the separation of design and production these days. These tablets are made by faceless Chinese workers, and then shipped over here. Its not like it used to be where the factory workers and the manufacturer and quality control were all in one place. In fact, do we even know if ASUS ever even sees the tablets after they leave the factory and get shipped to the warehouse?
You should be honored. You're now an ASUS employee - we get to inspect the tablets and return the defective ones - we're quality control technicians!
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Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.
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Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.
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That sounds nice. But you have to vote with your wallet. And the public already has. People want cheap stuff. The Chinese make cheap stuff. So regardless of weather ASUS is responsible or not, if people continue to buy it, why would ASUS have any reason to change? The days of real premium quality merchandise are over.
Every product on the face of the planet is now made in one place. We chose to abandon our factories and manufacturing facilities. So cheap lower quality stuff is now the norm.
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Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.
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I believe that he was just being sarcastic with that last statement!
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I was in the same boat as you, waiting for a 10" tablet that I thought fit my needs and was worth the premium we pay for tablet devices.
I was concerned about quality as well. I kept seeing all kinds of stories on the forums (loose glass, dust, light bleed, etc). I ordered from Amazon knowing that it would be easy to return if there was a problem, but mine is just fine and fortunately has none of the problems that some other people have had.
Re: multitasking - I do a lot of multitasking. I usually have it on "balanced" mode and it's super smooth. It slows down a very little bit when I'm updating 2+ apps simultaneously, and the odd occasion where I'm running multiple CPU-intensive apps, but I just switch to "performance" mode for that short period of time and it's back to being snappy.
If you get a bad one, just return it immediately and get a new one. I'm loving this tablet =)
Thanks, I appreciate your input. I think I may end up going with it. We'll see...The samsung note 10.1 doesn't even disclose how much it will cost yet. I'm worried that even $700 may not be enough. I have heard some rumors of around $750. Plus, I don't know how much I would honestly use the Stylus. It would be a fun toy, but not practical for day to day use for me most likely. I'm so used to using touch interfaces all my other android tablet devices and a prior iPhone now anyway.
Keep in mind as well that it'd usually not the happy people that write or speak out. Its often the dissatisfied. There are plenty of happy and satisfied users out there as well.
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Got my T700 a couple weeks ago
I've had enough time to grow accustomed to it and I love it so far. I can see what same are saying about the build quality issues. The glass feels slightly loose in some areas but not so much that it would come apart.
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I've had enough time to grow accustomed to it and I love it so far. I can see what same are saying about the build quality issues. The glass feels slightly loose in some areas but not so much that it would come apart.
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I hope it works out for you. I think this is a terrific tablet (and keyboard dock).
I am about to buy a Transformer Infinity. I know why I WANT to buy it, but I thought I'll Ask some owners for reasons for why I would NOT want to buy it
I am a crazy customizer and a power user always trying to push the limits.
I currently own a Optimus Black, a phone no one (even LG) cares about...
How popular is the TF700? Will I get support? Roms? What about ASUS Custoomer service?
Thx in Advance
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I am about to buy a Transformer Infinity. I know why I WANT to buy it, but I thought I'll Ask some owners for reasons for why I would NOT want to buy it
I am a crazy customizer and a power user always trying to push the limits.
I currently own a Optimus Black, a phone no one (even LG) cares about...
How popular is the TF700? Will I get support? Roms? What about ASUS Custoomer service?
Thx in Advance
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The Infinity is still relatively new, but there is already quite a bit of development going on with it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1665
As far as official support, such as bug fixes or updates, Asus generally seems to be better and at least faster to get updates out than other manufacturers.
Customer support, however, is a different matter. I haven't dealt with Asus support directly, but there are ample reports about it's horrible quality. For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830473&highlight=asus+support
Likewise, Asus' quality control is pretty lax. There are a lot of tablets with issues that never should have passed standard QA checks.
Another related note: they also seem to be selling rebranded TF201 docks as "new" TF700 docks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810592&highlight=tf700+dock
All things considered though, I'm happy with the Infinity overall. I will accompany that with the caveat that I am in fact getting a replacement for my Infinity and dock from Amazon due to some dust under my screen in a very annoying location (right in the center) and because some keys on the dock started registering incorrectly.
Its a good tablet, but its not without its flaws. I'd still pick one up, as Asus is very good about software updates and our dev community is starting to ramp up so we'll get our custom roms.
Some issues that people have had:
-Quality control is very hit or miss
-You're going to have light bleed. Most tablets have it light enough that its only noticeable while booting though, once in Android it goes away.
-Internal flash storage is relatively slow, causing some occasional performance hiccups. If the Prime is any indication, custom roms will easily work around the issue.
-Asus's tech support staff are complete crap that'll insist on RMAing your device even for the most trivial issues.
-Some devices wont receive updates or unlock their bootloader, although in most cases both start working after a few weeks.
Just make sure you get one that's physically well built, and you should like it.
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
I'd wait a while
My advice...
If possible wait before buying.
Don't jump in like I did.
I did get a later non buggy Infinity that has no build problems.
The performance of the tablet is what I would say is stellar compared to most of the previous incarnations.
Yet there is competition on the horizon that just might blow the Infinity out of the water.
I ran out and bought the Acer A700 because it was the latest thing and ended up severely disappointed.
So then I jumped over to the Infinity and have been pleased.
If you are a true blue power user\tinkerer the Asus may be good, yet you may be much happier with a later model
10 inch tab that ships with android 4.1 jellybean.
I'll bet the hardware in the upcoming tabs will give the 'ole iPad a real run for the finish line.
As far as the this or that choice...to me it boils down to an OS preference.
I wouldn't make sense for anyone on here to recommend apple over droid.
Probably best to not even bring it up...
I have a Asus Prime currently in limbo between Asus and FEDEX for about a month now trying to get it replaced. Long story short. Prime broke (poor quality), sent it to texas service center. 1/2 week later got it back. Service center screwed up the packing, FEDEX destroyed my tablet on delivery. Submitted and claim, 30 days later still waiting. Got tired of waiting, bought the infinity.
Asus seems to have learned their lessons from the Prime, so for me the Infinity works like what I expected the prime to be. Flawless.
If you're into customization and tinkering then this is the tablet for you. The only negative I have to say is Asus as a company they are very schizophrenic. They seem to have good customer support, their response time is good, they are polite and they want to do right by the customer but the end result is unsatisfactory. The Prime should have been recalled, but instead they released band aids to problems that only made things worst. But they tried to do good for the customer. Which is why I ended up buying another Asus product. I just hope I don't come to regret my decision later on.
There's not that many options right now anyways, if you want the most powerful tablet released you either get the ipad 3 or the infinity. My vote is on the infinity, just make sure you get insurance.
Thank you very much for your help guys just a few more things...
I will be using this a lot for school work. Is it sensitive enough for handwriting? Can I use a fine tipped stylus like the HandStylus (http://handstylus.com/) ?
Also is there a considerable drop in Performance in the 3G version compared to the Wifi version?
Thank you very much
Pankaja13 said:
Thank you very much for your help guys just a few more things...
I will be using this a lot for school work. Is it sensitive enough for handwriting? Can I use a fine tipped stylus like the HandStylus (http://handstylus.com/) ?
Also is there a considerable drop in Performance in the 3G version compared to the Wifi version?
Thank you very much
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Yes its very sensitive. The digitizer on the Infinity is really good. Regarding the HandStylus, I don't see why it shouldn't work. It looks like a normal capacitive stylus with just a smaller tip. As far as the 3g version I don't believe its out on the market yet.
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I will be using this a lot for school work.
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I use my Infinity for quite a bit of work. One thing I found is that I use the device docked with the keyboard more than I do as an actual tablet. When sitting at a table or even on the couch I'm able to bang out e-mail, XLS files or word docs with little or no effort. Even when not using the keyboard, just having it there gives a very stable stand to hold the device in a comfortable position. I'm not even considering a sleeve anymore to protect the device, since just folding the keyboard up will protect the screen. Honestly, I didn't think I would use it this way... figured they dock was going to be a novelty accessory. It has truly transformed (pun intended) this thing into something that is really productive. Not sure what kind of school work you will be using your tablet for, but this is something you might want to consider.
I own one and I think it's great.. I honestly can't think of a reason why you shouldn't get it.. In addition, there are plenty of stable OS that you can put on the tablet once you root it; plus, you have more options you can enact on the tablet, which wouldn't be possible on the iPad.
GaryParr said:
I use my Infinity for quite a bit of work. One thing I found is that I use the device docked with the keyboard more than I do as an actual tablet. When sitting at a table or even on the couch I'm able to bang out e-mail, XLS files or word docs with little or no effort. Even when not using the keyboard, just having it there gives a very stable stand to hold the device in a comfortable position. I'm not even considering a sleeve anymore to protect the device, since just folding the keyboard up will protect the screen. Honestly, I didn't think I would use it this way... figured they dock was going to be a novelty accessory. It has truly transformed (pun intended) this thing into something that is really productive. Not sure what kind of school work you will be using your tablet for, but this is something you might want to consider.
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I second Garys opinion. My transformer has become my sole computing device at home, with my desktop being used as a file storage.
The keyboard dock is essential for school.
FWIW, I finally bought a gray Infinity after being without my OG Transformer since last AUG and tiring of the wait for a champagne unit. (Tried a Prime for about 36 hours -- it was such a POS that I returned it for a refund.) The gray Infinity has been in production long enough to work out assembly issues, if Asus plans to correct them at all.
I bought from Amazon, which has excellent customer service and return policies. I should receive the unit today. If there are build issues, I'll exchange no more than twice (which, not coincidentally, is the limit of Amazon's exchange policy). If I can't find a good unit among three, I'll just return it and wait for the Samsung P10 or a Surface tab.
Heck, if the P10 is as killer as specs suggest, I'll probably eBay the Infinity anyway. But I've done without a tablet for so long -- and the keyboard dock for my Droid Bionic is a poor substitute -- that I gotta try something.
Pankaja13 said:
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
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If you want to be conformed to a cookie cutter device, and have a dictatorial company tell you what you want, need, and desire
While controlling you with an iron fist, by all means, get iPad 3.
If you are your own unique person who can decide what you want on your own, I strongly suggest a lil green robot.
Pankaja13 said:
Thank you very much
I was also considering the iPad 3 because I'm yet to see an iOS device lag....
but I swore I would NEVER buy apple
What do you thing is a better option?
You have the the Wifi version of the Infinity, right? Is there a big difference in performance?
Thx again
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I first tried the tf300 because it has the jb update but went to the infinity for its display. Once it gets jb you won't see lag any longer with it. I also tried the new ipad but returned it quickly, ios just too boring for me.
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redheadplantguy said:
If you want to be conformed to a cookie cutter device, and have a dictatorial company tell you what you want, need, and desire
While controlling you with an iron fist, by all means, get iPad 3.
If you are your own unique person who can decide what you want on your own, I strongly suggest a lil green robot.
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Couldn't have said it better myself :highfive:
donharden2002 said:
I first tried the tf300 because it has the jb update but went to the infinity for its display. Once it gets jb you won't see lag any longer with it. I also tried the new ipad but returned it quickly, ios just too boring for me.
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Same. You can change the wallpaper and that's it.
Big thanks to everyone who helped, but you can only press the "Thanks" button once
I've had some trouble trying to find it in South Asia... guess I'll have to wait a bit longer
I have had a my TF201 for a few months and love it. I got the GPS dongle coz I could but don't really use GPS and for me the WiFi seems to work OK (but not exceptionally)
I am now thinking of selling the TF201 and replacing it with the Infinity but I am a bit worried about reports of flimsy screen attachments and power/volume buttons etc. I don't have any of these issues with my TF201 but as I am planning to buy from overseas it would be a pain if the Infinity turned out to be one with manufacturing defects.
I am just wondering whether ASUS have addressed some of these issues and maybe later ones have less issues?
I did have a dock on my TF201 but I am unsure whether I will bother doing the same with the Infinity as I found that I did not use it that much and probably an onscreen keyboard would do. I can always buy a TF700 keyboard later if I miss it too much
First off, the TF201 dock is compatible with the TF700 -- I have one attached and it was retailed by ASUS this way. That would eliminate the need to buy something else "specifically made" for the 700. (You do not even have to take my word for this, as there is a picture-laden breakdown of both "types" (read: labels) of docks somewhere in here.)
Secondly, I strongly doubt there is anything like a "current" vs. an "old" build of the Infinity. That doesn't have to be a bad thing in itself... As has been said before, by both myself and many others: any internet presence is always negatively biased, as the people having no issues -- or, if I may put it slightly more bluntly, are not looking for issues --are just out there sitting in the shade with a funny cocktail watching whatever HD it is they watch on their 700s. I'd wager this is a large part of the TF700 buyers. We're far more critical users than the average buyer, who is probably just blown away by the performance, doesn't know better and doesn't need to.
I, for one, would happily buy again, in terms of both software performance (when unlocked/rooted/CleanROM'ed) and hardware build quality.
I must admit, I was reluctant to buy my tab based on the negative reviews I was reading. I finally took the plunge and couldn't be happier. I have zero complaints about build quality, and my only minor gripe is the I/O performance, which isn't that bed when considering overall performance...
My tab has C80 serial number, but I'm not sure it's relevant...
All positive here.
CleanROM user also.
Build quality has been fine for me.
Of course, anyone saying it's flimsy, would proclaim it was too bulky and heavy if it was not the light weight product it is. I prefer light over bulky. Some folks, you can never please them...
Very Happy
I had a 201 before changing over to the 700. The 700 is what the 201 should have been in the first place. The internet is so much better, and the overall performance is so much improved. With Jelly Bean, any concerns I might had had or over. Just very happy with my tablet!
Issues???
GerryAttrick said:
I have had a my TF201 for a few months and love it.
I am just wondering whether ASUS have addressed some of these issues and maybe later ones have less issues?
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99.9% of us luv our TF700's
the other .1% are complaining about something or the other.
How solid is the current build of the TF700
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99.9% of us luv our TF700's
the other .1% are complaining about something or the other.
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By "Issues" I have seen reports of creaky,loose glass screens, flimsy power on & volume buttons(compared to TF201) and screen cracking because the dock does not appear to close properly in some instances
I thought that ASUS might have taken this on board and maybe tightened manufacturing to overcome the loose screen glass...which probably contributes to some of the broken screens
As you say it is usually the ones with the issues that will post to these forums and there do not appear to be too many complaints given the high numbers of units that must now be out there.
Enuff said...I think I had probably already come to the same conclusion as the TF201 is now up for sale and I have sourced a TF700 at the right price. Fingers crossed the 201 goes this week. ..I can always drop the price and keep the keyboard if that's what it needs to sell it.
Thanks for the replies guys:good:
GerryAttrick said:
By "Issues" I have seen reports of creaky,loose glass screens, flimsy power on & volume buttons(compared to TF201) and screen cracking because the dock does not appear to close properly in some instances
I thought that ASUS might have taken this on board and maybe tightened manufacturing to overcome the loose screen glass...which probably contributes to some of the broken screens
As you say it is usually the ones with the issues that will post to these forums and there do not appear to be too many complaints given the high numbers of units that must now be out there.
Enuff said...I think I had probably already come to the same conclusion as the TF201 is now up for sale and I have sourced a TF700 at the right price. Fingers crossed the 201 goes this week. ..I can always drop the price and keep the keyboard if that's what it needs to sell it.
Thanks for the replies guys:good:
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You might want to see if Best Buy can help. I've heard stories of taking their TF201 into Best Buy without a receipt or anything and Best Buy will basically "exchange" it for a TF700. I believe Best Buy and Asus have teamed up to offer some sort of "buy back" program for the TF201 since it was basically a faulty device (wifi & GPS issues).
You may want to see if Best Buy can help before trying to sell it and taking a huge loss...
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jtrosky said:
You might want to see if Best Buy can help. I've heard stories of taking their TF201 into Best Buy without a receipt or anything and Best Buy will basically "exchange" it for a TF700. I believe Best Buy and Asus have teamed up to offer some sort of "buy back" program for the TF201 since it was basically a faulty device (wifi & GPS issues).
You may want to see if Best Buy can help before trying to sell it and taking a huge loss...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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With my luck that would be the case...except I am in New Zealand and its a bit far from here to the closest Best Buy. One thing you guys in the USA have going for you is your Consumer Guarantee Laws. Manufacturers seem more afraid of Class Actions in USA than other parts of the world and more willing to come to the aid of the consumer.
I won't take too big a hit if I sell it as I have set my price a tad below what I bought it for (in New Zealand) and I can import a 700 for not a lot more direct from USA.I can write off any loss against my tax as I bought it as a company "computer"
If I don't get my price then I'll hang on to it a bit longer as I am quite happy with it in general but thought it would be nice to upgrade if possible.