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DYI Qi Car Dock [ideas/thoughts/wish-list]

Having seen some super creative members do some amazing stuff to make one-off accessories I thought we could start a thread to share ideas on making a magnetic Qi car dock for the N4. Too bad the Palm Touchstone isn't comparable because you can get them cheap to disassemble and work to mod. I am thinking of doing so with a Nexus Orb or whatever LG calls it when it is released. These other pad type chargers would need magnets incorporated. Then there is the power supply to figure out.
If there is an existing option, please share. If you have a plan, help us brainstorm it and share it.
N4 shipped today. Can't wait

lpasq said:
Having seen some super creative members do some amazing stuff to make one-off accessories I thought we could start a thread to share ideas on making a magnetic Qi car dock for the N4. Too bad the Palm Touchstone isn't comparable because you can get them cheap to disassemble and work to mod. I am thinking of doing so with a Nexus Orb or whatever LG calls it when it is released. These other pad type chargers would need magnets incorporated. Then there is the power supply to figure out.
If there is an existing option, please share. If you have a plan, help us brainstorm it and share it.
N4 shipped today. Can't wait
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Yeah, its what i thought when they annouced the orb thing. I would love a charger that is like the orb, that i can just chuck my phone onto, no hassle, and the magnets just stick too it, and it charges.

Can't wait for this!

The roads I usually drive are a little bumpy, and having a SRA doesn't help with that, so I don't think I'd be comfortable putting my phone's fate in the hands of a couple of magnets.

Here is something I did a few years back with a Palm Pre & their Touchstone charger. http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...-mounting-charger-car-solution-its-alive.html
If the Orb is light enough, I bet the same could be done.

Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.

The orb might work if its in a center console tray where the phone is more so leaning against the orb rather than having the orb fulling support the weight of the phone.
This goes counter what most people want and expect out of a car dock though, its more like a car stand
I'd be more inclined to do it this way as a DIY solution as well since we won't known till we try it out sturdy it will be... And sliding down onto a rubber center tray wont do much in terms of harm to the phone
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xAshxMoneyx said:
Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.
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There are some advantages to using a Touchstone (or Wireless Orb)-like solution. Mats usually don't have magnets, and you need to align the thing, besides in a car it will move. So that's done. Also you can tilt the thing and use it with a car dock mount. I have a pretty cool one . The suction cup is big and a special sticky material that you can actually stick to the dashboard and it's extremely secure. I have had another Arkon mount and they don't disappoint with quality. They offer a lot of different design selections for mounts and docks (mix and match). I found the dock I bought the least intrusive/ugly (including other brands). But the mount is really amazing.
So I plan to do what the OP is planning. Only that I suspect the Wireless Orb will be too expensive, and so far for me all the other available Qi chargers are still very expensive, even compared to Powermat. So I'm waiting to see what comes out and if the prices go down.

jnewman1991 said:
The roads I usually drive are a little bumpy, and having a SRA doesn't help with that, so I don't think I'd be comfortable putting my phone's fate in the hands of a couple of magnets.
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take a rubber band and tie it to the orb.

peestandingup said:
Here is something I did a few years back with a Palm Pre & their Touchstone charger. http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...-mounting-charger-car-solution-its-alive.html
If the Orb is light enough, I bet the same could be done.
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dude. while driving today i imagined using my spare brodit clip like you did to somehow mount an "orb". how did you adress the the power conversion to 12v or did the touchstone have a car power adapter?

xAshxMoneyx said:
Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.
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i have an lg mat coming to check it out. yeah the power supply question is one i hope someone with an electrical understanding can enlighten us on.

andy o said:
There are some advantages to using a Touchstone (or Wireless Orb)-like solution. Mats usually don't have magnets, and you need to align the thing, besides in a car it will move. So that's done. Also you can tilt the thing and use it with a car dock mount. I have a pretty cool one . The suction cup is big and a special sticky material that you can actually stick to the dashboard and it's extremely secure. I have had another Arkon mount and they don't disappoint with quality. They offer a lot of different design selections for mounts and docks (mix and match). I found the dock I bought the least intrusive/ugly (including other brands). But the mount is really amazing.
So I plan to do what the OP is planning. Only that I suspect the Wireless Orb will be too expensive, and so far for me all the other available Qi chargers are still very expensive, even compared to Powermat. So I'm waiting to see what comes out and if the prices go down.
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akron and brodit too have been my go-to solutions when oem car docks don't cut it.

I think this is a great idea and would love to have a wireless charger for my car. I was thinking of finding a way of modding one of these
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Arkon Galaxy Nexus Dash mount
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to allow wireless charging and NFC to turn on Bluetooth and GPS, open GMusic and turning off WiFi. Don't know how easy it would be though.
Also, if you can only find mains powered chargers you could always check out something like this.
Lastly, multi-quote might be good for replying to multiple posts

lpasq said:
i have an lg mat coming to check it out. yeah the power supply question is one i hope someone with an electrical understanding can enlighten us on.
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EE here, well CE but its the same major at Purdue minus 2 classes. Okay when it comes to the wireless charging inductance Faradays law blah blah.. No one cares about that not even me really haha.
What you want to know is will it work in your car with a car charger, there is always a way whether it be running an inverter right off of the battery or from the Aux power source.
One factor is unknown right now, or at least I haven't looked enough.. What is the amperage draw of the charging station. Most phones charge off of 5V at 1 amp. Tablets usually 5V 2.1A and so on besides Sony Tablet S...
What I'm getting at is most chargers then charge at these voltages so if the orb needs 12V, 120V w.e. it may be anything other than 5V an inverter will have to be run, with the original AC adapter. Unless you can find a charger that charges at the correct voltages the original AC adapter plugged into the invertor will be your best idea for now.
Now onto the car mount idea, I also had one for my pre and my current touchstone modded Nexus ..
I am thinking of buying an energizer Qi station and finding a way to mount at an angle with some sort of lip on the bottom to stop a slide off, but may look terrible have to see and energizer station in person first..

I don't really care to mount my phone to use as a GPS or anything like that. That being said I will probably make some sort of holder thing to put in my cup holder to charge the phone when I am in my car. So now dumb question; the phone being in a vertical position should not affect the qi charging as long as it is close enough right? Once I have my phone and get around to it I will post pictures of it. I might be a few weeks though, got backordered.

cchap07 said:
I don't really care to mount my phone to use as a GPS or anything like that. That being said I will probably make some sort of holder thing to put in my cup holder to charge the phone when I am in my car. So now dumb question; the phone being in a vertical position should not affect the qi charging as long as it is close enough right? Once I have my phone and get around to it I will post pictures of it. I might be a few weeks though, got backordered.
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from looking at this http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1 and already having a qi pad it seems the wireless charging contact area is rather centered.

lpasq said:
from looking at this http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1 and already having a qi pad it seems the wireless charging contact area is rather centered.
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So you have a Qi charger already? My question is how good is the magnetic pull with it? Also which one do you have? I want to try and mount the charger to my wall like I had my touchstone for my GN... But that had a good magnetic pull due to the touchstone and rare earth magnets

runningwarrior08 said:
So you have a Qi charger already? My question is how good is the magnetic pull with it? Also which one do you have? I want to try and mount the charger to my wall like I had my touchstone for my GN... But that had a good magnetic pull due to the touchstone and rare earth magnets
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i have these and neither have magnetic pull as you'd need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962570&page=31

lpasq said:
i have these and neither have magnetic pull as you'd need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962570&page=31
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Hey if you have the time could you take a ruler to your lg pad? I I want to know the dimensions to see if my idea could even work with it. Unfortunately I was not able to find those dimensions anywhere online :/

cchap07 said:
Hey if you have the time could you take a ruler to your lg pad? I I want to know the dimensions to see if my idea could even work with it. Unfortunately I was not able to find those dimensions anywhere online :/
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i will but i am away from it until later

Uniden UN904 wireless charger - no go

Just in case anyone else runs across this, the Uniden wireless charging base, UN904 looks promising, but I can attest to the fact that it does not work for us. Sucks too, because they were normally $30, on clearance for $15 at your local Walgreens. I picked one up and could get the charger to see the phone (LED turns from green to red) but the phone never went into charging mode. I even left if a while to see if it would kick in and it just slowly drained as usual. So I returned it. Just thought I'd share.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/uniden-complete-wireless-charging-system-un904/ID=prod6096741-product
-AngryHog™

UN904 DOES work
I just received mine and it charges the LG Nexus 4 Just fine . You just have to have to face the USB port side of the phone towards the "Uniden" logo. Will post a YouTube video soon.

-=BaDZeD=- said:
I just received mine and it charges the LG Nexus 4 Just fine . You just have to have to face the USB port side of the phone towards the "Uniden" logo. Will post a YouTube video soon.
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I would like to know about this too! lemme know if youre having trouble posting links (I can do it for ya, send me a PM)

Any idea what the power requirements are? as I can't seem to find any info.
Could you please let me know if the power adaptor can handle 240v AC ?
Thanks!

RE: Power requirements
Looks like it does.
The AC Adaptor on the one I got reads:
"SWITCHING AC/DC POWER ADAPTER"
Model FLD0710-12.0V1000mA
I/P: AC 100-240V 50/60HZ 0.5A
O/P DC 12.0V 1000mA
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-=BaDZeD=- said:
Looks like it does.
The AC Adaptor on the one I got reads:
"SWITCHING AC/DC POWER ADAPTER"
Model FLD0710-12.0V1000mA
I/P: AC 100-240V 50/60HZ 0.5A
O/P DC 12.0V 1000mA
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Perfect Thanks!

Notes on operation
Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back

-=BaDZeD=- said:
Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyHVCAZhR4
Thanks!

-=BaDZeD=- said:
Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back
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here ya go :
working : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyHVCAZhR4&feature=youtu.be
non-working/with issues : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbAJYvYUe48&feature=youtu.be
by the way, did you managed to get it fully charged? Are there any issues like the nokia charger where it cycles between charging and non-charging?

Re: youtube
Thank you for posting the links
Sorry about the video quality: took the video with a cheap point and shoot during breaks at work.
Seemed to be charging OK at work. Just brought it home, set it on a metal plate (in the future, I might just glue tin foil to the base), and its working fine again. Does not seem to have any cycling so far. Will report in the morning on the charging status.
Overall - a good use of $10

I can't believe it! IT WORKS!
I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34630397&postcount=433
I thought, "what the heck, it's only $5, shipping included." The Amazon listing actually described the item as a Wireless Gear 5WC800, but when it arrived it was actually a Uniden UN904. From looking at the pictures I'm sure it's the exact same item, just rebranded for Uniden. The problem is, it didn't work at all. By playing around with how I placed the Nexus 4 on the charging pad I could trigger the charging light on the pad to turn red (charging indicator) but the phone would not charge and the charging indicator on the phone never came on.
I was about to give the charging pad to a friend that has an iPhone 4 when I read this thread tonight. Excited, I tried putting the Uniden charging pad on a steel cookie sheet before attempting to charge my phone. No go. I tried putting it on a stainless steel frying pan. No go. Then I tried putting it on an aluminum non-stick griddle pan. IT STARTED CHARGING! I think this charging pad needs a non-ferrous (not iron, not steel) metal underneath it in order to charge the Nexus 4. So tried putting it on the sheet of aluminum foil. IT STILL CHARGES! Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.

wtang said:
I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4: Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.
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Thanks for your input. I am going to go to my local Walgreens which supposedly has it in stock and get one. If they work out great I will get 1 or 2 more lol. I'm out of thanks today so i'll hit you one tomorrow

wtang said:
I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34630397&postcount=433
I thought, "what the heck, it's only $5, shipping included." The Amazon listing actually described the item as a Wireless Gear 5WC800, but when it arrived it was actually a Uniden UN904. From looking at the pictures I'm sure it's the exact same item, just rebranded for Uniden. The problem is, it didn't work at all. By playing around with how I placed the Nexus 4 on the charging pad I could trigger the charging light on the pad to turn red (charging indicator) but the phone would not charge and the charging indicator on the phone never came on.
I was about to give the charging pad to a friend that has an iPhone 4 when I read this thread tonight. Excited, I tried putting the Uniden charging pad on a steel cookie sheet before attempting to charge my phone. No go. I tried putting it on a stainless steel frying pan. No go. Then I tried putting it on an aluminum non-stick griddle pan. IT STARTED CHARGING! I think this charging pad needs a non-ferrous (not iron, not steel) metal underneath it in order to charge the Nexus 4. So tried putting it on the sheet of aluminum foil. IT STILL CHARGES! Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.
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Great! :good: Bought one used (last one, sorry guys) on amazon for $15 - $4.50 (cc points) = $10.50 shipped!! :silly::silly::silly:

These still on sale right?
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I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.

wtang said:
I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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Same exact findings here. Was going to trash the charger until I put it down on an aluminum pot cover and it started working. Ironically I just bought the wcp-700 from Verizon today.
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wtang said:
I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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The Powermat will not work. It is not Qi compatible.

wtang said:
I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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How fast is this charging... this thing seems a bit weird. I would hate to kill the battery in our new phones but the price is so tempting!

Talking about what kind of pan to put our chargers on. Exactly why i love this community:beer:
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Here is something either scary or funny. I pulled out the instructions that came with the uniden charger and it states: "do not place charger on metal, aluminum or copper surface while in use"
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Qi+NFC+AT&T G3, no hardware hacking.

Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW

My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ

Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).

Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
2SHAYNEZ

Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.

guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.

Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.

pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.

Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?

shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.

TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....

I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?

cnewsgrp said:
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA

Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA

skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...

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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).

I really starting to think to do what you have done

LG V10 OEM Wireless Charging Back in today..............A few pictures.

Got in the LG OEM wireless charging back today for the V10. It is of very nice quality and maybe only a hair thicker then stock back, very hard to tell. I don't think there will be any problem fitting into standard cases.
I got it for the everyday low price of $79.00 plus shipping from Amazon.
Only has LG and not V10 on the back corner.
I've add a few pictures showing it side by side with the stock back.

Very cool but also a bit pricey but it's LG oem so your gonna pay a bit more bought a cheap back cover from china with wireless charging that works well only paid about 15 bucks it has a leather back and the fit isn't quite as good as the stock back if you have the money I would definitely get the one you picked

I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.

Thanks to the OP's for the information and photo's.
It isn't going to be much different in the quality of the charging, the only different is the built quality, the QI and PMA circuit (PCB) is in the phone, the back cover only contains the coil to complete the wireless charging part.
The current coil use for both the OEM and third party is a flexi coil, isn't the best, it's used because it's thin, I'm going to mod mine when I get the V10 within the week, and put a proper copper strand wire coil, has better detection, less heat and less transmission loss.
I have a few types of coils made especially for wireless charging, and will post back.

you can just buy the Qi receiver sticker for less than $10 and apply yourself.. why would anyone buy this for that price?

cepheid46e2 said:
I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.

Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.

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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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You are correct to a certain point, both OEM and third party uses a flexi coil with a flexi magnet, the quality of these also determine the detection and aligment.

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Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
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There on eBay just search connection station on eBay around $15 four different colors there slightly thicker than the stock back you can tell the difference by the volume buttons but not too bad a fit though

I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.

timbawolf2k said:
I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.
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There are no special settings that I'm aware of.

I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .

QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8

QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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I liked the wireless charging on my nexus 6 so when i bought the V10 i had to get wireless charging working on it so i bought the leather qi/nfc back for $15 of eBay (connection station) and it works very well with the Anker qi little disc charger i bought off Amazon but the leather back doesn't fit exactly as good as the stock back there's that little gap by the volume buttons you described but worth it to have the wireless charging working

Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?

QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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QMaverick said:
Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
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Just wait for Best Buy to have it for $59.00 I'm sure this will be the retail price once it hit's the shelves.

clockcycle said:
That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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GSM and the fact that it literally takes twice as long with the Yootech. So a watch is what I'm using to determine the speed. It can and does make sense as it depends on the conduction of the materials used. If yootech uses different metal composition in the coil then it gives off more heat energy and doesn't charge as fast. Welcome to physics.

felloffthetruck said:
Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
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That looks pretty nice. Check out my cart here, you can see all my goodies. I'm going with an off brand Spigen clone because I like to use my phone wile it's on the dock and this one looks more stable for that.
I am planning to go with the Yootech back cover. Hopefully it's wont cause the phone to get warm like some others seem to be saying...

For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.

Panzer500 said:
For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
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Bought a little Anker qi disc charger of Amazon for $12 it claims that it regulates the heat and that it doesn't waste energy overcharging i just put my phone on it when i go to bed wake up and it's at 100% and my phones not hot the charger has 2 led's blue when it's charging and red and blue when the phones charged

[Wireless Charging] Anybody Have Experience With The NeWisdom Qi Sticker?

This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.

THE TEAM!!!
ThisIsCheez said:
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
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I nominate you to take one for the team. Let us know!

Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.

dr_w said:
Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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So i bought the new Wisdom sticker off Amazon. I'll say this--i used a hair dryer as the instruction indicates--and peeled the original NFC only sticker off (or so i thought) and applied the new wisdom. It would register like it was charging but not actually charge as dr_w indicates above.
HOWEVER...frustrated i looked at a couple videos and noticed that the battery doors with the sticker fully removed didn't look like mine. With an exacto knife i picked at the remaining black area only to find there was still copper wire underneath. In effect the original NFC sticker had multiple layers and i'd only peeled off the top. Getting ALL of it up was a challenge...like a real challenge...it did not peel off i had to scrape with a knife for an extended period of time.
At the end of the day though once i had the original sticker all the way off i reapplied the New Wisdom Sticker (which surprisingly survived multiple attempts at reapplying without ill effect). Then setting it on my Spigen charger stand and running the Ampere app i was amazed at how well it was charging. It actually was over 1000ma at one point and after finding it's range (it starts low and builds) it averaged at about 800ma. That was decent enough to charge my phone pretty quick. For reference fast charging is like 1350--1500ma or so. In comparison the Monroy wireless back i bought from Amazon that already had a sticker applied (presumably NOT New Wisdom) typically does maybe 350-500ma.
So the bottom line is it was WAY more of a pain than i anticipated but now i'm stoked and actually rather impressed with the performance.

LEt us know if its consistent. I've had a very similar experience before it began discharging at a rapid rate. Thanks for the post, I'll keep checking back.

Originally had a cheap sticker off eBay that lasted several months, about 3,then the chip in the phone caved out. Got the newisdom the other day and got a Tylt charger to go with 2 Samsung fast chargers and no issues so far. The constant lighting up the phone when it's charged is annoying and the g4 tweaksbox doesn't seem to fix it.

I'm using the OEM LG wireless back and it's quite nice. Feels exactly like the original and fits very flush, no problems with wireless detection on my TYLT charger. I'm actually surprised at how little the back weighs as my understanding is the copper coils should add some noticeable weight but in this case it doesn't. Maybe not that much copper in these OEM backs?

Just ordered an OEM wireless charging back for my V10 (a seller on Amazon has it for $29.99 atm though no prime shipping with the fastest option being expedited shipping) and due to the price, I'd imagine it already being sold out by the time this post is read. I didn't want to get the third party stickers as I want to keep my current back and the third party plastic backs are pretty horrible in terms of feel and fit.
Anyways, what do you guys recommend for a good wireless charging pad? The official Samsung pads look interesting enough as is and I've seen it work with every device with Qi built in or using one of those plug-in Qi pads you place inside a case before the phone though I'm gonna have to wait til my next paycheck to get a pad: already spend a good chunk of cash on an MSI RX 480 and only bought this back due to the steal of a price at $29.99, $36 with expedited shipping. It was that or go with prime and spend $60 on a back

Finally received my OEM wireless back. As expected, the battery door feels exactly like the original back albeit curves near the button cutout due to the extra elevation it adds. Also makes cases a tighter fit if you're concerned about compatibility. Works on my Yootech wireless charger as well as a friend's Samsung wireless charger and Tylt Vu 3, the last two having the best range in terms of surface since the Yootech seems to only have one coil. As for charging, going from 0-100% took about 2-3 hours and the phone got pretty warm too though just a smidgen cooler than it gets when quick charging via cable. The packaging DOES have the description for what would've been a wireless charging variant of the Quickview cover which would attach as a battery door too but I guess that didn't work after all the hullabaloo about the faulty Qi chip. Sucks that the LG logo simply takes place of the rather sexy V10 logo
Either way, I'd recommend getting an OEM back when you can though might wanna wait. Some listing still sell it for $60 a pop and even $100